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Absolute Naturists What Would be your dream community
| I think this dream community would be one where being nude was the normal. That wearing clothes was for when the tempurture was too cold to be nude. The Idea place would be where wormth was available most it not all year long. One time in the chat room we had this discussion. The thought was If it where its own island not under the juristiction of any country. What yould you like to see? | |
| Yes, this would be a community that is an incoperated city. We would have have our own set of elected officials who would put laws together. But, that is putting the cart before the horse. Need the community established so that nudist were the dominate voice in our community. | |
| The prospect of nude law enforcement would be a little odd and probably wouldn't be feasible. I think a city would be too large to start out with especially when it came to the community like Wayne said. Perhaps a small town that shared a county utility company or energy co-op that way there is room for expansion without being totally cut off from outside supplies and resources. I worry this community would need some sort of incorporation or sponsorship of some sort otherwise the taxes or dues needed to upkeep the town would be ridiculously high. Later on if tourist dollars started flowing and there was some sort of other production going on in time it might be able to self sustain. Warm claimant is great for certain types of produce and if building from the ground up allot of alternative energy sources and green building materials could be used that would make operating cost much less. | |
| There really wouldn't be any need for so-called "city services", especially if this community could be built to "off-grid" living standards. There are many good web sites to show you how to free yourself from relying on city power and water by using solar and wind power, and drilling your own well. Also, private security solutions are usually much more effective than the public police force. This is totally do-able, but would need to find the "perfect" spot. Most likely somewhere within +/- 35º from the equator. In the USA, south Texas or south Florida would probably be good. Or, if you want to get out of the USA, I found a rather interesting web site, though not naturist related, could probably find some land there and establish a community... http://www.escapethestates.com | |
| They are actually working on a nudist community in the Dominican Republic right now. It is called Cambium. It is a holistic, naturist village. They are selling pieces of the land to anyone interested in being a part of the community. Its not in the United States, but thought it might be of interest. If you want to learn more about it, here is the website, www.cambiumbene.com | |
| You people have been comming up with some good points. Not only contain some good ideas but comming up with examples. Good job continue | |
| So far we have had two suggestions where a clothing optional community. However couldent 1 be set up hear in 1 of the wormer states. I have some idea as to what skills would be needed. What skills would you have to make this work. Furthermore, what skills are you aware of that others have that could make this possible | |
| It seems like dream communities mentioned would be in some far off never never land or parcels isolated from regular cities. This tends to go back to the "colony" theory. How about a move to make some of the towns/cities we live in "nudist friendly" which would mean that public nudity is acceptable without breaking any laws. Seems to me that this is what we are striving for. Granted it won't happen tomorrow, it will take community education (nude is not lewd), it will take local governmental actions, and consistent monitoring to make sure the intentions of policies are upheld, and probably many other things in implementing this type of community. Also it would take credibility and endorsement from orgs such as AANR and a lot of "balls" from the initial leaders of the movement. But would the end result not be the dream community nudists seek? I think yes. | |
| To convert an existing community to a nudist lifestyle we need to find a town where we would relocate to so we would become the majority. We would have to be political active so we could pass laws that would celebrate living nude lifestyle. One of us would have to become Mayor, members of town counsel or whatever the positions are called. On the other hand would have to know what state obstacles may exist. After the entire new minority may fight us on our efforts to make nudism the norm. I agree it should be a place close to populations areas. It might be better to establish this community adjacent to an existing community. As a person who does not drive having access to public transportation would be a plus. I am only aware of 1 resort that has a bus stop at the gate (Cypress Cove) there may be others. | |
| The closest thing to that I have been in is Cypress Cove nudist resort where they have streets lined with homes and you walk down the street and everyone is gardening or sitting outside nude. That's really awesome to me. We're in Orlando so it's warm almost all the time. | |
| Something like the way it is in Cap D'age in France would be great. You can do anything there in a nude community setting. Go grocery shopping, go to the bank, walk down the street, anything. Somthing like that here would be great! | |
| I think the difficulty with public nudity in a textile town is the looky loos that just don't get it, but enjoy looking for their own perverted reasons rather than understanding why we enjoy being nude. My dream community would be a small town near water with a warm climate that is clothing optional anywhere and anytime. I'm a bit of a hippy so the commune mentality does not escape me. I like the idea of a community garden where people share the fruits of their labor. But I also like the modern day amenities of tv and internet too. http://bloggerinthebuff.blogspot.com | |
| If I had my way, a group of us absolute nudists would begin a march from Seattle to Miami meandering through the country. As we go we would chew on cloud tablets. Every town we passed by, near, or through we would blow out a cloud and when it descended on a town, the people of the town would begin to shed their clothes and dance about and the community would see the light and become an absolute nudist community. We would march through Indian reservations doing Indian dances as we blew our clouds. Ride down the Snake River, Red River, Mississippi and others clouding all the towns until we get way down upon the Swanee River. For all the cops that try to stop us we could blow out cloud potion number nine. Anyway that's how I see it. "Comment as you see fit!" | |
| I think I smoked the same thing once upon a time, hmmmm can't remember. My remaining brain cells won't let me provide a deeper comment. Thanks for the fun post and bringing this topic back to the surface. Everyone, there are a lot of excellent topics that have gotten buried. Scan through them, bring some up, and give us your thoughts. SB | |
| Realistically, I think clothing optional neighborhoods or subdivisions are a beautiful dream...but just a dream. The "red tape" alone would be enough to curtail such a project; not to mention opposition from every religious and governmental institution within a 10 mile radius. Maybe in a more enlightended future...which none of us will be around to witness anyway. Larry mentionned nudist "streets" within a nudist resort; I've seen it surrounding a nudist resort. I was headed to a GA resort once, and on the road leading to the resort, I saw a gentleman in his front yard cutting the grass...nude. Perhaps he moved there because he was a nudist; perhaps he became a nudist as a result of living there. That gave me the idea that if enough nudists bought homes around a resort, you could have a nudist community, with a resort as its centerpiece. Families moving there would allow the resort to grow and maybe include/add a daycare center, a chapel, a convenience store, etc...Those that don't want to be affiliated with the resort wouldn't have to; they could still be nude anywhere on their property and around it. | |
| I'm glad this topic surfaced again. I was seriously thinking about this recently. After getting the bug of investing in rural property I thought, hey, a nudist community would be a cool project. But, how would I do it. I think a regular nudist friendly town would attract unwanted attention and wouldn't last long. A nudist apartment complex or gated community would be an idea, but someone would eventually get the fair housing act involved and put an end to that. However, there are complexes who have acceptance processes for residency to keep out "undesirables". I'll have to talk to a lawyer to see how they get away with that and determine if "practicing nudist" is a criteria that can be enforced. I know the term "colony" has a bad connotation these days, but as the world gets weirder and more artificial, a back to basics "colony" is sounding better every day. | |
| The old "colony" has been replace with ... "enclave." LOL This took place for one nudist club outside of Tucson, AZ. Jardin Del Sol was parceled off and 14 (I believe) properties were sold to "nudists." It became a nudist "enclave." I visited just before it closed and was the parcels were sold. I talked with and interviewed then given information by the female owner about buying a parcel. She approached me with the offer but we did not want pack up and move to AZ. We'd just bought our current home and still enjoy where we live. No stores or other conveniences but a gate community of nudists just the same. Only problem ... this property exists off the beaten path and I'd love to see a nudist community right in the heart of the city where it mingles and intertwines with neighboring textile tracts. I wonder about our tract of homes and how successful it would have been to sell just to nudists. Gate the tract off, supply ample landscaping and positions of walls and fencing and ... there you go, a nude community within the city. There are two schools within our tract, an elementary and a middle school and a fire station. No markets or other conveniences but ... even those that live in clubs still leave to go shopping. We definately have enough nudist teachers and firefighters that we could staff these jobs ... but ... realistically, you'd have to find ALL those nudists that would be willing to relocate to a specific location where this community exists. It would be so much easier for others to just get over themselves and accept people for what and who they are. If a man or woman walks out to their front yard and picks up the paper nude ... why is it the most horrible thing someone's seen? If a man or woman walks down to the mail box naked to get their mail ... why is so terrible that the cops need to be called? We've had our youngest grandkids out in our front yard ... naked playing in a small pool and the sprinklers. It was not planned, just a spontaneous act. The neighbors commented ... "that was so sweet to watch. They were having so much fun and laughing. We laughed too." Now ... if I were sitting out there naked, watching ... what am I ... a perv? Is my nudity disgusting? For us it isn't but for TOO many, it becomes easier for them to just say these types of things, go with the crowd, then to truly think about it and say ... "it's okay with me!" We all have reasons for living where we live and we can't all just pack up and leave our lives because we want to live naked 24/7, 365. I get to almost do that now within my current home and backyard but I do yearn for the ability, many days, to walk out my front door, go get my mail and visit with my neighbors ... in the nude and go eat at the local Cafe with just a towel to sit on. ;) | |
| Just a point of perception that I wish to encourage everyone to view when concerning "laws"... I always phrase things in such a way as to say "decriminalize", rather than "legalize". This is much more than semantics, for these words have assumptions built-in. If something (plain nudity) is not immoral, then there is no justifyable reason to have a law against it, and therefore any existing law that is in existence needs to be repealed (decriminalized). To legalize something means to give special permission to do something that ordinarily would be illegal (and only things that are also immoral should be illegal). To pass a law permitting nudity has a built-in assumption that nudity is actually bad on some level, and therefore special permission is needed in order to participate in it. | |
| Great point, Sanman. The last thing we need are more laws. Very few ever get repealed so new laws allowing "legalized" nudity could definitely lead to conflict since laws against indecent exposure, etc. already exist. Jim | |
How's San Francisco working out for eveyone??? Just thought I would ask ... have a safe 4th of July and here is an idea...at your BBQ this year hand out copies of the Constitution...I know...I know...but it is always fun to see young people reading out loud the Constitution... | |
| This is a good and fun topic. Express your ideas and thoughts... but let's stay on topic please. | |
| Well so far, nudity is still ok in SF. Mind you, it is basically in only a few areas in SF for now, and SF weather being what it is, well Mark Twain said it best: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco," lol. | |
| My dream community would be a small town where clothing-optional would be the norm, not too far from the sea or a lake, with forests and nature. A community in which you could be nude all day if you wish, practice your sport nude, go shopping nude, party nude, etc. I presume it should be gated to avoid nasty voyeurs, but would be OK as long you do not feel being imprisoned from the rest of the world. You could even imagine having clothing optional schools in which all children would be taught tolerance and respect, where teacher could be nude to teach. A dream community centered on the human being and not of the car you drive, the brands you wear or the money you have. May be I'm a dreamer... :-) | |
| For the sake of discussion, would anyone be interested or willing to live in an off-grid community? One that provides for itself and has little or no economic connection to the outside? Work would be some skill to provide for the rest of the community. The older I get the better this is sounding to me. The only downside I can see is getting back into the mainstream if that was ever necessary. | |
| I think this guy, Mark Lakeman, a planner and architect in Portland, OR, has a handle on the question. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkrWBz44_W0&feature=related I've been to two of his talks here in Minneapolis. I don't know if he'd call himself a nudist, but in both of the talks, he made a pitch for social nudity. |
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