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Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships
| What are your thoughts on these organizations?; would you join them (if not so already)?; and/or why would you consider joining them?; Would you have a preference over one or the other? | |
| Let me express why I posted this subject. I had an interesing thing happen the other day when I dropped into the NC Chat. By the direction of conversation I got a feeling that most there (about a dozen or so) did not have a grasp of nudity and naturism. I posed the question if anybody there were members of AANR or TNS. Only one quickly and proudly stated he was a member of AANR. Others asked questions like in what state were those clubs or if they still had rules against admitting single males. Obviously there was a lack of nudist education/understanding or even interest in these organizations among those in the chat room that night. Needless to say I was amazed (maybe appalled is a better word) considering that this is a nudist based website that values the principles put forth by both AANR and TNS. For the record, I belong to both and think they are very important to continuing our quest for better understanding of nude recreation and nude living. | |
| As soon as I was aware of these two organizations...we joined both. That was back in the early 90's. Up til then, we were home/backyard nudists and my wife wasn't near ready to venture into the club or resort scene. I joined both because both have their strengths and weaknesses. Both, for the most part, do good work for naturists/nudists and without them...many things we, as nudists, take for granted would cease to be and the freedoms we do have, currently, would be taken away. Face it...you'll not find 10,000 nudists fighting for a section of nude beach, lake area, rivers, forests, clubs or resorts. But these org's have the strength of many times that amount and the internal resources to do what is possible to allow us to continue to practice our lifestyle with minimal intrusion. I too am shocked at how many people that practice this lifestyle or even partake in it as a hobby...do not know what AANR and TNS are. Our own circle of nudist friends just recently began to join and that's after several years of poking and prodding to get them to join. The internet has been an awesome tool for our lifestyle and the organizations but it's also attracted those that are here for the wrong reasons and when we strive to become BIG...we get too BIG and can't weed out all those that are here for the wrong reasons. ;) | |
| I am a former member of TNS and ASA and the now defunct North American Naturists. I recently applied for new membership in AANR, and as my finances level off and I eliminate some expenses, I fully intend to join TNS again. I consider both to be excellent organizations who have both done much more to further public acceptance of our lifestyle than many people realize. They have also provided legal assistance to clubs and inidviduals. I don't believe it is possible to over-state the importance of these organizations to the preservation and expansion of our lifestyle. | |
| I believe both organizations are good for the cause but I just belong to TNS as I dont belong to any resorts or clubs but do go the the Naturist gathering sponsered by TNS. | |
| I have to say it feels soooo good to hear all of your words of support, appreciation and understanding. I totally agree with each of you. I know that the economic situation has put a dent in the membership of these organizations but we really need to try to support those who support us in any way we can. Anybody else? | |
| At this point I am not a member of either of these organizations. I am fairly new to considering myself an actual nudist, and that is why I am here, to help myself understand more of the reasons I, as well as others, have made this choice. I do realize the importance of having representation for these rights we want to enjoy and I appreciate all of that. My problem is that at this point it is a financial problem for me to be able to join either or both. I hope that I will be able too at some point in the near future. Thank You to ALL those that can afford to be members to further this cause. | |
| At this time, since we are just starting out, we are not a members of either... we are planning to venture out to a resort this coming spring (hopefully the wife will not back out last minute and I don't want to push her into it)... I was looking at the AANR-SW site to join and it says to join at your local club so that's what I'm planning... | |
| Best wishes in getting your wife to join you, I truly hope she does. Another thought in helping her get more comfortable with nudity, The Naturist Society (TNS) has a very good publication titled "N" that has real life stories on the history of nudism and life in a naturist world. It doesn't just focus on recreation which AANR tends to do more. I think "N" gives a broader perspective to nude living for all ages and genders. Check it out. The folks at TNS are really helpful and nice, call them. Appreciate you considering joining AANR too. | |
| Used to belong to TNS, got married joined AANR/local resort for a few years. House needed lots of work/remodel/landscaping/plus working nights made it hard/impossible to enjoy being nude outdoors/socialing with spouse & fellow nudists. plans are in the works to complete making our backyard completely clothesfree. | |
| I am a member of both TNS & AANR. I enjoy all of the publications & feel it is important to support them as they both support education as well as our rights as nudist/naturists. They are both good. I also join SFFB even though I only get down there once a year I feel it is a good group & deserves my support. | |
| Bern and his wife Sherry Stafford put out the magazine...Naturally. They still do...except that Bern has retired and is on as a consultant...Sherry's taken over as Editor. This is a different publication from Nude and Natural (TNS) | |
| Thanks for providing the info FireProf, appreciate it. The Naturist Society's (TNS) magazine is "N - The Magazine of Naturist Living". It is a quarterly publication. You can go to their website if you would like to get it; www.naturistsociety.com. | |
| after reading all the posts I went to the TNS website looked it over and joined... I have to admit, I never really looked them up as for some reason I was stuck on AANR... eventually will join both... | |
| Having just received the latest issue of "N" magazine, the Naturist Society's publication, and reading through the many interesting and educating articles I thought about this post... and in a dishearten way. Why disheartened? Because of a cover letter informing readers that TNS had to let go one of their fantastic staff members due to buget shortages. Their budget is based on membership dues and monetary contributions. Obviously these are not keeping up with rising expenses. On NCH, and this AN Group more specifically, we "blab" about how much we appreciate nude recreation and would enjoy the ability to live nude as much as possible. Yet, we seem to put those organizations that promote nude living and defend our rights to be nude on the back burner as if they are not important. We make excuses for not becomng members of these same organization that support you no matter. Maybe I am closer to these organizations than many of you since I have regular conversations with their staff people on a variety subjects and provide input to them when ask for it. I appreciate and support these organizations and all the work they do for me and my desire to live and recreate nude. My hubby and I are members of both these organizations and support them as much as we can. For the price of a carton of cigarettes you can support and become a member of either TNS or AANR for a year and it is much better for your health. For less than the cost of a new replacement cell phone that you don't need you can support and become a member of either TNS or AANR for a year and you will still get all your phone calls. If you consider yourself to be an Absolute Naturist, if you enjoy the ability to be nude in the wonderful outdoors, if you enjoy the ability to recreate and socialize with nude friends, if you would like national organizations to support and help you should the law someday swope down on you... Support these organizations with your membership dollars. It is simply a matter of priorities...where are yours? Please join or at least buy something from them. Every dollar helps. | |
| Although I usually don't post here just to say "Me too." in this case I'll make an exception. I also belong to both AANR and TNS and believe strongly that my money is well spent. Without organizations such as AANR and TNS we nudists would have essentially no political power which is vital to the survival of our lifestyle. The other more tangible advantage to membership in these organizations is the discount that one gets at nude clubs for being a member. Most clubs give a 20% discount on grounds fees and over-night rates which can quickly offset more than the cost of membership. | |
| Just my two cents. We (Mrs and I) are both AANR and TNS members/supporters. Very worthwhile orgs. Remember, "Freedom isn't free, it all comes at a cost". I may not be in the frontline but I have no problem helping move the supply line. | |
| We recently joined AANR. One of the reasons is that I believe in naturism/nudism as a philosophy and thought that I should do something about it. We do not live in the US or Canada so we do not have chance to take full advantage of it but it feel so good to support a organization that stands up for nudist rights. | |
| Support it or Loose it... simple as that. To BillBowser, photon7378, 1Human, Smoothalx... thank you for your continued support, we are in good company. Your words speak volumes. SB | |
| I'm aware of the efforts of both organizations and frankly for AANR's size, theirs has been pitiful. They have gotten nowhere with the state of California"s DPR. If you know more I'd like to hear from you but from what I heard last Tony Perez told AANR's rep to go pound sand! | |
| I have been a member of both organizations since 1987 and would be happy to facilitate membership in TNS for those here. Since NCH is an affiliated "club," I would not step on their toes to also offer AANR membership except if someone were in the Carolinas or GA. Both organizations offer support of our venues and way of living. If you can afford it, please do join both. | |
| My wife and I have been members of both TNS and AANR for years, and feel that every naturist should support both organizations in whatever way possible, as both organizations offer support to naturists in different ways. Our local club, the Southern California Naturist Association, also believes in supporting both organizations, to the point that we offer discounts to first-time members subsidized by the SCNA to entice our members to join either or both, even though it’s not a requirement for SCNA membership. As many of our members are refugees from Elysium, and free beach activists, we’re naturally more inclined to support the grass-roots culture and efforts engendered by TNS, but we also see the need to support AANR, because they also do good work on many fronts. Although lately, especially in California, it seems our support has increasingly been taking to offering a dissenting opinion, or to be the “squeaky wheel” to the “credible voice of reason”, whenever we see them getting off track. | |
| AANR member and have been considering TNS for some time. After reading these posts, I'm going to do it! Wife and I will have membership in both orgs from now on. Thanks for all the info. | |
| When I first heard about AANR, a club said I needed to join AANR before I could get a membership. I thought it was just a money-making racket. Why should I have to join AANR to join a nudist club? But after I found out that AANR is legit and does good things to support nudism, I joined. Have considered joining TNS. | |
| Initially became an AANR member in 1997; but after two or three years of membership, let my membership lapse since I wasn't going to any nudist clubs/resorts. However, rejoined AANR in 2004 since the most important thing is supporting an organization who's objective is to protect our rights to be nude without offense to others. After reading some of these posts, joining TNS will be one of my New Year's resolutions. | |
| Update... wife and I are members of both AANR and TNS. We feel that both organizations need to be strong in order to act in our (nudists) best interests. | |
| We are proudly members of AANR and TNS. If we are going to move nudist acceptance forward, we must support the organizations who represent us...whether we agree totally with every item on their agenda or not. Is there total agreement with ANY organization? These are the ones we have and we support them. | |
| I have recently joined AANR and have thought about TNS. I hope to decide that one soon. I think the AANR does a good job or representing us and I am looking deeper into TNS to weigh the pros and cons. | |
| We belong to TNS only. We have nothing against AANR but rather than pay yearly dues to 2 nudist/naturist groups plus our local club dues, we chose to keep TNS membership. | |
| I have a Life membership with AANR. Considering joining TNS as well. | |
| I hope you do. I really enjoy their quarterly magazine "N" that comes with your membership automatically. A great deal and an excellent publication for outdoor naturist based stories and information. As I said before, I belong to both since I firmly believe we should support those who support us. I do tend to relate more to TNS... just more my thing. | |
| While I do support these organizations as many do, I wonder why there are not more Premium Members here? Just wondering... | |
| I am a member of AANR. I joined because it was offered by my resort. In reading through the information they sent, and the website, I liked their mission statement. I need to look into TNS. | |
| If I went to various clubs or events on a regular basis I might join an organization. Most of my nude rec is on public or private land and thus free. While I recognize that part of the membership fees help the pay for legal fees to keep nudism legal in places, I still can't justify the cost. I only go to two or three clubs a year and usually take advantage of specials and discounts when available. I have too many expensive hobbies already. I'm not making nudism another one. | |
| I guess we all have our PRIORITIES!!! I hope to be able to do MORE in support of NUDISM ASAP!!!!! | |
| This is an interesting topic in light of other topics here of late. I know there are folks on this site who are not real nudists. I think that in order to be on this website you should actually be a member of at least one of these orgs. I myself belong to both and have for some time. If your were required to be a member of one of these maybe it would eliminate some of these lookyloos. Ive seen some pics here that the person looked like they had locked themselves in the batroom pulled down their pants and shot a picture in the mirror quick before thier spouse or mom saw what they were doing. If a person is curious about being a nudist at least they would get educated in what nudism really is all about by being a member of one of these groups. | |
| I'm not a member of AANR or TNS only because I'd have a helluva time from my wife if I joined. I do belong to the Las Vegas BARES though I don't get to participate as often as I'd like. Jim | |
| Ya' know, I keep hearing some of you folks say that you can't afford to join either of these organizations. Is it really that? Do you know that you can join AANR for less than the cost of a carton of cigarettes? I am thinkin' that maybe you just don't want to be directly associated with a nudist organization yet want to enjoy the fruits of their labor. If I told you that you could join AANR for a year for only $42( thats less than 12cents a day), would you join? yes/no/other As for me, as I have said before, I belong to both AANR and TNS... I support those who support me. | |
| I am a member of AANR and am considering TNS, and I am a premium member here. I like this lifestyle, and do what I can to further our cause. | |
| SB, okay you've provoked me, in a nice way, to join both AANR and TNS. I'll buy the money orders tomorrow and send them out by Saturday. You're right, we need to support those who support us and the way we want to live. Having driven home nude this evening from an event helped seal the deal for me. There is no greater feeling than being totally nude as I am right now and will be until I HAVE to dress for work tomorrow morning. Okay, a slight exaggeration. I will put on my wrap when I go out to sit with the daughter and grandaughter simply for my daughter's comfort. When I'm at the computer though I don't cover up if she comes in to talk or ask me to hold the baby. She knows full well I'm a nudist and is okay with it but doesn't want to go clothes-free herself or to see me uncovered. By the way I'm also a premium member here as well. Jim | |
| The difference in being an AANR or TNS member and being a NCH member; clubs and resorts recognize AANR and TNS much more than they will a Premium member of a website. A Premium membership to NCH will not give the same benefits of a membership to AANR or TNS. | |
| But FireProf, we are still supporting the nudist community by joining and enrolling in the Premium Membership at NCH or other positive nudist sites. Although NCH doesn't have the same standing in the general community, Brian absolutely is positively promoting social nudity with this site...IMHO. Enjoy the Sunshine!! | |
| That is very true C-O and I totally agree. This topic was not about joining NCH as a premium member, it was about memberships in AANR and/or TNS. In a like vain anyone who supports nudist/naturist oriented businesses are also helping to support the community that supports them. Ever heard of TANR? Anyway, it's all good. By the way, Jim... I am sooooo glad to hear you are going to join AANR and/or TNS. They both provide their members with excellent publications that just may assist you on the homefront. I think of all our group members you are the one who has has allowed their cheese to be moved the most. I don't think you will ever regret it. I am very happy for you and I appreciate you being part of Absolute Naturists. | |
| I agree ... that's why I'm a Premium Member here as well but if I go to a club or resort and say ... "I'm a Premium Member of NCH" ... they may have heard of it but will say ... "that's nice..." and I may or may not get into the club. At the same token, even though Brian is an exemplary example of someone who promotes this lifestyle to the fullest, NCH hasn't established itself to get the same "benefits" belonging to either AANR or TNS can get you. If I go to a resort or club, will I be accepted in due to my membership with AANR or TNS ... or will a membership to NCH work just as well? I think the latter is great but is still not as well known and used as a gauge as to whether or not you'll be allowed entrance into said clubs or resorts. It would be great if NCH was recognized on the same level but I have belonged to a non landed club in upstate NY for several years that is affiliated with AANR and TNS and has a website but ... when I showed my club my AANR card with the clubs name on it ... the front desk people said ... "what's that?" I don't think many front desk people even get on the internet sites! LOL :D | |
| Well, if having an premium membership here, or being an AANR or TNS member becomes a prerequisite to being on Nudist Clubhouse, I suppose they will just kick me off the site. I'm not a "joiner" by nature. | |
| Just to update, I'll be mailing my membership applications to both AANR and TNS tomorrow. However, joining any of these organizations is NOT a requirement to be here on Nudist Clubhouse. I just decided it was time I support those organizations which support us. Whether I will renew again after the first year probably will depend upon the support I receive or perceive they provide. I did rejoin NCH after letting my membership lapse a few months in order to be able to see the posted images of and from members without them being blurred out. And, yes, I agree Brian has really done alot for the advancement of nudism and deserves my support monetarily as well as verbally or in written comments. Jim | |
| I'll tell ya Jim ... when I ditched my 27 year collection of Playboy magazines and replaced them with the AANR Bulletin, "N" magazine from TNS and Naturally magazine from Internaturally ... my wife's attitude toward being naked did a 180! And that's the truth! ;) | |
| Thankyou Jim. You are absolutely correct in all you say. You are a much appreciated member of this group and to social nudity. | |
| Thank you SunBunny and you too FP. You've both been great inspirations to me. Hopefully my wife's attitude will also change once I start receiving the magazines. I haven't subscribed to or purchased Playboy or any other "girlie" magazines in a very long time. Jim UPDATE: I decided NOT to add another post but just to say I did mail in y membership appls this morning along with payment for each. I didn't think to apply through either NCH or The LAS VEGAS BARES but did let them know I hold membership in both. On another note, I learned from a coworker whom I've been trying to get into social nudism for over a year anothe new coworker might be intersted in nudism. I mentioned it this morning and gave him an informational card for The Las Vegas Bares this morning. He seemed to really appreciate. Now the ball's in his court. | |
| My point above wasn't to make people feel they should have a Premium Membership on NCH, but to reinforce that supporting those organizations who are giving us not only credibility in the nudist world, but a forum for honest exchange of ideas, experiences and support should be supported. Certainly not a requirement, as we all make choices on where to spend our money. Mr and I are members of many online groups...some we support financially and some we do not. We support the ones that hold the same values we do about social nudity so that they can continue to provide that service. I would never expect membership in NCH or any other online social network to get us in the door at any club or resort...it only helps to keep sites like this open for our use in helping promote the social nudist lifestyle and share experiences. I understand the original question asked and encourage fellow nudists to support the primary advocacy groups (AANR, TNS, BN, FCN, etc. that Mr and I are members of) so they can continue the good work. But, we have the subset of organizations who get more to the grassroots of promoting social nudity. Just look at what this one group on NCH has done to provide a forum for a free flow of information! FP and SB have done a fabulous job of utilizing the platform that Brian has provided to positively promote social nudity. Without supporting the platform, FP and SB wouldn't be able to give us the opportunity to think and share here....that's all I'm saying. Enjoy the Sunshine! | |
| I've been a member of AANR and TNS since 1987. Both offer the support that we need to maintain and create new nudist/naturist venues. Please note, it's less expensive to join AANR through a club. Also, if you visit a landed club, it ends up paying for itself with the discount and you're looked at less carefully if there's a club name on your card. You can join through NudistClubHouse.com, Travelites or any of the over 200 clubs (landed and nonlanded) out there, just join. There is also a youth membership that will allow you to join AANR or TNS for lower amounts. TNS also has a Senior membership for those 65 and over. Both offer scholarships and publications. I would have a premium membership here if I were employed. | |
| I joined through my club, because it was cheaper. With my AANR discount on the day fee, the membership will pay for itself in 7 visits. | |
| When I arrived at Sun Meadow Resort last week, I could not help to be very appreciative of the AANR memeber card in my wallet. Thank you for allowing me to enjoy a week of being nude in a setting as wonderful as SMFNR. I hope more people take advantage of the membership. Believe me it's well worth it! | |
| C O Home, I couldn't agree more and joining and supporting sites such as NCH are equally as important ... my point was only that, even with the non landed club I belong to, that is affiliated with both AANR and TNS ... our club, a neighboring club and a club/resort up in Northern Cal ... didn't recognize the name and our affiliation with that non landed club didn't mean anything to the clubs we were visiting but they obviously recognized the AANR card. I'd venture to say that one of the only non landed clubs that is instantly recognized and known to many club office staff is ... The Travelites! We also support numerous other naturist sites, group and organizations because of what they do and what they provide for us, such as; GAT, NAC, NCH, NFN, FOSOB, BBB's ...and several naturist websites that promote wholesome family nudism/naturism. You are correct, it is important to support other orgs and websites that give us the opportunity to exchange information. SB and I appreciate the open and honest communication between many of us that are Absolute Naturists and the continued sharing of experiences, advice and opinions on all topics by you and other contributors. ;) | |
| These are both great orgs. I belong to both. They should be a requirement to be on this site. |
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