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| Living nude begins with overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors. It means simply living nude. "Clothing optional" is one foot in and one foot out. "Where appropriate" is one foot in and one foot out. "Living nude" is living nude. Where is your head at and why? | |
| The answer to this question does not take into account that we have to don clothing to leave the house for errands, functions/family events, work...etc. Technically speaking...and I hate to admit this, but we are "technically" clothing optional. :( We live nude all the time unless...someone comes to the door or there are people over that aren't nudists, or the landscaper or pool guy are here...and we live in a textile environment (tract home)or meet and greet the neighbors out on the street. The only way we could "simply live nude" completely is to move to a nudist community and not worry about those that come to visit, those that come to deliver or contract vendors coming to do work. If it wasn't an issue and we answered the door nude, greeted and talked with our pool and landscaper, remained nude when many came to visit...I would say we "Simply Lived Nude". ;) | |
| I see "clothing optional" in it's current usage, as simply being an instrument to help "newbies" become accustomed to nudity and to the idea of themselves becoming nude. It works extremely well at the club I go to. I also see a possible future usage of "clothing optional" as being where nudists/naturists and textiles can exist side by side in the same community with neither taking exception to the other, where a naked person would not draw negative comments from textiles, and vice versa, in short, a time and place where the term "clothing optional" would be redundant. | |
| I do live nude as much as I can and consider myself a nudist. Problem is that I do not live at a Nudist Resort/Comunity, so I am not able to be as open and free as I would like. I would LOVE it if I could!! Maybe some day.... | |
| I also don't live in a nudist community. I must don clothing to run errands, go into the front yard, greet visitors , delivery persons, etc. But, I do live nude as much as possible within my home and backyard. BBigBare said it right. I would like to see everyone accepted, nudist and non-nudist without causing offense or raising eyebrows. Jim | |
| Ditto Bigbare and Jim. When in my apartment, even with the blinds and curtains open, I am naked unless I'm cold, my hemorrhoids are acting up, or there is company who are non-nudists. John | |
| I think we are all conditioned, trained and forced to wear clothes. It started when we were very young, before we had any say over it. I said in the topic narrative "Living nude begins with overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors". We all have to deal with the textile rules of engagement,that is not what I was talking about... that is a different story and I get what everybody deals with. Even living in a nude resort, you still need to dress to get groceries and stuff. I do think it is interesting that almost all of you fell back into the "need to because" excuses so quickly without exploring in your heads the reasons why we think we need to wear clothes. I think when you over come the belief that you NEED to wear clothes, you begin to truly realized just how ridiculous they are in any setting. Also, you begin to relieve yourselves of the hangups and fears about social nudity and the ability to talk about the simplicity of nude living becomes easy. | |
| Hi, We are nudists, pure and simple. At home and in our back yard, we're nude 24/7. In Florida, we don't need to wear clothing, so we don't. The only time clothing is 'needed' is for protection. I will wear at least an apron when cooking and put on appropriate clothing while working in the garage or in the yard - for protection only. When we're out on our boat, the accepted rule is, 'Last Channel Marker, Last of the Clothes'. This is only so others who aren't nudists aren't offended. Not for protection. Finally, when we are going out on the weekends - shopping, restaurant, etc - we wear minimal clothing. Just shorts and shirt for me, and a light sundress for my wife. Undergarments are rarely worn. Of course, we wear normal attire when at work. No escaping that. Clothing, for us is a two-fold necessity: Protection and conforming to social norms. When neither of these are concerns, then we're nude. | |
| [SunBunny Quote] I think we are all conditioned, trained and forced to wear clothes. It started when we were very young, before we had any say over it. I said in the topic narrative "Living nude begins with overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors". We all have to deal with the textile rules of engagement,that is not what I was talking about... that is a different story and I get what everybody deals with. Even living in a nude resort, you still need to dress to get groceries and stuff. I do think it is interesting that almost all of you fell back into the "need to because" excuses so quickly without exploring in your heads the reasons why we think we need to wear clothes. I think when you over come the belief that you NEED to wear clothes, you begin to truly realized just how ridiculous they are in any setting. Also, you begin to relieve yourselves of the hangups and fears about social nudity and the ability to talk about the simplicity of nude living becomes easy. [End SunBunny Quote] You and your topics...really make us think beyond the usual response mechanisms seen on most naturist message board threads! LOL I'll delve deeper into my thoughts on this and repost! ;) | |
| The only reason that I have a "...the belief that you NEED to wear clothes" is because other people believe that so strongly that THEY would complain to the authorities. Otherwise, I would never wear clothing except for weather protection or when my hemorrhoids act up. John | |
| Even in a nudist resort, I have noticed people wearing hats to keep the sun off. Does that disqualify them from being a nudist? Also, people wear special bands, special hats, purses or towels of some form to keep money in for purchases (the resort's cafeteria, bar or visiting kiosk retailers). Often the latter will be removed, but the hats typically stay on all day. | |
| Okay...got my head on straight and think I can answer this question correctly! ;) I'm the "simply living nude" person in our relationship, my wife is the "one foot in, the other out." I began my preference for nudity long ago at 14. With every opportunity to be nude...I was nude. When I was on my own, had my own home...I was nude every second I could be. I saw no reason for clothing around the house or our yard and still don't. I don't crawl on the ground to avoid being seen by our neighbors even though several two story homes have views of our back yard. I go about my life each day, in the nude, as though I weren't a nudist. I'll tell you this; people in this town would probably tell you that they see me in the same damn clothes all the time...why? Because I wear them so seldom...they don't get dirty! LOL For too many years than I can remember...the first thing I begin to do when I'm in the clear...is begin to strip off the clothes I hate to wear. The only time I buy new clothes is when the ones I have...shrink! Damn closets do that to clothes! ;) I get aggitated easily when I've been wearing clothes for a long period of time...those are usually the times when I'm trying to strip off a suit in the truck for the ride home. The Prof is "one foot out" cuz...she usually waits til we're home before heading straight for the bedroom to strip. On occasion...she never makes it past the laundry room but...most times it takes her a few minutes before she's naked. She enjoys being nude and calls herself a nudist but...still likes clothes, like buying clothes and wearing them when needed but most times will wear a sheer cover up or shirt around the house. Never seen the need for clothing except for cold weather. I've done many projects needing many power tools, while I was nude...not injured yet. I'm pretty open about my lifestyle and don't really care who knows...even while I was working. | |
| Not living at a resort, we have to live by the laws and mores set by society. Here in So. Calif. I live in my house and backyard nude 24/7 except when it's too cold which is rare. If I work in the front yard, I only wear a sorong and my neighbors have all seen me that way. I take it off as soon as I go to the back. I must wear clothes when I go to work or on errands but then it is the least that I can get away with wearing. Never any underwear. It is simply what makes me the most comfortable. Being nude as much as I possibly can is just my mind set. Someday I would love to be in a place where I would never have to wear clothes except when too cold. So far, my record for that is eight days and nights straight when on vacation at Caliente Caribe. Not even a stich! | |
| I had an intresting experience the other day which speaks to the essence of this topic. We are now living at our home in the nudist park in Texas. It is a NUDIST community, not a Clothing Optional. We do have local contractors and other craft people come into our small community. They are not nudists but know we are. Anyway, we are thinking of having an addition to our home but not quite sure what yet. So the contractor and I were walking around our patio area discussing different ideas and taking wall measurements... me completely nude, him dressed. It was no big deal either way and looking back at the moment, it was the perfect example of Simply Living Nude. I just wish my hubby had taken a picture... it was so normal that it would have been priceless. | |
| I'm trying to get to that point SB! First and foremost...would love to live as you and your husband do...but financially unable at the moment! LOL Second...though I'm not one of those that promotes answering the door nude when you don't live in a nudist community, I have been answering the door in my mesh shorts and walking through the backyard and house with recent contractors/vendors. I'd like to get to the point where I can simply explain to those contractors/vendors that they will be visiting a nudist home and if they have any reservations, I'd like to know or maybe they could send someone that isn't embarrassed or bothered by it. I do like your recent encounter and think it exemplifies Simply Living Nude! Short story...I think I've posted it before but...I was in the pool at Glen Eden and this woman came into the pool area, took her shirt and shorts off and got in the pool and began talking to those of us in conversation. She said she had to leave the house cuz she was "simply living nude"...doing things around the house and their contractors building their deck...weren't getting any work done! LOL | |
| SunBunny, I applaud you for living the life you advocate so strongly. It's great you and your husband can live totally nude as much as you wish. It's great the contractor understood and respected you as a person and treated the whole issue professionally, according to hat you wrote. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Yes I am fortunate to be able to live nude as I do, but that is not what I was getting at. I guess my point, for lack of a better way of saying it, is that this type of interaction is possible and quite normal when you remove the issue of sex from the equation. This is what we all need to strive for in our convictions, beliefs and everyday actions if we want it to happen. I do hope that one day you can enjoy nude living as I do. It is an unbelievable life. | |
| It is absolutely possible but a bit harder for those of us not in your environment. When a contractor agrees to do work in a nudist community...they know up front that they are venturinig into that type of environment. I'll bet that the contractors that agree to it and are first time visitors probably expect something different than what they typically encounter. People doing everyday life things just like in the tract homes but...these people don't wear clothes. It's not a parade of Playboy Bunnies, Pethouse Pets ... just everyday people without the airbrushing! ;) I truly think that this can happen in my neighborhood but...I think, for me, I'd like to give my contractors a heads up before they are greeted at the back gate by a naked man, or the front door by a naked man. I think in my situation...they don't expect to see nudity in this environment as they do at your residence and community. I have gone for walks around Glen Eden and seen contractors doing work. I've stopped, asked questions...even asked if I could have a couple of scrap pieces of wood for a project I was doing. They both talked to me for a few minutes like we were any place else. They had been there many times before and done lots of work on many of the residences. The closest I've gotten to simply living nude is with my next door neighbor. He's seen me so many times that now we both just go about our daily routines and when he sees me...he just smiles and waves as if I was clothed and out front. Great neighbor...too bad my entire tract isn't like him. ;) | |
| As I've stated before, I wish my entire neighborhood would adopt a nudist lifestyle, or at least tolerance toward nudity. It would allow us to live the way SunBunny describes. Unfortunately, however, even my own wife is opposed to my open nudity so I certainly can't hope the neighborhood will accept my nudity. And, I cannot post a front door sign advising nudist(s) lives here. Jim | |
| I just wanted to go back to FP's "technically CO" comment. I experienced the same thing. I started off on the home nudist path with a "nude all the time" mindset; which rapidly got thwarted for multiple reasons. One of them being that I was a smoker (my fault) in my early days of marriage - and a nicotine craving would cause me to dress back up to go out and smoke. My wife often wore a T-shirt while cooking dinner; and sometimes didn't take it back off after dinner. I also sometimes worked evenings, causing me to have to get dressed and leave while my wife was arriving and undressing. That all made for some unavoidable CO situations, sometimes with me being the one dressed while every one else was nude, or the other way around. All of us being nude at the same time actually took a concerted effort. That's why we came up with designated times and activities that were "all in the buff" Of course I now live in the middle of the city; so I am nude at home all the time - but I don't spend that much time at home... I think a full nude living scenario is only possible in a rural area or in a nudist community. At one of my friend's house, it is actually possible to walk out through the back yard into a wooded area and hike completely nude and completely unseen. With very few visitors, it is possible to maintain fairly constant nudity - aside of course from work requirements. | |
| I see Simply Living Nude as a goal. I agree with others who have said that they must be clothed as a matter of practicality. The realities of work and the communities we find ourselves living in dictate that clothing is involved somehow. Also, clothing does have an important role in protection from the elements. I recently spent 2 weeks in Alaska and the climate is either -40 degrees in the winter or covered in agressive mosquitoes in the summer. Awesome place, but a place where a suit of armor is helpful for survival. Also, as I see it, circumstance does not define a nudist. I've seen posts from people who agree with the ideals, but cannot practice at home, mainly due to family rejection, and have no where to go to practice outside of the home. I would consider these people nudists just as much as those who are fortunate enough to have the ability to be clothes-free 24/7/365. I myself had a recent change of life circumstance where I can shape my lifestyle. I started with buying several wooded acres in a rural community where I can be nude about 50% of my day. And, I can eventually evolve into a 24/7/365 nude lifestyle as I continue to shape my situation, but this was not possible until I was a bit older and had more personal resources. Some don't make the leap of changing their world significanly enough to make that happen, but I hail them as fellow nudists none the less. | |
| I think the actuality of "Living Nude" may be the goal for many but the actual transition from a believed need for clothing to the realization that clothing is not needed is the start of simply living nude and where the paradiagm shift occurs in mindset that makes it normal. Nudity is no longer a focal point of existence, it just is. | |
| Hi. I'm new here. I'm one foot in one foot out...or less. I live in the city and do my yoga and weights nude. That's about it. Big tempting garden, in a very tolerant neighborhood, but not quite screened, not tolerant enough. I get the hairy eyeball from my comedian wife when I do something non-exercisey nude. I've got a juggling meditation I do, in the living room, and I wear a pair of shorts to do that to avoid the distraction of anticipated awkwardness in the event of visitors. Theoretically, nudity, not the other, should be the default. | |
| Welcome Tom! Wow, SB...that's actually pretty deep! I think, though, that you have to be in the right place to experience this transition. Me for example...I am constantly aware of the presence of clothing in my life. When I get up in the morning, I immediately start thinking about what to wear - which shirt, which tie will match the shirt best, which pants. I am nude until I get dressed and leave...but during that time I am thinking about work and clothes. When I get home I am thinking about clothes again...which ones I am going to wear to go out or to the gym. Sunday morning, if I'm packing my backpack before heading to Mazo, I am thinking about what to wear for the trip...should I wear underwear or just go commando? Clothes are not always on my mind, but they're on my mind a lot. I have been on extended nudist stays a few times. One of the longest ones was about 5 or 6 days...2 days at nudist friends' home, 2 days at a resort, and then another day or two nude at home before going back to work. I had one or two pairs of shorts and T-shirt for the entire time. So right off the bat I didn't even have to think about what to wear. The first two days, except for a brief trip to town, I was nude the entire time. Then I was dressed for about 2 hours the next day for the drive to the resort. When I arrived, I undressed in the parking lot and left my clothes in the backseat; and stayed completely nude until the next evening. A two hour trip back home...and I was nude as I walked through the front door and nude again non-stop until the next evening. Aboutt 100 hours and only 5 or 6 with minimal clothes on. BTW, I'm sure many of you have beaten me! For now anyway!;) During that time I viewed nudity and clothing in an entirely different light. I actually didn't think about clothing much until I had to put some on; and then I knew dressed was just a temporary state - while nudity was going to be the norm. I gues my point is that if you're a nudist yuppie living in the city (I'm not a yuppie, btw!), you're not going to experience nudity like a nudist retiree living in a ranch off the beaten path. No matter how hard you try, you can't have the same relationship with clothing or all-encompassing approach to nudity. Not that I'm aware of anyway... | |
| guess i ahev to say optional , whilst at work ahve to wear suaitble protective clothing to oddly ernough protect ourselves from sunburn and cancer as a result. over here (Australia) unless in a approved place itas deemed illegal to eb naked outside in public. to extend that even if i was on my own property for decency reasons (for neighbors) I am also required to wear clothes. crazy part is I can go to a local beach (admit over 1 hour drive away) and some girls wear bathers with just the essentials covered up they may as well be nude anyway | |
| You can be a victim of your environment or your environment can be a victim of you... your choice, it is a mindset either way. That is my point I don't care where you live or work. All that other stuff is just excuses we make for ourselves. I totally understand the requirement (not need) to wear clothing by community norms. How much focus you put on it is the point. I like to dress up, it's fun and makes me feel sexy sometimes. In my thinking, this is "dress up" time and outside my normal living mindset. Even indigenous tribes do it for a variety of ceremonies. It has a purpose but is not how they live or think about clothing. Speaking of "dress up" time, let's face it, clothing is sexy. Clothing accentuates our bodies and the sexual parts of our bodies, that is what it is designed to do. When you pick out that certain tie in the morning, why do you pick a certain one... because it makes you look good and makes you feel attractive in your view of self, right? Nude living is not sexy in and of itself. There is no need to pick out anything to make you look good or feel attractive. Nothing is pushed, shoved, lifted, squeezed or color matched. It is a nude body with arms, legs, feet, hair, scars and so forth. ok, brush your teeth, take a shower and comb your hair, but that is it. This may be a reason why people try to adorn their bodies, to be sexy which go's back to the correlation of the percieved need to wear clothing or adornment. It is a very insecure way to live your life. Think about it. | |
| "I totally understand the requirement (not need) to wear clothing by community norms. How much focus you put on it is the point." Hmmm...but is clothing about expectation or attraction? For example, I'm in the financial arena. For a meeting, a suit and tie is expected. Regular day: shirt and tie. If I choose not to care about whether the shirt and tie match, people notice and talk. I've "broken" the expectation of how a "financial guy" should look. And when I break the expectation I loose credibility. And when I loose credibility my future with the organization is jeopardized. I think of these different clothing combinations as masks. I have to select a mask based on whatever mask is expected that day. Sure, I have to be mindful of my mask; but the difference between me and a textile is I know it's just a mask. I can toss it aside when I'm done with it. | |
| "I think of these different clothing combinations as masks. I have to select a mask based on whatever mask is expected that day." You hit the nail directly on the head. Regardless of how many pieces of cloth I am adorned with, I am still naked where it counts; underneath it all. "...I know it's just a mask. I can toss it aside when I'm done with it." | |
| "If I choose not to care about whether the shirt and tie match, people notice and talk. I've "broken" the expectation of how a "financial guy" should look." Yep. We all wear uniforms to work. From the McDonald's fry cook, to lawyers & doctors. I had some trouble understanding this when I was younger, and I've worked with some younger guys who didn't get this. I work as a software engineer, and programmers tend to like the nerdy T-shirt, goatee, scruffy hair, etc. image. But I work in a very "professional" company, so that kind of thing does not win you points. Khakis & collared shirt are the standard uniform. The "yeah, but we're creative professionals so we can wear what we want" attitude doesn't fly. You're an engineer and represent the company (even if no customer ever sees you). Clothing is very contextual. Different clothing is expected in different contexts and communicates things to those around you. At home, at the beach, and a few other places, I prefer to wear nothing - and I think it is a perfectly legitimate uniform. |
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