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| The following request from Club Orient was published recently in the AANR Club /Trustee Weekly Report. Request from Club Orient We are currently in search for "new faces" of Club Orient. As we have done in the past, we only choose real naturists who are in good standing in all naturist organizations/communities to represent all our marketing materials. This year, we decided to request naturist organizations to ask their members to join our search. We wish to get a better representative not only of our resort, but of the naturist community as well. The following are the criteria we are looking for: Must be in good standing with the nudist organization they belong to. Must not have appeared in any unethical or pornographic photography. Between 25-35 years old. No tattoo or very small tattoo is accepted. At least average built. Clean appearance. Must be available for a photo shoot around second week of August. *** What do you think about this search? What do you think about AANR's involvement? Anything else? Your thoughts please. | |
| I think the age requirement sucks, but they would say I was too fluffy anyway! LOL | |
| are they trying the same qualifications as the Miss America/Miss World pagents to include skeletons in the past/closet?. | |
| They probably hired an ad agency that is aiming at certain demographics. Yes, there looking for the business of young people for honeymooners. You all have heard the expression “sex sells”. I recently saw a video on this site about getting younger people to try nudism and the younger people were saying they weren’t interested in the same things older people were. It’s ashame. | |
| I agree with Wayne. Club Orient is a wonderful, very comfortable place for all ages and shapes/sizes. My wife and I are way out of the demographic they want for the ads, but love it there. But they are a business and need to attract a younger market to survive and prosper. Good for them that they are at least looking for "real" nudists. If only there were more places like Club O!!! | |
| I have heard good things about Club "O" and it looks very nice. This wasn't intended as a beat down... business is business. I do think it is a bit of a conflict for AANR but then again... business is busines. I have not been to Club "O" but maybe someday soon we will get there. | |
| @ Smokey and Joe.S...those are some pretty extreme points of view ya got there. Relax! :) Remember Adverstising 101?? "Sell the sizzle, not the steak." There's also the reality in showbiz that open calls can be a nightmare in the numbers of applicants. That's not to say that half the world's population would beat down Club Orient's door for a chance to represent them....but by stating certain qualifications - whatever they may be - it thins the pool a bit and makes the selection process a bit less time consuming. As for Club Orient, the wife and I stopped by there while spending a couple nights in St Martin in early Dec on our way back from St Barths. What was gonna be a couple hours at the beach turned into ALL DAY! Great vibes. Great facilities. Friendly staff. When I have time, I'll do a little write-up about that trip. But suffice to say next time we get down thatta way, we'll probably forgo St Barths and stay at Club Orient. In closing, folks who are put off by a youthful / healthful slant in a resort's marketing simply need not spend your $$$ there. (By that token, you might refrain from spending $$$ on shampoo or cars or Vegas hotels...have you seen their advertising?) If you prefer more open qualifications to represent a naturist interest, perhaps try auditioning for Clothesfree TV. I think the only qualifications there are being age 18 or over, and having a willingness to appear on camera. :) | |
| Again I say to Smokey -- Relax! Ain't gonna get into a flame war over points of view. But a few notes... 1 - Show me where I said "sex sells" in any previous post. Never said it or implied it. You're certainly free to interpret however you like...but if that's the specific conclusion you reach, what is it that's really on your mind? 2 - Narrowing the field is not discrimination. I personally know several folks who get (and lose) modeling gigs all the time over physical attributes. They either possesses the attributes a client is looking for, or they don't. So what?? 3 - We met all kinds of folks at Club Orient. Didn't keep tabs on whether any could potentially represent the resort. We did keep tabs on how awesome we felt while we were there though. We also noticed some folks were outgoing, and others preferred to keep to themselves...then again, we also see that at the coffee shop. 4 - I don't trust you that a 20-something will feel ripped off by pictures of people in a brochure. By your own admission, the ultimate motivation isn't (or at least, shouldn't be) what folks look like. Body Acceptance, right? If you're going to a clothing-optional or nudist resort based on what folks in the promotional material look like, are you there for the right reason? 4a - I do, however, trust you that a 20-something might feel ripped off if the promotional material shows a clean and well-kept property that, in reality, is filthy and in disrepair. By that token, I might feel the same way. 5 - Where's the slam on Clothesfree TV?? Is it the comment on the qualifications...over 18 and willingness to appear on camera?? How could that possibly be interpreted as a "slam"?? Especially in light of the fact that you're critical of Club Orient seeking :) | |
| ok fellas, before we have any blood shed, let me go back to the original intent. This was always about potential conflicts of interest between national organizations and individual organizations (AANR v Club O). I think it would be terribly naive to NOT believe "sex sells" in advertising and that the majority of persons in the world still think social nudity is all sexually based. Example, the two topics on this group with the highest nuber of views could be consider sex based by title. Nude in Public = 11,748 views, Nudist Women = 8,288 views. Topics on NCH are picked up on any internet search so it is not just NCH people looking, it is the textiles. I think both of you have valid points, just different approaches. Debate is good. The mainpoint of the whole thing as I see is that businesses have to put their best game faces on to attract biz, even if sometimes it maybe a little off kilter. AANR has so many differest constiuents that it becomes even more difficult for them to keep a balance. dammed if you do and dammd if you don't sort of thing. That is not an excudse for them to hide behind but rather an logical understanding of the reality. In the entire scheme of things, this is small stuff and as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. The big picture is getting people to these places (Club O or wherever) to see first hand that we are not all just a bunch of rabbits humping all day long, we are just normal everyday people who enjoy being nude. Am I right? | |
| I'm just jealous that I don't qualify for the position. Business is business | |
| SB...I agree and being someone that has visited Club Orient numerous times...I can say with certainty that, when we are there, we don't see many of the "demographic" naturists that Club O is currently seeking for their new pictures. It is a great thing, to attract the younger people, but as we've discussed in detail and at length...many of them don't want any part of it, don't want to hang out with us older nudists and...prefer to do their own thing at their own places and don't have the money to stay at a place like Club O...so why is Club O seeking this demographic for their website pics??? If you do a little research...you'll find that the current manager of Club O used the same business tactic when he owned a resort in Palm Springs. Numerous full page ads, with pictures of young couples enjoying pools and grounds that were NOT on the grounds of the resort advertising. The resort is still doing that today under new ownership and management. So...it's no different, what Club O is seeking, than what some of the other upscale resorts are doing for business. Personally...I think that when this demographic that Club O wants to entice to come because they think ALL those hard body youngsters are filling the beach and resort...they are going to be surprised at the REAL demographic of this truly wonderful resort. Hope to get back there someday soon! FP |
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