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Single Nudists Unite! Does single exclusion mean barrier to young people
| During the night I walk up thinking that when clubs have restrictions on single entering or becoming member result in younger people not giving nudism a try. Isn’t it better that admittance or membership be based on chertier. Wouldn’t this result in people meeting and potentially becoming married. One would definitely find someone who also enjoyed the nudist lifestyle | |
| These clubs are private and they can allow anyone they want in or not allow anyone they want to keep out... but it bothers me that they hide behind a "standard" set by the national organization and not follow those standards! I think single exclusion and married couples wishing to join separately excluded is really hurting the clubs. I have a grown daughter that would love to join but her husband does not want to...currently. All our daughter's friends would like to go try it out...but not without our daughter. But our club won't allow her to visit without her husband. There are potentially 6 - 8 new members for our club and they are excluding them by not allowing my daughter to visit alone. These barriers are not only archaic but are definately keeping the younger people away. It's left a definate ... bad taste in my mouth, and it's definately affected the amount of time or energy I want to commit to our club. :( | |
| This is nothing new. Years ago some clubs used to exclude couples because they weren't married, and the policy towards singles was worse. Many of these people, (prof can vouch for this in his part of the world) went to the nude beaches, as did their children and now their grandchildren. You couldn't pay them to go to a club. AANR won't rock the boat because they need the numbers and the money. Prof, that policy is absurd. She is part of your immediate family and there is no reason she should be barred. Are people whose spouses are in nursing homes or housebound because of illness also barred? Or whose spouses work different shifts? I know individual nudists group has a list of single friendly and non-friendly clubs. You might want to name names here as well. Caution is fine, but not at the expense of common sense. | |
| Yeah Calm...we have that list of single friendly clubs. It's just that our club is so close and I see the "rules" broken ALL the time...but only for those "friends" of people that work or live at our club. We have a way in...we just would rather do it the "right" way...or follow the "rules" but they aren't for everyone. While on the subject of young people and nudism...I really feel that the younger people HAVE to get involved, join and THEN make suggestions for change...NOT...demand changes before they'll come! ;) | |
| Prof, I agree on the last point. Join the club, get involved in something, mingle, and then make suggestions. | |
| Allo .... I think it should not be so, because I think that naturism is freedom and respect for ourselves and for others, I think that naturism is beautiful by the communion of persons, whether we are alone or with others. | |
| FireProf - Is there anyway that you could work through Sun SIngles (I don't know how much power they exert)? Today I met a young man at G.E. who was single and was interested in finding a number of other young people such as him. Several of us recommended VitaNuda. But the resort needs to recognize that he and others could add quite a few young people to the membership lists. BUT they would need to free up some of the rules. | |
| The way around this is to have my SIL visit with our daughter. He's unwilling to get naked but will tour...but the club insists he be naked. Not sure if Sun Singles is the way to go with my daughter being married and having a reluctant partner/spouse. ;) | |
| So, where does that leave those of us that have no spouse or significant other? | |
| I think you have a better chance of getting into a club as a single male than you do as a married male with a non participating spouse! One way in, as a single male, is to join a non landed club and visit with the club every chance you get. Establishing yourself through repetitive visits and recognition always helps. I know that our club allows single males but you'll have to jump through some hoops! An interview, tour and then ... believe it or not... you'll be watched and you never know if it's just others who routinely don't trust any male there alone or ... one of those members/residents asked to keep an eye on you. For the record...I went through this and I hated it! What bothered me more was the change in attitude towards me once they found out I was a firefighter...like that made me better or more trustworthy than the next guy. I've visited Deer Park and Olive Dell and they are not quite as ... uptight about the rules for singles. FP | |
| For a single person it is a must that you have a membership in either AANR or TNS. From personal experience being able to say you been to a nude beach is a help. I personally have no problem with the interview gives me a change to let them know I know the purpose of there club and the tour get me familiar where things are located. I still have the question that I started out with does these single policies discourage younger people from trying nudism. | |
| From personal experience, I can say that 'singles exclusion' turned me away from the resort environment when I was younger. I was raised a nudist, and still maintained my own views and habits, but did not venture near the resorts. Today's resort owners, for the most part, permit and welcome singles, for the reasons FireProf stated. "Many potential Members". my 2 cents. | |
| You are correct Wayne...I didn't mention it because I was assuming we were speaking of single AANR or TNS members and not someone who was not. :) I understand that "anyone" can be an "associate" member of either organization and that being a member of either org is not an automatic pass for entry into a landed or non landed club but it is a start... What the rub is, is that even those singles that are AANR or TNS members for some time are STILL having problems getting into AANR affiliated clubs! That is not right.. It is very possible that this singles exclusion can be a barrier to young people visiting and joining a club or naturism. Many of them are not "attached" and still do recreational things as a group. If the group is comprised of more males than females and they go to visit a club...I would imagine that a club may have some issues with allowing ALL the single males in and that's not right or fair. | |
| OK. I have a serious question here. I can somewhat understand the resorts trying to "equalise" the male/female ratio. My question is: what is the problem with 'singles acceptance' PERIOD? Should anyone care if there are more females than males? If the majority of the females are part of a 'couple', then what is the true issue? Shouldn't nudist/naturist resorts concern themselves with providing a comfortable, relaxing environment for ALL nudists, regardless of sex or "attachments"? As a single male, I don't wish to be judged by my marital status (or lack thereof), merely allowed to enjoy the freedom of a clothes free environment. I did not CHOOSE to be widowed, but I did choose to remain a nudist. I'm sure there are females in the same relative circumstances, yet we don't address THAT inconsistency. Where is "our Acceptance of Individuality"? | |
| I'm certain the vast majority of singles here and many couples sympathize with you that are from here...it's those that either own the resorts/clubs or are part of the governing board that come up with these rules. Usually because they had a few or even several incidents or complaints, be they valid or not, with single males, the rules changed and many of these ol' timers are still there and still in control of the gates! Along with those rules...there are some rules that the younger people just don't like. Young people don't like being told they can't do...ANYTHING! They are more resistant to authority and so many of them feel as though they are equal to anyone and everyone...there's hardly any respect for those older than they are. When these young people come to visit clubs and they are handed a sheet to sign with the multitude of rules...many of them say..."the hell with it, we'll just get together at home and not deal with all these rules!" I'll have to rescend my previous post about singles exclusion being the barrier and change it to this reason... ;) | |
| My answer to this question is yes. There are so few young people, nevermind single young people! Which I believe is due to economics. Young people don't have the disposable income that is required to travel to and join nudist clubs. The only young single people that I've seen at my club were in the military (there's a base about 1 1/2 hrs. from the club). Every now and then a young couple will show up, but they don't seem to return. Maybe that's because the median age of our members is 55??!! I'm afraid that if young people don't visit and join the nudist clubs that they will die a slow death as their members die off. I know of one club in New England that doesn't allow any singles unless you are already a member and your spouse has passed away. Their numbers are dwindling all the time. It be a shame for social nudism to die off. | |
| Good thread. I was recently turned away at a local landed club in So Cal because I was single. I was told that I needed to bring a female companion to keep the ratio acceptable. I even have an immediate family member that has been to this place numerous times. This would have been my first visit to a resort, but now I guess it might be a while before I go to one. From what I read, there is a serious lack of young people involved in Nudism. With that being said, and being 27 myself, finding a lady friend in my age group to accompany me is not an easy task. Having worked in the Middle East for the last year, a relationship was pretty much out of the question for me, and I don't have any lady friends that will accompany me (yet, anyways). Its hard to talk someone into trying something with you when you haven't actually done it yourself. Working in aviation, and at times living in a place for only a few months makes it difficult to plant roots somewhere. There are a lot of other young people like this too. Unlike many young people, money is not an issue for me, it is the "single" part. More than half of the people I know near my age are single, so I would agree that this is hurting Nudist recreation. If it isn't one thing, then its another.... I guess I will stick to being nude at home, go to a beach, or hiking the mountains for a while. I know there are more clubs out there to try, but this has really put a damper on my motivation right now. *I do not want to name the club as the owner/manager was nice about it, and from everything I have heard it is a great place. Nudism is a small community and these are people's businesses and livelihoods, I don't want to burn any bridges or make any enemies, I just want to be naked! | |
| BareWings go to the AANR website in California there are 4 places to choose from. Your acceptance would be enhanced if you are a AANR member and with the change in bylaws you will get a reduced rate. I don’t know when that will start. The resorts give you a discount so in just a few visits it pays for itself. A nudist beach is always a good place for your first experience. However, there has been a little hassle in CA From what I see there doesn’t seem to be any Non landed clubs. To other members of this group if you know more about this please post or contact me so I can pass the word along. | |
| Thanks Wayne. I just joined AANR online recently. I had originally planned on joining while at the resort, but that changed, of course. I have seen the other places, and may try them in a few weeks. | |
| I don't understand the mindset of excluding singles (men, women, married but going without spouse). I've noticed there are way more nudist men than women (one only has to look at the "member online" list here to see that), and requiring equilibrium in attendance/membership numbers is silly. Young people are getting married later in life, or not at all. To exclude them is silly. If I was excluded from a club because of my marital status, I would make sure to NOT recommend that club to anyone, married or single. Social nudism is supposed to be social, not exclusive. My .05 worth |
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