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Nudony

Posted: Jun 16, 2012

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Ok; this is my first topic here on A.N!

I was just wondering what everyone's (particularly those who have experienced it) thoughts and feelings about clothed/nude interactions. I'm not talking about a chat with a nudist that happens to be wearing a sarong or T-shirt. I'm talking about interacting nude with a fully clothed individual. The question has been asked before (although not here I don't think), and the answer has often been: "I really don't care as long my nudity is accepted", but I often wonder if that statement is based on fact or assumption. No unconscious shift in body posture? No sudden defensive reactions?

My personal experience with this surprised even me. I was visiting some nudist friends at their home, we'd been nude all day with them, watching TV, chatting, laughing. Suddenly, a knock on the door. It was a friend of theirs that was dropping by to vent to our hostess about her marital difficulties. She'd been around them nude before; I could tell it wasn't a big deal for either of them. I realized after a few minutes that she wasn't going undress. But then she started talking to me; and I instantly felt awkward. And I realized that it genuinely bothered me that she was sitting in front and looking directly at me, she fully dressed in sweater, jeans and boots, and I completely nude. After she left (quite a bit later on), I learned that her husband was a nudist but she wasn't. Hence her having been around them nude before. As she left, I also realized the relief I felt as I finally got up from the couch and started walking around their house again.

I've often tried to auto-analyze why I react so defensively to a nude/clothed situation. Perhaps it's because I'm a shy person; and in spite of the fact that I have no hang-ups about disrobing in a nudist situation, my shyness comes out when dealing with the "barrier" that clothing creates. Or maybe it's more subconscious thing of clothes/nudity duality in my mind.

Anyway, I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts/experiences were.

RabbitnBunny

Posted: Jun 16, 2012

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We have a non-nudist friend who comes over quite a bit, and has often been the only clothed person in a group of nude people. We can't budge her to disrobe (major body issues, all in her own mind).

At Baker Beach in San Francisco, the north end of the beach is the nude end, but on a really crowded day, you will find plenty of textiles mixed in with the nudes. It happens, and no one cares.

Now, the one time I did feel awkward, was at a resort in N. California with the usual double standards. My ex and I were walking around their lake, and a group of fully dressed teen boys passed us. That's the double standard, adults expected to be nude, but ok for minors to be dressed. Anyway, these were high school age, and they made US feel like the oddballs, and we felt like leaving the resort.

So I think the key is numbers. If the nudists outnumber the textiles, no problems.

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FireProf

Posted: Jun 16, 2012

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My nude/clothed interaction used to happen at work. My crew knew I was a nudist. They expected to see me nude when the opportunity arose ... even at work. This interaction happen in a few of places, the locker room, the head/shower or either my dorm or the main dorm.

In the beginning ... I would stand at my locker and face the locker while we talked but gradually ... I began to face them, one by one or in a group and we'd just talk or they'd have a question, concern and we talk about it.

After a while, they'd knock on my dorm door, knowing I was naked and come in and talk about any number of things. A few would even pull up a chair and sit for periods of time to talk about an issue they were having, a problem at the hospital or with a particular co worker.

Too many times to count ... I was standing or sitting naked while my co workers were fully dressed and we'd converse. It became a non issue quite rapidly and I really only had one guy that had a problem with it, said something about it, then ... after I'd made arrangements for both of us to encounter one another when I was nude ... he broke the arrangements and then told me ... "it really doesn't bother me as much as I thought it did."

I good with it ... as long as the clothed person is!

;)

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jimshedd112

Posted: Jun 16, 2012

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I don't have an honest answer. But, the few times I've arrived at a nude social setting I noticed I didn't get undressed until I saw others were undressed.

When I attended the Friday night pool party during theExpo I arrived clothed at the nude hotel and observed those in the front lobby were clothed. I continued through to the "coat check room" and remained clothed as I waited my turn to turn in my clothes until I realized, what the heck am I waiting for and undressed before I arrived at the table to turn in my clothes. Is it a cultural conditioning issue and still subconsciously uncomfortable for me because I'm still a relative newbie of only about two years?

Why should I care if others are clothed and I'm nude as long as they're okay in the situation? I would love to become so comfortable being nude I wouldn't even realize it whether among strangers or friends and in any setting.

Jim

Armadillo

Posted: Jun 17, 2012

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I get a bit uncomfortable when talking to a clothed person, even if that person is a nudist. Not sure why.
This is odd for me because, if public nudity were legal I would be the first one to shop at Walmart nude.
Maybe it's just that clothes introduce an unexpected separation in a situation where nudity is expected?

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diabloblanco

Posted: Jun 17, 2012

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The only time I have encountered such a situation was at the pool parties in Vegas also, as the gentleman operating the grill was clothed all the time, but I did not find it awkward at all, as I was there to enjoy being nude and partying as well as attend the expo. I was not bothered at all that the hotel staff remained clothed all the time.

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Bauhausnude

Posted: Jun 19, 2012

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Speaking of "barriers", below is the web address to a story on MSNBC.com regarding a former barrier that separated nudists from non-nudists at a New York beach.




http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbc-news/47873549/#47874455

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 20, 2012

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I have had a number of situations where I was totally nude and the person I was talking to or interacting with was totally clothed. Here are a couple of real life examples:
Hidden Beach, MX - Staff is totally clothed, guests are almost totally nude all the time. Me totally nude with the resturant staff, bar staff, guest staff, etc. It was very confortable for both of us. Like no big deal.

Natures Resort, TX - With contractors, contractor employees, USPS, UPS, Fed Ex and textile friends of people who live there like we do. Actually it is kind of empowering. You can tell that sometimes it is a little mind bending for them but they clue in that it is normal for you and they respect that. Afterall, they are on my turf.

I think every nudist should experience this. It helps your confidence level in your nudity and body acceptance... and their's too.

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jimshedd112

Posted: Jun 21, 2012

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SunBunny, what you describe is what I'd like to see as an everyday occurence throughout society - people choosing to go about clothed or not with everyone respecting each other and their rights to go clothed or nude as they choose.

The only time I've had such an experience was at the NCH pool party at the Nude Hotel on June 1. The staff (chef, bartenders, porter) were fully clothed while the attendees dined, danced, lounged, etc. in full or partial nudity as they wished.

Jim

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FireProf

Posted: Jun 24, 2012

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What SB has described ... is what I hope to someday live. We visit our club often and take walks a couple times each visit. I'm surprised that my wife is actually the one that wants to go see what is up for sale. LOL

Anyway ... we see outside vendors, contractors, delivery people thoughout the community working and the residents just going about their daily lives without a care in the world.

I posted this story once before but remember a woman coming to the pool and talking to a few friends then she left. She then came back but was clothed. She told her friends she'd be right back and get in the pool with them. They asked her ... "what the hell are you doin' wearing clothes?" She said that the workers at her house weren't getting any work done while she was painting the outside in the nude and so she decided to put clothes on to finish ... so they'd get to work.

I'd love to have outsiders come into "our" nudist environment and interact with them just as everyone else does outside the nudist community. It's an empowering feeling being nude with clothed people, just like SB said. When I did have occasion to do that ... it made me feel amazing that I was so comfortable being naked amongst clothed people and it didn't bother me a bit.

I'd just like to live that way in a nudist community.

:)

Detach

Posted: Jun 25, 2012

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We've had to interact with clothed individuals this weekend at Glen Eden. There was a wild fire on the other side of the hill from the resort and there were cops and firefighters coming in and out of the resort. Some of us were talking with them and taking pictures of the helicoptors dropping water, but it was interesting watching what some nudists do to cover up. A select few were okay running around nude, but most either got completely clothed or wore a top or bottom.

The interactions were dramatic, with the police controlling the crowds and the firefighters trying to get heavy equipment through the premises; but there was still a sense of shame among the nudist community at Glen Eden.

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cnbaresall

Posted: Jun 25, 2012

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My wife and I are living with with my wifes mother to take care of her and keep her out of a nursing home. I am always nude or may wear a t-shirt depending how cool the house is and my mother-in-law doesn't mind nor do I. Also 3 of my sister-in-laws and 2 of my brother-in -laws have been over on vacations and I have asked them if it bothers them if I am nude and they have said it doesn't so we all sit and visit or play games or just sit around and watch tv. I am the only one who is not dressed and no one seems to be bothered. We even have Aspire nurses come over to visit mother and they are not bothered by my nudity. I can be in the room with mother and they will talk with me as if I am dressed

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jimshedd112

Posted: Jun 25, 2012

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Wow, detatch, perhaps most nudists really aren't as comfortable with nudity as one would think. Strange that within a nudist resort they'd rush to cover up due to the presence of uniformed authority figures.

Cnbaresall, it seems you have ideal living conditions. Congratulations. It's good to read you are a REAL nudist who has no problem interacting with others who are clothed, nor they with you.

Jim

J.P.

Posted: Jun 26, 2012

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Like so many situations in life, the more you experience it, the more normal it becomes.
SunBunny, you are so right in that every nudist should experience this.
I was very nervous the first time I went nude hiking without any way to cover up and knew there was a high probability that I would encounter clothed hikers on the trail. Sure enough in the first five minuets there was a hiker coming up the trail fully clothed. We actually stopped and spoke to each other before continuing our separate ways. It was such a positive experience that I have never worn clothes while hiking since then. Now I should point out that the area I was hiking to was Deep Creek Hot Springs, a popular clothing optional area. However the trail to and from the springs is rarely used nude.
Since then I have lost count of the number of times I have either been the only one nude or part of a small group among the clothed masses.
The most recent occasion of course was just over a week ago when I rode nude as part of the Los Angeles World Naked Bike Ride. Because of my past experiences I did not feel in the least self conscious about being nude in a very public setting.
I would encourage everyone who is an absolute nudist that if the occasion comes up where you have an opportunity to be nude, even if no one else is, do not hesitate to do it. You will only regret it later if you don't do it.

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Bauhausnude

Posted: Jul 19, 2012

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Naked Man Who Protested TSA Found Not Guilty Of Public Indecency
By KGW
July 19, 2012, 3:42 pm
NBCNews.com

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A man arrested after he stripped naked at Portland International Airport (PDX) was found not guilty of public indecency at a trial Wednesday.

John Brennan, a frequent-flying businessman from Portland, set off an explosives wand in April and stripped naked to show Transportation Security Administration screeners he was not carrying a bomb.

At Wednesday's trial, TSA officer Steven Vangordon testified that "he started taking clothes off quickly, I mean he whipped them off pretty fast."

Brennan took the stand early in the afternoon, saying he believed he had the right to be naked.

"I know the irony of taking off my clothes to protect my privacy," Brennan said. "They're getting close to seeing us naked, so I thought I'd up the ante," he testified.

Brennan said removing all his clothes was not premeditated. The frequent traveler who had heard of many TSA issues while on prior business travels was just fed up as he set off the detector at PDX.

"The machine went off, and I asked what it was and he said 'nitrates' which I know from Oklahoma City is one of the explosive ingredients," Brennan told KGW in an earlier interview, "and I was not interested in being hassled so I took off my clothes to show them I was not carrying any explosives."

TSA spokeswoman Sari Koshetz told KGW, "TSA partners with the traveling public to screen all passengers safely and efficiently. When a passenger chooses to be purposefully disruptive, we notify law enforcement. "

A Port of Portland Police report said Brennan was asked several times to put his clothes back on. Two screening lanes were closed for a short time until Brennan was wrapped in a towel and arrested.

A judge found Brennan not guilty of public indecency on the grounds that he stripped naked as a form of protest, which is protected speech.

But things aren’t over for Brennan yet. The TSA is also investigating to see if he possibly interfered with the screening process. If they find him guilty, he could be forced to pay an $11,000 fine and be put on the no-fly list.

KGW Reporter Abbey Gibb contributed to this report.


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http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/19/12832753-naked-man-who-protested-tsa-found-not-guilty-of-public-indecency?lite

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FireProf

Posted: Jul 19, 2012

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What the lot of us should do ... and I know I will do this, is to write TSA a letter in protest of them spending money to prosecute this man any further just because they lost this case.

It is so typical of an agency to look for other ways to try and win an argument when they've been handed a loss to their case and credibility.

;)

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jimshedd112

Posted: Jul 19, 2012

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Here, here FireProf. I'll also join you in writing a letter. I commend the court for decidining in his favor. Chances are he's a nudist (great) and so t was easy for him to take off his clothes. But, for whatever reason, I applaud him.

My daughter has talked about removing her top so she was dressed only in her bra and pants once when challenged at the Reno Airport. It didn't result in her arrest but she made her point.

Jim

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fiesco

Posted: Jul 19, 2012

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AANR should become involved in this as a interested party.

Nudony

Posted: Jul 22, 2012

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I actually had another unexpected clothed/nude situation yesterday. Again, there was some sort of textile event going on the Mazomanie yesterday. Multiple canoes going by - about 15-20 of them. When I arrived at the beach, 4 of these canoes had pulled up on the nudist beach, and there were about 8 or so women - ranging from the 20's to the 50's - hanging around. My first surprise upon entering the beach was being greeted by one of these women who was walking in the opposite direction - which threw me off. I then picked my spot and grumbled a little to myself as I sat down and disrobed.

But then I noticed these women were being really courteous to everyone - looking everyone in the eye when talking and being friendly; and my defenses started to go down gradually. When I saw three of these women walking up to the volley-ball area and asking a couple of nudists to join them for a game of volley-ball, I realized I was then totally cool with them being there. Yes they were wearing swimsuits and/or tank tops - and it would have been nice if they'd gone nude like the rest of us; but somehow the fact that they didn't was ok by me.

I then realized that my discomfort being nude around textiles was based on the situation, the people and their intent. These ladies (and I'd like to add their gender had nothing to do with it) were really going out their way to be friendly, non-obtrusive and respectful. Very few of my nude/clothed interactions in the past have had all three of these positives factors.

So I learned yesterday that I could be comfortable nude around textiles. Given certain factors

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 22, 2012

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I think it is very common to have this type knee-jerk response when first encountering a situation like that. It was these type of situations that really helped put me at ease and comfort with being totally nude in front of anyone anywhere.
Self concious? I have not felt any problems with clothes or the lack thereof.
The first real encounter was at the Presideo of San Francisco. I am in the men's room standing at the urinal using it for its intended purpose when a young woman walks in, realizes she is in the wrong room, and scurries out. Did not disturb me in the least.
Second encounter was at the Paramount theatre in Oakland. I was just finishing up my business in the men's room when a toilet was flushed. Joining me at the sink was a young woman who just said hi, washed her hands, and left. So what, no big deal, the ladies's room had a line over 100 feet long.
The most recent encounter was at a nude resort. A mixed group of fully clothed and fully nude people and I was part of both groups over the course of checking in and joining the fun. No problem in either mode.

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Sunluvr60

Posted: Jul 23, 2012

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It been just over a year since I took my g/f to her first nudist club, which was Cypress Cove. We have since gone a few times and she's gotten pretty comfortable with it. When we went to the have dinner we walked in and we were the only nude people in the place. Granted most were only partially dressed, but none the less, it was very unsettling for her to be totally nude and walk in and everyone, especially the other women were wearing coverups, some were fully clothed. Since then whenever we have dinner there she will wear a coverup, but I'll still go nude, it's why we go to nudist clubs, right?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 24, 2012

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Recently we had the Critical Mass (the NW equilvalent of Burning Man) event held on our LARC club grounds in WA. They had 1,000 participants this year by tickets sold. In the past (held 3 times before), there has been kind of a dividing line between the CM participants and us nudists who are there. They called us the naked people. This year I noticed a difference. We were not the naked people, just nice people who were accepting them into our little world without judgement. They are not nudists as a whole. However, it was a live and let live atmosphere this year. Everybody was just doing and interacting as people, clothed, nude, semi-nude, openly changing attire (they do alot of dress up stuff) whether they were nudist or not. Mothers were letting their young children walk around and play nude without any concern. Nudity was not a big deal or focal point this year. Everyone was just accepted as people, it was cool and different.
Some of our club members decided to have an impromptu Nude Walk Parade and many of the Burners joined in, some nude with others for the first time. It was a good experience for them and us nudists.

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FireProf

Posted: Jul 24, 2012

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Sounds like a blast SB! Reminds me of the early 70's in Golden Gate Park ... too bad I had a military hair cut back then and stuck out like a sore thumb! LMAO

;)

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jimshedd112

Posted: Jul 25, 2012

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It does sound like this year's get together turned into a real point of acceptance, SB.

Jim

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 29, 2012

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had another experience with this yesterday. I attended the "Rock'n the Park" outdoor music festival at LARC (a WA Clothing-Optional club) and there were people completely dressed, topless women, and folks totally nude all side by side... enjoying the music and having a good time. It can a happen if we allow it to.

Willie_D.

Posted: Jul 29, 2012

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Most places where I've encountered the clothed while I was fully nude has been at clothing-optional locations, so I've rarely felt uncomfortable around those folks. They knew going there they might encounter nude people. Similarly, I knew going there I might encounter the clothes-minded. I will say that I do tend to migrate to towards the other nude people and tend to avoid starting conversations with the clothed. I will wave and say hello because I want them to understand nudism is about being friendly and perhaps make them feel comfortable enough to try nudity for themselves, but unless they want to chat I usually leave it at a greeting and let them do their thing.

I'm one of those who has the mindset "If others are OK with my nudity then I'm OK with their clothing." However I do feel strange sometimes if I am at a C/O place and am the only nude person there. Similarly when I go to a C/O place and find no other naked people I am less prone to be nude. This latter has happened more often than the former.

On some occasions, my nudity has encouraged textiles to shed their garb and be free as I was. It didn't just all of a sudden happen, but by speaking with them about nudism, music, pop culture, or whatever they relaxed and found they could enjoy nudity as well. Of course this doesn't happen all the time. Many textiles will ignore me and move on, but if they want to talk I'm usually more than happy to chat.


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jimshedd112

Posted: Jul 29, 2012

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Reading the latest posts just reminded me my first nude social event was actually clothing optional an I remember checking first to ensure others were indeed nude before I dropped my clothes (enjoying every minute). Others who remained fuly clothed did attend as if checking out this nudist thing to see if it was right for them. Some remained partially clothed, covering their lower bodies while lounging about topless. It was a very positive experience and hooked me on my desire to be naked with others who also enjoy living clothes-free when possible.

Jim
The saying in art is that there is no light without dark. In nudism there is no nude without clothes. As long as all of the textiles accept nudism (some do without participating) I feel 'more nude' when half of everyone is clothed. In my experience no one made an issue of it either way. As one of the nude ones I used to make the mistake of trying to convince textiles to take off their clothes in mixed situations. I now know that approach is a mistake and can alienate people to the point where they don't want to hang out with nudists anymore. When that occurs they don't show up and the efforts to get them to participate are self defeating. They need to come to the realization on their own and can't do that if they aren't there.

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jimshedd112

Posted: Jul 30, 2012

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You make a great point, Rollercoaster. As long as they're willing to accpt my nakedness without protest I'm okay with them remaing clothed or semi-clothed.

Jim

cactusjack

Posted: Jul 30, 2012

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The only real nude clothed interaction I had was when I posed for some art classes. I am shy so it was very difficult at first to get over the fact I was the only one nude and the center of attention. I soon lost my fright and enjoyed the time.

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Bauhausnude

Posted: Jul 31, 2012

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How about when being rescued from a cliff in the nude? Copy the address to view the slide show.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/elsentinel/kswb-photos-cliff-rescue-warning-nudity-20110322,0,6346692.photogallery?obref=obnetwork

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 1, 2012

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Isn't this really about co-existing without judgement or fear... by anyone. To me that is the epitome of living naturally.

I agree that "preaching" nudity is not a good thing. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Everyone needs to decide for themselves. That way it is solely an inner decision and true acceptance that creates the mindset tht clothing is not neccessary for living.

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FireProf

Posted: Aug 1, 2012

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One event I completely forgot to mention was an annual car show that takes place at our club. It's put together by a car club and our club provides the place for two reasons ... give the car club another venue to show their stuff AND ... nudists and clothed people interaction.

We've participated in the last three year's car shows. The first was just way too cold to be naked but there were a few brave souls. The last two were more than warm enough to be naked and I was naked amongst the dozens of textile car show participants and visitors.

Last year, I won a plaque for the best muscle car and I walked up to the stage and received my plaque naked. My picture was taken and I signed a release so they could post it on the website. I actually got applause from several of the textiles for having the guts to go up there naked and get my plaque cuz a few others slipped on something to go up and get theirs.

This year's car show found many, many more nudists mingling with textiles. I think this car club has gotten over it's "fear factor" of seeing naked people and they do much more wondering, stopping and talking and the nudists and textiles intertwine with one another around and on the dance floor while listening and dancing to the live band.

It's a great event to have this nude/clothed interaction and it seems to work out really well. We sat next to three textile males at this year's car show. We talked about our cars and they couldn't get over the fact that I was naked and talking to them. They did, however, kid with my wife and wanted to know why she wasn't naked. She told them ... "I'm not here for your enjoyment or on display ... you wanna see me naked? Join the club or get naked right now and then I'll take off my dress and be more comfortable then I am wearing it."

They wouldn't do it but ... they got a better sense of what "it's" about and it's not sexual for us but about who we are. To add insult to their already injured egos ... our youngest daughter showed up, sat with us, she talked with these guys as well and schooled them again on naturism and what it means to her and why women feel the way they do around guys who think as they did. More "humble pie" to be eaten and at the end of the day ... these guys "got it" just a little bit more.

;)

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fiesco

Posted: Aug 1, 2012

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FireProf, The G.E. car show was phenomenal. I missed meeting you because I wasn't sure what muscle car was yours. You're tight, there was a good mixture of nudes (me) and textiles. Some of the participants told me that they were nudists and spend some time at G.E., but were dressed for the show. Correct me but I think maybe 30-40% of the viewers were nude. Some of the women had pareos around the waist, but were unclad above. Those of you who have never attended the G.E. car show should plan for it next year. It had some magnificent cars.

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FireProf

Posted: Aug 1, 2012

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This last year's show was the best interaction between nudes and clothed people that we've seen of the 4 years we've attended, 3 of them with a car in the show.

What I've seen in the last three years is the more accepting attitudes of the female textiles from the car club. Those coming in from the outside to view the car show kinda have an idea of what they may encounter and keep an open mind. It was the closed minded female car show participants that had issues with attending, at first, but it's grown on them to the point they are not as immature as they were in the past but still aren't at the point where they are taking the tour!

We'll be there for sure next year!

;)

NakedHikerNW

Posted: Aug 14, 2012

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My experiences with this all come from my wilderness hiking. I love hiking naked and most often take regularly and sometimes heavily traveled trails, so crossing paths with clothed hikers is something I have done many times. To the point now where I don't really give it much thought.

On my last two major day hikes I passed upwards of 30 other clothed hikers each time, and it was just no big deal at all. Ages from young children with a parent or two, to well seasoned citizens.

I have found that most people who are outdoor types, especially those into hiking and camping, are very open-minded, down-to-Earth folks with a healthy respect for not just nature, but others who are out there enjoying the experience just like they are, even if doing so while naked.

I don't find that anyone is really shocked by crossing paths with me. Sometimes maybe a bit surprised, because you don't see a lot of naked hikers in the U.S., but definitely not offended or anything. Most of them simply smile and say hello right back to me as I pass.

Many of those who I passed on my last hike were seniors hiking in groups of 2 to 10 or so. I've found that seniors are very accepting, and I guess it doesn't surprise me since they've been around the block many times and nothing shocks them by this point in their lives. If anything, they seem to get a kick out of passing me on the trail, especially the ladies.

On the last hike of mine, a came across a group of about a dozen seniors (men and women) on the trail, and they all just really lit up when I appeared. Smiles, hellos, laughs. Very chatty with me over the fact that I was hiking naked. One lady in particular seem really fun, making comments about me waiting while she grabbed her camera, then as I headed on down the trail, "wait, let me see more!", with a giggle. It was really pretty fun.

Every once in a while, I do pass clothed male hikers who seem uncomfortable with seeing another naked guy. They will often turn their head and never make eye contact, trying hard to pretend that they aren't seeing anything. This is, from what I've seen, typical American male homophobic behavior, so I don't give it much thought. I just think to myself, too bad to be hung up on such things as seeing another naked guy.

More than once I have passed a uniformed Forest Service person out patrolling trails. Never so much as a mention or a "look" that I was naked. It just wasn't an issue at all. I even stopped and talked with one of them, a man, for about five minutes once. Just no big deal.

I would say that crossing paths with clothed people, while naked, really has more to do with the "context" of the location and situation. Out hiking, or skinny dipping at a river or lake or beach, isn't going to bring anyone any grief in most cases. People just aren't shocked to see others recreating in the nude in such places. If anything, it seems to fit right in and I think that most clothed folks are quietly thinking to themselves "how cool, I wish I had the guts to do that!"

On the other hand, walking down a city sidewalk naked is probably going to get you arrested in short order. It's all in the context of the situation.

Well, that's just speaking for myself, based on my own personal experiences and opinions.

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txbiker

Posted: Aug 14, 2012

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I do get a fair amount of clothed/nude interaction here. Most of my visitors, friends and relatives, know I am a nudist and live nude. My non nudist friends simply show up and participate in whatever we are doing (BBQ/ bonfire/ whatever) and seem to not notice. On an interesting note: when my GF is here (and naked) some of the non-nudist females show signs of discomfort. The few times this has happened, she just invited the other girl to join her in the conversation pool, and all was well after that. I think it boils down to comfort levels and SB's philosophy of "Be it, Live it, and Share it.
I've had the Arborist show up to trim trees without calling ahead, and he merely commented I had no clothes on and went about his work.
My next door neighbor (a non-nudist) has come over to discuss City Council issues while I've been working in the yard or sunning. He has never said word one about my nakedness as we sat and talked. I never made a move to cover up, and he just accepted that.
I was traveling across the country (nude) and was asked by Inspectors at the California Border to open my trailer. I got out, wrapped my kilt, and complied. The inspection finished, I unwrapped, got back in the truck and went on, nothing said on either side.
I think it is OUR comfort zone and reactions that precipitate a positive event when confronted with a clothed/nude interface.

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MarcNude

Posted: Aug 24, 2012

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I generally am naked at home 24x7. This year, we had the visit for a week a teenager cousin of my kids. On the first day, I asked him if he was OK if I stay naked all day. He answered that he was fine and that his father was often naked at home. The kids were clothed all day while I was naked. In the end, all went well and he felt OK. It all relates to attitude. Nudism as a lifestyle is about being who you are truly and being naked with clothed people is fine as long as others accept you nudity. Of course, if it would not have been the case, I would probably have covered myself to respect our guest, and would have entered a discussion on why he was not at ease. In most cases, I have discovered that clothed people are OK with others nudity and do not mind. Sometimes it requires some discussions and balance, but others than cultural or religious deep issues, interaction with clothed people seems OK.

chazzyok

Posted: Sep 9, 2012

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My wife and I are often nude in public at the biker parties and it is accepted completely. It doesn't bother either one of us. The only time my wife gets bothered is when a group of guys take pictures without asking if ok first.

Cheri

Posted: Sep 9, 2012

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Since we live in the middle of nowhere, people don't usually just drop in. It does happen, but those incidents are usually our nudist friends.

When inviting non-nudist friends over, I wear at least a pareo or one of my t-shirt dresses as I like to be welcoming to my friends.

The last single lady who visited...we were sitting on chairs on our lawn, and I asked her if she minded if I took off the t-shirt. She said go ahead. She has since moved to NY, and we lost touch.

When we meet a prospective member for my club, I will wear something as well as I want prospective members to relax and get to know them.

I have no problem with others doing what feels right to them. I do know that I have to be the squeakiest (sp? new word?) clean I can be since I speak to our state legislature committees from time to time letting them know what nudism is truly about. This next year is going to be interesting as we will have some new blood.

Nuderunnr

Posted: Sep 13, 2012

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As I have enjoyed social nudism for less than a year I really haven't had many nude/clothed interactions besides getting caught by the mail lady; whistled as she walked by.
Let me present the flip side of this discussion....
I have worked as a delivery driver for a couple of local pizza places that happen to deliver to my local club. Well my first time delivering to the "nudies" was quite interesting. As I was waiting for the person who ordered to come the door of the clubhouse I was chatting with one of the members; making eye contact and being personable. What should happen next? One of the ladies sitting at a table was apparently feeling a little honery and decided to yell, "Oh my God!!! We're all naked!!" Nary missing a beat I looked her straight in the eye and replied, "yeah..... So.....what?"
Needless to say.... She was the one whose jaw dropped and was shocked. Kinda felt nice to turn tables back around. I know she wasn't trying to offend but I couldn't resist. I've learned who it was since I have started to frequent this club and this lady just has a little spirit to her. I guess being on 'both sides of the fence' gives me a unique perspective. I warn new drivers what they're likely to see when they go to a certain address on our map. Not so they get excited or anything but so that they treat the patrons of this club with respect. By the way, I've found that nudists tend to be pretty good tippers for some reason. Maybe it's the lack of pockets???

Dogman

Posted: Oct 18, 2012

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I'm always comfortable while nude. When I first met my closest friend she felt a little awkward talking to me while I was naked but, over time, she realized it was part of who I am and is now totally ok with it. I try to get to Gunnison Beach once every summer and I've had quite a few of the "textiles" come up to me and ask about why I do this and isn't it embarrassing. I've never encountered a confrontational person but they are always just curious. There's even been a few who crossed over to "our side", some just getting partially nude and some totally. All of them later told me how glad they were to have taken a chance in talking to me. As long as people don't try to verbally attack me or degrade me I'd be perfectly ok being in a room full of clothed people. I'd be the only one really comfortable, lol.

Bret

Posted: Oct 18, 2012

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I agree with SUNBUNNY. A group of nudes around a textile or 2 is no big deal WE win as being the nude ones. I have a group of friends from Illinois that come visit my house once a yr. A nudist married couple and there NOW 12 yr old boy all 3 go nude when here. But they bring a (female) friend of there's who is NOT a nudist and she stays clothed EVERY TIME they visit and I think to my self boy she must feel out of place being CLOTHED around us NUDISTS. The situation has also been reversed and I have been at there house UP NORTH and its the same thing....There is a PIC of the situation I am describing its in my profile. But when its all said and done I am COMFORTABLE in that situation.

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Oldfrog

Posted: Oct 18, 2012

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The first time this happened to me I was in a group that included 2 unclothed men, 1 clothed man, and 2 clothed women (one of whom had previously been unclothed but had put on a pareo). I was surprised to find that it didn't bother me in the least. That was the moment that I realized that I was truly a naturist.
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