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We are nudists. We have all seen penes. Yet for the vast majority of textilists, the male genitalia remains an object of horror, humour, mystery and ridicule. Read any ’blog regarding nudism and there will always be a thread or two (hundred) addressing queries about erections or size. Why? Obviously these enquiries come from people either new or naïve to social nudity.
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| Imagine what this guy went though! "A New York man known for his unusually large penis was patted down by airport security at San Francisco International last week after they questioned him about the bulge in his pants, he said. Jonah Falcon, 41, who has been featured in several documentaries about the world’s biggest penises, was returning from a trip in San Francisco on July 9 when he was stopped at security by TSA agents who spotted something out of the ordinary hanging to the left in his pants, he said. “They wanted to know if I had something in my pockets, and when I said no, they asked if I had some sort of growth,” he said. When he replied that it was just his penis, they “checked the area around it” but didn’t frisk him too severely, he said. They also wiped his hands to check for explosive powder. Falcon said the delay was mostly amusing to him and only delayed him for about 5 minutes. He said it was the first time his penis had caused a security concern. “I”ve gone through the (airport scanner) before, and I wasn’t worried,” he said. “What was the worst that was going to happen — I was going to have to whip it out for them? I’m used to that. Sometimes when people ask me about it, if I’m feeling up to it, I’ll just show them.” Falcon’s penis has been reported as 9.5 inches when flaccid and 13.5 inches when erect, according to Rolling Stone. He has been featured in documentaries on HBO and overseas and has appeared on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. He works as a video game journalist and as an actor with small roles in movies and television shows, according to his Internet Movie Database profile. A spokesman for the TSA at SFO was not immediately available for comment. Falcon said the agents were “professional” about the security check. “It was probably harder on them than it was on me,” Falcon said." http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2012/07/17/man-with-worlds-biggest-penis-stopped-at-sfo-security/ | |||
| Rabbit, I don't think this topic is about Big Dick Story swapping. In fact stories like you posted may well be the type of thing that instills greater focus and promotion of the small penis envy syndrom that hinders many men from participating in social nudity. Let's not get into that. Andy, not sure of the intent of your topic but I think it is to illuminate the realization of insecurities of body image with males as compared to only females. Please correct me if I am wrong. If that is the case, yes I can see where males, while not all that concerned with having a perfect 6-pack (not in the ice chest either) can fall victim to the small penis envy syndrom in the social nudity arena. I am not sure how men can get beyound that. Maybe some of you fellas can offer some suggestions. | |||
| Well SB, I don't know about everyone else who worries about size when at a nudist resort but just actually going to one taught me that there is no need to be concerned about it. There doesn't seem to be a competition going on, and I also learned that I was more normal in that particular area than I previously thought. Many times people make a problem out of something that isn't a problem at all. | |||
| I don't understand penis size envy. You got what you got be happy. Get naked and have fun. | |||
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| Sunbunny, there was nothing about what I posted concerning "big dick story swapping." One poor guy was singled out for extra security because of his appendage. If a woman was singled out because of breast size, there would be an uproar about it. I think you pretty much proved the OP's post thank you very much. | |||
| As nudists we tend to view all parts of the human anatomy as the same. A penis is no different a part than a nose or an ear. However, for textiles throughout civilization's history a penis was an object of agression. Scottsmen used to lift their kilts before going into battle, a penis is the weapon of sexual assault and flashing is considered an attack. To us a penis is a part like any other part, but many societies are programmed to react negatively to it. Also, homophobia has run rampant in recent times. I'm not sure if this is due to an insecurity with ones own sexuality, or a fear of being branded and outcast. In any case, as textiles see the light and transition into nudism they must free themselves from fear of the penis. Even we who call ourselves nudists must be certain we are free of this stigma. As we have pointed out in a recent post on paradoxes this and related issues still linger with some nudists. | |||
| I recently came across this illustration. I think it nails the outside/textile perception and emotional response to male vs female nudity. I also think it's genetically programmed. Penis=aggression and vagina=life/nurturing. As nudists we learn to not pay so much attention to these emotional triggers.
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| Quite true. The look on the faces of the textiles tell it all. | |||
| I understand why mainstream society is so uptight with the sight of a penis, a vagina and female nipples ... it's been discussed at length so no need to rehash but ... what I find harder to understand is nudists that find it uncomfortable saying, using or typing the words ... penis, vagina, anus, rectum, anal area, pubic area, pubic hair, areola ... I've seen and heard, junk, johnson, tool and too many others to name a penis, Vah jay jay, womanly parts, the hair "down there", private parts, business district ... what the hell is up with some of these kiddy names we see people using on naturist sites? There is a stigma, even within the naturist community with relation to the penis and what it suppose to look like. We have people within this lifestyle that spout off their personal opinions and degrade others because their penis has not been circumsized. We have nudists stating completely unfounded accusations that a circumsized penis is cleaner than an uncircumsized penis ... where do these idiots come from ... under a rock? A penis isn't suppose to look like anything other than a penis ... no matter what size, no matter if it's circumsized or not, no matter if it's shaved or hairy, no matter what! It's strange that there aren't any topics on vaginas. I've seen many and they are different in many ways ... but these same idiots don't critique vaginas! Guys are just too damn obsessed with their dicks and when these topics of cut or uncut, clean or unclean, what women like better, which one looks better ... it's always obvious that guys are thinking with their dicks and not their brains! And ... this is a BIG reason why many women refuse to engage in conversation on naturist website message boards. ;) | |||
| FireProf, are you aware you used the word dick versus penis in your rant when you said, "Guys are just too damned obsessed with their dicks...." after having just criticized others for the use of juvenile language to describe body parts, ie, penis and vagina? By the way, I do agree with you. Also, I tend to use the word dick when referring to a penis. Jim | |||
| Why does anyone care about what people call various body parts? It's ridiculous. It doesn't matter what you call it! I'm a better nudist than you cause I can say penis! How petty. Do you also say urinate and defecate too? Is it ok to say butt, or must we say buttocks? | |||
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| Well said Dave88. I use all sorts of names for all kinds of things just because it is entertaining to do so. It's not done to talk around something I don't want to deal with. It's just fun to make up names for stuff. | |||
| LOL! I think I understand where FP is coming from. I was once reading a topic about body parts or postures - I forgot. And then I came in and used the word labia. [chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp...} The thread died. It was as if no one wanted to respond to a post that had the "L" word in it. "Oh God no...not the labia!!!" LOL!!! The truth is, a lot of people talk about body-acceptance and accepting all body parts, but are still very much conditionned to respond emotionally - and sometimes even unconsciously - to certain genital references. I am not "the better person" when it comes to body-acceptance; but I rarely ever consider my penis or others' when nude. The same goes with the vagina and/or labia. I just accept what I see as a manifestation of nudity. | |||
| Why does anyone care about what people call various body parts? It's ridiculous. It doesn't matter what you call it! I'm a better nudist than you cause I can say penis! How petty. Do you also say urinate and defecate too? Is it ok to say butt, or must we say buttocks? You missed the context and that it was my opinion but ... given your inability to do so ... you go ahead and call your pee pee anything you want! LOL | |||
| Dave...why does Nudony get it and you don't??? Maybe he's a "better" nudist! LOL ;) | |||
| I am sitting on the train, alone in a crowd, looking around at the other passengers, wondering how this conversation would be going if the subject was a nose instead. Everyone has one, they come in all different sizes and shapes, and no one thinks twice about seeing one. What makes the penis so special? Is it because only half of the population has one? Social conditioning? Is it a sex issue? Are people afraid of something? The labia? Well, the other half of the population has one and that apparently makes it more fearsom. Has the USA become a land of prudes? | |||
| I guess I'm not as intelligent as the fire. | |||
| This all seems to be a large urinating competition over nothing. | |||
| ...and what did say in my earlier post... huh huh, I knew it. I think what Andy was getting at is that it is not about who has the bigger spear as much as everyone in tribe has a spear, so what. With our nude bodies exposed we have the unique ability to understand the concept, yet many of you men still gravitate to the locker room porno mentality. The question is why... it's only a penis, get over it Tarzans. I do think that this type of issue is more prevalent with the clubbing, home or wanna-be nudist rather than the naturist nudist. In nature sexuality is part of life, for the others mentioned it is a focus of life. Jane with a P | |||
| I agree SB, to me it doesn't matter at all, as I said, when I go to a club it is NOT about comparing my penis with any others, it is only about ME being nude, relaxed, and comfortable. As far as others I really couldn't care less, we're all naked, men and women so let's relax and have some fun. | |||
| Wow, home nudists get no respect! | |||
| Dave88, is that the best you can do? BooHoo, so sorry. You earn respect, you don't just get it. The majority of topics and posts in this group are for and about Absolute Naturists... not wannabes or thinkstheyares. Intelligent and well thought out comments are always appreciated, and certianly by me. Those others... well what can I say. | |||
| Movng on to a lighter note... The picture posted by Nudony back on July 25 on the differences in thinking between males and female led me to these two captions of my own: (Lead in with what was said but what I heard) *Male with a coffee cup -> Wow, fresh creme and sugar! *Female with coffee cup -> Does he really think I want a biscotti to nibble on with my coffee? Just my silly thinking, I know it is kind of off topic but worth maybe a little laugh to lighten the air. It is still about how we mentally process nudity. SB | |||
| I'm sorry that you treat the home nudist like a "red haired step child", perhaps it is because there isn't a standard definition of a home nudist. I didn't know that home and absolute nudists were mutually exclusive. | |||
| I'm sorry you don't get what this group is about. There is a group for "Home Nudists." Nudists that don't venture out of the home or backyard. Home Nudists that have never been to a beach, club or resort. Home Nudists that don't belong to a naturist organization or share any of the philosophies of naturists that live it, breath it, advocate it, educate about it and are activists for it ... it meaning nudism/naturism outside the computer and outside the confines of the house. That is what this group is about. It's not that we are saying we are better than you are, we just go about our "nudist" lives differently than you do and it becomes very irritating when someone that has little or NO experience in matters being discussed ... get into arguments with others that have the experience and know what they are talking about. There are various levels and kinds of nudists, we've all discussed that, even here on Absolute Naturists. Many times, these "spin off" groups became the groups they are because so many found that they had more to talk about with others that live the same type of nudist lifestyle and grew tired of those that either couldn't, wouldn't or hadn't experienced it at the same level. I think the group owner has been EXTREMELY liberal with who she's allowed to join this group, given the mantra and philosophy. She's even allowed many to stay when they've proven NOT to be Absolute Naturists but that would actually fit in much better in some of the other groups available. It's really not that tough to figure out. If we had a group here of Nudist Dog Lovers and I asked to join and then you found out I don't have a dog, don't have a use for a dog, don't think I'll ever get a dog, but I have a cat and since they are both animals and pets ... I should belong to your group of "DOG lovers." You have to be able to live it to some degree to get it and sometimes ... some still don't get it! NOW ... can we get back to talking about the penis! Cuz that's all guys wanna talk about anyway! LOL :D | |||
| I live at a naturist resort. Here, the topic of whether a person is shaved, or the size or shape of one's penis or vagina - are just not topics of discussion. Nor do we discuss ears or noses. No one here cares about such trivialities. A person's character and behavior are what matters. As to the TSA story, it seemed to be about the problem of having an abnormally large penis and the misunderstandings it can sometimes cause. I didn't read anything in the story about bragging. | |||
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| Earlier this year I visited the Ringling Museum in Sarasota Florida. The place is filled with nude statues of men and women, mostly men. Yet children walk around them and no one gets upset or offended. The parents and kids dont care. But if I were nude in the same place, just standing there, women would shriek, kids eyes would be covered, and the police would be called. That is insane. | |||
| Andy and Armadillo, I agree with you both, to a point. I say to a point because I think the same holds true in terms of naked vaginas and anuses as well. But, again, suggestive sex scenes and mayhem are condoned and considered appropriate. It also holds true of nude statuary for the most part. Jim |
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