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Absolute Naturists How does Positive Social Nudity Bring Harm?
| How does positive social nudity bring harm, or be percieved to bring harm to anyone? An AN member stated in another topic that as long as his social nudity does not bring harm it is ok. That brought me to wonder, how can the act of simple, positive social nudity bring any harm to anybody. If a nudist thinks he is potentially harming someone by practicing social nudity, is he viewing it as wrong himself -or- is he allowing the perceptions of non-nudists to determine right or wrong for him. Your thoughts please. | |
| I think some of us tend to live our lives according to the rules of others. I don't see any harm in going nude with others. Ignorance can't be bliss when it comes to this. Harm is done by the people who have never been in a social nude setting. I don't know what drives the ignorant to try and keep others from being free. I would like to see really well spoken people on tv and or radio talking about social nudity. Who really is a nudist/naturist. The Nudist Society did a poll some years ago. One section was who is involved. To some it may be surprising. | |
| Positive social nudity should not be 'harming' anyone. The behaviors of some persons that happen to be naked can influence the perceptions that pervade society, maintaining the belief that all nudists are irresponsible. A family, or couple, or even singles quietly sunning or playing volleyball at a nude venue helps the image we try to provide. THAT is social nudity. Naked persons indulging in behaviors that should be behind closed doors definitely harm social nudity. When asked "What do people do at nude places?" come up,I always tell them "The same things clothed people do." | |
| "Harm" is such a subjective word. What is "harm" actually mean and what does it mean to each and every person. harm 1: physical or mental damage: INJURY 2: Mischief, HURT In my opinion, and mine is one of millions and millions, I equate "harm" with the physical and mental aspect of the definition. When I'm nude do I physically assault those around me with my naked body? Are the mentally harmed that they are now on medication because they saw my naked body? Regarding the social aspect of nudity ... are there 100's of nudists going around slapping people with their boobs or penises? Does a person that visits a club, resort or other nudist venue have to be put on medication after the visit because it "harmed" them mentally? I think NOT in all cases and people use the word "harm" in place of words like being ... "uncomfortable", "embarrassed", "unsure", "fearful" ... it's like a catch phrase to get people's attention off of their inability to cope with life and their immaturity. Social nudity doesn't "harm" anyone. People aren't institutionalized because they saw a naked person talking to another naked person, or lots of naked people talking and being social with one another. Those that say that ... need to show me proof of the increase patient load at the local hospitals after all the Naked Bike Rides and data on the increase of mental meds being prescribed. :D | |
| It can't "harm" a person. Only their belief system. | |
| Social nudity, in and of itself, causes no physical nor mental harm to anyone, in my opinion. There are people who may feel emabarrassed oruncomfirtable when seeing nude bodies but they can never honestly say they were harmed by what they saw. And, honestly, their embarrassment or discomfort comes from witin. It is not caused by others. Jim | |
| How can it even harm a belief system? I can see where it may move someones cheese in that regard, but harm it... I'm perplexed on that. By the way, I used the word "harm" in the question because that is exactly what the member used in another post. It was not to debate the word. I noticed he has not posted his thoughts here yet...maybe we moved his cheese too! I hope so, it's a good thing. | |
| I didn't say it could harm "a" belief system. It can harm "their" belief system. A belief system one might hold within one's own self. | |
| I understood what you were saying regarding the "word" "harm." My post was not to debate the meaning but what it meant to other nudists. In my opinion, how can someone being nude "harm" me? I suffer no physical injury, I don't feel pain from the "hurt", and though some may think I'm nuts ... I'm not on any medication for it ... but I guess that doesn't mean I'm not nuts! haha In order to answer the question ... we need to know what "harm" is and how it relates to those non nudists that see nude people. ;) | |
| I think the entire concept of nudism being "harmful" to someone has its basis...in children. I'm sure most here remember Janet Jackson's "Nipplegate", or other instances where a breast or a butt made its appearance on prime time TV - usually for a fraction of a second. Perhaps more noteworthy than these sporadic "nude intrusions" were reactions to it. Legions of angry Moms calling the network, threatening to sue, sometimes suing, causing networks to have to apologize and endure heavy fines. But why the "malaise"? Because of this notion - arbitrary and delusional - that the sight of a naked bit of flesh will cause their child to be robbed of their innocence, if not suffer permanent emotional damage. This movement, this idea is the root cause of much of the anti-nudity legislation, the "NC-17'ing" of Hippie Hollow, the blurring of naked bits on TV. "Protect the children" is the motto; which unfortunately boxes in all nudity under a single label: "MAY BE HARMFUL TO CHILDREN." Of course, this "movement" is just people projecting their own "malaise" and delusions unto their children. But it does affect positive social nudity by restraining, confining it. Many of the cases of people calling the anti-nudity brigade on their nudity friendly neighbors - are in fact Moms or Dads trying to "protect" little Timmy from the emotional trauma of catching a glimpse of the neighbor's penis. When I started bringing my daughter to the nudist resort as a child, I was well aware that I was totally going against the current. When other parents were concerned about a breast of butt flashing across the TV screen, my daughter was free to exist, completely nude, in an environment where all the naked bits, from a wide cross-section of people where naturally uncovered. If society at large could accept that a child could exist that way and not suffer any irreparable psychological harm, it would be a huge step in the right direction. And as far as moving cheese, I think we've all grated on each other here at some point. And definitely some more than others. I just wish sometimes people didn't take it so personal... | |
| just an interesting article i saw this morning, showing that nudity does no harm. http://news.yahoo.com/nudes-check-nudes-austrian-museum-083032430.html | |
| Simple nudity does not produce harm, and most people do not think nudity is harmful even to children. However, most people think that most everyone else is offended by nudity. Causing offense might be considered causing harm by some people. See this article http://www.michigannudebeachadvocates.org/Articles.html#OK_to_be_Open for my extensive discussion of this. Copy and paste into your browser or view it here as a journal on my profile. |
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