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Pierced Nudists I don't have to explain myself to you.......
| OK...second post in this group. I read a post in another group, that pissed me off to the point that I quit NCH for awhile. The subject was on gential piercing and this person wrote..."please don't make me have to explain your piercing to my children". So many thoughts came to mind like, how do you explain breast cancer, how do you explain really heavy people, how do you explain trans-sexuals? If you're not up to the task as their parent, I'll talk to them, WITH you there to educate you too. Nudity is about body acceptance, it doesn't matter what's pierced, what's tattoo'd..it's the person. Talk to me if you have questions or a problem, but beware, I don't suffer stupidity lightly. I've seen it written that people with piercings," just want to draw attention to that area". Really? any more than a female's "store bought boobs"? Any more than people with "tramp stamps"? How about females with nipple piercings? Oh, the double standard goes into play? Hey, if you believe this garbage and want to check out my ,"stuff" don't be surprised when I ask you what the heck you're staring at. If you wish to discuss piercings and jewlery, etc...I'll be more than happy to sit down and talk to you about these things. I'll even explain my tattoo's if you want to learn about the Mayans and my Best Friend.... I'm 55 years old,retired cop, firefighter, EMT, and Navy. I've seen enough destruction,stupidity,death and the ugly things in my life...I don't need to explain myself to you,or your kids. | |
| I've had a piercing (PA) now for 4 years and I absolutely love it. But unfortunately, you do get the odd one or two people who cringe or say something inappropriate about it. Unfortunately, those people are just ignorant and don't understand the concept, and I don;t even bother to try and waste my time on people like that. However, I don't mind people coming up to me and asking me questions about my PA, and are genuinely curious about it. I have heard that some resorts do not allow genital piercings, because they think it detracts from what nudism is about. How can that be? It's not different to getting any other part of the body pierced, as far as I'm concerned! Furthermore, if that is how they run their argument, then they have truely do not accept all forms of nudity/body acceptance. I am comfortable with how I look, piercings or no piercings, and I think everyone should be the same. Too many people on this site I've come across are very insular, insecure, narrow-minded individuals who have some hang-ups that they need to deal with. Anyway, that is my rant for now. Cheers! | |
| Thanks for the rant! I agree with Smokey and you on your posts. The comment Smokey mentions is right up there with the person who said people with tattoos are "mutilated". No actually I am mutilated by the 15 surgeries I have had. I got the tattoos when I was younger and the scars bothered me. My tattoos were done by a special friend and have deep personal meaning as well as made me feel beautiful again. I also only talk to people who seem genuinely interested. To those whose judgement is evident, I simple tell them the tattoos would not make sense unless they knew me. As for my genital piercings, I have been asked to wear a towel around my waist at a couple of AANR clubs, lest someone be drawn to look there. I won't even comment on that nonsense. I am happy to tell those who ask, that I got the genital piercings when my ex asked me to pierce my nipples and I did not want to do that! My favorite is when people ask me if my tatts or piercings hurt. When I say that they sure did, people usually just stare at me. I guess that is what kind of sets us apart. I think some of the best things in life really hurt; spicy food, contact sports, deep tissue massage, childbirth without epidurals...you get the idea | |
I once stayed at a nude beach resort, Sorbonne Beach Resort, where there was an older European gentlemen who had a big issue with my nipple rings. The resort had no rules against it and none of the other guest seem to have any issues with me. He stayed out of my way the whole week, which was good with me. I always wondering what he would have said about my guiche ring. | |
| I just read a posting in another group that has my dander up now..."And when a nude man (regardless of sexuality) is sporting genital jewelry, sex is now the center/underlying principle." True, I got my peircings (P.A., Scrotum, and nipples) for more or less sexual purposes to be shared with my wife, but when I go to a nudist/naturist venue, sex is the furtherest thing from my mind. Piercings along with tatoos should be viewed as nothing more than decoration or art. People ar going to look at the next persons crotch or breasts no matter what, its human nature. It's when your "look" becomes a stare that there is a problem. I see males or females with piercings in a much different light than the man who wears a cock ring to promote his sexual prowess in public. I most likely made no sence at all, but it irritates me to see naturists discriminating against other naturists simply because of their choice of body art. | |
| I just read a posting in another group that has my dander up now..."And when a nude man (regardless of sexuality) is sporting genital jewelry, sex is now the center/underlying principle." True, I got my peircings (P.A., Scrotum, and nipples) for more or less sexual purposes to be shared with my wife, but when I go to a nudist/naturist venue, sex is the furtherest thing from my mind. Piercings along with tatoos should be viewed as nothing more than decoration or art. People ar going to look at the next persons crotch or breasts no matter what, its human nature. It's when your "look" becomes a stare that there is a problem. I see males or females with piercings in a much different light than the man who wears a cock ring to promote his sexual prowess in public. I most likely made no sence at all, but it irritates me to see naturists discriminating against other naturists simply because of their choice of body art. | |
| I have to add my two-cents to BareCocoaCouple's posting and agree 100 percent. I had all my piercings done for personal sexual reasons, but when I'm in a nude situation in public, i.e., a beach or resort, the sexuality of the piercings changes to art or decoration. It's similar to wear a necklace or rings on my finger. True, the piercings do draw attention to my genitals, but as BCB said, most of us cop a quick glance most of the time, with or without piercings drawing attention. I hope this makes sense. | |
| Bare and Carl, I also agree and hope a female's voice on this gets through to some of those folks. If it is about sex for some of us some of the time-SO WHAT? Sexuality is a part of Humanity. I did not see the posting Bare refers to but it seems odd that it pertained only to men. I suppose that person thinks women are asexual. I like the way Carl responded, that the context of things change situationally. It is a mature and realistic outlook.I have posted elsewhere that trying to separate these things completely has damaged our cause. I got mine because a partner asked me to. They are genital and were a visual for him. When I am nude and people glance at them it is fine with me, because I do believe most people look too. They are not cause for blatant staring,touching, rude comments or personal questions, and certainly not judgement. Again, it just comes down to manners, the same ones we expect or exhibit, clothed or not. | |
| Well put, Olivia. | |
| I am really glad to have Smokey as our new group leader given his contributions to the group thus far. I wanted to ask the group a question along the lines of this thread. The topic of piercings came up in a group chat not long ago. A person asked me flat out if my genital piercings were for my own sexual gratification. I stated that I would not answer. Do you think that kind of question is curiosity or rudeness? Why do people seem to think those of us who are pierced (and tattooed) are more open to personal questions? I mean you would not go around asking most people intimate questions. In this particular case, I believe the person was out of line because he has been someone who has been pretty aggressive about trying to get me to go off the site or to chat privately and get personal information. Do any of you ever answer these type of questions or basically tell people that we do not have to explain ourselves to them? | |
| Olivia, I agree he was out of line. As for answering this type of question, I don't feel it is any bodies business but mine and usually just tell them I belong to a cult or I have reasons I can't discuss. They usually don't know what to say after that. | |
| Another "agree" here! My tatts are my own expression of feelings and remembrances that I may or may not wish to discuss with a stranger. I don't discuss them with people I consider 'friends'. Piercings and tatts ARE personal, not advertisements! And I even consider questions about my Kilt to be personal. Wouldn't I be considered a "pervert" or just plain rude, if I asked a female what she was wearing under her skirt? The double standard falls right in here with that. It has nothing to do with 'sexual behavior' unless it is behind closed doors, and therefore none of anyone's business to judge me on my artwork! My $.02 | |
| If a person asks me about my piercings with the thought of interest and education, I'll explain the basics to them. However, once the question gets personal the discussion is over. There are certain questions that you just don't ask, age, weight and anything about a persons sex life. | |
| Thanks Mo, tex and , your opinions basically reflect my attitudes. (What smart guys.) I also gauge the amount of judgement I hear in someones voice in deciding much information to give them. I think txbiker and I are in a minority of tattooed people who do not like to share what they mean. I usually tell people that it is personal and they would note makes sense unless they really knew me anyway. I will not be so polite if they continue to demand an explanation. |
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