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Absolute Naturists Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty?
canyonhawk Posted: Apr 1, 2012	Jim, the language you are citing is from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. The Declaration is an interesting historical document but it is not, and never was, a law.
Outdoor Arizona Canyon State Naturists
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 28, 2012	Is anyone here a member, and if so, could you shed any light on the factional fighting that seems to be going on? I've been a member for two years, but rarely attend events because of my location and work schedule. But they are really nice people and I wonder what is it that they are fighting about?
Absolute Naturists Most Fun Nude Moment This Summer
canyonhawk Posted: Jul 14, 2011	I have a female friend that I go naked hiking with every now and then. We were hiking this spring in a pretty desolate area outside of Tucson. At one point, we heard an aircraft and saw a military helicopter approaching. They obviously saw us and quickly figured out that there was a naked woman, so they came in for a close-up. They hovered over us for a long time, being pretty blatant about it. At one point they flew away, then came back for more. We both thought it was hilarious. My only regret is that I didn't have the presence of mind to drop my pack and get out my camera. I could have had some nice shots of the helicopter hovering over my very attractive friend. I'm sure it was well-documented from the air. Haven't found the video on YouTube yet, but I bet it's there.
AZ Nudes Can you take the heat?
canyonhawk Posted: Jul 14, 2011	I love summer, especially monsoon season! Stopped running the AC three or four years ago. Love being able to hang out naked in the early morning and at night. And always in search of swimming holes, a few of which are hiking distance from my house.
Absolute Naturists When Did Nudist Clubs Die?
canyonhawk Posted: Jun 17, 2011	If we really believed in the desirability of "absolute naturism," we would be thrilled to live in a world in which such an anachronism as a "nudist club" would disappear. I'm not saying we're there (we're not even close.) I just wish we could get to a point where the "nudist clubs" could just vanish due to irrelevance. In other words, a world where "absolute naturism" was a viable choice.
Outdoor Arizona Kaiser Warm Springs - Burro Creek
canyonhawk Posted: Jun 11, 2011	I spent two nights at the Kaiser Warm Springs area, on Hwy 93 south of Wikieup. It was mid-week and I did not encounter anyone the entire time. I got naked upon arrival Tuesday evening and stayed that way until I left Thursday morning. Lots of hiking and swimming. The springs pool itself was not so attractive on a 100-degree day (it's warm, not hot), but there was ample water in Burro Creek for very nice swimming. I saw a group of seven wild horses and also a burro. Lots of droppings around. Does anyone have any experience in this area? I'm wondering what the clothing-optional situation is. The hot springs book say it is CO and Bill Pennington wrote a long piece on-line a few years ago about people being nude all around the area. I hiked everywhere nude and was expecting to meet people and not too concerned about it. The area obviously gets some pretty heavy use, so I'm wondering what to expect on a spring weekend or some other busy time.
Outdoor Arizona Established clothing-optional areas
canyonhawk Posted: Jun 4, 2011	What outdoor places in Arizona are at least somewhat established as clothing-optional? I'm referring to public areas, not clubs or commercial hot springs. I guess by established I mean you may encounter other nude people there. Here's where I have been: Verde Hot Springs Sycamore Creek Tanque Verde Arizona (Ringbolt) Hot Springs (sort of) Others?
Absolute Naturists Why Join a Nudist Club?
canyonhawk Posted: May 28, 2011	I almost hate to say it this way, but social nudism is a little like a religion. Sometimes you just want to be around people who "get it" and you don't have to explain anything.
Absolute Naturists Why Join a Nudist Club?
canyonhawk Posted: May 28, 2011	I look at it quite a bit differently, Andy. When I see those vintage nudist photos of people holding trophies, I cringe a little. Nudism to me isn't at all about judging the perfect body. It's about a basic human right to be in a natural state when we choose. An event like Bare-to-Breakers can, if done right, be an expression of that right. There is nothing wrong about nudity and very much that is right about it, so why do we think we need to hide behind privacy walls and hand out trophies to each other? I rather take a stroll down the street and have it not be an issue.
Outdoor Arizona Sycamore Creek
canyonhawk Posted: May 27, 2011	I checked out Sycamore Creek this week for the first time. It was well beyond my expectations - great hiking, great swiming holes. Got there at 11 am Wednesday and was naked until I left at 2 pm Thursday. Ran into two couples (MF and MM) while hiking, all nude (except the guy with the girl covered up in a panic and tried to throw a towel on her, which she rejected; very funny!). I caught glimpses of a few more people in the parking lot, but no one else camped and no one was there at all the second day.
Absolute Naturists Preferred Nudist Environments
canyonhawk Posted: May 21, 2011	Outdoors, with water and friends.
Absolute Naturists NAKED CONVERSATIONS WITH NUDE WOMEN
canyonhawk Posted: Apr 23, 2011	Very nice. Is this the entire film? Thanks for posting.
Absolute Naturists Best Nudist Beaches
canyonhawk Posted: Apr 5, 2011	I spent many a glorious day at Mazo Beach.
AZ Nudes Arizona naturist groups
canyonhawk Posted: Apr 3, 2011	Does anyone have any thoughts or insights about the differences between Canyon State Naturists, Arizona Wildflowers, and Buffateers?
Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 31, 2011	Wherever you want.
Absolute Naturists Nudist Bill of Rights - The point is?
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 31, 2011	Numbers game? The rights of all people to dress as they wish is a winner. The rights of certain people who qualify under someone's definition of "nudist" is a loser.
Absolute Naturists Nudist Bill of Rights - The point is?
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 31, 2011	It's totally stupid. Pointless. Amateurish. The most basic thing wrong with it is that it acts like there is something called a "nudist" that needs a recognition of rights. How about substituting "people" for "nudists?" We shouldn't be advocating special rights for nudists (whatever that even is), but simple human rights for all. Deciding whether and how to cover your own body seems like a human right to me.
Absolute Naturists Nudists Offended with Nudity... huh?
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 22, 2011	Nudity is natural. There is nothing inherently offensive about it. People should encounter nudity more often, not less often, then the shock value would diminish. We should be pushing the envelope, not enabling those who want to use phony offensiveness to suppress natural behavior.
Absolute Naturists Living Nude... Why?
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 20, 2011	Because I want to and it doesn't harm anyone.
Absolute Naturists A Quest for Nude Living
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 14, 2011	John, a birthday suit is a suit, at least if you can find the right attorney.
Absolute Naturists Most Fun Activites while Nude
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 10, 2011	At resorts, it has to be swimming or anything in the water. In the outdoors, for me it's hiking nude to a place where you can swim - pool or hot springs. And this may sound a little odd, but sometimes I get a little thrill realizing I am naked while doing something not associated with nudity. Such as walking into the office at the resort - sometimes there's this little voice that says "are you sure you can do that?" It's a nice feeling knowing that you can.
Absolute Naturists Nude Tolerant... Good or Not Good?
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 1, 2011	I personally am going to try to be clothes tolerant. I'm going to try really hard to suppress my sensibilities when people force their textiled bodies on me.
Absolute Naturists Crossing the line
canyonhawk Posted: Mar 1, 2011	Maybe if they saw some naked people every now and then, they wouldn't have those phony "sensibilities."
Absolute Naturists Crossing the line
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 27, 2011	We're also not going to change attitudes by acting as if there is something wrong or unnatural about nudity.
Absolute Naturists Crossing the line
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 26, 2011	I guess because I see no harm in nudity, I see no reason for it to be illegal. It's that simple. In reality, of course, it isn't simple because it is illegal. But I am always mystified by nudists who produce convoluted arguments for the illegality of nudism.
Absolute Naturists Crossing the line
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 25, 2011	I'd say referring to being naked as "exposing yourself" plays into the attitudes we should be opposing. Nude is natural.
Absolute Naturists So are you naked or nude? hmmmmm
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 20, 2011	Naked always sounds more fun.
Absolute Naturists Outdoor Nudity
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 20, 2011	It just feels right.
Nude Hikers & Backpackers Caught! by textiles?
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 18, 2011	I've done that hike (Arizona/Ringbolt Hot Springs) many times nude and have encountered lots of hikers. No problem. I've run into a couple of other nude hikers on the alternative trail. Once I met up with a nude couple on the back trail, then we hiked out together on the main trail. To most people, it's all in good fun. I don't even look at it anymore as "getting caught."
Absolute Naturists Would you prefer to be identified at a Naturist or a Nudist?
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 13, 2011	Of the two, I prefer naturist. I really don't like nudist - it sounds cultish. I think not wearing clothes is normal and natural, so it doesn't really need to be any kind of "ist." Give the labels to the clothes compulsive.
Nude Hikers & Backpackers Introductions
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 11, 2011	Windsailor, the owner of the Bowen Ranch (Mike Castro) doesn't have a problem with nudityv on his property. So a visit to Deep Creek via Bowen can be a totally nude experience. I never wear anything there, weather permitting. I have some issues with the way Mike runs his place, but you can be pretty darn naked there.
Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 8, 2011	I think there are about 4 or 5 topics that account for 98% of all threads on nudist forums. But what the heck - as I said, do what you wish, shave or don't. But it seems odd to me how many people incorporate "shaved" or "smooth" into their screen names, as if that defines their identity. That is really strange to me. I'm done. I can quit, really I can......
Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 7, 2011	Well, SunBunny, I guess you nailed it. Come to think of it, we never get a "do you shave your armpits" thread.
Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 5, 2011	Yes, it's personal preference. I don't care what others do and, frankly, this is an over-discussed topics on these forums. I do wonder how the shaving thing got started. That's what is interesting to me. Why did no one shave, then almost everyone did? What started or popularized this trend?
Single Nudists Unite! Nudist Internet Dating
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 1, 2011	Hey Riverkilt, can I have her phone number?
Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave
canyonhawk Posted: Feb 1, 2011	Couldn't agree more, David. Isn't it funny how no one shaved (look at vintage nudist pics) and then suddenly almost everyone does. I don't know who flipped the switch, but I'm not on that grid.
Nudists in Business Product development: Clothing Alternatives
canyonhawk Posted: Jan 27, 2011	How about robes? Women have a variety of wrap-type things they can just throw on. Men pretty much have robes. I have bathrobes hanging strategically all around the house so I can throw something on if necessary. Why not consider adaptations of the bathrobe for outdoor use? There's nothing about a robe that would violate any law or any puritanical sense of modesty. It's just that the bathrobe is associated with the home, not the supermarket. How to change that? Robes are worn in many cultures - Arabs, Africans, priests, medieval kings, judges - so why can't this simple and practical form be adapted to our daily lives? You need to make it out of something other than flannel or terry cloth to get away from the bathroom association. That's not difficult. Let's all wear robes!
Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave
canyonhawk Posted: Nov 20, 2010	I'm with you, Proud. I enjoy being in my body as it is. I prefer natural on others, too, though it's none of my business. Funny how "natural" has become a minority among naturists.
Outdoor Arizona Fossil Creek
canyonhawk Posted: Aug 3, 2010	Fossil Creek is a tributary of the Verde River. It enters the Verde about a mile downstream of the old Verde hot springs. This is the creek that had the old power plants (circa 1915) that were decommissioned a few years ago. The Forest Service rehabbed the creek and re-introduced native fish and the original stream flow, which had been diverted into reservoirs for the plants. This was all very good, but it got lots of publicity and that seems to have contributed to the overuse of the place. Well, it's really misuse more than overuse. All those people don't have to be such pigs.
Outdoor Arizona Fossil Creek
canyonhawk Posted: Jul 23, 2010	I've camped at Fossil Creek the last two weeks, both mid-week. It's the first time I've camped there since the rehab of the creek. Lots to say about it, but I'll summarize briefly. The Good Best site for swimming holes I have ever found. Miles of clear running water, cascades, falls, deep pools, lush vegetation. It's mind-boggling to hike up or down the creek from just about any spot. The Bad Not surprising: too many people. it's possible to find places to get naked, but it takes some work. And even then, prepare to be seen from time to time. I think it's possible to hike downstream from where the road leaves the creek and be pretty secluded. The area from the bridge upstream to the big waterfall was heavily used. I can only imagine what a zoo it is on weekends. Most of the people are young, college age and the like. Maybe in a month or so it will quiet down. As for camping, the first week we were able to be nude around camp, the second week people kept coming around. The Ugly People absolutely trash this place. It's shameful. The Forest Service has put porta-potties all around, but there is still crap and piles of toilet paper everywhere, as well as cans and plastic bottles and every kind of trash. It's downright criminal. We have to get all paranoid about a little harmless nudity, and these pigs crap and toss trash around with no consequences. It's paradise. Really it is. And it should be treated that way. Which is to say, take off your clothes and pack out your trash.
Nude Hikers & Backpackers Caught! by textiles?
canyonhawk Posted: Jun 22, 2010	Many times. I've never had a problem. Most people are slightly amused. I hope a few of them have gone a little farther down the trail and decided to pull their own clothes off. As Riverkilt suggests, the best thing is to act like it's the most normal thing in the world. Because it is.
Just for fun One liners
canyonhawk Posted: May 17, 2010	My wife, she's such a bad cook the flies chipped in to fix the screen door. My brother-in-law is so lazy. We had to send him to trade school so we'd know what kind of work he was out of.
Just for fun Funny terms they use
canyonhawk Posted: May 17, 2010	How about odd expressions people commonly use in referring to nudists? I'll start with two: Nudist colony - To some, everyplace where nudity occurs is a nudist colony. I went canoeing on the Wisconsin River a number of years ago. We camped on a sandbar near Mazo Beach, a great CO beach where I have spent a lot of time. My companions never stopped referring to it as a nudist colony. Parading around naked - I've invited friends to come with me to a CO beach and have been told "I don't want to be around a bunch of people parading around naked." I have also gotten this in regard to simply being nude at home. I've seen a few parades in my life and all involved fully clothed, often uniformed, people. Where in the world does this expression come from?
Just for fun Your "nudiform" (nude uniform)
canyonhawk Posted: May 16, 2010	Somebody at a CLO beach once told me you're not really nude unless you're barefoot. I more or less agree. Not always practical, though. Same goes for hats, I guess. But now I'm in the house and don't need those things and it's pretty obvious what my nudiform is. Nothing whatsoever. Just what I was issued when I checked in.

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