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Extras Absolute Naturists  A Paradox? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 14, 2013 |
I think you all missed the point. Let me break it down as I see it. The original statement is the paradox of nudist going to nudist clubs and wanting to be dressed. Forget about the world for now. If belonged to a wine club, would I have joined it because I like to drink beer, of course not. If you belonged to a a boating club, would you have joined it because you like to fly airplanes, of course not. So why in the H would you go to a NUDIST club if you don't like to be completely nude and enjoying it. To me even partially dressed is dressed and not nude. It does not make sense. If you want to try baby steps try it at home or at a party with other nudists where the home rules. To me the words clothing-optional create the paradox of the nudist world. Club owners have a tough time enforcing Nude Only because of the paradox of what nudist means to each and every individual. Maybe the question should be what is the purpose of a nudist club. Now IF the world view was to become more relaxed about nudity, maintaining laws about lewdness and other things of that sort, yes it would be a "clothing-optional world" or as I say a human rights respecting world. There would be nothing wrong with that. Everyone could be as they prefer. In that sense, a paradox would not even exist. |
| Absolute Naturists Hidden Springs |
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SunBunny Posted: May 12, 2013 |
I am guessing he is talking about Hidden Springs Nudist Club in Portland, Oregon. It is a non-landed club so I doubt anybody has been there. Maybe someone has participated in their activities, I dunno. I never have so I know nothing about them. They have a website so you can check it out. It is: hiddenspringsnudist.org. |
| Absolute Naturists Would you take your mother to a nudist venue? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 12, 2013 |
Well I doubt that my mother would have ever wanted to try social nudity herself, I would have loved to taken her with me. She always got a chuckle about me enjoying social nudity and she was always supportive of my decisions in life. It just was not her cup of tea. I think it would have really been an opportunity to become even closer as adult to adult. She past away several months ago so we never got a chance to possibly cross that bridge. Reading some of your posts, I feel I really missed something. Thank you for sharing those stories. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts What Do Nudists Wear to a Texas BBQ? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 12, 2013 |
hmmmmmm... for me it is: Cooking: Nothing on! oh, sunglasses maybe. Eating BBQ: Nothing except a little bbq sauce here and there. dang I miss being out there with y'all bbqing and stuff! |
| Absolute Naturists Would you take your mother to a nudist venue? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 10, 2013 |
If your mother, knowing you were a nudist, said she was interested in trying social nudity and asked you to take her to a nudist resort/club.... would you? Do you have any thoughts about seeing your mother nude or being nude with your mother? I realized that for some of us, our mothers have passed, me included, but you can still provide your thoughts on the subject which could prove valuable to others. Thanks. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts What Do Nudists Wear to a Texas BBQ? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 10, 2013 |
What do Texas nudists wear to a Texas BBQ? Let's all have a little fun with this... |
| Absolute Naturists Is the Textile World more sexualized than the Nudist World? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 9, 2013 |
To me clothing is all about marketing, be it professional, cool, sexy, whatever... it is all about marketing or bring attraction to oneself by providing a subliminal message via the clothing. Marketing is selling, sex sells. Clothing is always sexual in some way and it is the forerunner of everything in the textile world so, in my opinion the textile world is more sexually focused than the nudist world. That is why sexual tensions usually get dropped when seeing a person totally nude in the context of a nudist club. |
| Absolute Naturists Clothing at Nudist Clubs... Is there a problem? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 9, 2013 |
Is there a problem with allowing clothing to be worn at nudist orientated clubs? In another recent topic, many of you agreed that the textile world is more sexualized than the nudist world so considering this, how does a sexually oriented/designed Thong swimwear bottoms being worn by a woman in a clothing-optional nudist venue fit into this equation? Isn't this where textile sexual mentality and actions enters into the nudist world and therefor give credibility to the textile belief that nudist clubs are sex clubs? There are nudist clubs that have policies about under-wear not being outter-wear and therefore prohibited BUT I have seen some swimwear that is 100 times more sexy than underwear and this is ok and acceptable by these policies. This is why I am not a fan of clothing-optional nudist clubs. If you are a nudist orientated club then be nude. Otherwise it seems to me bohemian style would be a better name for clothing-optional, dump the policies, and just be unconventional. hmmmmm, what do you think. |
| Absolute Naturists How Open Are You About Being an Absolute Naturist? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 3, 2013 |
Thanks AZsunDude, I appreciate your words. I know that not everybody can live openly with their quest to physically live a nude life, but it is those that choose to place themselves in textile handcuffs in a many times self-imposed fear of retribution that really need to consider my words about living your life according to you and not others. yeah yeah yeah, I know... I can here all the excuses echoing off the Grand canyon walls. To that I say, if you can't get in right in your head, you wil never get in right in somebody else's head. I have heard sooooooo many stories of what some folks THINK will happen to them only to find out later that the world has moved on from the past times and schools of thought and in reality it was no big deal. BTW, to me there are no "accidents", only a tippy-toe coming out process which many have done. Never let your fears hold you back from doing anything you know is true and right in your heart... there will be regrets in the end. |
| Absolute Naturists Is the Textile World more sexualized than the Nudist World? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 2, 2013 |
Is the Textile World more sexualized focus of things than the Nudist World? What do you think... |
| Absolute Naturists How Open Are You About Being an Absolute Naturist? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 2, 2013 |
As most of you know, I am very open about my being a nudist. Be they family and friends or strangers in a nail salon. To date I have never got a "runaway" reaction rather a more curious reaction and sometimes even an admission that they have tried or participate in social nudity. Every time I hear a person say that they are afraid to let people know that they like to be nude I feel sadness for them because they feel they must be doing something bad. I say live your life as you want to and be proud of your choices. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Do you wanna dance naked? Go to LARC |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 30, 2013 |
This coming weekend at LARC in Mount Vernon WA is the Cinco de Mayo prelude dance (Saturday May 4). I will be the DJ for this dance and I am going to have it rockin'. Have you ever danced naked? Try it, you'll like it! |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudist's Cheap? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 27, 2013 |
Are Nudist's cheap when it comes to joining or supporting social nudity venues? I seem to constantly hear "fees are to high" as a primary reason for not joining a nudist club. I hear the "sliding scale" concept often as an idea to get people to join a club. I have to believe that these comments most often come from persons who have no clue on the cost of running a business but I also wonder if these nudist who throw these statemeents out are just CHEAP. What do you think. |
| Absolute Naturists Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 23, 2013 |
I think the last few posts have gotten off topic. This is an interesting topic (for sure a complex one) but I think one that is well worth thinking and talking about more. Please reread the topic and lets hear from you. |
| Absolute Naturists Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 21, 2013 |
So Michigan, what you are saying is that nudist venues are a crutch for hiding or insecure nudists for their practice of social nudity. In this sense are these venues not hindering the promotion of social nudity by being the crutch. If these venues were not available, what would their alternative be. Would there not be a greater motivation by these nudists be more active in changing laws and more actively supporting social actions regarding issues such as nude beaches or maybe even joining or supporting organizations like The Naturist Society as you say. Also I am having difficulty understanding how a nudist who frequents and enjoys going to C/O beaches, which usually have no cost involved, club rules are non-existent and anonymity is a natural occurence, would suddenly feel the urge to gravitate to a nudist venue where all those things are required. Given this, I find it difficult to understand how "it is in the interest of the private nudist resorts to support the development of public venues". Seems to me that giving your customers and cheaper and less rigid option is not the path to continuing a profitable business. Am I missing something? |
| Absolute Naturists Who is the "New Nudist"? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 19, 2013 |
To me the "new nudist" is the person who feels that their desire to be nude is not confined or defined by others. They do not feel a need to belong to a club and act in accordance with a club's rules. They do not believe that nudity is an item of focus as much as an act of simple enjoyment. The new nudist should not be defined by age or gender but rather by freedom of mind and choice. They will do and act as they see best for them. Simple as that... that's what I think anyway. |
| Absolute Naturists Tips & Ideas for Nude Friendly & Comfortable Living Homes |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 19, 2013 |
Keep your homes warm and comfortable and DO NOT make nudity a leading issue...just be normal and go about your daily living chores. That is what we do and after while it is not even a thought that you or anybody else is nude. |
| Absolute Naturists Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 19, 2013 |
What went through my mind on posting this topic is that it dawned on me that nudist clubs/venues are self-imposed places for the acceptable practice of social nudity. AANR calls it “appropriate settings” for social nudity. These are self-imposed places where we are allowed to let our children be nude with adults and let them enjoy themselves. These venues are the places where we can truly feel free to express our beliefs and values on social nudity. These are the places where we are allowed to assemble in the nude and enjoy being nude. These are the places where we can be relatively assured of being treated as law abiding citizens. These are the places where we can feel relatively free of retributions. By the way, many of these are contained in the AANR Nudist Bill of Rights. It seems to me that we have bought into the textile thinking that nudity may be a healthy and natural way of living when practiced in appropriate places like our nudist clubs/venues but not anywhere else that will potentially offend anybody. So if nudity really makes us feel good, gives us a sense of true freedom, lets the sunshine warms our bodies as no indoor furnace can and allows us the feeling of being law abiding citizens when enjoying social nudity, then why must we have to hide behind the walls we have built for this practice. When a club advertises themselves with signage yet fails to mention the practice of social nudity, it is hiding for fear of not being acceptable or offending someone. Also if your club proudly advertises itself as a nudist venue but the signage is out in the middle of the woods where textile families rarely or never drive, is that really being proud of what you do. Are they saying to the membership that there is something wrong with social nudity by this action, yes they are and by those actions hindering the advancement of social nudity. My point is if we really believed nudity was a wholesome and natural way to live, that there is nothing wrong with letting our kids run around the house and yard nude with nude Mom's and Dad's without fearing that a neighbor or school teacher will turn you in to the child protection agency, that we are law abiding citizens with the right to uphold our values and beliefs without fear of retribution, then why in the world would we only be willing to talk about it or practice it behind 10 foot walls, or as AANR says “appropriate settings”. To me these clubs/venues are stuck in the old school Florida nudist model and are doing nothing to perpetuate the open practice of social nudity. Why would they, it is a business for them, it is a livelihood for the owners. They have no motivation to tell members that they do not need to come there to enjoy the practice of social nudity. They have no reason to stand up in front of a governmental agency and tell them that there is nothing wrong with the practice of social nudity. They have no reason to support the continuance of clothing optional beaches. Lack of growing membership in these clubs/venues speaks volumes to the fact that they are out of step with the newer school of thought that people have the right to live as they desire as long as they are not purposely offending others. That they do not need to join a club to be responsible in their practice and belief in social nudity. This is respecting the acceptance of community responsibility within one's self. To me, in this sense they are hindering social nudity. For the common nudist, they are a place to hide behind. If they were not there, what would nudists do. Maybe learn to stand up and be proud of your values and beliefs in the practice of social nudity and openly show that you have nothing to be afraid or or ashamed of. Perhaps even contribute to the growth of the acceptance of social nudity. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Should TopFree be a legal in Washington State? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 19, 2013 |
Should Topfree for females be legal in the State of Washington? Your thoughts with topfreedom in the NW please. |
| Absolute Naturists Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 19, 2013 |
Do nudist venues (resorts, clubs, camps, etc.) hinder the growth and acceptance of public social nudity? Your thoughts please. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Best Places to Nude Vacation in Texas |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 19, 2013 |
Where are the best places to have a nude vacation in Texas? |
| Absolute Naturists Who is the "New Nudist"? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 17, 2013 |
In your opinion, who or what is the "New Nudist"? The memberships in clubs are falling, there on on-going attempts to reach new members with dismal success, some of us "old" nudists (me, included) are scratching our heads trying to figure out how to reach and attract younger people into social nudity yet nothing seems to really be working. So... in your opinion who and what is the demographic of this emerging "New Nudist"? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 11, 2013 |
Maybe it would be an opportunity to combat the image of Nudes-A-Poppin that non-nudist people think we are all about. Then again, maybe we should just say goodbye to a fun past time and not worry about what people think. |
| Absolute Naturists Would the world be a better place if nudity was a human right and allowed ? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 5, 2013 |
Would the world be a better place if nudity was a basic human right, as freedom of speech, and allowed everywhere with commonplace acceptance? Your thoughts please. (Thanks for the topic idea MarcNude.) |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 5, 2013 |
Skyclad, Thankyou for your words. I do hear you and I hope everyone else will too. All I ask from members is for constructive thought and input on any topic, be it pro or con. I do appreciate your passion. Let's move on. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Have you been to LARC ? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 4, 2013 |
LARC open it's season couple of weeks ago and is offering a full calendar of activities. LARC is in Mount Vernon WA and a very nice venue with really fun and cool people. Have any of you been there? |
| Absolute Naturists Obsessed? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 4, 2013 |
ok, my 4 cents worth: 1)To what extent (extreme) could a naturist/nudist be considered too obsessed with being such? My Ans: Walking around in a blizzard nude. Trust me, I have seen some people do some very dumb things. More seriously, when a naturist/nudist uses their nudity to make statements without regard to anyone or anything. To me it speaks more about the fantasy or personal gratification of being nude around others rather than simply the appreciation, enjoyment and freedom of nudity. To that I say, Obsessed-yes, Possessed-yes, Dumb-yes, Nudist/Naturist-no. 2)For a naturist/nudist, could there ever be too much nudity or is it simply not possible? My Ans: How can anything be to much when it just is. Living in a nude community, I never walk out the door in the morning and ask myself if I am too nude or if I have been too nude lately. That does not mean logic leaves reality. It is just the way life is for the naturist/nudist. It is just not logical or possible to be too nude and Mr. Spock would agree I am sure. Thanks for the topic! SB |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 4, 2013 |
Sky, why does it all have to be about judgement and objectification with you. You have been casting stones from the get go on this one and have yet to offer anything yourself as a potential idea to bring it back in a new format even as food for thought. Then again, I guess if you are so set against it why would you offer anything. I don't think it is fair or beneficial to anyone just to keep taking these self-righteous potshots. You even considered me as a person who dos not understand social nudity and an idiot for even posting this topic and when called on it you just threw more venom. All I have heard from you is No NO NO. Is that really all you got. I have read some good thoughts from persons who are open to discussions about having fun with pageants and not making a huge big deal out of it. That is what forums like this are for. They are not for grandstanding and pontification. If you are so set against it, all you had to do is say No I don't think we should ever bring pageantry back, that's all. I believe we would have all understood where you were at. Afterall, that was the question posed. No browbeating and redundant potsots were necessary to make your position known. Just for fun, if you are open to fun, why don't you offer some suggestion that would make it acceptable to you since as you say you have yet to hear anything that is acceptable to you. |
| Absolute Naturists Are women "nude" and men "naked"? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 3, 2013 |
Fellas, maybe you should ask the women in your circles which term they would prefer to use to describe themselves when considering or participating in private or social nudity. Nude or Naked. Ask them, if they are walking around their home without clothing doing what they normally do, are they walking around nude or naked? Let us know what they say. Nudony, yes we (M vs V)are different in how we approach and consider issues and life, yes we think, speak and interpret differently, yes you are on to something and no it is not just semantics. Thank you for more openly reconsidering my thoughts on this subject and also posting another excellent topic. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 3, 2013 |
Well said Captin, well said. When pageants were held in the past by the nudists at and in the nudist venues, I seriously doubt that they thought about being demeaning, politically incorrect, vulgar, sexist, exploitative or anything else like that. They were simply enjoying each others company and enjoying the life and freedom of social nudity. A simpler time, a simpler way of existence. The Easter Bunny was the Easter Bunny and Christmas was Christmas. So what was so wrong with that. A simpler time thats all. Yes times have changed. The internet has changed us all as well. We have lost our small communities and their values and innocence of actions. I am smart enough to know we can never go back to those simple times. Times have changed, some for the good and some not so good. However to call those times and actions of yesteryear bad and demeaning with such rancor as has been done here serves no value. The concept of pageantry at nudist venues for the good of positive nudist expressions was offered for discussion. It does not take an open mind to respond to that, just a thinking mind. A mind that is able to offer constructive input, either pro or con. It has been my experience that those who tend to loudly lay claim to the term open minded usually offer only words that speak volumes of the opposite. I am not sure if anybody is really completely open minded. Very few have a strong enough egos to be open to challenge by others viewpoints and opinions, but we should try. What good does it do to just cast stones. I do get tired and frustrated with people who would rather cast stones than build with them. If you have ever looked upon a old castle they are usually built with stones of all shapes, colors, sizes and content. These stones, regardless of their makeup, build strong common foundations and common walls that can last for centuries. When topics of the likes of pageantries are opened for discussions it would be nice for a change that we all approach them as if we are adding our stones for building and not just throwing. If we all brought our heads and words together in the same vain in building a stronger nudist/naturist community we all may just be better for it and add to its continuance. Thats all I got to say about that... |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Bicycle Rides... what is happening to them? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 31, 2013 |
Evidently not much... |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 30, 2013 |
FP, I appreciate your responding defense of me on this topic. It is a touchy subject and everybody is welcome to their opinions and free to express them as I did. I rarely respond a quickly as I did but when a member calls a subject that I post as dangerous I have to respond and I did. I don't post dangerous subjects, be clear about that. I post challenging subjects. I can't control how you percieve topics or subjects but I will put them out there for you to think about. Obviously this topic has ruffled a few feathers and that is good because it helps us all think and consider other viewpoints. It's not about agreeing with me or not. In the same breath, it's also not about me agreeing with any of you either and thats ok. This forum is for discussions both pro and con of subjects revolving around naturism/nudism be they past, present or future. If you want to take a swipe at me I really don't care either because that is not the point. If you want to nicpic my words then I invite you to put those same energys to more contructive uses and come up with and post challenging and thought provoking subjects that every one can respond to here in this group. That's what this group is all about. Shall we move on on this topic, frankly I am enjoying the responses so far. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 29, 2013 |
If I thought it was a dangerous subject I would not have posted first of all. If you see it as dangerous or a "girlie show" you also missed (or don't understand) the words fun, family oriented and nude positive in the post. There is nothing wrong with being considered beautiful in whatever way, be you male or female, young or old, slim or full figuered, tall or short or whatever. It could well serve to build confidence and self esteem with body acceptance and natural human nudity. It could well be a media hit and show social nudity in a normal and positive light. To me it just seems like pageantry has gotten the bad rap and nudist clubs/members have sexualized pageants themselves to the point that they now run in the opposite direction. Quit sexualizing it. The nude body is beautiful, nudists carry a confidence with not being afraid to show and enjoy their nude bodies and that is beautiful and empowering. So whats so bad about that? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 29, 2013 |
Nudist Pageants were common back in the mid 19's but stopped due to political correctness and sexual exploitations. Should we bring these pageants back, but this time in a fun, family orientatd and nudist positive format? |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts C/O B & B Network On-line |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 28, 2013 |
I am absolutely dumbfounded by this... C-O, after all the words spoken about your efforts to coordinate a superduper concept, your advertising efforts, your inclusion in national organizations revolving around social nudity to me it saddening that some people have still not heard of you. I guess it just go's to show that marketing never stops. By that statement, I am including ALL of the Nudist Community. I always support you and talk you up, keep up the good work. |
| Absolute Naturists Mazo Beach - Another one bites the dust.... Is it possible? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 28, 2013 |
Seems to me that when it gets right down to it nobody cares unless they are directly affected by such actions. This is where the solidarity of the naturist/nudist community always fall short. Law enforcement actions such as this while on the surface are altrusitically credible, the underlying question in my mind is what brought the illegal behavior to the beach. To me the answer is simple. By making social nudity illegal you have placed it in the same bucket as as all the other "illegal activities" that are occuring. Naturists/nudists are no better than drug dealers putting it bluntly. In the eyes of the public illegal is illegal, there are no kinda sort of's if you get my drift. By making this beach, and any others like it, legal for public nudity you give full authority to make any other illegal actions punishable and therefor deter the actions. Hence, fix the issue and you resolve the issue. |
| Absolute Naturists Tips & Ideas for Nude Friendly & Comfortable Living Homes |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 25, 2013 |
What tips or ideas can you share with the group for making their homes and yards more friendly and comfortable for daily nude living? Please share, thankyou. |
| Absolute Naturists Mazo Beach - Another one bites the dust.... Is it possible? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 22, 2013 |
I just read a report on the weekday clousure of Mazo Beach (WI) which had been commonly used by nudists because of excellerated useage for illegal ativities stemming around the homosexual cruising and sexual displays. This is another example of the textile/law enforcement community throwing law abiding ettiquette upholding card carrying nudists in the same bucket as the perverts. Is it possible that this has now become the latest method of attacking social nudity? Did San Francisco spark this direction? So how do you feel about that? |
| Absolute Naturists Is Fantasy Fest a Fantasy Nudist's dream come true? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 22, 2013 |
uhhh... who said anything about tattoos? As I understand tattoos are more of a personal statement or embrace that a person chooses for life to display for themselves. Some of them are artforms, some badges of lifestyle and some of them are life events. Unless it is a temporay tattoo of some sort, this would be another grouping of people that I don't think would go to such events as FF or BM just to show off their tattoos. It would minimize their tat's intent or signicance. I don't think I need to read anybodys post to understand that. Am I right? |
| Absolute Naturists Is Fantasy Fest a Fantasy Nudist's dream come true? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 22, 2013 |
I think my point was missed, I guess I didn't do a good job in my post question. What I was getting at was when you attend a event like Fantasy Fest (could be Burning Man or any like event) and your whole reason for being there is to just be nude or almost nude around other people, doesn't that make your nudity a fantasy (hence a Fantasy Nudist). To me it does. It also means that when the event is over, you go back to your textile way of living because after all it was only a fantasy you were acting out. As a absolute naturist / nudist, I don't live a fantasy. Why would I ever want to put it in a display such as that, it would only serve to make mockery of it as the Marilyn Monroe drag queens do. I have nothing against a little play time, I think it is good for the soul but make it play time and not real time. As far as B-2-B or WNBR (etc.), to me these are more of social causes and when you attend as a naturist/nudist that you are making more of a statement that you as a naturist/nudist supporting the cause like others participating are doing. I can easily get on with that. It demonstrates that we are part of a caring community of like minded everyday people in support a common cause. Way different even of it does provide entertainment for a few. |
| Absolute Naturists Is Fantasy Fest a Fantasy Nudist's dream come true? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 20, 2013 |
Why in the world would a self proclaimed nudist ever want or desire to go to a event like Fantasy Fest to be just nude or topless unless their quest to be nude in a public setting is a fantasy for them? Are they really just "fantasy" nudist's? |
| Absolute Naturists Has this group's discussions changed your outlook on social nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 20, 2013 |
Thanks for the post Oddbutterfly, it is always nice to hear from you no matter what. Also, Thanks to everyone who has given their thoughts. For me this gives validation of value to the time and effort FP and I put into this group for you. My philosphy on sharing is simple, a grain of sand can cause a ripple in the sea which in turn can cause a wave that can create change on a distant shore. Remember if you ever have a subject you would like to post please do. We are all part of this group and we are all part of it's value and success. Thanks again, SB |
| Absolute Naturists Has this group's discussions changed your outlook on social nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 17, 2013 |
Yes it has. It has given me a better view of exactly how different we can all be but at the same time have a common human ground that we internally desire. I believe it is a spirit within us that calls and that we hear so clearly. Others do not hear the same calling and consequently find it hard to imagine where this desire could originate since it is so opposite of social norms. But yet we still hear it and pursue it. I have also gained some new and different perspectives and knowledge on some issues that I had not considered or known of before. I think I better understand the struggles some of our members go through to move towards a naturist way of living and just how much courage that takes. It also has given me a clear picture on how far I have moved, since I can recall myself saying many things some of you have said many years back, and wondering if it would ever be possible to live life as a naturist as I do now. By this I am convinced that it is possible for anyone to live the life you so desire if you really and honestly do want it. The drum you hear is your drum and you should listened to if you want to experience a deeper happiness than many others who choose to listen to the chorus. Thanks for the responses so far... anybody else? |
| Absolute Naturists Has this group's discussions changed your outlook on social nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 16, 2013 |
Have the many discussions we have had here on Absolute Naturists changed your point of view, approach, involvement or anything else in regards to social nudity and/or naturist mindset and if so how? Just curious, your thoughts and words are appreciated. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Elevator Pitches |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 16, 2013 |
We have had this discussionon in this group before about making up some cards, simple cardstock through your printer or Vista as FP spoke of will accomplish the task. If you rely on your home club to give them to you it probably won't happen and even then it will be only one venue vs other venues in the area and can include AANR & TNS urls where they can get more info on their own time if they are really interested. The bottomlinne in a pitch like the one I made is that they got to see a regular person just like them involved in social nudity. That is how you can set a positive example with very few words. It is a powerful way to promote social nudity without preaching which I hear so many do. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 16, 2013 |
... and then she handed him a card with the resort info and with a nice smile she said "see you there and I know you will enjoy yourself". Mission Accomplished! |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 15, 2013 |
Hey, anybody want to join me at the nudist resort this weekend? (That would probably get some interesting looks and maybe some interest) |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 15, 2013 |
Thanks Wingman! Appreciate the clarification. Looks like fun, any of you bikers interested in going.... or tell a friend. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 15, 2013 |
To your posted question...Absolutely without a doubt. If we continue to be complacent politically correct nudists you will keep loosing your beaches and your rights. Very simple... either you begin o take more agressive proactive stances on these issue or we go back to our "colonies" where these folks think we should be so we casue no harm to the general population and just get over it. Be happy with what you have been allowed in your place of acceptability. The policy makers are relatively sure that we are probably not going to raise a big political action stink and put ourselves on camera so they continue to provide lip service and take things away from nudists. Many on here are not even willing to tell your family or neighbors that you are a nudist or that you ever visited a nudist beach or venue. They know that. Let's face it, getting the general population to accept social nudity in their daily lives, whether they participate or not, would be and require an extreme change. The complacent garbage of going to the talking heads of capitol hill's, Boards, Commisions, etc. and talking to the folks who are making the laws opposing and not endorsing social nudity is a waste of time at least it has been up to now. If you want change you have to get on the bus and drive it. If you don't you will always just follow the bus and suck the fumes. Steve, like in NASCAR, getting rubbed is different than getting hit... everyone gets rubbed every now and then in this group and that is what keeps this group active and thinking. Your thoughts and comments are appreciated. SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 15, 2013 |
Not sure I saw anything to indicate this is clothing optional nor that these folks even get what social nudie is all about. Hootchie yes, nudie no. Looks like a typical biker get together to me. Maybe you can enlighten us on this? |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts What is a C-O B&B... a B&B or a Mini-Resort? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 14, 2013 |
The cat get's grouchy... |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts What is a C-O B&B... a B&B or a Mini-Resort? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 14, 2013 |
As I am reading the other threads, some people are treating these B&Bs as destinations. Sort of a couples get-away place. Personally I like that because I think couples need a place to get-away from daily home life and rejuvinate their relationships or celebrate occasions (BDs, Anniv., etc.). I think that would be my leaning if I was to open one. It would still meet the B&B zoning issues and provide a service that would be pretty unique. This is something not readily found in communities. To stop at this type of venue while traveling to your end destination does not make a lot of sense to me nor does the 2-night minimum. C-O has welcomed us to stay with her numerous times since we do travel through her area when we are traveling between our to summer/winter home locations but the car is packed and we are jammin' to get there. Normally driving 500 miles a day and at the end of that you just want to crash, get up early have a quick cheap breakfast and go again. Especially if you are traveling with pet or two. If the area where the B&B is IS your destination like for a football game, car show/race or work well then that would make more sense. So it appears to me that they are a mini-resort operating as a B&B. Si o No? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 14, 2013 |
I like the discussion but it is getting off the thread. we are leaning towards B&B vs Mini-resort. Should we take it over to that thread? I think the answer to this question has been answered (leave it open and comfortable to all guests with the owners setting the tone) although I still think there is room for owners to chime in. FireProf: I would love to but currently living on a boat and in a resort would not work. I always keep it as a possibility for the future. I think what C-O has set up provides a wonderful opportunity to give it a go if you have accomodations and the personality to do it. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 14, 2013 |
Totally agree Firez on both counts and this has been an enlightening discussion. I think it would be really good to have updates on how the concept and actual B&B's are developing. Is that possible C-O? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2013 |
Well alrighty then, exactly what I was thinking on the subject. Thanks CO and SoCal for confiriming what I believed would be the best way to approach it and one that I can totaly agree with. With my leanings towards naturism I am always inclined to drop labeling (CO vs Nude) and just go with comfort and naturalness. I do see the B&B as a potential bridge but also a place where a couple can have a more relaxing weekend together without the typical homelife stresses. You really can't do that in a club type environment. You don't have to be traveling to take advantage of this either in my opinion. For local community folks to be able to have a place to go where they can feel safe, free of judgement and encouraged to enjoy the simple naturalness of humanity is great. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 12, 2013 |
I was hoping to hear from some actual B&B owners and their experiences. I felt fairly certain I would get the divide from those who may patronize a B&B which may well be the answer. If that is the case, is flexibility the answer? |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Bicycle Rides... what is happening to them? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2013 |
Outside of Seattle, what is going on with nude bicycle rides in WA? |
| Absolute Naturists Artistic Nude Photography... what is it? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2013 |
When viewing artistically portrayed Nude Photgraphic images, what is it that you see and how would you described it? |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Nude Beaches in Texas Updates |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2013 |
Are there any updates or new experiences regarding nude tolerant beaches in Texas. I was asked again recently and frankly my answer was as wishy washy as the nude laws in TX. Can anybody shed some light please. |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts CO or Nude... what works best for a B&B? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2013 |
If I was considering opening a Bed & Breakfast, would it be better to set it as a clothing optional or nude only? What do the experiences lean towards and why? |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 2, 2013 |
Does anybody have any new info or experiences with this subject? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 1, 2013 |
Totally agree Fiesco, that is what driving the bus is all about. But how do we make that happen? FP, now that I think of it I think it is Textiles 4 Nudists 0 (include Bates beach on Ventura/Santa Barbara CO.Line in CA. I use to go there when I was in Cally. ok ok... So how do we begin to do what Fiesco stated? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 1, 2013 |
FireProf here is a thought about that... East Coast vs West Coast. I am becoming more convinced that AANR is not in touch with West Coast Nudism. As for the shutting down, Textile's 1 - Nudist's 0 ... game over and the beat go's on. Once again we are chasing the bus rather than driving it. |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudist's Really Free Spirits? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 26, 2013 |
I don't think I know anyone who isn't weighted from time to time by everyday troubles or challenges of life...but how they process the muck of it is what makes the difference in my opinion between free spirited or not. Some just choose to get buried in it and stay in it, some prefer to hang out with like people and perpetually spin in the muck and then there are those who deal with it and move on. They refuse to continually carry the weight. They also refuse to carry the weight of social demands and norms. They go to the beat of their own drum. They just deal with junk and move on. To me that is what free-spirited is all about and it is a mindset. I don't think the fact of being a nudist has any bearing on it. People are people whether they prefer to be clothed or nude. It is like saying nudist are all cool, and we know that's not true. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 23, 2013 |
It won't be long before spring and summer arrive. Any plans for doing something new and interesting? Visit somewhere new? Let's hear from everyone. |
| Absolute Naturists If it was YOUR resort: the philosophy and policies |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 20, 2013 |
Good question... I would create a utopian community where everyone was allowed to live as they choose. The rules would be simply that they must be respectful to everyone in the community, appreciate and enjoy the many human diversities within the community, contribute to the community's well being and be happy and loving people. You can be nude as you choose. You can be dressed as you choose. It would be a community of acceptance. I think when you start drawing lines in the sand about being nude or CO you cause division and remove the philosphy of acceptance. Respect and acceptance would be the only rule or law. You did say a "gazillion" right.... |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudist's Really Free Spirits? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 20, 2013 |
Are nudist's "Free Spirits" in their nature? Some claim this is the case but many actual nudist discussions and actions seem to point in the opposite direction. What do you think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 7, 2013 |
I am not sure where you came up with MY Philosphy being NAKED or BUST.... I don't believe I ever said that. To me that would be akin to keep banging your head on the wall because it actually feels good. That is just DUMB as is your take on what you think my philosphy is. C'monnnnn. My philosphy relating to naturism is that it is a natural part of life and we should not bring the shame equation or sexualization into it EVER. That is why I consider myself an ABSOLUTE NATURIST. In addition, I am on the record as disagreeing with the use of the word NAKED when it come to naturistic expressions. ok, How you express your desire to be nudist/naturist among those you associate with is your call. Your associates are all different in their perceptions of nudism/naturism. You should expect different reactions. My true friends (friends and associates are different) know exactly how I feel about naturism and how I believe that it is a natural and positive part of life. I don't need to parade around nude in front of them to demonstate how I feel about it. It is an intellectual and philosphical thing and should never be mixed up with what could be construed with exhibitionism. They sometimes come to me with questions as the resident expert (I don't consider myself one but I do have many resources and experiences) regarding social nudity/naturism and I am happy to answer their questions as best I can. To me that is the best way to entwine social nudity/naturism with "textile" friends. We were all probably considered textile at some point in our life. Think about your expereince with that and where you are now. Always Be The Example... now that is my philosphy. Get it right! |
| Absolute Naturists Lighthouse Beach (NY-USA) No Longer Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 6, 2013 |
When I read this letter, my first thought was... so who screwed up the long time use of responsible social beach nudity. It was the same folks who screwed up San Fran. It was the same folks who did not differentiate social nudity/naturism from a sexualized mentality or agenda. They even said it in the letter. They knew who it was. While the letter did try to give credit to the many who used and supported the beach responsibly the action did not follow that and reduced the sincerity of the statement to PC Gobbly Gook BS. The action was the same, it made social nudity a crime rather than focusing the action of the real offenders of sexual and health issue crime. I am sad to see this action. I hope nudists and naturist alike take this as another erosion of clothing optional beach use. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 6, 2013 |
One word that I always read in most discussion on public nudity is "harmful". That seems to me to be an absolute and most people off the top of their head reactions is fear. That is an absolute as well. While I agree that we percieve ourselves to live in a pluristic world of no absolutes, I think there are. Many times I think we perpetuate those negative concepts by the continued use of words such as harmful which is absolutely a word of many definitions in perception. |
| Absolute Naturists Who started the need or requirement to wear clothes? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 6, 2013 |
What makes this group somewhat unique and definitely more interesting than almost any group in NC is the concept of encouraging "honest and challenging discussions on social nudity" as written in the group mantra and strongly supported by the group moderators. Remember, these are open discussions and not personal mockeries or attacks. If this is not your cup of tea you are always free to leave. To me this is the type of topic that makes us THINK rather than just ACCEPT. Many of you are doing exactly that and I appreciate it. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Who started the need or requirement to wear clothes? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 4, 2013 |
Cave men wore cover ups? Cave women wore Cover ups for tops and bottoms? Adam & Eve wore clothes after eating the apple? Really? I mean Really... do you know that for a fact. Were you there to actually see and witness that -OR- did you see that in pictures and read it in words drawn and written by modern man. Seems to me there are many here who are simply buying into Blind Faith rather than questioning it. Seems to me when the Spanish Padres came over to the New World they brought their puritan crap with them and taught the natives the concept of shame. If they had not done that we might be living in a different old world. Did I say the CHURCH messed this up... I think I did, and they still do. |
| Absolute Naturists Will the San Franciso debacle impact social nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 4, 2013 |
AANR and NAC a offshoot of TNS DID get involved but they did not (nor have ever) lead the concept of social public nudity being accepted within communities. I am not sure why they felt compelled to join in on this gay led campaign. The word Nudist was exploited in this debacle and they helped. They whole thing was a Cluster F... in my opinion. |
| Absolute Naturists Will the San Franciso debacle impact social nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 3, 2013 |
Jansen, I could not agree with your more on your statement.... "But I believe the debacle in SF gives people an even stronger motive to "protect themselves" from "nudists". IMHO, AANR and TNS would do well to distance themselves and mainstream nudism/naturism from the activists in SF.". I have said this from the begining. The SF issue was and still is the natuirst/nudist worst nightmare. If the nudist organizations really think nudity should be allowed then why not use all their expertise and history to make it happen. INSTEAD they follow the Castro Gay Community which was totally sexual from the get go. How stupid was that... and they still want to continue. They are perpetuating the media exploitation that nudists are homosexual and sexual deviants/exhibitionists in the general publics mindset. How very very dumb and gutless is this. |
| Absolute Naturists What part of naturism do textiles not understand? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 3, 2013 |
What part of the quest to live a healthy naturist life does the textile population not understand and consequently tend to demonize? Your thoughts please. (Pipermac, this is replacing your previous posted topic. I think it leads to the same point you were trying to make.) |
| Absolute Naturists Who started the need or requirement to wear clothes? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 3, 2013 |
Capping on a previous topic/post about textiles not getting naturism/nudism I thought it would be a good idea to go back to the root of the issue. So who started the need or requirement to cover our bodies with clothing and why? Go for it folkss! |
| Absolute Naturists Will the San Franciso debacle impact social nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 1, 2013 |
Will the San Francisco public nudity debacle have a positive or negative (or any) effect on social nudity and community nudity acceptance becoming a reality? Your thoughts please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 1, 2013 |
By being real and honest examples as you are doing. By not hiding behind all those lame excuses or hiding in the closets. By having the courage and coviction to live our lives as we deem apropriate, by our standards and not others or the "Church". By not being exhibitionist and making our desire to live positive and natural a reality and not a once in a while joke. That's what I think anyway... |
| Absolute Naturists Main barriers to an excepted nudist movement. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 31, 2013 |
Piper... did you just say 'like I am" in relation to being in the closet. If nudists/naturist stay in the closet what they are saying is I am ashamed of being a nudist or I am afraid the church is going to kicked me out. I must be a sinner. That continues to give creedence to those opposing the nudist movement. That is a powerful barrier and it is being fueled by closeted nudists. Interesting.... |
| Absolute Naturists Main barriers to an excepted nudist movement. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 31, 2013 |
...and if I may add one more; Maybe the majority of those who identify themselves as nudists/naturists are of an age where they don't use or even like Facebook. I am a good example, I don't need to "like" anything nudist/naturist on Facebook just to let folks I don't even know how I feel. I think some see it as a badge of merit, probably becasue they don't live it. On-line things like FB are just more barriers for people to live their nudist fantasy indoors. To really appreciate nudism/naturism you need to get out in the sunshine and fresh air. BTW, I dumped my Facebook account, it has no value to me. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 30, 2013 |
This is great...I think it is so good that we are finding more local community through the group. Keep it up. |
| Absolute Naturists Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 29, 2013 |
Armadillo... I guess you missed the words in my post: (as much as possible). Stop the nitpicking and get on to the real sbject if you can. Thanks to all you others who are taking the time to understand the point of the question. It does have to do with introspection and if you correlate that to the quote I posted in the other recent topic about Naturism it begins to make even more sense, at least from my viewpoint. (BTW Armadillo, you also missed the point of TXBikers post. I have removed your last post as a result of your assault and rudeness. In the past you have made some constructive and informative comment. Not sure what is going on now. That's 2.) |
| Absolute Naturists Absolute NATURISM... what is it? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 28, 2013 |
“Naturism is about being free enough in our surroundings to be able to feel the wind, or the sun, or water without the pervasive feeling that we must be clothed to enjoy this much pleasure in our lives. It is also about living and sharing this experience with everyone and everything around you. It's just about being yourself.. 'naturally'.. in a beautiful natural setting with nature surrounding and holding us in it's arms. ” (Quoted from iNAKED I think this quote speaks to EXACTLY the type of person that this group is for. Recreatonal nudity and club only nudity is different. What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Elevator Pitches |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 24, 2013 |
Share with us what you think would be your BEST Elevator Pitch to promote social nudity or naturism. Remember it is usually limited to about 15 seconds, sometimes longer but not much. Go For It! (Thanks for the idea MarcNude) |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists How do you like to Camp Out? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 23, 2013 |
So what is your idea of camping out or as they say "Roughing It"? |
| Absolute Naturists Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 22, 2013 |
If this question is "Elitist" you have your head in a cornfield. Give me a break. This is a real type situation that happens very much and you don't need to livein a high priced resort to understand that...geez, how dumb. Nudony, I think we are on the sme wave length. As FireProf said earlier the key word is fear (of whtever) and that requires lots of introspection. That is what this topic was all about. It is about getting real with ourselves. This group is about living nude...LIVING NUDE, get it. We all have hurdles that we need to get over before you can do that. My main fear many years ago was wat woluld some of my good friends think if they knew I preferred to live nude. It was my fear. After long thought, I got over it and you know what, my friends are still my friends. Being very open about my living nude (as much as possible) is a freeing experience. If you live your life based on what others think, you are missing life. There is nothing elitist about that. |
| Absolute Naturists Gay Marriage: How will it affect Nudist Clubs/Venues? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 14, 2013 |
I hear eveything you are saying Sky, I agree with you on most of it and I hope and pray you are correct and your words and thoughts are heeded, at least someday. From my personal experiences nudists and nudist venues owners are all over the map. Some are good with it, some are not. All nudists are not cool or flexible, let's never forget that. Why, I think FireProf spoke to that quite correctly and honestly in his earlier post. |
| Absolute Naturists Social Nudity vs Marijuana Use |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 14, 2013 |
Which means to say if large social nudity representative organizations such as AANR would stop roping off social nudity to only "appropriate places" then it would help or begin to reduce the fear of social nudity as has happened with homosexuality... right? If so I agree. The more openly discussed an issue is the more informed and educated we become and our fears of/on the issue are minimized significantly. Just makes sense. |
| Absolute Naturists The Alicia Silverstone story |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 14, 2013 |
This speaks in many ways to what I was getting at exactly. Thanks for the post and picking up on that Nudony, appreciate it much. I read something a few days ago that specifically spoke to people, including some nudists, being internally afraid to be nude anywhere outside of their personal domain. This included even speaking about their social nude enjoyment publically. What struck me about it is that it was their own internal fear and not external fears. They were really afraid to do it. Like speaking in public and shaking in your boots (Uggs). I had never really considered that factor before since for me it is a non-issue. I like eye-openers like that, makes me think (especially when it's cold and I can't go out and play. I don't think Woody Harrelson gives a rat butt but that is what self-confidence is all about. It is a shame that she didn't want to at least wave the banner a little bit. Every and any discussion such as that does help people begin to understand that it is not that big of a deal or weird. I think it would be good to ask ourselves if we are afraid of being nude or openly talking about our choice to be a nudist/naturist in a public setting/media. Not looking for and actually don't want your personal answers, just think about it for your own personal introspective. Sounds like that was Alicia's situation. |
| Absolute Naturists Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 13, 2013 |
Oh No, not the "real" nudist discussion again. If it walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck and acts like a Duck...I think it must be a Duck. Just my real "realist" nudist perspective on Nudist "Colonies", oh sorry I mean "Resorts". PC BS. Thanks to everyone so far on your willingness to give your thougths on this challenging and thought provoking subject. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Social Nudity vs Marijuana Use |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 13, 2013 |
I was thinking about this because my home state, Washington, just recently passed a law "decriminalizing" recreational use of MJ. Yet they hold fairly firm on social nudity not being acceptable nor "legal". Even topfree doesn't work. This decrimalizing won't change my habits, I lost to many brain cells back in the 60's and now have to hold on to all I got, whatever. Anyway more often than not, MJ use is casually discussed by all walks of people and usually ends in a chuckle and admission of use once upon a time. No big deal. However Social Nudity discussions tend to make people uncomfortable at the get go. You can sense the body language tighting. Nobody tends to readily admit to it (except me for sure) for fears of losing acceptance. All I can assume is that it must be the sex and body shame thing playing into peoples minds. Maybe we all should get mellowed out and dump the clothes. Don't forget the munchies. CO_Home, yes it is cold in Texas right now so go figure. |
| Absolute Naturists Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 13, 2013 |
I didn't ask what your excuse was, I ask why do you think so many nudistss make excuses to not live nude. C'mon, put some thought into it! My thought is that it is easier to walk downhill rather than uphill. While this is definitely true, the problem with that is all you will see and experience is what you have already experienced. Essentially the majority of nudists are "older" and no longer willing to fight the good fight. As Hill Billy spoke to, they are not willing to take a chance on losing what they have or potentially risk their social status in their community. They are apathetic and tired to a large degree. Consequently I believe they readily accept the concept that nudity is only acceptable in appropriate place... like the nudist colony. |
| Absolute Naturists What are the Biggest Nudist Issues to resolve/fix in 2013? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 12, 2013 |
Getting Nudists who are not Nudists to stop calling themselves Nudists. It's just not cool and total BS. All they do is handout their little distorted fantasy of what they think social nudity is to folks who don't know anything about it and hurt us all. Very dumb. |
| Absolute Naturists Why do people wear clothes? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 12, 2013 |
Back to the original question posed: Why do people wear clothes? Nobody ever said people were smart or logical. Actually I think most folks are pretty dumb and only live in their itty bitty worlds. From my experiences, the majority of everyday type people I encounter have the heard mentality so they would not even think about not wearing clothes and forget about having the courage to not wear clothes. Thank goodness there are a few of us who can hear the different drum. I say Let them be offended! By the way, my experience has also shown me that many nudists also have the heard mentality and I totally agree with you on "I think that damn near everyone would love being nude if they just tried it". |
| Absolute Naturists Social Nudity vs Marijuana Use |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 12, 2013 |
Why do many people have liberal views on the use of marijuana YET get so uptight when it comes to social nudity? There are many arguements about the addiction and health impacts of using MJ. I haven't heard to many on social nudity... heaven forbid we should become addicted to social nudity. Your thoughts please. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Winterizing? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 12, 2013 |
hmmmm, seems to me the answer was pretty clear...NOTHING! Not even making snow angels. I still find it difficult to believe that the NorthWest is anything close to a hotspot for social nudity. I think the geese have it right. Anybody NOT agree??? |
| Absolute Naturists Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 12, 2013 |
Why do so many nudists make so many excuses as to why they can't live nude lives? I just don't get it. Not looking for "the law won't let me" type responses, it would just be another excuse, really it would be. Think about it and gives us your thoughts. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Does Texas Lifestyle & Culture have an Impact on Social Nudity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 12, 2013 |
How or does the lifestyle and diverse cultures in Texas have an impact on social nudity in Texas? Does not seem like much going on... Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists What are the Biggest Nudist Issues to resolve/fix in 2013? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 5, 2013 |
There are many HUGE issues needed to be overcome so how about a potential Baby Step.... getting nudist to be open about their nudity. To not be ashamed of being nudists? To get their heads straight and start acting and treating like social nudity as a normal thing to do and way to be. That seem to me like the easiest path of less resistance... or is it? |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Being a nudist |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 5, 2013 |
I guess a bug hitting you biking nude would be kinda the same as bacon spatter when your cooking... ouch! yep, been there done that. BUT... Being a nudist is so many things to so many people. Some like to be nude only at home to the other side of life living at a nudist venue and being nude almost always or at least whenever you choose. Seems to me that if you understand whta being a nudist is at a core level then it doesn't matter how you desire to express your nudity. What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists What are the Biggest Nudist Issues to resolve/fix in 2013? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 3, 2013 |
What do you think/believe to be the biggest or most important issues related to social nudity that we should try to resolve or fix in 2013? Let's just think outloud on this one. Thanks! |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Nude Plans for a Nude Year |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 3, 2013 |
What are your nude plans for 2013? |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Making 2013 a better year for social nudity better in the NW? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 3, 2013 |
What do you think we can do to make social/recreational nudity in the NW better in 2013? Any thoughts or ideas welcomed... |
| Absolute Naturists Internet issues |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 25, 2012 |
Thanks for the response Brian. I hope this answers any questions or frustration our members have had. You can always contact NCH staff with concerns by using the "Contact" menu item on the bottom of any NCH page. I will be deleting this thread shortly since the issue has been addressed. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Internet issues |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 24, 2012 |
I have also noticed the slow downs and login problems over the last couple of days. I have reported it to the NCH staff. I am sure they are working on it. Please be patient. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Promoting nudism: as a nude or C/O activity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 23, 2012 |
"When I convinced myself"... well said. That was my point exactly. Any amount of discussion in either vain, be it c/o or nude, will only fall on deaf ears until the person is ready to do it themselves. I give them a perspective as an example. I don't state which is better nor give an opinion. They will choose how to place that in their reality as they feel appropriate. Until then it is a waste of breath. Promoting is basically selling. All I said is be an example. Let them buy what they want. If you choose to "promote" nudism from what you beleive is a path of least resistence then you have merely offered your personal bias and not represented nudism as a whole. I am not looking for agreement, merely stating how I view the question. |
| Absolute Naturists Promoting nudism: as a nude or C/O activity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 23, 2012 |
I think if you talk about it from either perspective then you have missed the entire point of living nude or being an absolute naturist. All that has occurred is promoting the crap of being nude in an appropriate place. The crap of being appropriate and conforming to nudist etiquette. The crap of living your life as has been deemed correct by the religous world. I think the best way to promote social nudity is to be the example. I live nude because I prefer it and it works best for me. I am not a bad or crazy person. I am not a pervert. I don't kiss moss or hug trees. I am honest and caring. Most anybody that I would have a conversation with about nudity would instantly get the point that there is nothing WRONG or embarassing with being nude. It is a way of life that is natural and without shame. Being nude is a natural way to be. To do this it must be real and organic within your beief system. If it isn't, it is just words and simply BS. Also by doing anything else you begin to segment nudity into varieties, bring judgement about it, to sexualize it and create levels of acceptance of human beings as they are. Maybe that is the real difference between naturists and nudists. I consider myself to be a naturist at the core, better yet an Absolute Naturist. I live nude without any shame or pretense. Yes I have to conform to the textile world but I don't have to agree with it. Promote by example and nothing else if you really are interested in promoting social nudity as a way of living. |
| Absolute Naturists Gay Marriage: How will it affect Nudist Clubs/Venues? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 18, 2012 |
I have to say that from my experience most clubs/venues members are not yet able to handle to males holding hands or giving each other a gesture of loving affection whether they are nude or not. It has always been different when you see two women doing it. It is easier to accept the visualization of two women kissing verses two men kissing. Lets be real about that. Maybe the clubs will relax their rules about same sex couples but the MEMBERSHIP will continue to be a problem as long as nudity is equated with sex. At many clubs there is still issues with racial bias and discrimination, how long has that been unlawful... just being real. |
| Absolute Naturists Why are on-line nudist's insecure with nudist status? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 18, 2012 |
Why are on-line nudists so insecure with their nudity status? Almost in every on-line discussion or thread there is a prevailing school of one upmanship and judgement. Why? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Who is the better nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 18, 2012 |
I am not sure that LOL is appropriate. I believe it was made in frustration which I totally understand and agree with. LOL minimizes what I have been seeing going on in this thread. Once again some members of the group have taken it personal no matter how subtle their responses have been in that regard. I am really perplexed as to why this occurs but it does relate to my earlier post. The original question is "Who is the better nudist?". It was not I am a better nudist than you because blah blah blah. In a group that is supposed to be for people who at their core understand and want to live in a absolute nude world, why does such insecurity with nudism seem to prevail. I will leave you to ponder that question. Better yet I will post it as a topic and you can give your thoughts. I knew, as Nudony did, that this topic might possibility lead to controversy or better yet significant angst but I thought that it would be a good topic because the online nudist community is filled with such judgemental discussions. It would be a good way to flesh out how "absolute" nudists put such silly questions into context. Needless to say, I am a little dissapointed. I would like this thread to continue with a bigger picture viewpoint if possible. |
| Absolute Naturists Who is the better nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 16, 2012 |
I think anyone who says they are a better nudist than someone else has self esteem issues. If you are confident and comfortable in what you do or how you do it... who cares. There is room for everyone in the pool. To comment on things I have heard said in this regard they usually come from wannabes or closet nudists who feel a need to establish themselves as nudists. Pounding of the chest so to speak. People who have been practicing nudism for years can see right through it and it really looks stupid. |
| Absolute Naturists Questions About Nudity Without Expected Answers |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 14, 2012 |
A follow up on what led me to this post: Yesterday I handed the physical therapists a few older copies of the AANR Bulletin. I ask them if they would be interested in reading them before doing so. They enthusiastically said yes which was far from the first semi-negative response. Obviously planting the seed and allowing it to germinate worked. This in a way go's back to my card handing method listing websites when someone asks me about. it really seems like a natural way to approach human nature... hmmmm, naturally natural. |
| Absolute Naturists Gay Marriage: How will it affect Nudist Clubs/Venues? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 14, 2012 |
How will Gay marriage affect nudist clubs and venues? Your thoughts please. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Are you having a Nude Christmas? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 8, 2012 |
Are you planning on have a nude Christmas? I am! |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists and their clothing choices |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 8, 2012 |
Nowdays, a simple sun dress is all the cover-up I ever do when I have to venture into the textile world. Nothing underneath. No bra line or panty lines. I think the guys at the home improvement store have figured it out and are always very helpful when I am shopping there. |
| Absolute Naturists Questions About Nudity Without Expected Answers |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 8, 2012 |
What are your thoughts about posing questions to non-nudists without expecting or asking for an answer? ok, let me explain. The other day I was having a conversation with a couple of textile physical therapists about social nudity. While they were not freaked out about social nudity they did not understand why someone would want to live nude nor could they see themselves being nude among others. Instead of posing (or bagering) them with questions with expected answers I just said, "think about what feelings you have within yourself that would prevent you from participating in social nudity" and ended it with please don't anser that to me, just think about it. Whether that was good or bad, I don't know... I just decided to do it that way. So back to the original question: What are your thoughts about posing questions to non-nudists without expecting or asking for an answer? |
| Absolute Naturists On The Lighter Side-PUNCH LINE Quiz #2. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 8, 2012 |
Tommy, thanks for the fun post. By the way, that someone who posted the pastie lady topic was me. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Merry Christmas vs Happy Holidays |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 8, 2012 |
Here in Texas, is it "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays"? Your thoughts please... A lot of controversy is occuring over the terms and associated beliefs. There seems to be a geographical leaning involved. Not trying to start a holy war, just curious what you think about it. |
| Absolute Naturists "Nudism is not about seeing or being seen." |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 2, 2012 |
I believe your question was: does the idiom "nudism is not about being seen or seeing" still make rational sense? To me the simple answer of course it makes sense. Thats how we deal with living nude every day. If you live it 24/7 it is not hard to understand. If you do not live it, then I would say it is a very real occurence and it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not becasue it happens. I have seen the nude women wearing high heels and the macho men flexing and strolling the pool...they are there to be seen. seems to me if you are there with the forethought to be seen you are also looking and checking out others. I think these are the people that would rationialize it as not occurng to cover the action. If you live it you can spot it a mile away. I don't try to put it in any logical context because it is just nonsense. |
| Absolute Naturists On The Lighter Side-PUNCH LINE Quiz #2. |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 28, 2012 |
I was kind or wondering if that was "Pastry" also and not pasty. Can you give is a heads up. I have a great answer for the pastry wording. |
| Absolute Naturists On The Lighter Side-PUNCH LINE Quiz #2. |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 27, 2012 |
1. What does a nudist tell the judge in court? >I have nothing to hide. 2. What does a nudist do in winter weather? >Chill 3. What do you call a Pasty Lady at a nudist resort? >Sticky 4. Why did the nudist cross the road? >Becasue he didn't want to be called a chicken. |
| Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 23, 2012 |
The basic premise of equal rights for men and women is almost beyound basic understanding and simplicity. YET the female breast remains outside of the equation and the laws, courts, and enforcement organization can't understand that. You can't fix stupid... but you can teach your children that breast are not sexual, maybe we can begin to fix the proliferation of stupid at that level. |
| Absolute Naturists New Mexico's Nude Law vs San Francisco's New Nude Law |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 23, 2012 |
Not sure what the question was in the original topic BUT I think the message is how nudity can be viewed by law can be so different in one state verses another when the nudity remains the same. To me that is an easy one, geographic social norms and perspectives vary significantly. Guess who makes the law. Try opening a nudist resort in a bible belt community. Not gonna happen. Again, the San Francisco thing was based in the Castro District which Supervisor Weiner represents. It is primarily populated by gay men who are not nudists. As I have said before, the whole SF thing was not about being supportive of nude living but rather accomodating the gay district wishes by Sup. Weiner. Politically I doubt he is going anywhere. If you really think about what most textiles think about nudists, this is just one more thing that the nudist organization gave them to add to the artillery against us. No... nudist aren't all gay either nor do they all wear cock rings and spikes. If nudists are really serious about changing the way people think about accepting nude living as a legal and positive way of living in any community or state, do it on our own merits and not under the rainbow flag. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Venturing to Warmer Climes |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 17, 2012 |
There are a few other places that you don't have to be rich to move to and warm up. It gets cold in Palm Springs beleive it or not. I have friends that are still working but plan and take their vacations in the winter months and go where it is warm. Like Hidden Beach in Mexico. I think that is a good idea because it gets you out of the frostbite doldrums. From my personal experience, the Washington winters are depressing and even more so if you are a nudist. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists and their clothing choices |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 17, 2012 |
I hear you Roller, the other day I went to the local Pizza Hut and a young woman walk in and I swear her pants were so tight she was smiling from top to bottom. When this happens it always begs the qustion in my head, what is the difference between that and nude... you are seeing almost everything anyway and even in a much more provacative manner. As to another point I was making earlier, most business schools and consultants will always use the phrase "Dress for Success" when trying to teach good business practices and etiquette. Why is that? Does it just sound good. Like it or not, people will judge you on how you look. Ask any Hobo with a Ph.D., they will tell you. It is pretty much a fact also that people act in accordance with how they are dressed. Formal will act formal, smartly will act smartly, trendy will act trendy, casual will act casual, so forth and so forth. It just happens. Clothes are communication for many people. That is what I like about being a nudist and being around nudists, we rely on ourselves for communication. Makes it more real. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Whats new at yor nudist hangout? |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 17, 2012 |
Since nobody has responded to this topic, does that men nude life is dead in TX? Nothing happening anywhere? Really? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists and their clothing choices |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 16, 2012 |
This discussion has brought up another thought about our clothing choices. Not a different topic, just a different thought or angle. There is a big difference between clean, comfortable and casual and dirty, messy and sloppy. How we dress, when we do, has an effect on how we act. At least I think so. If we dress sloppy, we act sloppy. If we dress smartly, we act smartly. This does not mean trendy, I think trendy is dumb. As a nudist, to me clothing does not carry the same importance as with the textile world. Considering this, I think it is important that we do not fall into the being sloppy and unkept mindset when we do dress. All we have to do is look into a mirror, is your t-shirt on backwards or is your dinner still on it. Again, just a thought... |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists and their clothing choices |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 15, 2012 |
Since I am no longer in the formal workplace the need for that type of clothing is no longer a priority. Nowdays I choose comfort and simplicity. In that vain I usually shop from the sales racks where I usually find quality at a good price. I do have nice clothes in the closet for use at the gigs we do and for when a dress up affair calls for. I like to look nice, makes me feel good. Again,and especially when you live in a nudist venue, clothes are not a priority. Actually I find myself in disbelief when I thumb through a trendy fashion magazine and see the cost factor of some of the clothes that are in style for(and only) the season. Gee Willakers. |
| Absolute Naturists Absolute Naturist Topics - the Good, Bad and the Ugly |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 15, 2012 |
Thank you both for the comment. These comments are perfectly on track with what I was trying to get at. It has been my experience as well that the word "you" is not the best to use in any discussion since it directs conversation in a personalized manner. I am guilty of using it but I try not to. The advice on stepping back before responding is always a good idea anytime. Again, thank you. Anybody else have a comment? I am looking forward to having some good topics/subjects from everyone in the near future. |
| Absolute Naturists Absolute Naturist Topics - the Good, Bad and the Ugly |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 14, 2012 |
What makes a good topic for us all to discuss? Many things, but how we craft them is sometimes even more important. It is what makes the dir=fference between the good and the bad or ugly. We are the most active and fastest growing group on NCH. Your active participation has contributed to that and I thank all of you for that. I have always encouraged members to post topics. I think this is a good time to cover how I beleive we should do this. A good start is to review the many topics on here already. They are pretty good examples to follow. Here are a few basic guidelines to follow: > Always try to ask a question upfront that members can respond to. This would be in the title and the first line of the post. >Ask for responses or thoughts before stating your position. There is plenty of time for that later in the topic post life. >Do not use your topic and as platform for your beleifs. You have opportunity to express your beleifs in responding to topics. >Be respectful. This does not mean being politically correct all the time. Words are powerful tools, use them carefully. Ok, that's about it. If there are other things that you think would be helpful additions on this topic please express them. Your thoughts are welcome also. This group is about naturism and nudism. However, we are people also with many interests other than social nudity. I encourage you to every so often re-read the mantra and try to follow it in all you do, post and respond. Thank you, SB |
| Absolute Naturists Children Raised As Nudist... Choice? |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 13, 2012 |
This is exactly what I was trying to say in that other topic about getting younger persons involved in social nudity. It begins at home and the examples we set. Whether they decise to do that or not will be their decision and choice. No X-Box or creative marketing strategy by a nudist venue will change that to any great degree. It all starts with us and the examples we set. We are probably behind the curve on this because we were raised in a time of significant non-acceptance and negative social norms. The media information tools were not available to us as they are nowdays. Never the less, it is not to late to start, even of it is with our adult children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. We are the examples of credibility. |
| ASA Days THE (BARE) TRUTH IN ADVERTISEMENT |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 11, 2012 |
I don't care if it is a woman drinking coffee or a gecko walking down the beach... whenever clothing optional is mentioned in such a casual fashion it takes it one step closer to being a normal thing to do. That is good. Good job Andy, stupid personalized and unwarranted petty comments should never be tolerated in any of our groups. Mahalo. |
| Absolute Naturists Pastie Lady...Do you think she's a nut case? |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 11, 2012 |
I say God bless her for having the courage to follow her path and beliefs. She is not a nut case, she is fearless and hears a different drum. Those her judge her and condem her are the nut cases. A spirit like that will alwasy be feared and those type of negative actions will always occur. While her actions are not about nudism or promoting nudism, I thought the article was worthy of having a discussion about because it exemplifies the beauty of living life as you believe you want to or need to. We all should have the courage and inner stength to do that. You know, I don't care how old the article is, it was never about that. Stories like this that provide examples of the fire of the human spirit are timeless. |
| Absolute Naturists Pastie Lady...Do you think she's a nut case? |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 10, 2012 |
The Pastie Lady of Ojai... do you think she is a nut case? Here is an article about a woman who lives in Ojai, CA and frequents about this small community in a G-String and pasties. She has been called a nut case and subjected to much negative reactions. Read the article and tell us what you think. This is the url: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pasties26apr26,0,5958228,full.story |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Venturing to Warmer Climes |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 10, 2012 |
Do any of you venture to warmer climate areas in the winter, even for just a weekend? Tell us about it. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Whats new at yor nudist hangout? |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 10, 2012 |
What new at the nudist venues or place that you hang out at? Change is always a good thing. Tell us about it. |
| Absolute Naturists Engage venues to attract the young adults |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 10, 2012 |
This is the same old tired philosphy that the "elderly" nudist resorts keep spouting and the lazy "eldrly" nudists keep saying. It is not the job of AANR or The Naturist Society or any nudist venue to recruit a younger generation of people who may be interested in a nudist lifestyle or nude recreation. It starts at home. The younger people you see coming into the nude venues or particpating in nude living are doing so because of what their parents have taught them about social nudity. If you think putting a X-BOX in a nudist venue is going to bring in the yonger generation you are NUTS. I would bet dollars to donuts that the majority of people in this group or NCH for that matter have not taught the benefits of socal nudity to the kids at home or by example. Most of them are still hiding and afraid to share their enjoyment of social nudity with others, including their family members. Guess what... this is where it starts. Counting on nudist venues to do this job is ridiculous and a cop out. How many of you openly set an example that social and recreational nudity is a healthy and a normal way to live? How many of you openly set an example that there is nothing wrong with socail nudity? How many of you are really open about your desire to live or enjoy social nudity? Not many I would suspect. Stop the tired philosphy talk. The future of social nudity is in your hands, not organizations or venues. So now tell us, what are you doing about this? |
| Absolute Naturists Dreams |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 5, 2012 |
I had a dream the other day that I was sitting in a patio laughig and telling stories with friends having a cold beer and we were all nude....OH, WAIT, that wasn't a dream, we were actually doing that, geez. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism and Obesity |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 29, 2012 |
I think this has been a very good and honest discussion. Yes there have been a few bumps and scrapes along the way but that is what sometimes happens when you have honest discussions. I always prefer to know someones honest feeling about a subject rather than some PC boring gobblygook. That way I know where their head is and I can deal with it as suits me best. This is the manner in which I moderate this group and I tend to believe is what makes it the most popular and active group on NCH. Maybe some of you ought to read the original subject posting again then read our mantra again. If you are offended by this subject you have probably taken this and other subjects personally rather than intellectually. We are here to learn from each other and respect each others opinions and experiences. I think we have done that. |
| Absolute Naturists Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 28, 2012 |
Feels good huh! Just imagine living nude almost all the time. You tend to forget about the need or desire to ever wear clothes. I am living nude all the time except when I have to go outside Natures Resort to like the grocery store or somewhere and then I just toss on a light sundress with nothing underneath. It is almost like still being nude. If I ever get upskirted they will be in for a surprise. |
| Absolute Naturists Introduce Yourself |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 28, 2012 |
We have had lots of new additions to our membership recently. New folks, tell us a little about yourselves... we won't bite (to hard anyway). Also please try to join us on the group chat. We are listening... |
| Absolute Naturists Biggest Issues Facing Naturist/Nudist Community |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 27, 2012 |
What do you think are the biggest issues currently facing the naturist/nudist comunity? |
| Absolute Naturists AN Group Chat... would you particpate? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 27, 2012 |
Well we are going to try this for the first session. Nothing is set in stone. The whole point is to bring us closer together and talk about stuff. Chime in whenever you can. Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists AN Group Chat... would you particpate? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 27, 2012 |
REMINDER: Ok folks, put it on your calendar... Absolute Naturists 1st Group Chat Session: >Tuesday, October 30th, 7pm Pacific US(9pm Central & 10pm Eastern). All you have to do is log into our group and in the group box click on "Group Chat" and it will take you there. I will try to be on a few minutes early. Think of some good stuff to talk about. See you there, I think it will be fun. |
| Absolute Naturists Pets... What role do they play in your life? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 25, 2012 |
We have a kitty, he is in one of my pics. He is part of the family and travels with us everywhere. He is a good little traveler. He is also the entertainment comittee on our boat, yep he loves the boat. He was a rescue cat, about 4 months old when I adopted him, but from the moment he and I first met we were pals and have been through any escapeds since then. I am a cat person. I have had only one dog, a mix chihuahua when I was very young and I loved her very much. I think pets are good for a person. |
| Absolute Naturists Pets... What role do they play in your life? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 24, 2012 |
What role do pets play in your life? Many of us have pets so if you do tell us how they are involved with your life. Thanks. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Big dreams |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 21, 2012 |
I would have a big Texas size party and invite all of you to come get naked. I'll send the Nudie jet to pick you up. |
| Absolute Naturists AN Group Chat... would you particpate? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 21, 2012 |
Ok folks, put it on your calendars: Tuesday, October 30th, 7pm PDT (9pm Central & 10pm EST) Nothing set in stone yet, we will see how it go's. I think it will be fun. If you have any other thoughts we still have a little more than a week to go so speak up please. |
| Absolute Naturists Males Friending Females ONLY... What do you think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 21, 2012 |
Well it looks like I have ruffled a few feathers on my topic posts recently. I have said this group welcomes challenging opinions and discussions. As owner of the group I am not changing that because a a few dented egos. Truenenza, get it right before waving a finger at me. I am clearly on record that the Freinds thing here on NCH is not my thing. Further in my profile I state "RE: NCH Friends- If I want to be your friend... I will ask you and you can decide if you want to be my friend. In short guys, please don't ask.". Obviously you either did not bother to read my profile like all the other men who ask to be my friend almost every day -or- you thought you were on a special list -or- you just didn't care what I said. I did appreciate your sincere note that you sent with the friend request but it did not give you a free pass. I don't believe I ask you if you wanted to be my "NCH Friend". You don't have the negative experiences that I and some of the other women have had in this regard. By reading some of the posts I am obviously not alone in my thinking or rational. This is not about you so quit taking it personally. One more thing, this in not a finger pointing session and I am as free as you are to express my opinion on any topic on any group I am a member of as you have and do. Shall we move on... |
| Absolute Naturists AN Group Chat... would you particpate? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 20, 2012 |
...and a good nickle it is. I would also hope for every woman on Absolute Naturists to participate but we will just have to try it and see who shows up. Appreciate you encouraging the ladies, thanks. |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 20, 2012 |
Triker, I believe what I said was going on a Single's Site with no intention of sincerely wanting to possibly meet someone in the nudist community for a possible relationship was not honest or sincere and for that it was plain dumb. It is what made those sites a joke in my opinion. I didn't think called YOU dumb, but maybe I inadvertently did. I apoligize for that. What I do find interesting is that after I spoke to your comments as I honestly believed them to be, you almost immediately changed your profile to private. I am not sure why but I did find the timing interesting. FireProf, the group co-moderator, has ask you to change it back if you wanted to remain in this group since that is a requirement. You have ignored the request by your own choice which I again find interesting. As the owner of this group I have responsibilities and have made a commitment to each member to apply and adhere to the group rules. If you find me "dumb" for expressing my opinions I accept that, but allowing you to continue in the Absolute Naturists with wilfull contempt and disregard for the rules would definitely be dumb, which I do not believe I am. Goodbye and best wishes. |
| Absolute Naturists AN Group Chat... would you particpate? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 20, 2012 |
Thanks for your inut folks, appreciate it. I am thinking the Last Tuesday of the Month at 7pm Pacific Time (9pm Central /10p Eastern) for like an hour or so chat. What do you think? We can start this month if you like. |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 20, 2012 |
One thing I have learned in my life is "Never say Never", just let things take their course naturally and all will be well. FireProf, I don't think I said go to these sites to find a wife, a compatible companion to enjoy life is plenty good enough. Keeping an open mind to what life lays in your path is part of that equation. I think I was saying that you should just be sincere and honest in whatever you do. To go on a singles site with the absolute attitude that you do not want to change that is not sincere to joining a singles site where people are actually hoping to find a companion. When I joined Single Nudist I was not expecting nor intending to find a husband, it just happened... naturally. |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 19, 2012 |
I think what Triker said, "I personally enjoy being single and want to stay that way." "I figured SN would be a great place to meet even MORE cool and pretty ladies.", is what makes these sites a JOKE. I experienced this attitude from the majority of men on SingleNudist, WTF! If you want to just chat and BS about things you should do it on sites like NCH, not SN. I think most women go to thse sites in hopes of possibly meeting sombody for a possible reltionship. Afterall that is what they are intended for. There are a FEW good men on there (I got one) so ladies don't be totally discourage, just don't waste time on dummies like Triker. Most women can find guys, single or not, to talk to anywhere and anytime. Obviously men like Triker can't so they go to single sites thinking that these women are just aching to talk to them, how stupid is that. Then, if a woman decides not to give the player the time of day they are labeled as "not cool". I think it is the player like Triker that is "not cool". Maybe you should go on match.com to find single people to talk to... hey why not, there are single people there right. How dumb is that. |
| Absolute Naturists Males Friending Females ONLY... What do you think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 18, 2012 |
What is a mack? I think the guys on NCH that do that are fake nudists just wanting to see pictures of nude women and/or get a thrill out of having nude women as friends. They could be homo-phobes as well. In either case, they are stupid and don't belong here. I am considering dumping them from our group as FireProf has advised me. It just feels "icky" to me. They don't do this site any good. ok, anyway as I have said before, I think the whole friending thing on here is just BS. Really, why would I want to be "friends" with somebody I will never meet nor probaby even interestd in meeting. If I want to be your friend, and there are a few, I will ask you and you can decide. I say that on my NCH profile. I still think it is BS, just like Facebook. |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 18, 2012 |
Hey dkk... That was me. I met my husband on Single Nudist. I don't think the Single Nudist site is a joke nor a sex site as the jaundiced rabbitbunny seems to think, but many of the people on it are a joke. Bunch of lonely old men who who are set in their ways and just want to talk about nothing... there is the reason they are single. No matter what, you have to weed through the junk to get to the good stuff if you really are interested meeting somebody. Yes there are women who are hookers on these sites, even this one I am sure just as there are fake nudists. They are part of the junk. I don't know much about other nudist related single sites if there are any. I do know that if you are a female specifically looking for a person to meet that understands social nudity, DON'T Go to the textile oriented sites. Those are loaded with horndogs and idiots. I did that, said I was a nudist, and had 1,500+ men wanting to date me the first day...hmmmm. Go figure, now that is a joke! |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 17, 2012 |
Are nudist singles sites on the internet a joke? At least one of our group members thinks so. What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists How does Positive Social Nudity Bring Harm? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 17, 2012 |
How can it even harm a belief system? I can see where it may move someones cheese in that regard, but harm it... I'm perplexed on that. By the way, I used the word "harm" in the question because that is exactly what the member used in another post. It was not to debate the word. I noticed he has not posted his thoughts here yet...maybe we moved his cheese too! I hope so, it's a good thing. |
| Absolute Naturists Living Nude... Why? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 16, 2012 |
It feels so natural. I don't think anyone can really understand or appreciate it until you live in a place where nudity is the norm. After you do that, clothing just seems insane. I know,I live in a nudist housing venue. |
| Absolute Naturists How does Positive Social Nudity Bring Harm? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 16, 2012 |
How does positive social nudity bring harm, or be percieved to bring harm to anyone? An AN member stated in another topic that as long as his social nudity does not bring harm it is ok. That brought me to wonder, how can the act of simple, positive social nudity bring any harm to anybody. If a nudist thinks he is potentially harming someone by practicing social nudity, is he viewing it as wrong himself -or- is he allowing the perceptions of non-nudists to determine right or wrong for him. Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Males Friending Females ONLY... What do you think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 16, 2012 |
What do you think about men who friend women only here on NCH? I have noticed that there are a number of men who join NCH and they friend ONLY females. What is with this? Personally, and I state this in my profile, I am not a big fan of friending on NCH and I don't get the Facebook thing either. When I see the subject of the topic going on with a fellow wh has ask to be my friend a big red flag go's up in my book. Maybe it is just me, what are your thoughts. |
| Absolute Naturists AN Group Chat... would you particpate? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 15, 2012 |
If we had a Absolute Naturist group chat, woud you be willing to participate? If yes, what day and time would work best for you? I have been thinking about doing this for a while so I would like your input. If you would like to fine, if not that is fine also. I would like a sense of the group before proceeding. Thanks! |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 14, 2012 |
Yeah BUT this topic is about getting pictures develpoed without fear, digital does that, no fuss no muss. BTW, I know a lot of pro's that have witched. Must be some reason for that. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism vs Exhibitionism |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 14, 2012 |
Yes Dawn, I could not agree more with FP and AB, Your Dad said it right, good for him. It woul be nice if we had more "smart asses" like him. To me there is a big difference between social nudity and exhibition and decency. I know a lot of very decent human beings who are nudists. There is nothing wrong with social nudity so why not correct those who do not understand that. Streaking was never about social nudity so I am glad to hear you never fell victim to the double dog dare to do it. That is what many non-nudists think it is about because they never have experienced social nudity. I would double dog dare them to go to a nudist venue with me. In the same light, I find it equally wrong to use social nudity for perceived social causes that have no direct relationship to social nudity. Bay to Breakers is not included in that but the bike rides are in my opinion. Thanks again for an interesting question. I don't feel as strong about making sure I don't answer the door nude because it is how I basically live. Even outside of my nude living environment, people know I am a nudist and I am very comfortable being nude with anyone whether they are nude or not.It is not a big deal to me so why focus on it, just act and be as you would normlly do. It is what they are doing. |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 14, 2012 |
If I may add a few more things besides wagging the finger, being a group owner/moderator is a lot of fun. The job is mainly keeping an energy with interesting topics and good discussions. It is also about keeping the group members engaged in the topics and connected with each other. As group owner, I don't want anyone to think that I or my co-moderator Txbiker are the only ones who add topics. This each group members forum to speak their minds and share their experiences. I invite all of you to do that. Thanks for asking this great question. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Clubs/Resorts in Your Area |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 11, 2012 |
Wow, thanks Triker, good info for me. I am thinking about visiting there and checking it out this winter. I get their newsletter. What is a good month to visit and can you add a little more about Sunsport. Thanks! |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Members: Why did you join this group? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 11, 2012 |
You are welcome OldFrog. We are talking about having some meet-ups sometime in the near future. Check that topic out and give us your thoughts. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Are Texas Nudists different than other nudists? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 11, 2012 |
Are Texas nudists different than other nudists from other states and countries? What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists The Fight for Nudist Rights Has Begun! SIGN THIS PETITION TODAY! |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 9, 2012 |
Who the heck ever made nudists the Nude Police of SF. I don't see the gay community doing anything. Why?...because nudity is about sex for these guys in the Castro. They don't give a F about social nudity like we do. If they did they would not be doing the stupid stuff they are doing and that is bring negativity to the nudity. They are actually hurting us social nudists. C'mon, it is advertising for them and nothing else, geez what is so hard to understand about that. This is another case of the gay male community F'ing things up and we are quick to align them with social nudists. This whole nude in San Fran started once again by the gays in the Castro. I say screw it, make it clear that this whole issue and lewdy problems have nothing to do with us responsible social nudists and let it die on those merits. Maybe someday Nudists CAN OWN IT by taking the lead (not being the tail of the dog) on making social nudity legal in one of the most liberal cities around on a platform of responsibe, respectful and not lewd nudity. We certainly have organizations and data to support that. I think we are missing the balls to make it happen. Lets have the "appropriate place" conversation again. What BS. At this point get a clue... it is not our issue nor our fight. By reacting you are simply falling into the trap of nudists vs. gays fight and missing the bigger picture of demonstrating the merits of social nudity. Sorry, not with you on this one. |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 7, 2012 |
I hear it is still hot over at Natures in the RGV. Everyone is thinking it is going to be that way for a while. I hope so. I am on my way now. |
| Absolute Naturists Living Nude... Why? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 7, 2012 |
Every day that passes I am more convinced that living nude and living in harmony and balance with nature is best way to live. It just gets rid of all the armor and pretense that clothing wraps us in. Once you live nude at the core level you can begin to clearly see and separate the nonsense of the textile mandates whether you are in a situation where you have to cover up or not. The Colina segment with Carina really typifies it. I thought I would bring this up again since we have sooooooo many newer members who have not chimed in on this one. It is an excellent topic. Whether you are new or not, tell us your thoughts please at this point in time.... |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism and Obesity |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 6, 2012 |
Nudony & Armadillo, this a great subject for a different topic post. I think it would be a very good and interesting issue to discuss. Can one of you please think about maybe formulating the question and posting it. Group memebrs, Can we please get back to this topic please? thank you. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism vs Exhibitionism |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 6, 2012 |
Let me see if I can formulate the question you are asking to AN group members: What are your thoughts on Social Nudity (Nudism) vs "Shock Nudity (exhibitionism)"? I believe that is what you are asking and a very good question. Thankyou for posting it. (If I am wrong please correct me. As moderator I try to make it easy for people to understand and answer the topic question.SB) |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudists/Naturists Cool People? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 6, 2012 |
Actually I have met some really down to earth wonderfull people in the nudist community. Some of them are cool also but the one thing to me that make them "cool" is that they are able and allow themselves to be accepting of everybody. Not everybody in the nudist community is accepting of everybody. That is what I was trying to get at earlier. Down to earth does not equal cool. As far as the "cool" nudists, I am not sure if that is a component of their nudity or just their natural character. Maybe it is their character that allows them and their values to be and feel open and accept social nudity as part of their life. In either case, complete acceptance seems to be the key to happiness. It makes the world a brighter and easier place to live in for everybody. Am I wrong? |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists What makes you think you are a Nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 6, 2012 |
What makes you think you are a nudist? Simple question. tell us your thoughts. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism and Obesity |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 6, 2012 |
Thank you all for taking a deep breath and starting to move forward in a more positive fashion. I know it is difficult sometimes and all of our lives are filled with issues that we deal with and work through. I remain hopeful that some of the responses to topics on this group can be a helping piece of a puzzle to things we all deal with dailey. I truly want us all to be supportive of each other and enjoy social nudism as a way of living. Thanks again everybody. Now for a little commentary on the latest responses (sorry I could not resist): Brett: I don't think that was you, really really unless you reversed the ageing process and if you did can you share the secret to doing that. On second thought, forget it, I like my age. Smile, it looks good on you. FireProf: So much for getting back on track, I am just not sure what track you are on. LOL, cause you seemed to address about three (maybe four) different topics here on AN. Good commentary and appreciated. At times like this I seeem to recall a song by the 5th Dimension named Aquarius. Good job Wingman. Sanman: By your posts it was clear to me that you are passionate about healthy living. I have read your suggestions and thoughts carefully but I kept feeling like I was being preached to. Perhaps others did as well. I would encourage you to post a topic that provides an avenue for group members to give their thoughts or experiences on TIPS for leading a healthy lifestyle. That way everybody can share and not just hear from the teacher. We all have experiences, some big some small, but they are all valuable just the same. I think this would be a positive way to address the main thrust of this topic. Give it some thought please. ok, Jedi Master over and out! |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism and Obesity |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 5, 2012 |
ok I give up... some of you just do not get it or better yet do not want to get it. Your choice, whatever. Through one of the other topics on Absolute it was brought to light that the vast majority of people on this group are not even part-time nudists nor have ever been to a nudist venue. The home nudist thing doesn't cut it when you talk about social nudity. I heard clearly what Sunofabeach was getting at when he said you see the extremely overweght people at many nudist venues and in pictures in the AANR Bulletin. Besides living in a nudist venue, I have visited a number of them on extended stays and guess what...I have seen the same type of people. Do I judge them and critize them, no. Do I enjoy seeing people who are extremely over weight for whatever reasons, no. Should I be the enabler and help them justify why they are over weight, no. Beleive me I have heard a lot of justifications. I am pretty good at reading through the BS and a lot of it is BS. When a guy, this is an actual experience, lumbers his 300+ pound body full of stretch marks and discoloration over my head when I am leaning back in a lounge chair poolside, it is disgusting. In that event it was purposeful because he could have easily gone in another direction. Whatever jollies he got, I sure didn't and this is the type of activities that occur. So maybe there is a reason for some hostility towards some of these people. They are disrepectful. Most of the one'e I have encountered were not happy people. I never have an issue (nor judge) with anyone who is over weight as long as the are nice and respectful. I do wish that if they could lead healthier lifstyles they would, but I learned long ago you can't want something more for someone than they want it for themselves. Can we all take a deep breath, drop the personalizing, and just talk about this in an open and positive manner. If you really don't think you can... don't respond please |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudists/Naturists Cool People? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 4, 2012 |
As I have said before, from my actual experience...NO. I live in a nudist reort and some of the people there, from the bible belt mind you, are some of the most bias, prejudice, racist, dumbasses you would ever want to meet. Nudist are people first with all their junk, nudists second. If you watch closely at any nudist resort/venue you will see it. Ever heard of a clique, there where you should start to look first. Birds of a feather... |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism and Obesity |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 4, 2012 |
Lacy, I don't think you know enough about me or the role of a moderator to beat me about my comment of levity of this type of forum not the subject. If you are pissed, you are pissed for the wrong reasons. I don't beleive I have ever told you that you pissed me off, please do not tell me that either. This group is based on challenging discussions because those are what make you think and not to be defensive about or get you pissed about. I believe we learn from being challenged, not from being pissed. Whenever I get pissed about something, I try to understand why I am pissed and I almost always move forward in the context of the issue. I don't need to walk in your shoes nor do I want to. You have not walked in mine either and I don't want you to. That is personalization at the highest level. Topics like this always get very personal and passionate because people want to personalize it with emotions or predjudice. This topic and the one like before that I posted were both clear about it not including health issue. Yet, once again it has entered into the discussion. To me what is trying to be addressed are those people who are overweight or unheathy becasue of choice they make in their lives. I want everyone I meet or befriend to be health and happy. Almost everyone I meet that has extreme weight issues due to their own actions are almost nefver healthy or happy. I do believe that some of these nudists do run to the body acceptance theme because they can bury the actions and not worry or even think about confronting the issues for their OWN good. Ok, they are trying to fell better about themselves but that is just a bandaid and not the solution. Not wearing clothes may even be more comfortable, ok I get that too. Whatever is the case, I don't know and I don't care. I do what I do, they can do what they want to do. I have had snippy comments from some of these people very directly pointed at me and the words were mean and hurtful. I could have very easily stooped to that level in response but I choose to ignore them because that is more powerful. I don't accept their comments and that is my choice. I will probably be around longer than they will, but again that is their decision, not mine |
| Absolute Naturists Colina del Sol, Brazil: A Study of a Naturist Living Comunity |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 2, 2012 |
Possibily... but all the Carina stuff is dated about 5 years back or longer. If anything it sounds like it succumbed to the resort weekend type thing but on a low budget. All the paradise mumbo-jumbo is no longer. heck, I live in a nudist compound during the winter and we walk around nude all the time...but it is a paradise unless you call the ability to walk around nude all the time paradise. I prefer a naturistic type setting that I beleive Colina portrays. Cambium sounds like it is trying to be that but this holistic emphasis is a tunoff to me. Since when did living naturally and nude become holistic. Is that Organic now also... I am not into huggin trees. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism and Obesity |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 2, 2012 |
Blah Blah Blah... I like cookies and I eat them. Ah just having a little fun with y'all. This has been a good, spirted and thought provoking discussion. We have not had one like this in a while. Good job folks, keep it up. This is an issue that has so many viewpoints and representations in the nudist arena. Let's keep going... who have we not heard from??? |
| Absolute Naturists Most Fun While Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 30, 2012 |
Watching pro football! |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 30, 2012 |
I totally agree with you Rabbit. Those folks are just hiding...how dumb. Why are they even here... looky loos I suspect. Delete them Tom! |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 30, 2012 |
Two suggestions: 1) Find several professional photograpers in your area, go see them and explain your situation. They will have answers since they are more use to artsy photographers, You may have to pay more but what are the pics worth to you. 2) Switch to a digital camera. Even the cheaper ones take high quality pics and you can print them yourself. Film for the most part is like vinyl records...long gone. Those pics you have may be as well. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 30, 2012 |
...or is it that you are outside still enjoying the last days of sun and no rain. It has been a unique summer season. What do yo think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 30, 2012 |
There are none to my knowledge. Every place advertises for itself and usually paints a glossy picture. This is why I was asking for first hand info from the folks on the ground. Thanks for bring this up. Anybody else have any ideas. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude with a Movie Star |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 30, 2012 |
Harold & Kumar... now that would be funny, even of it is just the characters they play... dude! |
| Absolute Naturists Colina del Sol, Brazil: A Study of a Naturist Living Comunity |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 30, 2012 |
I heard that it had pretty much folded. See: http://www.nudistday.com/article/visit-to-colina-do-sol-in-brazil.html The info on it, other than Carina, is very spotty. If it is live and well, are they intentionally keeping it under the radar? Something doesn't make sense. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism and Obesity |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 30, 2012 |
Thanks for bringing this subject up again. Last time on my topic "Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists" I was essentially getting at the same thing except my title was more upfront. However in your intro commentary you said basically the same thing. I still see grossley obese people in the nudist community fairly frequently, as well as in the AANR Bulletin. It is what it is. Nudists need to get more healthy. Stop the dieting yoyo. Exercise and portion based healthy eating will do it. Oh yeah, one other thing..discipline and desire to live. |
| Absolute Naturists Colina del Sol, Brazil: A Study of a Naturist Living Comunity |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 29, 2012 |
Let's have a discussion on Colina del Sol in Brazil. It is no longer in operation I believe. It was to be a Naturist Living self sustaining community. It folded. What happened? If all of you can do your own research, develop your own theories and share your thoughts with all of us that would be super great. I decided to try this topic in hopes that maybe we can all learn something from it's experience, both good and not so good. Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists A Nudist's Home is a Nudist's Castle...maybe. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 26, 2012 |
Nudony... oh please, "I respect your viewpoint, SB; I only wish you would respect those people that have to make "accomodations" in return." I say what I say because it is what I believe and do. I beleive making accomodations is the same as living my life to other peoples standards of living. To me that is not the way to live, better yet it is a waste of your life. As far as respect, by allowing folks to say what they say and believe is total respect of them as individuaals at the highest level, especially in forums like this where I could easily censor almost anything. To me, respect is not about agreeing, coddling or regurgitating the heard mentality, it is about allowing and promoting individuality to be expressed without repercussion and staying open to others words, thoughts and ideas... and I think I do a darn good job of that. Your milage may vary. |
| Absolute Naturists How We Talk About Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 26, 2012 |
A few years back I fell into the trap of saying what social nudity was not almost right off the bat. Nowdays I almost never go there unless I have to debunk a comment or belief. Looking back at how I use to respond with what it wasn't I see that it was my way of saying that I wasn't a nympho or perv or anything like that. I was always trying to justify myself to the non-nudists as being just like one of them. Then I realized that many of these textile non-nudists that I thought to be upstanding community members had more sexual hangups and deviant issues, probably due to sexual repression, than I was even close to. I stopped trying to justify myself to them. I realized how dumb that was. Since then, I do my thing and they can keep on doing their thing. When ask specifically about social nudity or nude recreation, I just smile and say that it is a honest, open and naturally happy way of living and enjoying life for anybody. Try it, you will like it. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Winterizing? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 25, 2012 |
Are we winterizing yet? What is the best way to do this and still enjoy social nudity. Please share. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Members: Why did you join this group? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 25, 2012 |
Simple question: Why did you join this group? To make this group more relevant to it's current and future members, I would like to know why you joined the Texas Nudist group? What are you interested in? What would get you to participate in discussions on a regular basis? Don't be shy... tell me please. As the new owner of the group, this would be very helpful and I would definitely appreciate your input. In my experience, to make groups like this successful and beneficial to all it's members... people need to participate. Relevant topics are what stimulate conversation. This is how participation happens. ok folks (ALL MEMBERS), tell us all what you are thinking? Remember: Deadwood serves no purpose other than maybe good fire wood. |
| Absolute Naturists How We Talk About Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 25, 2012 |
When you talk about social nudity, do you say what it is -or- what it is not? In a recent article I read, the comment was made by a long time nudist that when nudists speak about social nudity to a non-nudist it invaribly includes or sometimes even starts out with what we are not verses what we are. That would be like we are not swingers, perverts, sex mongers, flashers, molesters... so forth and so forth. Somewhere in the conversation a positive may be included. The point this nudist was making was that we seem to put the negative before the positive which can skew the conversation in a negative direction. Let's talk about this. |
| Absolute Naturists A Nudist's Home is a Nudist's Castle...maybe. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 25, 2012 |
This group is "For people that want to be and live nude", not apologize and make as many accomodations and exceptions for their social nudity as they possibly can. How does change occur or even begin to occur? Most of what I am reading here is right in line with the "appropriate places" garbage. Now you are not even sure if your own home is an appropriate place... geez. Why do you let others run your life? |
| Absolute Naturists A Nudist's Home is a Nudist's Castle...maybe. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 24, 2012 |
In my castle I choose to be as I want to be. Since I am very open about my practice of social nudity and nude living, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. I don't run around like a maniac when someone comes to the door or to visit. This was true even before I lived in a nudist resort (colony as I believe to be more correct) half the year. On the boat, be it on the dock or out on the water I will choose to be nude as I desire. Again, I don't run around trying to cover up like a maniac when someone comes aboard to visit or anchors nearby. It is my domain, my castle, my appropriate place. They can choose if it is their appropriate place based on their sensibilities. I respect them on their turf, they respect me on my turf. Simple as that. I am not lonely either Rabbit. Seems like most of you are more concerned on what or how others will judge you or think of you based on their standards of correct living. Do you really think you have a mental illness for enjoying social nudity? Do you think your social nudity is offensive? I think you do if you feel you have to do cover up things anytime "friends" visit. By doing so you are only perpetuting the belief that social nudity is wrong and perverted. The story about the woman who was nude in her home is a good one. She got it, her friends didn't. They chose to judge her by their standards not her's. Now isn't that the real problem of that equation. Rabbit & Jim, I post when I choose to post, just like you do. In Absolute Naturists there is a reason I don't post immediately on my topics. If you look over most of the topics I have posted, I rarely give my opinion right off the bat. Why... so that there is no bias enter into the topic by me. I am interested in hearing what you are thinking, I know what I think. By not entering a bias into this sharing we have the opportunity to gain perspectives from other member's ideas or experiences. This is what a group like this is about. This is the member's soapbox, not SunBunny's. That's the way it is and will be under my ownership. It seems to be a successful formula for moderating the group. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Important Texas Nudist Issues... what are they? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 23, 2012 |
Do you think that there are there any specific issues that are important/relevant to Texas nudists or Texas nudist resorts/venues? |
| Absolute Naturists I love to be nude because.... |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 23, 2012 |
I love to be nude because... it is the real me, no cover ups, no pretenses. Very empowering! |
| Absolute Naturists A Nudist's Home is a Nudist's Castle...maybe. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 23, 2012 |
Do you think that a Nudist's home should be their castle with all the nude living priviledges or at least the ability to be nude whenever they want no matter what? Did a king ever ask if he could act as a king in his own castle, of course not. Then why do we feel a need to ask if it is ok to be a nudist in our own homes. Think about it... then tell us your answer. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Best thing about eating TX style BBQ when you are nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 21, 2012 |
What is the best thing about eating good ole' Texas BBQ when you are nude? Any funny stories? Go for it folks! |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts How About a Texas Meet-Up? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 21, 2012 |
I will start working on it. Any other places folks? |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Fun things to do nude in Texas? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 20, 2012 |
What do you think are the most FUN things to do nude in Texas? C'mon, jump in and tell us what you do that's fun, thanks! |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 19, 2012 |
Thanks for the comment Sanman. BTW, good to have you back posting again. Anybody else havve any thoughts or info? Please chime in. |
| Absolute Naturists Winter Nudity... what do you do? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 17, 2012 |
Yep, we do the same thing. We winter in south Texas and it is almost always warm, even at night. All the pools are heated, sometimes the volleyball pool gets to hot. It gets cold in WA so why the heck stay there. |
| Absolute Naturists Are you different when nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 17, 2012 |
Actually I am a little grumpy when I am dressed and don't tend to smile as much and tend to get things all sideways. I know this is a backwards way of answering the question but I am at the Toyota dealer getting our car ready for the long trip back to Texas and I am dressed... go figure. When I am nude I am a happy smiley person. I guess I feel real so yes I am different when I am nude. |
| Absolute Naturists Winter Nudity... what do you do? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 17, 2012 |
When Winter is upon us, there is a chill in the air and maybe snow on the ground... what do you do? Tell us what you are thinking or planning on doing this Winter. Thanks! |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Lone Star Resort? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 17, 2012 |
Anyone have any first-hand info on Lone Star Resort? It looks nice on the website. I might like to visit there this winter. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts How About a Texas Meet-Up? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 17, 2012 |
I can host one over at Natures Resort this winter. Their facilities get a little tight because so many people come down and hang out all winter but you could always "camp-out" in our patio. The nights are warm. Interested? OK, that's two places so far, Star Ranch and Natures Resort. Anybody else have a suggestion? |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Where to be Nude in Texas |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 17, 2012 |
Thanks Kijad! Can you (please please pretty pllease)give us a first hand critique of both Star Ranch and Armadillo? Members might like to hear it, I know I would. Anyone else have info on other resorts? |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Nude Snow Skiing |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2012 |
Have you ever snow skied nude? |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts How About a Texas Meet-Up? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2012 |
Thought I would bring this to the surface again. I think it would be fun if we could have some meet-ups. Any suggestions to make it happen? |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Group Challenge & New Group Owner Introduction - Hi Y'all! |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2012 |
I am throwing out a challenge to all you Texas nudists and resorts to share what you think is the best way to enjoy being nude in Texas. C'mon... go for it! I also wanted to take this opportunity to introduce myself as the new group owner of NCH's Texas Nudists and Resorts. Some of you may know of me from Absolute Naturists here on NCH. I welcome all open, honest, interesting, and challenging discussions and sharing of information on social nudity. Being a resident in the Rio Grande Valley and living in a nudist resort I really enjoy the uniqueness that Texas has to offer us nudists. Please feel free to post topics of interest to you. Let's make this group one of the best on here. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Where to be Nude in Texas |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2012 |
Where do you think is the BEST place to be nude in Texas and why? Please share. (actully list as many as you like) |
| Absolute Naturists I like to use the term "naked" over nude.. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 14, 2012 |
Wayne, I don't need to relax and I think you missed the point of EVERYTHING I said. This is NOT about dictionary meanings... it is about perceptions. The word Naked has a negative connotation when applied to what nudists strive for and enjoy. I don't just wander around the woods naked like some lunatic when I go for a nude hike. People who do not understand or appreciate social nudity would probably view as exactly doing that and being that. Wayne, I think you need to get some sun and stop relaxing naked in your house. Lacey, agree with you up to the point "to each is own" because what they do could very well impact me, especally when they are clueless and speak with ignorant bias. If we become complacent in what we say and do, social nudity will have a difficult time getting a toehold with the textiles. |
| Absolute Naturists I like to use the term "naked" over nude.. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 14, 2012 |
Ya know... I think the word NAKED is bad for nudists. Cheri stated in another topic, "Being nude (not naked as naked has a vulnerability component) enables me to feel a bit healthier.". I totally agree with her. Yeah, we can laugh and kid using the naked word around other nudists like I did earlier in this thread but I think we forget when you talk to non-nudist your words speak for all nudists and we really should be more careful. We have no reason to put ourselves in a place of vulnerability so why do it. Words are powerful. Don't forget it. |
| Absolute Naturists Giving Ourselves Permission to Live Naturally |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 14, 2012 |
Anybody new care to comment on this older but very relevant topic? Are there any changes of thought from those who have been around for a while? Any advice or new experiences. Please share. |
| Absolute Naturists Comparing the Old and the New |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 14, 2012 |
I really do yearn for the simpler times of the past. The nude business seems to have gotten very complicated nowdays. Sombody is sueing, somebody is complaining, somebody wants high quality, somebody wants a pool and jacuzzi,somebody does not want kids around, somebody wants wants wants wants...geez, all this BS sometimes takes the enjoyment out of social nudity. I am sure there were struggles back then but people seem to enjoy the ability to just be nude with folks that enjoyed social nudity. This is what I find most interesting when I compare the two. To me we have traveled so far yet so wrong in so many ways. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Nude Beaches in Texas Updates |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 14, 2012 |
Well I guess we can assume them there magazine folks ain't from Texas... dummies. As soon as I get back in October I am going to investigate the situation on the So Padre beach. |
| Absolute Naturists I love to be nude because.... |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 13, 2012 |
Hey Cheri, thanks for reminding me about how much I love to be nude with our outdoor shower in TX. We live at the nudist club Natures Resort in te winter months so what happens is you just walk in, shower (or even cool down shower), step out and air dry... it is the best. |
| Absolute Naturists Are you different when nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 13, 2012 |
Do you act/think differently when you are nude? Please share with more than a yes or no, thanks. |
| Absolute Naturists Living a Nudist/Naturist Life ONLINE? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 13, 2012 |
Wow, some good answers, thanks and much appreciated. You all know I am nude a lot and live it a bunch so I tried to put myself in the ONLINE only mode of thinking to try to grasp how I viewed it. It does not come close or as liberating as being nude in the outside world whether it be by yourself or with others. However and with that said, it has provided me the ability to meet and network with some wonderful people who are nudists/naturists from within the USA and around the world. It has provided me with the foundations to form friendships with some super people. The perspectives and cultures we have shared have been very educational. My viewpoints and understandings of social nudity have become more balanced and rounded. It's a good thing. In addition, it is a powerful tool for information for someone starting to explore social nudity. This is somethng I did not have in my early years. As I said it is a good thing, BUT don't get stuck in just being ONLINE, you will miss a lot. |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts What is a C-O B&B... a B&B or a Mini-Resort? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 12, 2012 |
Now really, What is a C-O B&B? Is it a regular B&B or a C-O Mini-Resort? Most B&B's I am familiar with and have read about are "overnighters" where you can get a little more relaxed homey night stay while traveling or visiting somewhere. There is not an expectancy of a lengthy visit. Most do not have a 2 or more night minimum which does not work for many travelers. So again, what are they really? |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts Pet Friendly |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 12, 2012 |
Considering I am a cat person, dogs are not high on my list of greeting pets. Inevitably, when I encounter dogs they want to be petted and loved...but they want to lick me and rub on me, not high on my list of desirable things either. Cats are different. Most usually just sleep and mind their own business. If some could talk they would tell you to get lost and leave them alone. They are very independent, tht is why I like them. They don't poop on the lawn either. For me, except for allergy concerns, cats are acceptable, dogs are not. |
| Absolute Naturists Living a Nudist/Naturist Life ONLINE? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 12, 2012 |
In what ways does this site allow you to live and benefit from social nudity? What benefits do you derive from being a ONLINE nudist/naturist? Simple honest answers appreciated. Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 12, 2012 |
The responses to this topic really shed light on the responses we get on other topics. Seems like there are a lot of you who would like to be nude but don't make the effort to be nude for whatever reasons. this would beg the question, are you really a nudist/naturist OR just like to be naked. Would you read it different? |
| Absolute Naturists Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 5, 2012 |
Any new thoughts or opinions on this subject? Please jump in... |
| Absolute Naturists What brought you here? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 5, 2012 |
Once again please... New members, go for it! We have many new members since this last surfaced. How about you folks who have been here a while, any new thoughts or changes in any way? |
| Absolute Naturists Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 4, 2012 |
Excellent! When you think like that it just becomes another thing you do, like brushing your teeth. Do you know anybody that gets excited, catagorizes or need to talk incessantly about brushing their teeth... my point. Went for a long kayak trip this morning nude, just me and nature as the morning sun was rising and warming... unbelievebly wonderful and natural. Parks Bay, WA. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism...one size fits all? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 31, 2012 |
yes it does make sense... afterall we all individuals and thats where the sea parts. Nudity is nudity, weather it is for an hour or for a day, weather it be social or private. To my view and my intent with this group has nothing to do with one size, it is about the true appreciation, understanding and enjoyment of being nude. If you do this, living nude will be just an extension when you are able. Fireprof, have a cold beer please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 31, 2012 |
How do pets fit into the equation of a Nudist B&B? This applies to both operators and guests. Is it a plus or minus? |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts Location, Location, Location |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 31, 2012 |
Very good info, thanks. I guess I always thought of it in a resort type mentality but what you said makes so much sense. This really opens the door to my thinking and hopefully others. We need more place like this. ok, you asked for it... another question for another topic. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist-Chicken or Nudist-Egg... which came first? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 31, 2012 |
Is the doubling of words using "nudist" a positive or negative for social nudity and if it is going to be done where should the emphais be (i.e. Nudist-Chicken or Chicken-Nudist)? In another topic the doubling up of words was mentioned like nudist-swinger or gay-nudist or nudist-biker, so forth and so forth. On the surface it would appear that the word nudist is being used to gain attention for marketing or justify a behavior choice. Maybe yes, maybe no. Good, bad, neither, hmmm. It's a good question, what do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism...one size fits all? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 31, 2012 |
Ah, ok got it(cleaned up a couple of words also,hope you don't mind). I think that is exactly what I was getting at in another topic. So in essence what most of you are saying and in agreement with is that there is no such thing as a single pattern of nudist or one-size-fits-all. yes/no or am I down a wrong path. |
| Absolute Naturists Comparing the Old and the New |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 30, 2012 |
Please scan through the "ASA Days" group topics/pictures of nudist history and then tell us how you think that compares with how social/recreational nudity is practiced today. |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts Location, Location, Location |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 30, 2012 |
What can you do to judge or determine, without going to considerable expense, if your location is a good location for a potential Clothing-Optional B&B? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism...one size fits all? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 30, 2012 |
Eventhough I did not comment on Jansen's post, I also agree with his viewpoints and think he has it nailed down pretty well. Not sure what Rabbit is talking about. As I see it, our beliefs determine our actions which make our choices. You and only you are responsible for that and the consequences there of. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 29, 2012 |
I too enjoy the pictues of history and the styles of those times. More so than the hairdos, I find the naturalness of their nudity very refreshing. It is so easy to get caught up in the fashions, styles and body modification syndromes we are faced with nowdays. Every time I think about doing something to my body, I look at these pics and I revert back to the beauty of naturalness and dump the thought. Thanks for posting these Andy. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism...one size fits all? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 29, 2012 |
If there is such a thing, I have never seen it! Would it be nice if there was a "one size fits all for nudists"? Would it be nice to have a "Nudist Manual" to follow? I hope we all smart enough to know that either one of those will never happen and thank goodness for that. I also think we all know that "like minded" is a crock of you know what in the social nudity arena. If we stop perpetuating ideas like this we stop perpetuating the pressures to be a "correct" nudist or play social nudity correctly according to Hoyle. Just be yourself and enjoy life. |
| Absolute Naturists Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 29, 2012 |
In the Simply Living Nude topic thread I said: "I think the actuality of "Living Nude" may be the goal for many but the actual transition from a believed need for clothing to the realization that clothing is not needed is the start of simply living nude and where the paradiagm shift occurs in mindset that makes it normal. Nudity is no longer a focal point of existence, it just is.". What I am hearing from many of you is that you are still holding on to the state of mind that you can only be extended nude if you go to a nudist venue. I bet most of you have never allowed yourself to be nude at home for extended time periods. The focus seems always to be on going somewhere that ALLOWS YOU to be nude verses ALLOWING YOURSELF to be nude where you want and can. Further, this thread clearly demonstrates how much of a focal point is placed on nude time in our lives verses just being nude. As I said before, it's a mind set. |
| Absolute Naturists Should I should I not invite my ex GF? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 29, 2012 |
As you can tell by the posted messages to your topic, nudist are always willing to help out as they can if you ask. Given this, I think if you read the responses to many of the topics revolving around issues like this here on NCH you will find a wealth of experienced advice to help you with your quest. Seems to me that you ought to think about fixing the homefront before trying to get an "Ex" who is a non-nudist with body acceptance issues to go to a nudist venue that you have even not been honest about going to or wanting to go to yourself. Get my drift... While this group is not intended to be an Ann Landers column or marital/relationship counseling session, I do appreciate you asking. I also appreciate group members for their heartfelt responses. I have decided to let it remain here because I think your request speaks to the issues that many persons wanting to live or share their social nudity are confronted with yet are stumbling or being held back by things such as your dilemma or fear of loss. How do you group members see it? |
| Absolute Naturists Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 27, 2012 |
Let me seee, hmmmm, I live in a nudist resort (Natures Resort) in TX 6 months of the winter, I have a home in a nudist park (LARC) in WA for the summer months, I cruise on the boat nude all the time in WA (see the pics)... I guess outside of those times when you have to go to the store or other textile required event.... all the time. It becomes very difficult to put on clothes when you live like I do. For the record, I am never "naked", I am "nude" and to me there is a big difference. |
| Nude Photographers The DORK Look of Self-Portraits |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 26, 2012 |
Is there a technique or method that you have used to not look like a DORK in your self-portraits? Another member mentioned this in a post that in many of his self-portraits he comes out looking like a dork. I use a few tricks with body placements that seem to work. You can see them in my "Me and My Kitty" and "On the Rocks" photos. I'll let you figure them out. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 26, 2012 |
Hi exbrit, Yep it's there... " A Lovely View", just checked. It's just my legs leading out towards the shore. No Tan Lines is a good one also with shadowing. I agree about the glass and what made this one tougher is that it is acrylic so it has scratches which pick up light(we don't use much glass on the boat). That is why I tried my best just to let in a hint of light to brighten the cognac and the rest of the image visually leading away from the glass. It's always an experiment, shoot and learn. I love digital. I look at your blinds and have seen many others like that. I agree that the shadowing can bring a different dimension to the image. PS: Think about joining the Absolute Naturists group. I would love to have you on there. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 26, 2012 |
Lately I have been using a little Canon ELPH 310 HS Powershot. It is a great little camera and has features to take some very high quality photos. It works for me because of it's size, menu set-ups, and ease of use. I like to take photos in natural surrounding and very spontaneous one time view sort of things. It works for this and I can take it easily anywhere I go. All my latest pictures on NCH have been taken with it. |
| Nude Photographers Self-Portraits |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 26, 2012 |
The self-portraits that I take are the artsy-fartsy type. I like them to portray a feeling that others can apply to their own circumstance. I have just posted two new photos that are exactly what I am talking about. They are "A Lovely View" and "Cognac Naturally". It's me in both shots. Check them out and tell me what you think. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Nude Beaches in Texas Updates |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 26, 2012 |
Does anyone have updated info on the nude beaches in Texas? We will be returning soon and I would like to visit some. I will probably adventure out to South Padre's beach since it is the close. Talk to me please. Maybe we can even get some beach parties going. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Wine Country Bares |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 26, 2012 |
Anybody have any news or info on this non-landed club starting up again? Any info or contact would be apprciated. Supporting AANR-NW clubs is a good thing. |
| Northwest Nudists Wine Country Bares |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 26, 2012 |
Hi Roddy, I read that to. I don't know much about the group but if I hear anything I will post it. You might want to contact the AANR-NW Region folks, the new President is really trying to link folks up. I know that she is on NCH because she is part of my other group, Absolute Naturists. The wines around here are pretty good. |
| Absolute Naturists I love to be nude because.... |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 24, 2012 |
I love to be nude because... well,because I love to be nude. Hey Detach, only 10 years younger, I'm good with that. |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 24, 2012 |
Thankyou Jim. You are absolutely correct in all you say. You are a much appreciated member of this group and to social nudity. |
| Absolute Naturists Your Nudist Story |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 24, 2012 |
We have many new members since the last posting on this topic. I thought it might be a good time to resurrect it. All you new folks, please share... thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists I love to be nude because.... |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 24, 2012 |
... it makes me smile! |
| Absolute Naturists Who should nudist fear most? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 24, 2012 |
To boldly cut thru the chaff, Fear itself. When you quit your fear, you stop the phobia, you stop the negative vibe and all becomes a non-issue and we live our lives as WE choose. It is about as simple as that. I use a Spider Analogy when thinking about this sort of thing. I don't like spiders and it use to drive me crazy when I saw one. I would run around looking for killer spray, try to swat them with a fly swatter, call the orkin man, do whatever I could to eradicate them...all crazy stuff because I feared them. Now I just let them live where they want to be and let them eat the bugs they catch in their webs. I still don't like them but I have allowed myself to learn to live with them and not fear them. It's a peaceful co-existence. Like what we are trying to achieve as nudists. |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 24, 2012 |
That is very true C-O and I totally agree. This topic was not about joining NCH as a premium member, it was about memberships in AANR and/or TNS. In a like vain anyone who supports nudist/naturist oriented businesses are also helping to support the community that supports them. Ever heard of TANR? Anyway, it's all good. By the way, Jim... I am sooooo glad to hear you are going to join AANR and/or TNS. They both provide their members with excellent publications that just may assist you on the homefront. I think of all our group members you are the one who has has allowed their cheese to be moved the most. I don't think you will ever regret it. I am very happy for you and I appreciate you being part of Absolute Naturists. |
| Absolute Naturists I love to be nude because.... |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 23, 2012 |
I love to be nude because... (end this sentence/statement with your ONE (and only one) most sincerest, soul searched, heartfelt, reason that fits your feelings (not thinking) best). Let's hear from everybody on this one, thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 23, 2012 |
Ya' know, I keep hearing some of you folks say that you can't afford to join either of these organizations. Is it really that? Do you know that you can join AANR for less than the cost of a carton of cigarettes? I am thinkin' that maybe you just don't want to be directly associated with a nudist organization yet want to enjoy the fruits of their labor. If I told you that you could join AANR for a year for only $42( thats less than 12cents a day), would you join? yes/no/other As for me, as I have said before, I belong to both AANR and TNS... I support those who support me. |
| Absolute Naturists Do you consider Nudism a Hobby? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 23, 2012 |
My point was not to debate how the group member used the term "hobby" but rather the mindset of hobbyism that was applied to the act of social nudity. I have never viewed social nudity as a hobby since for me it is a way of living and preferred lifestyle as is boating. Some would call boating a hobby, I don't, it is a preferred lifestyle for me. Hence the topic question. My curiosity was raised by applying the term hobby to social nudity which I never thought of before and so I was interested in hearing how others viewed it in their realms of existence, that's all. As for me, I see it social nudity is a good thing no matter what you call it. |
| Absolute Naturists Do you consider Nudism a Hobby? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 22, 2012 |
Do you consider the practice of social nudity (nudism) a hobby? In a recent post on another topic a group member said "I have too many expensive hobbies already. I'm not making nudism another one." which has lead me to post this topic. So my curiosity has been raised, tell us what you think about this? (Don't be shy on this one...go for it!) |
| Absolute Naturists My experience with a misconception |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 22, 2012 |
SEX is always the biggest misconception than non-nudists have about the going'ons at nudist venues. Why not, that relate nudity with sex, duhhh. One of my many experiences with this that sticks in my mind is one time when I was briefly managing a nudist resort during an ownership change over and I was asked to contact a photographer to take new marketing photos. I brought in a friend that was a professional photographer but not a nudist. He came and spent 2 days taking pictures and soaking up the environment to frame the environment while guests relaxed. He commented to me that he was sort of blown away in that it was just like a regular resort with people doing all the same thing as a textile resort, except they were all nude. It moved his cheese for sure. He also later told me that when he got back to his hometown, all his friends kept asking what it was like to be in a place where everybody was having sex everywhere... to which he laughed and told them it was no different than any other resort and NOBODY was having sex ANYWHERE. He said they were a little (some very) disappointed that nothing juicie occured.... of well, maybe it moved their cheese also. |
| Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 22, 2012 |
Lacey, Then what you are saying is that IF the POLE is in the gym or exercise room of a nudist club, then it is ok...BUT, if it is any place other than that then it is NOT ok, right? As an aside, I don't think I have ever been to a nudist "fun" function where drinking was not occuring, even if not in excess. This being the case, how does that impact your opinion. To me, it is not about the dancing with the pole, it is about how you dance with the pole. It is like drinking, drinking is ok, getting drunk is not. My bottom line is that we are adults, we should be able to have adult fun and we should be able to ACT like adults when doing so. Sometimes I think we get to caught up on political correctness and BibleBelt BS. Lifes short, have fun. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Go Topless Day Seattle |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 22, 2012 |
August 26, 2012 2pm to 4pm Westlake Plaza, 4th & Pine. Are you going to go? |
| Nude Photographers Profile Photos |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 18, 2012 |
Tom, as the Group Owner you have every right to set the standards for membership in your group. Asking for a profile pic should not be a big deal. My advice is be flexibly consistent, but consistent. If these folks have any photography background or expereince this should not be a issue. Thanks for letting me join your group. |
| Absolute Naturists The Nudist Click Moment |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 18, 2012 |
I would tend to believe that we all had one or more of these moments in our lives. Can we get some of our new members to chime in on this topic. Please share,thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists Go Topless Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 18, 2012 |
Ugh! T-M-I... Jus'kiddin, I am looking forward to seeing that pic. I think this should be a challenge. Any other fellas willing to match FireProf? |
| Absolute Naturists My experience with a misconception |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 18, 2012 |
Good Job Lacey! It is always fantastic to hear someone not be afraid to stand up and set folks straight. We need more of you. Also thanks for you first topic post, it's a good one. Anyone else have any experiences dealing with misconceptions? |
| Absolute Naturists Go Topless Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 18, 2012 |
That would work... Actually supporting a cause like this is not only a one day thing, that is done for media attention and focus. We all can and should support this cause everyday in what we say and do. The same applies to social nudity. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 18, 2012 |
I tend to think you would find as many men being shirtless as women in a grocery store which is probably very few if any... that's not the point. The point is that a woman would not be arrested for taking her top off wherever and whenever she want, just like men do. That is equality. There would be no need to make political and social statements about being topless, it just would be. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 14, 2012 |
Thank you for all the fantastic comment. I truly appreciate it as well as your on going support and participation in the Absolute Naturists group. Anyone else? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 14, 2012 |
August 26, 2012.... here is your chance to publicly support the equality cause in any way you can. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 14, 2012 |
Dang! Does this mean I have to put a bottom on... ah geez. Jus' Kiddin. Thanks for posting this Rabbit. We had a very lively and supportive discussion on this previously (Topless Equality, check it out) so I hope that many of you can participate and really support the cause. I am going to try to make the Seattle protest. In any event, I will be Topless (probably nude since we are on the boat in South Sound WA) wherever we are at in supportive hope that we can someday soon have equality in this respect. It just seems so crazy not to. I think it would be really cool if all our Absolute Naturist female members could post a topless picture and the men post a picture with a bikin top on to support he cause. Shall we try it? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 13, 2012 |
It is time we here from all our new members (say in the last 3 months) on this topic. I really like to know what you are thinking and what brings you here. As far as those of you that have been with us for some time, the same applies to you. Have your thoughts changed? Would you like to lend a few words about the group to our newcomers. Everybody, please chime in on this so we can continue to make it a valuable asset for you here on NCH. Thanks! SB |
| Northwest Nudists Black Ties & Heels at LARC |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 12, 2012 |
LARC is in Mount Vernon, WA. Go to LARC website for info. This is coming up again this year. Saturday, Aug 18, 2012 Go! I think you can still get in. **** IMPORTANT NOTICE to all LARC Members & Friends Time is running short for the 3rd Annual Black Ties & Heels Dinner and Dance Saturday, August 18, 2012 Cocktails at 6:30pm Salmon or Steak Dinner at 7pm Dancing at 8pm Candlelight to Rockin' Dance Music for your enjoyment Advance Tickets are only $10 (purchase by Aug 12) Don't miss a wonderful evening of Fun, Food and Dancing. >RSVP Immediately to Keith S. at scottsallnatural@gmail.com |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Black Ties & Heels at LARC |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 12, 2012 |
This is coming up again this year. saturday, Aug 18, 2012 Go! IMPORTANT NOTICE to all LARC Members & Friends Time is running short for the 3rd Annual Black Ties & Heels Dinner and Dance Saturday, August 18, 2001 Cocktails at 6:30pm Salmon or Steak Dinner at 7pm Dancing at 8pm Candlelight to Rockin' Dance Music for your enjoyment Advance Tickets are only $10 (purchase by Aug 12) Don't miss a wonderful evening of Fun, Food and Dancing. RSVP Immediately to Keith S. at scottsallnatural@gmail.com |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 12, 2012 |
Really!...I mean really, are we not having any fun here in the NW? Summer is here, all 2 days at least. Tell us about any fun you have encountered. The Music Fest at LARC was fun, it's called Rockin'the Park and is always the last weekend in July. They are busy lining up bands for next year. We are crusing the South Sound this season, getting in some nude time on the boat. It is a lot more populated but everyone we have mentioned the Nude places we are associated with have been very open and accepting, even a little curious. C'mon folks... tell us what you are up to. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 11, 2012 |
Hill_Billy, in your explanation you used a very telling word... Caught. When you get caught doing something it is usually a bad thing of some sort and a expression guilt. In my thinking you need to work on yourself before working on them or you will get CAUGHT with your pants down. Not good. |
| Absolute Naturists Promoting Naturist / Nudist Living |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 11, 2012 |
To answer a previous question, this post is about promoting naturist/nudist LIVING, not clubbing. That is what this group is about. I regard clubs/resorts as recreation not living. Believe it or not, there is a difference. As FireProf has spoken to, your own words are worth much more than an article... just like advertising. So what have you done to promote Naturist/Nudist Living? |
| Absolute Naturists Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 7, 2012 |
To get back to the original question I posted for discussion, I never said there was anything wrong with full frontal nudity in a PROFILE picture. I said CROTCH Shots where the emphasis was obviously being placed on the (gasp, good one CO-Home) penis. Actually, I don't see the need for a full nude pic anyway, this is a nudist site and we should not need auditions. Look at some of the pics of members in this group, or even me for that matter... it is a head shot and that gives you the visual of who I am. (we are not talking about the group picture which is intended to make a different statement) My point is that a picture is worth a thousand words an speaks volumes. If we all, as nudists/naturists, put that thought before posting a public PROFILE picture on here it would undoubtly go a long way to separating the wheat from the chaffe. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 6, 2012 |
I guess it depends on what point you are trying to make. As the old addage goes, you will always attract more bees with honey than vinegar. I agree with Nudony,there are many shades to the question and there is not a single answer. The point you are trying to make I think is that there is nothing wrong with social nudity. So teach them that first before giving the final exam. Some people are open to learning and some are not. That's just the way it is. |
| Absolute Naturists Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 5, 2012 |
Fricken-A-Right... I totally agree Wayne. Your words are exactly what I think. Let me repeat them "The crotch photos in my opinion belong in the photo album section. Finally our posture in photos should be similar to the way we would look at a nudist venue." Fricken Amen! I am not sure how protectd the sight is since anybody can access it and every post can be picked up in a search SO for that "Fricken" reason we should try to be positive examples of social nudity. Most of the guys I have seen look like they are posing for the gay audience anyway. Is that what you all want on this site? I don't. Quit trying to be so "fricken" politically correct, it hurts social nudity for us real ones. |
| Absolute Naturists Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 2, 2012 |
Rabbit, we are talking about Profile Pictures. I looked thru many female profiles and I didn't find any crotch shots, only suggestive ones which I named some. Maybe you are looking at the additional pictures that some women have added within their profiles... you know those pictures that you have to really search for. Maybe you should name the "dozens" of female crotch shots in the Perv Bait topic for us so Brian can look into it. Are you good with that also? |
| Absolute Naturists Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 2, 2012 |
What do you think about the Male Crotch Shot profile pictures on NCH? This post came as a result to a message sent to me regarding the "Perv Bait Women" post. The sender felt that this was an equally negative factor on NCH. Most of the posts of this nature by men have blank profiles. I would have to agree that by posting a picture accentuating the male penis with or without a completed profile is the same in concept. To Brian's credit, the number of such pictures were actually much fewer than before as with the females. He has a tough job in this regard but seems to be doing good. Here are a few profile examples I came up with: > Williamb > Mikeo > Hub > Gasdea > Hwnmanu > RussG |
| Absolute Naturists When you just have to cover up in a nudist setting |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 2, 2012 |
Have any of you ever heard of "nude intelligent"? It simply means, IF you are burning up in a certain place... cover up -or- IF you are getting eaten up or bit in a certain place... cover up -or IF you are freezing in a certain place... cover up and so forth and so forth. I do it, it only makes sense. In TX we have No-Seeums when the wind is not blowing and they bite. In WA we have mosquitos and they bite, at Lake Powell in the summer they have Sun that will fry a dozen eggs at the same time not to mention your body. Been there and done all that. Guess what, I cover up. This is not the same as covering up to for the sake of covering your nudity which I don't do. |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 1, 2012 |
Isn't this really about co-existing without judgement or fear... by anyone. To me that is the epitome of living naturally. I agree that "preaching" nudity is not a good thing. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Everyone needs to decide for themselves. That way it is solely an inner decision and true acceptance that creates the mindset tht clothing is not neccessary for living. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 31, 2012 |
I recently recieved a message from a member of NCH (not Absolute Naturists) about my earlier post. I thought it and my response were worth sharing since it gets to the point of the topic very succinctly. Here it is: Message> Subject: BrandyOnTheRocks. Although she doesn't participate at NCH much, Brandy is for real. Just ask Brian. My response> I don't believe I ever said she was not real and I do not need to ask Brian. The topic I named her on was "Perv Bait Women". The picture is not the epitome of social nudity. It is the type of picture that is sexually suggestive and attracts men who seek those type of pictures on the internet. It also reinforces the belief that social and recreational nudity and sex are aligned. Now if you add that to a totally blank profile you have the point I was getting at. These are the earmarks that I named her by as a Perv Bait Woman. I am not changing my opinion. I appreciate you offering your thoughts, SB _______________________ Any thoughts folks? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 29, 2012 |
had another experience with this yesterday. I attended the "Rock'n the Park" outdoor music festival at LARC (a WA Clothing-Optional club) and there were people completely dressed, topless women, and folks totally nude all side by side... enjoying the music and having a good time. It can a happen if we allow it to. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 29, 2012 |
To Brian's credit, much has change for the good here on NCH regarding this topic since posting this topic. I made a recent review of the women on here and I only came up with eight that I would consider questionable. This is a huge step in the right direction. Good for you Brian, keep up the good work. My eight questionables: KuKu, SwtLisa, Nakedbuns, modelchic, BrandyOnDaRocks, Mis Molly, Anjoc40, Latina_22. Some of these have not logged on for a long time so they probably gave up on using this site for their intentions. I think we all on Absolute Naturist should keep a watchful vigil for persons who are here for reasons other than positive social/recreational nudity. |
| Northwest Nudists Is the NW really Nudist Land? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 28, 2012 |
Is the NW really a place for nudist activity and life? Honestly, it is cold, wet and soggy. Beautiful yes, cold, wet and soggy still. Most nude activities have to take place indoors which limit their existence. Even at the beaches you have to pick a good day and hope it stays that way all day. I guess I am not feeling it, are you? |
| Absolute Naturists KEEP CALM — IT’S ONLY A … |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 28, 2012 |
Movng on to a lighter note... The picture posted by Nudony back on July 25 on the differences in thinking between males and female led me to these two captions of my own: (Lead in with what was said but what I heard) *Male with a coffee cup -> Wow, fresh creme and sugar! *Female with coffee cup -> Does he really think I want a biscotti to nibble on with my coffee? Just my silly thinking, I know it is kind of off topic but worth maybe a little laugh to lighten the air. It is still about how we mentally process nudity. SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 28, 2012 |
Dave88, is that the best you can do? BooHoo, so sorry. You earn respect, you don't just get it. The majority of topics and posts in this group are for and about Absolute Naturists... not wannabes or thinkstheyares. Intelligent and well thought out comments are always appreciated, and certianly by me. Those others... well what can I say. |
| Absolute Naturists Simply Living Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 28, 2012 |
You can be a victim of your environment or your environment can be a victim of you... your choice, it is a mindset either way. That is my point I don't care where you live or work. All that other stuff is just excuses we make for ourselves. I totally understand the requirement (not need) to wear clothing by community norms. How much focus you put on it is the point. I like to dress up, it's fun and makes me feel sexy sometimes. In my thinking, this is "dress up" time and outside my normal living mindset. Even indigenous tribes do it for a variety of ceremonies. It has a purpose but is not how they live or think about clothing. Speaking of "dress up" time, let's face it, clothing is sexy. Clothing accentuates our bodies and the sexual parts of our bodies, that is what it is designed to do. When you pick out that certain tie in the morning, why do you pick a certain one... because it makes you look good and makes you feel attractive in your view of self, right? Nude living is not sexy in and of itself. There is no need to pick out anything to make you look good or feel attractive. Nothing is pushed, shoved, lifted, squeezed or color matched. It is a nude body with arms, legs, feet, hair, scars and so forth. ok, brush your teeth, take a shower and comb your hair, but that is it. This may be a reason why people try to adorn their bodies, to be sexy which go's back to the correlation of the percieved need to wear clothing or adornment. It is a very insecure way to live your life. Think about it. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 28, 2012 |
...and what did say in my earlier post... huh huh, I knew it. I think what Andy was getting at is that it is not about who has the bigger spear as much as everyone in tribe has a spear, so what. With our nude bodies exposed we have the unique ability to understand the concept, yet many of you men still gravitate to the locker room porno mentality. The question is why... it's only a penis, get over it Tarzans. I do think that this type of issue is more prevalent with the clubbing, home or wanna-be nudist rather than the naturist nudist. In nature sexuality is part of life, for the others mentioned it is a focus of life. Jane with a P |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 28, 2012 |
More valiant than most my friend... I totally agree and have shared many experiences like you have. It is not easy to move to a place of happiness in your life, but the treacherous journey is well worth it when you arrive. Excellent quote from Mr. Shakespear. Thanks for sharing. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 26, 2012 |
I think the actuality of "Living Nude" may be the goal for many but the actual transition from a believed need for clothing to the realization that clothing is not needed is the start of simply living nude and where the paradiagm shift occurs in mindset that makes it normal. Nudity is no longer a focal point of existence, it just is. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 25, 2012 |
Good info, thanks Cliff. Is there any place for kayaking that you have come across? The encountering of dressed hikers, especially females, would be a great story to share over in the Absolute Naturists group in the topic about interacting with people who are dressed when you are not. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism philosophies and paradoxes |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 25, 2012 |
Totally agree Rollercoaster! Many nudists do mouth the words of positivity for social nudity BUT retain the attachment to sexuality layered within their mindset. In their defense, it is not an easy thing to detach from, especially if you live with one foot in and one foot out with constant fear or negative reinforcement from the textile philosphies on social nudity. It is a clear example of a paradox within the social nudity advocate arena. As far as "colonies", I got no problem with it either... if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... it's a duck and not a swan. BTW, thanks for getting this topic back on track and departing from the non-relate debate. Anybody else have thoughts on THIS topic. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 24, 2012 |
Recently we had the Critical Mass (the NW equilvalent of Burning Man) event held on our LARC club grounds in WA. They had 1,000 participants this year by tickets sold. In the past (held 3 times before), there has been kind of a dividing line between the CM participants and us nudists who are there. They called us the naked people. This year I noticed a difference. We were not the naked people, just nice people who were accepting them into our little world without judgement. They are not nudists as a whole. However, it was a live and let live atmosphere this year. Everybody was just doing and interacting as people, clothed, nude, semi-nude, openly changing attire (they do alot of dress up stuff) whether they were nudist or not. Mothers were letting their young children walk around and play nude without any concern. Nudity was not a big deal or focal point this year. Everyone was just accepted as people, it was cool and different. Some of our club members decided to have an impromptu Nude Walk Parade and many of the Burners joined in, some nude with others for the first time. It was a good experience for them and us nudists. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 23, 2012 |
Good for you and your wife. Her issue with weight can always be a goal even after going to a nudist resort. It is a good and healthy one to work towards no matter what. What I have learned about goals is that they are for us to work towards and achieve... not to limit our life. Life is to short for that. Hope your visit to a nude venue is positive for both of you, I am sure it will be. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism philosophies and paradoxes |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 23, 2012 |
My comment was meant to expose the lack of logic behind AANR's view that social/recreational nudity is positive and healthy -BUT- only in appropriate locations. To me this totally defies logic and is a contradiction of the belief/philosphy that social/recreational nudity is a positive and healthy way to live and recreate. This is a excellent topic to make us think about what we hear, experience and think in the nudist/naturist world. I apreciate Nudony's thought provoking posting of this topic. I did not intend my post to take it off topic as it appears to be doing. I posted New_Adventurer's question/post in a different topic for you all to give your thoughts on. Thanks. |
| Absolute Naturists Where is a Nudist's appropriate place? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 23, 2012 |
Why must it (social/recreational nudity) be confined to a backyard, remote trail, beach, or resort? Why can we not adopt the Scandinavian attitude in the USA? (This question was asked by member New_Adventurer in response to another topic. It is a good question to ask and get your thoughts on as a separate subject/topic so I am posting here for your input and thoughts. Thank you New_Adventurer for the idea.) |
| Absolute Naturists Nudism philosophies and paradoxes |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 22, 2012 |
hmmmm, interesting... very interesting.... excellent topic. ok lemme try this one: How dare you call my "nudist resort" a "nudist colony".... uhhhhh, maybe because it is out in the woods far removed from any civilization, has 10' walls around it and you have to have qualify and meet certain conditions to go in it. I don't know why nudist get sooooo upset about that, maybe they don't want to be compared to leper's. So why then have we so graciously accepted the "appropriate locations" philosphy put out by a leading nudist based orgaization that believes social nudity is healthy and positive... but only in appropriate locations? Does this somehow reinforce the belief that nudity is not healthy or positive existence. Is it rather a harmful, contagious and unacceptable way to exist in a normal civilization? Wasn't a Leper Colony an appropriate location for leper's? I'm confused by this paradox. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 22, 2012 |
I think it is very common to have this type knee-jerk response when first encountering a situation like that. It was these type of situations that really helped put me at ease and comfort with being totally nude in front of anyone anywhere. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 19, 2012 |
Once again it semed like summer was never going to arrive... but it did FINALLY! have you done anythng fun yet or do you have plans? Tell us what you are up to. |
| Absolute Naturists Photoshopped Pictures: what Are your thoughts? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 18, 2012 |
It just dawned on me that this topic is smack dab in the middle of the negative body image problem that nudists talk about trying to get over. I don't think naturists are as much into this as the clubbing nudists. I have had some of my pictures photo shopped before, but not for any nudist/naturist publication or use. Heck, look at my picture for a representation of this group. I could have easily had this picture wittled down to hottie size but why. It is me, I am good with that, end of story. I have more important things to be concerned about rather than how I look to you. I say anybody on NCH who insists on having their picture photo shopped before posting it on here definitely has some body image issues they need to get over. They are not helping the body acceptance mantra and in fact perpetuating the problem. I say get over it and get real! |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 18, 2012 |
Rabbit, I don't think this topic is about Big Dick Story swapping. In fact stories like you posted may well be the type of thing that instills greater focus and promotion of the small penis envy syndrom that hinders many men from participating in social nudity. Let's not get into that. Andy, not sure of the intent of your topic but I think it is to illuminate the realization of insecurities of body image with males as compared to only females. Please correct me if I am wrong. If that is the case, yes I can see where males, while not all that concerned with having a perfect 6-pack (not in the ice chest either) can fall victim to the small penis envy syndrom in the social nudity arena. I am not sure how men can get beyound that. Maybe some of you fellas can offer some suggestions. |
| Absolute Naturists Female Body Acceptance and Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 16, 2012 |
Ya' know, I have even heard it reported that some of the Victoria Secret models think they are fat...geez louise! Thanks for thoughtful responses so far. What I was thinking when I posted this topic was that we usually hear men telling women to just visit a club/venue and they will like being nude. Many times this approach is met with negativity. Maybe the approach should be more inward first. Like getting the women to talk about their body hangups privately and with you first. Get by those before venturing into an exposed state might work better. Every time I have mentioned going to a nude venue to a non-nudist but somewhat curious female friend (mind you this is female to female )the first response out of their mouth is usually "not with my lumps and bumps", ""not with these pale legs" or "maybe if I loose some weight". If you listen, all these messages are saying where they have their hangups about thier bodies. AhHa, now we can start to address the issues one by one. I guess what I am trying to say is maybe helping resolve the root issues before the race starts is better than trying to reach the finish line first. Listening to what the women in your lives say is key to minimizing the issues. Entering a race requires confidence and so does social nudity. As FireProf said earlier, most men don't give a crap how they look. I have to agree but I know for a fact that women do give a Big Crap on how they look or think they look, and especially around other women. |
| Absolute Naturists How To: Talk Nude Quietly |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 16, 2012 |
WOW, another excellent story/experience. Thanks DiabloBlanco. It just go's to show that the world is opening up a bit more and we can all help it with execellent opprtunities like this. Maybe I am full of it, but I am begining to think many people are wanting to find out a little more about nude recreation opportunities but don't know where to look for good or credible info. We can all be the credible info resources, why not. In addition to what you did Diablo, I usually carry small printed card (like the kind you print yourself on simple card stock) with the websites of resources like AANR /Naturist Society/ local clubs and my email address. I have handed them out at the grocery store, nail salon, food places, department stores and other places where the opportunity arose. That way you don't have to get into a long discussion about it right there and then and they don't have to try and remember the info. They can look resources up on their own time and explore them. To me, this is definitely talking nude quietly, the topic of this post. Maybe you can try it and tell us how it works for you. So far my experiences have been very positive. |
| Absolute Naturists Slogans for your towel |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 15, 2012 |
Now appearing on the BBC (Beach Butt Chair) |
| Absolute Naturists How To: Talk Nude Quietly |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 15, 2012 |
Thanks for that great story JP! Jim, you are absolutely correct in your statement that we do not know how people will react until you tell them, until then it is just a guess. It has always been my experience that when you tell someone who knows you, they usually react in a positive way because they know you and know you are a just a regular person like them, not a weirdo sex deviant that some percieve nudists to be. Again, Good Job! |
| Absolute Naturists Female Body Acceptance and Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 14, 2012 |
Do you think body acceptance may be the biggest issue and deterrent for more women becoming involved and enjoying social nudity? Do you think the body acceptance concept and issue is different for females than it is for males? Tell us your thoughts. |
| Absolute Naturists Gay Men vs Nudist Beaches |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 14, 2012 |
I don't think San Onofe Beach is the center of the universe. There are many beaches that avail or have availed themselves to nude enjoyment. Some have been impacted by gay cruising. I ws hoping to get your thoughts on this, not San Onofre. This topic came to my mind as I was anchored on our boat in front of the old fabled Teddy Bear Cove in Bellingham WA. It was a locals clothing optional small beach for many years until the state took it over. They were not going to do anything to change it until nearby residents complained of gay men frequenting it and having sex openly. That did it in. Now it is only textiled and not used very much. It is a nice little cove/beach and it is a real shame the gay boys had to "F" it up. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 13, 2012 |
Do gay men have an impact on the creation and/or retention of nudist/clothing optional beaches? Your thoughts please. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 9, 2012 |
I was wondering if anybody had any new information or news on this topic. I was hoping things might loosen up a bit before I get back to TX this coming winter. Anybody got something to share? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 9, 2012 |
So tell us, what is the most nude fun time you have had so far this summer? |
| Absolute Naturists What Would be your dream community |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 3, 2012 |
This is a good and fun topic. Express your ideas and thoughts... but let's stay on topic please. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Clothing |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 1, 2012 |
Exactly! Thanks for saying it little more direct than me and CO tried to do. This why we need more women to chime in on these topics. So what do you think about that fellas? |
| Absolute Naturists HOT SPRINGS |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 30, 2012 |
opps, ok, sorry it was just very buried and I guess I got lost in the story. Sometimes titling the topic with a direction like "Hot Springs Experiences" and leading off with the question gets a greater response. Just a thought for the future. Thanks for the post. |
| Absolute Naturists HOT SPRINGS |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 30, 2012 |
TommyGunn, nice story but what is the topic that people can respond to. This is more like a journal entry. Please repost and clarify. Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists Underwear, Outerwear, and Swimwear |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 29, 2012 |
As I sat on the foredeck of the boat today, at our dock, I was wearing a small bikini top and shorts. Of all the passerbys no one even gave it a second look or thought (well a few guys gave a second look). Now if I had been topless, I wonder what the reaction would have been. We won't ever know, but I am suspecting it would have been different. Just that one little article of cover-up can make a diffenernce on how we accept the norms of society. It just does not make sense to me. |
| Absolute Naturists Photoshopped Pictures: what Are your thoughts? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 29, 2012 |
Since we have been talking about updating pictures in another topic, let's hear what some of the new members (or anyone else) have to say about this topic. It is becoming easier to do and more commonplace. Thoughts? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 29, 2012 |
This is such a good topic I thought I would bring back up again. We all have continuing experiences with this. Some are sad, some are funny, some are, well, just are some. Have you had any experiences you would like to share. Please do. Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists Updating your photo. Should it be mandatory? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 28, 2012 |
Thanks FireProf! It is a good pic and it was a beautiful place to be nude. It will stay in my collection for a while. However I decided to change it again to something a little more simple and more in keeping with everyone else. It is simply a picture of me on a friends boat. It was a beautiful day, we were all enjoying the sunny day totally nude. It was a random shot that I liked. It was either this one or the donut one... I decided to save that one for another update. See what you started TommyGunn...lol. |
| Absolute Naturists Updating your photo. Should it be mandatory? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 27, 2012 |
Ya' know... just a real photo would be good. I have turned down a lot of people who have reqested to join Absolute Naturist who would not offer up a picture or had a bogus one. This is one of the group requirements for joining. I guess that means it is mandatory to have a picture, at least for us and I see nothing wrong with that. As far as mandatory UPDATING, no, but it would be nice. Actually I think I will do that right now. Lemme look for a hot chick photo on the internet, LOL. Thanks for the post Tommy. PS - When you update you are photoless until the Big Kahuna approves it which sometimes takes a while. No worries. |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 27, 2012 |
I hope you do. I really enjoy their quarterly magazine "N" that comes with your membership automatically. A great deal and an excellent publication for outdoor naturist based stories and information. As I said before, I belong to both since I firmly believe we should support those who support us. I do tend to relate more to TNS... just more my thing. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudity in Foreign Countries |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 26, 2012 |
Thanks Simon... that is really great information you shared. I for one would like to hear more fom you on this as things evolve. I liked what you said about moving away from the "club" stuffiness to something more appealing to the new generations. That is exactly what we are doing with our club at the moment. it may well be the answer to declining memberships and non-joiner mentality. Again thanks. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Clothing |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 26, 2012 |
Diablo... you weren't. I think you are on the same page as a few of us others on the subject. I appreciate your viewpoint. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 26, 2012 |
The two original questions asked in this post by Sarasota were: 1) Why do females cover their lower half and still wish to be called 'Nudists'? 2)Are we approaching a catagory of 'Topless Nudists'? My answer to Question #1: Because it is our choice and we women, as people are free to make that choice. It does not make us any less of a Nudist than you believe yourself to be. Actually the two of us women who have posted on this topic are probably more of nudists than the majority of you men on NCH. We don't feel a need to critique or judge what you cover or don't cover. Most women I know, myself included, do not view social nudity as naked time nor do we apply sex to the equation. Men generally do. My answer to Question #2: No. The thrust and inference of the question is based on the belief that Topless refers to women only. This is the same mentality that has declared toplessness for women illegal and for men a non-issue. Very male based,discriminatory and sexually driven. In this context, if there was such a thing as topless nudity, it would be a positive step for top free equality. It would stop the sexuality men derive from female breasts. Last time I checked, most men have breasts also (some even bigger that women's). Other thoughts: First of all thanks to sarasota for the posting of these questions. So far, only a few of you have answered the questions. The rest of you have just pontificated from within your own male view or opinion of the nudist world and women. I think the two women, CO-Home and myself have clearly answered the first question. Most of you did not even hear or understand what we said... and then you wonder why more women are not at nudist clubs or why you can't get a women to accompany you. Is that really a wonderment.. I mean really? Ok, off my soapbox, Would anybody like to answer the two questions specifically? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Norms and Styles by Geography |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 25, 2012 |
This question (post) came to my mind s a result of what Brian said in a different topic. Do norms and syle change by geography, I would have to say yes in my experience. Examples with number of clubs/venues I have experienced: In the NorthWest (4 clubs), some type of cover-up is usually close at hand. That is due to cold and rain any time of the year. Most nudists in th NW are not all jazzed about runway fashion, they are more casual and earthy. They do what is comfortable and nobody minds. In Southern CA (2 clubs), I saw more of a sexuality and glitz in attire and manner. Especially coming from "the Valley" women (San Fernndo Valley). Designer Sunglasses and High Heels were around the pool. It was a very cliqueish atmosphere and everybody seemed to be in everybodys business and trying to outdo each other. oh well, thats LA for you. In Palm Springs, it was Bling. Wealth was abundent and no attempt to hide it was made. It was not brandished, it was just there. Very trendy and stylish. No pretenses. Friendly but upper crust for the most part. In Arizona (1 club) it was more of a desert rat thing. People were just hanging out nude in the hot sun and walking around the cactus. 100+ temp is to hot for clothes. The evening dances were the sexy dress up times, when it cooled down. Easy bunch of friendly people. People seemed to just enjoy themselves with what they had. In Texas (2 clubs), it is the Winter Texans (snowbirds) primariy and they come more from the Bible Belt states. Conserative and concerned what others will think about their participation in nudism, even with family members. Cover-ups go on pretty fast and sarongs in abundence, even at NUDIST not CO places. Down home and neighborly folks though and very nice too. As for the real Texans I have met, very nice and they do what they want to do with a Texas swagger. Cool people when it comes to nudity and lot of land too. In Mexico (1 venue), everyone was nude and just having fun. Yes they had money or at least doing very well, but just there to have a good time and soak up the sun all over. No cares No worries. Fun and friendly and almost always totally nude and barefoot. |
| Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 25, 2012 |
Rabbit... I don't believe you are the NCH Photo Police. Brian is well aware of what is posted and Andy is a long standing and responsible member and group owner here on NCH. I believe Andy was just having some fun and nothing wrong with that. Brian can decide what is appropriate and what is not, not you. Appreciate your concern. Let's get back to this really interesting topic. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Norms and Styles by Geography |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 25, 2012 |
Do nudist norms and styles change by geographical location? For those of us who have had the opportunity to visit nudist venues and beachs in different locations, we would probably say yes. What do you think or what have been your experiences with this? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 25, 2012 |
I swear... geez, I wear a sarong when I want to. It does not make me any less of a nudist. It is NOT So-Wrong. It is about choices and NOT trying to cram us all in one big pot. I have lots of sarongs and in many different colors and styles.... Who cares. What you guys don't get is that it is about how I feel at the moment, not how you feel. It is about ME. I think most women would agree with me on this point. My body is my body and I have no problem with that. I wear it as best I can with what I have. I am a nudist, and I enjoy being nude. I am also a woman and a individual. With that said, why should you care what I am covering or not... are you looking, probably. I don't wear sarongs to be sexy for the guys. I am sure there are some women who do. I can only speak for myself. I sometimes wear them to make ME feel sexy or feminine internally. Obviously you guys don't understand this as we women do. Again, It is My Choice. You do your thing and I will do mine... and I don't stare at your packages nor do I care about your packages dummies. One more thing, this So-Wrong War wreaks of nudist elitism. And why are there not more women in nudism or here on NCH? I think you have your answer. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude/clothed interaction |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 20, 2012 |
I have had a number of situations where I was totally nude and the person I was talking to or interacting with was totally clothed. Here are a couple of real life examples: Hidden Beach, MX - Staff is totally clothed, guests are almost totally nude all the time. Me totally nude with the resturant staff, bar staff, guest staff, etc. It was very confortable for both of us. Like no big deal. Natures Resort, TX - With contractors, contractor employees, USPS, UPS, Fed Ex and textile friends of people who live there like we do. Actually it is kind of empowering. You can tell that sometimes it is a little mind bending for them but they clue in that it is normal for you and they respect that. Afterall, they are on my turf. I think every nudist should experience this. It helps your confidence level in your nudity and body acceptance... and their's too. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude with a Movie Star |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 14, 2012 |
Just thought of one more... Paul McCartney! I think he would be fun to hang with. He could use some sun also. Huh, not a movie star... Hard Days Night, Help! and a few others. Basically I think musicians bring a different flair that is cool. hmmmmmm |
| Absolute Naturists Does Being a Nudist Take the Thrill Out of Life? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 13, 2012 |
No, just makes it more comfortable and real. Like FireProf, I still have "pinch me" moments to insure I am not dreaming. For example, like when I was standing in the surf at the Hidden Beach Resort and all the little fish swimming around my feet and legs... there I was totally nude totally in sync with nature and in an unbelievable beautiful setting...wow, pinch me please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 13, 2012 |
ok... for me, Daniel Craig. I like a guy who is a little rugged yet can be elegant in a tux. He seems like a down to earth gentleman. On the female side, Sophia Loren. Even though she is older, she still remains incredibly sexy and sophisticted in her deameanor. I could dig sitting with her talking, both of us totally nude, enjoying a glass of wine on the Italin riveria. Have to agree, Salma seems like she would be fun to be around, I could easily galpal with her. How's for that CO? By the way, I find it interesting that the guys are just choosing women. Why is that? I have no problem being with either men or women when I am nude. |
| Absolute Naturists Who should nudist fear most? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 12, 2012 |
DUDE! Put an apron on and Bake It, geez...just try not to drag anything in the cake batter. LMAO also. On second thought, maybe plant another tree. LMAOx2. ok... cool, over and out. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 12, 2012 |
Thanks for reminded us JP. I wish I could be there, I would ride in a heartbeat. One of the things that I find annoyig about events like this is that they want to make a unity statement by doing it all on the same date. Sure it helps with the marketing and promoton... but what happens when the weather is not suitable in your neck of the woods on that date or time of the year. I would rather see events like this happen when it has the best chance of success in your area and the locals would know that. It is still making a statement but just continually and that would be good. Enjoy the ride! |
| Absolute Naturists Who should nudist fear most? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 12, 2012 |
Instead of worrying or waiting for the right moment... be a good old fashion kind of neighbor and take them a "Welcome To the Neighborhood" gift like a nice yummy carrot cake with that on iced on the top of it. Don't do wine, wrong initial message. By doing this it gives you an opportunity to meet face to face in a positive fashion and the first crack at giving them info on the neighborhood on your terms. They are probably feeling a little apprehensive just being the new kids on the block. At the same time casually tell them that you and your wife like to enjoy your backyard nude but that it is nothing wild and crazy. It you get a positive feeling you can invite them over for dinner and explore further. By not doing anything you leave it all up to their imagination and that is never good. Just my thoughts nd how I would approach it. |
| Absolute Naturists Teaching You Children About Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2012 |
There is an excellent article on Page 9 of the June 2012 issue of AANR's "The Bulletin". It is by Melissa Lapier, Aunt Nekkid, as she calls herself. It clearly, at least to me, talks about our influences and societies influences on children... especilly girls. Read it if you can. She has a blog at www.barelymelissa.com |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2012 |
I think I smoked the same thing once upon a time, hmmmm can't remember. My remaining brain cells won't let me provide a deeper comment. Thanks for the fun post and bringing this topic back to the surface. Everyone, there are a lot of excellent topics that have gotten buried. Scan through them, bring some up, and give us your thoughts. SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 1, 2012 |
I had me a couple of doughnuts from Rockets (see earlier post from AndyBee) today. My picture should be posted soon I hope. This is my favorite holiday or whatever. The pic is me sitting in our boat enjoying that good ol' doughnut. It is cold and rainy outside today so I decided to eat them inside... intelligent nude they call it I think. |
| Absolute Naturists Teaching You Children About Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: May 31, 2012 |
Children vs Adults Only keeps popping it's head up here and there. The perspectives are very wide ranging and passionate. But... what are you doing to teach your children about the positives and naturalness of social nudity? Are you relying on venues and others to do this for you? That was the primary topic of this thread and one that maybe we should revisit. Please chime in, thanks. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 31, 2012 |
Tomorrow is FRIDAY, JUNE 1, 2012... National Dougnut Day, and better yet National NUDE Doughnut day. Yes, last year I proclaimed it as National NUDE Doughnut Day. Why can't we nudist enjoy it our way? I will... will you? If you do, don't forget to try posting a pic on NCH showing it and name our group (AN) as the instigator or leader of it. Do a search on the internet to find out where they are giving free doughnuts. |
| Absolute Naturists Is Nudist Life Really a Lonely Life? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 31, 2012 |
It IS what you make IT. This is true no matter what it i. Nudist life has never been lonely for me but then again I have never hidden my love for social nudity and nude living. I am not ashamed of it nor do I care about losing "friends" because of it. A friend is a friend no matter what. Those others are only aquaintances and they can go as far as I am concerned. Usually they don't have a life of their own anyway. We have many friends inside and outside the nude community. How you view your social nudity is how they will view social nudity. This even applies to personal relationships. An honest person has nothing to hide. Get over the shame and guilt you may feel about social nudity, or get out of social nudity. Be real. |
| Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 31, 2012 |
sunnyLA, What a bunch of CRAP! Obviously you have not much of a clue on how much money it takes to own and run a place like that. So what as to where they lived and if they were wealthy or not, they were offering a nice nudist venue for nudists to enjoy. Stogey Grumps have nothing to do with it either. You will find those everywhere ...especially in the RV type places. For the most part older nudists like kids and have grandkids of their own. There are three issues that made this thing into such a mess in my opinion. One, a money grubbing loser attorney. Two, the waffling of answers given by the owners. That is a mistake in any business. Three, the stupidity of in fighting by nudist or naturists on the issue rather than standing behind the larger need for quality nude venues who subscribe to postive nudism. The bottom line... Conquer and Divide... does that ring any bells people. Many of you have fallen into that trap sorry to say. Who wins, certainly not nudists. You don't need a nudist venue in Palm Springs to teach your children that social nudity is natural and good. They learn that at home from your example. Be a good example and enjoy life. |
| Absolute Naturists Is Nudist Life Really a Lonely Life? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 30, 2012 |
I hear it said from many persons in the nudist realm, usually and most frequently from those who are new to social nudity, that being a nudist is lonely life. What do you think and what experiences can you share? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 28, 2012 |
For AANR Members: I don't normally post electoral type items BUT this is different. This time, and probably for the first time we Nor'West folks have the opportunity to elect people to the AANR Board that have our side of the country knowledge. I get a little frustrated with always having the east coasters dominate the organization. Hence I am writng this and it is my own personal opinion. Please vote for the West Coast Slate: Brian Spence - President Dave Landman - Vice President Sharon McLeod - Secretary/Treasure I personally know Brian and Sharon and they are very good people with their hearts in the right place. I am sure Dave is also. Thanks, Cassandra aka SunBunny |
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SunBunny Posted: May 28, 2012 |
Welcome Tina, I look forward to hearing from you more in the future. We need more input from the female perspective so I am counting on you to chime in as much as you can. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Who should nudist fear most? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 23, 2012 |
FireProf & Jim... this in not a marital advice topic or group. Bakodb, as the group owner I don't get my nose out of joint on discussions and if I saw a reason to remove your post I would do it. The only reason to do that would be if you are being disrespectful or offensive. We have some pretty tough and honest discussions in this group. It is not for the meek. I am not sure what you said in your post since I did not read it before you deleted it so I can't comment on it specifically. The only thing I say is that you be the judge of your comments, if you can't stand behind it... don't write it. All I ask is that you stay on topic or create new one. That is pretty much how we roll in this group. BillBowser, Thanks for getting us back on track with this topic. Lots of interesting perspectives so far. SB |
| Absolute Naturists National NUDE Donut Day |
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SunBunny Posted: May 17, 2012 |
There are 687 members of Absolute Naturist.I am wondering if only 3 of us eat donuts? This is one of the fun things that occurs on this group. It would be really fun to post a pic of yourself eating a donut on June 1, 2012. If you can't do that... please put up a "status update" on June 1 saying you enjoyed a donut today. C'mon, it fun... let's all do it. |
| Absolute Naturists Why do you call yourself a Nudist or Naturist? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 15, 2012 |
Good on you Maisey. Kalalau...Exactly! I totally get it. I belong to both AANR and The Naturist Society (TNS). As I said before, I relate to naturist more than nudist. Anybody else care to chime in? |
| Absolute Naturists National NUDE Donut Day |
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SunBunny Posted: May 15, 2012 |
June 1, 2102. Let's see how many pics we can get posted here on NCH of each of you eating a Donut on that day. I know donuts are not the healthiest things to eat but one day per year is ok I think. If you post pic, add that you from the AN group. That will be really cool. Remember, Nude donuts are plain cake donuts... but they can be frosting optional donuts too. Here is a little info: http://donutdayusa.com/ |
| Absolute Naturists Why do you call yourself a Nudist or Naturist? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 15, 2012 |
I think there is a difference between the two titles. Yes they are used interchangebly butI think that is incorrect and does the naturist an injustice. Naturist's want to live in syncronization the natualness of the earths bounty and beauty as much as possible. They work to preserve it so generations after them can enjoy it. They are tree huggers and moss kissers. Nudists for the most part could give a rats butt about those things and they just enjoy being nude. Their daily lives do not normally involve preservation or enjoyment of the earths natural givings. They go to clubs to socialize and enjoy themselves. Some may even use the recycle trash bin. In my opinion, that is the difference and it is a big difference. How you classify yourself is you decision but I appreciate when someone does it from the heart and not to be trendy. Many times I have also seen how the application has much to do with your location. Later on this. For me, I am a Naturist at heart. I enjoy being nude most when I am in nature settings like the beachs, sailing on the waters, mountains, secluded islands. That is what I have when in WA. When I am in So TX, I feel more like a Nudist because there is not much natural beauty and nude life is pretty much confined to the nudist club (compound or colony, yep that is what it feels like). It is warm in the winter, end of story. Either way, I am ONE and I have no problem with anyone knowing that because life is to short to not enjoy what makes you smile. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Bill of Rights - The point is? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 15, 2012 |
AARN... that's funny, I like it and to a large degree somewhat true. I wish they would stop kissing the politicians butts since we seem to get only lip service. Maybe is we had a Rainbow nudist flag we would get more attention and action from the politicos. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 14, 2012 |
Like I said before... who cares. Even if it only is a grandstand, it brings it to the front of media and awareness. There are those who enjoy their own nudist time and there are those who want to change society so anyone who wants to enjoy the freedom of nude living and recreation can do so without fear of law or society. I chose and I guess you two did also. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 13, 2012 |
Are you kidding, we can't even get hardly any of them to just respond to questions here. Moderating... ha, good luck. Not me...I'm booked. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues |
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SunBunny Posted: May 13, 2012 |
RabbitnBunny, I think you totally missed the topic question and the point of the toic question. This is not about body mutilation, which is a rather harsh way to view what most people would call adornment. Chill. I would really like to hear what you have to say regarding the topic question. Your move. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 13, 2012 |
rabbitnbunny, if I understand what you said, you did not sign it because you have a beef with AANR. Hmmmm, just because they do not support YOUR causes. Hmmmm, I think that is rather self serving. I may not agree with what ANNR does all the time, nor what other organizations do, but I don't think that it would be fair to turn my back on all nudists just because I have a self serving beef with AANR. There are many many issues that nudists need to confront with society and the politicians and I think every hand helps at this point. San Onefre is not the epicenter of nude recrestion last time I checked. I support the nudist cause no matter what and I signed the Billof Rights with my full name very early on. Whether it has any value or is a numbers game... who cares... I support nude recreation and nude living and I am willing to put my self in the forefront to attain it's acceptance. I am an absolute naturist, not a selective one. SB By the way, SunBunny is not connected with rabbitnbunny. |
| Absolute Naturists Non-Nudist Nudist Venue Owners, Is there a problem? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 2, 2012 |
I have to say that at first I had an issue with non-nudist owner/operators. On one hand, I feel that if they are not nudists they don't/can't get it and are just trying to exploit the nudist dollar. They are charlatans. HOWEVER, it can really be a good thing in that nudists and textiles by postively uniting, working together, doing business together, and socializing together do in fact actually demonstrate that social nudity is not something to be feared or demonized. The operators and staff at Hidden Beach in Mexico is a very good example of this. They are not nudists. The nude cruise thing is also a good example, the owners/operators and staff are not nude or nudists. It works an all the interactions with each other are handled a very normal professional everyday manner. It's fantastic. If more textile hotel/motel owners adopted a clothing optional policy then we might be a step closer to opening the doors to nude acceptance as a another form of positive living. As long as they set solid guidelines to keep the social nudity on the up and up (like Fawlty Towers appears to be doing) then it should be a good thing. I would hope that nudists could apprecate having another venue to utilize and accept these business owner's willingness to open their doors to social nudity no matter what the reason. It can be a win-win if their business is successful. They could be a role model and testament for others to join in. By the way, who says nudists who run nudist venues do a good job. I have to say that there are some nudist venues owned and operated by nudists that are not run or maintained very well but they are the only gig in town so we are forced to patronize them. That is not right. The bottomline, this is really about being a profitable and successful business. Profitable businesses are usually happy businesses. What is wrong with that. Why should we nudist be nip-picky about it if we get quality service for our nude dollars. I do think that the nudist clientel will quickly be able to figure out if an owner or manager is sincere and knowledgeable of the nudist business and mindset -or- just exploiting it. With that you can decide to patronize the business or not. In the case of Faulty Towers, if he does not do it right, he will definitly go out of business like he was almost doing prior to the nudist angle. It is simply the Law of the Business Jungle, only the profitable survive. So the long and short of it, I don't have a problem or issue with it. I think my initial thoughts were a knee jerk reaction but as I always say... change is a good thing. After all, this is one of those times that they have to make us nudists happy and not the opposite. Now that is a good thing. |
| Absolute Naturists Non-Nudist Nudist Venue Owners, Is there a problem? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 1, 2012 |
It is probably rare BUT do you think there is a problem with a non-nudist being the owner/opertor of a nudist venue? |
| Nudist News Fawlty Towers Motel going nude |
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SunBunny Posted: May 1, 2012 |
An excellent point CO-Home, they should embrace social nudity for themselves. That was a question that I had when I read about Fawlty Towers, it just seemed like it came out of nowhere in a desperate attempt to stay open. It is always good to have another social nudist social, but nudist clientel expect quality business practices and services as well. The simple fact that we are nudists does not make us bottom feeders. If a business is having difficulty attracting clientel, it should be time to review the business practices and not switch to a niche market in hopes of turning a profit. Best wishes Fawlty Towers... but get on board with the wonders of nudism. Don't be another nudist charlatan. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists LARC Cinco de Mayo & Big Nude Boat Auction |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 30, 2012 |
Everybody here in the northwest, LARC is having it's Cinco de Mayo dance this coming Saturday (May 5, 2012) and I will be the DJ of the evening. I got some awesome music lined up. ALSO, LARC will be hold an auction for a "primo" cabin on The Big Nude Boat Cruise coming up in 2013. It could be an opportunity to go on the cruise at a value price. It will be auctioned off Saturday night. Come out and enjoy the day at LARC and have fun at the dance in the evening. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 25, 2012 |
Cheri, was it the genital jewelry or the act of her holding his penis that took you over? To me it sounds like the issue would have been the action of holding/fondling his genitals which would have been definitely been inappropriate given the setting. I would have given them the boot quickly. I am not sure I would have knee jerked a ban on jewelry based on that incident but rather issued a warning to all members about the inappropriateness of some body adornment in family friendly nudist functions and asked them to think about their actions. By the way, thanks for the post. I enjoy reading your experienced viewpoints. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Mixed Signals in Body Language at Nudist Venues |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 25, 2012 |
The question in the Topic is: Have you had experiences with mixed signals in body language communication at nudist venues? Tell us about it. I gave three examples of what I have personally experienced. The topic is not about these three examples, it is ABOUT what YOU have experienced. I am sure you have all experienced something (good/bad/funny/whatever) so tell us about that please. |
| Absolute Naturists Mixed Signals in Body Language at Nudist Venues |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 25, 2012 |
Have you had experiences with mixed signals in body language communication at nudist venues? Tell us about it. I have experienced (seen) the following: 1) Very gregarious and visually flirtatious female who was ready to blow the rape whistle as soon as she was approached by a friendly male; 2) Very perv type looking male staring around quietly in the corner of a pool who was not a perv at all but just a very shy nice man; 3)Female who was laying on a lounge chair spread eagle toward the guys playing volleyball acting as if she did not realize the view she was giving and expecting to be left alone to read her book. Just three examples that I have personally experienced. All I could do is shake my head... it takes all kinds, even in nudist venues. |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 22, 2012 |
Like a duck to water.... I must be a born nudist. Never thought about it in those terms, maybe it is more of a trait of being less inhibited about outside influences and more in tune with your pleasures or needs. I don't think there is a gene involved although I am sure someone could make a case for that. Good topic, thanks Armadillo. |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 21, 2012 |
Yipes... Stripes! (I know I know, sorry) -or- Caution: This towel belongs to a Nudist. |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 21, 2012 |
Let me chime in on my thoughts... I have no problem slow dancing nude, be it with my husband or another man. I have always thought that if a man takes the initiave to come over and ask me to dance, I should take it as a compliment and dance with him. If he proves not to be a gentleman, I will discontinue dancing with him and let him know why. His actions would be not only disrespectful to me but also to my husband. It has happened by the way. I don't bump and grind when I dance since that is not dancing that is foreplay, not that difficult to understand. Slow dancing should be respectful and nice. If you are a TRUE nudist you understand at a core level that slow dancing nude is not about prowling for sex, it is about dancing as you live, Nude. To have to put on clothes only opens the door to being sexy and therfore enticement. It has been my experience that most women who dress up for a dance at nudist venues do so in what could be consider a provacative manner (i.e. see-through, wording, g-strings,etc.) which go's along with adornment of the body when required to dress. However, some venues frown on this even though they allow for clothing optional to be the norm at nudist dances. What are you suppose to wear, flannel PJ's. If you are a nudist venue, not clothing optional, dance nude. If you are at a clothing optional, be respectful to everyone, this include you ladies too. Think about your actions. |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 21, 2012 |
Gentlemen, this topic was never intended to be about why men get erections. It is about concerns of slow dancing at nudist venues. FireProf keeps trying to tell you that and some of you just want to talk about your manhood...silly boys. No I am not going to create a topic for that and I will not entertain a topic by anyone for that exact purpose. If you want to talk about it, go down to your neighborhood bar and have fun. For Nudesuncple: I think women are well aware of the causes of male erections, we don't need your advice or educational thoughts on that subject. For CC10S: Again it is not about your erection, so quit wanting to talk about your dick and go play tennis. To others you others who have offerred comments, I appreciate the many thoughtful and honest answers you have provided. Thank you. Can we get back to the original topic about concerns. It would be nice to hear from a few ladies in the group. I'll go next ladies... SB |
| Absolute Naturists Clothing Optional vs Clothing Tolerant...Is there a difference? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 18, 2012 |
Do you think the phrases/terms Clothing Optional and Clothing Tolerant mean the same or are they different? What do they mean to you? Do you prefer the use of one over the other? Give us your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists What is Nudist Weather? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 17, 2012 |
For me one word desribes it best... WARM. If it gets to hot I can jump in a pool, sit in the shade, or get in an air condition building. If it is cold, I need to put on something warm and there go's the enjoyment of nudity. |
| Absolute Naturists Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 17, 2012 |
For the record, I have no bias against jewelry or breat augmentation (boob jobs) no matter how extreme either may be. To me what is important is how a person acts. There are probably many reasons for having them and it is personal prference as far as I am concerned. In our boating club, we have no restrictions because we believe family friendly means how a person acts, not what the look like or choose to do with their bodies. I posted this question because it IS an issue at many nudist venues. At Natures Resort, where I live during the winter months, any kind of body jewelry is not acceptable by the owners and grounds for removal or non-acceptance. This venue is not alone in this policy. I hear where many of you are coming from in your personal opinions but if you place yourself in the ownership or management of a nudist venue, and you have to deal with many different people, would that change your view or actions towards it. This is really the essence of this post. Fireprof is right, I put out posts that make you think, react or challenge you and your personal beliefs or bias... and we all have them be you a nudist or not. Good discussion... keep going. |
| Absolute Naturists Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 16, 2012 |
Many nudist venues ban genital jewlery because they say it brings focus to the genitals and therefore makes it sexual. At the same time, they make no fuss about Boob Jobs (Brest Augmentations) that many times definitely bring focus to a womens breasts in a very sexual way. Should Boob Jobs be banned in the same way since they are usually on much greater display and often consider very erotic and sexual as compared to a Prince Albert or a Clit Ring that makes you want to say "ouch"? Your thoughts please. (For clarity, I used the words "Boob Job" as a way of describing highly accentuated or extreme breasts by way of surgery. We all have probably seen what I am talking about.) |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 16, 2012 |
Why do nudists become uncomfortable at the thought of slow dancing nude with any one other than their spouse/partner? Do we subconciously see it as sexual? Are males concerned about erections occuring? Is spousal jealously an issue? So just what is the problem with slow dancing nude at a nudist venue? |
| Absolute Naturists What is Nudist Weather? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 16, 2012 |
What is Nudist Weather for you? |
| Absolute Naturists Resort vs Club - Whats in a name? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 9, 2012 |
Seems like nowdays it is cool to call yourself a resort. Many clubs have even named themselves using the resort word. I think this misnomer is a real injustice to folks going there if you are not one as has been described by others. I have first hand experience seeing this. As many of you know, we have a home at Natures Resort in Texas. Natures Resort at best is a mobile home/rv park... not a resort. I refer to it as a nudist community which I think is very accurate. Our neighbors are the same people and almost everybody that even stays in the rooms they rent are the same people every season. Many folks live there year round. This is a community with the community activities run by a fun association much like a condo association. Even though it is privately owned, the owners do not run the activities or food activities. Money for activities and entertainment is raised by the people in the community. So, a rose by any other name... is not always a resort. NOW... Hidden Beach Resort in Mexico IS Definitely a resort. Compare Natures Resort in Texas and Hidden Beach Resort in Mexico on line and you will see what I mean. ok...thats it for me, over and out. |
| Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 3, 2012 |
As far as MiLindas post, Different topic, different subject, different food, wrong wrench. Singles is not the subject that this topic is based on so lets keep on track. This topic is actually occuring at DSR. The single thing is not even though it may be interesting food for discusssion. MiLinda, maybe you should form your question into post and see whee it go's. I always encourage group members to do this. |
| Absolute Naturists Teaching You Children About Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 3, 2012 |
We have recently talk about children at nudist resorts. Some have embraced it, some have rejected it, some have viewed the discussion as hostile towards familys with children. As usual we are not like minded on the issue. Maybe this thought is one we can come together on. If we approach social or recreational nudity as if we were teaching our children, would you teach them some of the thoughts, beliefs, things or actions that you say on the many threads on AN? Maybe we should always ask ourselves this question before we actually do something. After all, aren't we the examples for those who follow us. |
| Absolute Naturists Resort vs Club - Whats in a name? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 3, 2012 |
Let's talk about the naming conventions used for nudist "places"? When or why does a nudist club become a resort-Is there actually a difference between a resort and a club-What,s the motivation...geez, we could go on and on, your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 3, 2012 |
PerfectTan, I think it was more like 10 cents worth... cheers, exactly what I see happening. Whenever we see an isssue like this happening and realizing the larger picture and it's implications on nudism as a whole, we should step up and support in favor of nudists... don't care if you have kids or not because it is really not about that. |
| Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 2, 2012 |
FireProf, I hear you saying two things and I am not sure how you are applying then to the issue of forcing a private business (i.e. not accepting gov funding)to operate as if it was a publicly funded entity and therfore obligated by public law mandates. I do find error with other previous comments made in this regard. Let me take a stab at it from my viewpoint. The nameing convention is a red herring. It has no impact on anything other than marketing mumbo jumbo anymore. Also if a recreational entity does not have any kid play amenities to keep them entertained why would parents even think of taking their kids there, another red herring in the issue. The twisting of the "adults only" wording to align it adult business seems to be the problem. I still see the issue as a effort to derail the view of healthy social nudity as something perverted and not acceptable for children. It is a way to say or instill a thought that something go's on behind those walls that must be really bad if you do not want to let kids in. Who is behind it, I mean really, really, who? If there is a family with children who is hell bent on taking their kids to places with nothing for them to do, is there not something wrong with the parent's line of thought or parenting skills. Why on earth would a parent want to do that? Is that not "child abuse". I think most folks tend to get lost in the noise (red herrings) of an issue rather than heart of the issue and that is how we end up in court. |
| Absolute Naturists Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 1, 2012 |
WHERE we are allowed to practiced it negates it as a civil liberty. By dictating where you are allowed to practice nudity confines your ability and therefore negates your ability to CHOOSE where to practice it. Seems to me anyway. I am still thinking it is neither, but closer to a CL than a CR. |
| Absolute Naturists Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 31, 2012 |
or on the other hand, maybe it is neither. Maybe it is just another way of living. As if do you choose to part your hair on the left side or right side (assuming you have hair). But if it is neither, how do we go about protecting our right to live nude in our society if we are not hurting anyone or being overtly offensive to anyone. Should nudist just stop the CR or CL banter because it has no foundation or merit. Geez, not sure... |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 31, 2012 |
Just curious... your thoughts, opinion and reasons. If you call yourself one are you one? hmmm, maybe yes maybe no. Let's hear from everyone in the group this time. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 31, 2012 |
Parenting is not really the topic of this discussion and we need to quit being so sensitive. Emotions get in the way of logic. The common theme I am hearing is respect of others, respect of space and respect of business. In the case in point, it seems like there is an energy, be it either by nudist parents with children or a hungry attorney looking to make a name for themselves, to force a nudist club to accept whatever walks in the door. Is this right or is this wrong. That is the issue up for discussion. Let me reask the question, Does a nudist resort have the right to establish their own rules/policies of operation? |
| Absolute Naturists Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 30, 2012 |
I often hear arguements for social (public) nudity being argued as a civil right. I sometimes hear arguements for it being a civil liberty. Is it either? Should it be? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Who should nudist fear most? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 30, 2012 |
Court Systems! Unless you have a nudist judge and nudist attorneys on both side of a case, the nudist will loose. Don't believe it... just look at the current state of the laws surrounding public, social, recreational nudity. My recommendation, stay out of the courts. |
| Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 30, 2012 |
The All or Nothing mentality does seem to pervade in many issues within the nudist community. As I recently scanned several issue of The Bulletin it appear that there are far more "Family Friendly" than "Adults/Couples Only" nudist establishments. So what is the problem. As I see it, law suits like this just open the doors in the court systems for "red herring" discussions like the suitability of children being at ANY nudist establishment. Once again, nudists seem to be a very gullible population in being suck into situatuons/discussions that can be used against them in for moving the wholesomeness of nudity for everyone, young and old, forward. This is a very good discussion, appreciate all the opinions. It is what makes the Absolute Naturist group the Best group on NC. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 29, 2012 |
This Senior did do my time with kids, I still enjoy kids, I enjoy my grandkids, I am glad some parents are instilling positive social nudity in their upbringing, I said kids playing in their back yard and not the neighborhood playground (please read what I said) and there are many clubs/resorts/whatever that welcome families with children and offer activities for the kids, BUT don't start mandating that all clubs/resort/whatever MUST accept families and their young children with legal mumbo jumbo. If parents go to these clubs/resorts/whatever and choose not to parent (watch over their childrens behavior or voice levels) it just is not acceptable or fair to anyone else even if the clubs/resort/whatever is "family friendly". These parents should be mature enough to understand the rules of simple respect to others. In many ways it is sad that we have to make "rules" like this but the qustion should be "Why". I think I and others have addressed that. Call me grumpy, but I don't enjoy hearing Marco...Polo all freakin' day at the pool. I don't think this has anything to do with "compartmentalizing", just respect which is what everything should be about. |
| Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 29, 2012 |
I have been to nudist clubs/resorts where kids are welcome and present and I have been to places where there are not kids.... I will go for no kids, and by this I mean little ones usually under ten years of age. I think CO got it partly right when she said parents have stopped parenting but I think it is more of parents not respecting others. If YOUR child is annoying YOU, I bet dollars to donuts they are really annoying ME. The nonsense about kids being at nudist places helps them get a positive view of nudity is BS also. Most kids would be happy running around nude in their back yard playing with their dog. It is the parents attitude toward nudity that provides the positive view, not a nudist club/resort or me. The long and short of my comment, privately owned nudist clubs/resorts or whatever you want to call them should have the right to decide who is their target customer. Is there an issue with forcing a nudist business to accept children...YES! |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Normal |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 29, 2012 |
Jim, good luck... all you can do is keep moving forward. Happiness should always be an individuals goal in life. Maybe a small private nudist B&B would be a good option to potentially break through her issue. Obviously she is threaten somehow by your desire to enjoy social nudity. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 28, 2012 |
Had an interesting social event happen yesterday. We went to an "Open House" party a nudist couple had to show off all the beautiful remodels and upgrades they had done to their home. It is a home in a nudist community. Nude Normal was definitely on display because we were all nude doing and talking about things you would normally do and talk about at the same type of event in the textile world. Nobody was screwing or pole dancing, only laughing, eating, looking at the home and enjoying everyones company. That is definitely nude normal and that is what the antinudist folks should see and experience. It was real, no put-ons, and socially wonderful. |
| Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 28, 2012 |
A well known nudist resort in CA is currently being challenge as dicriminating against families with children for having a "adult only" policy. What are your thoughts on this? (This adult only policy is not for the purpose of sexuality so please don't go down that road in your responses) |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 28, 2012 |
yep, when I go to the grocery store, they think I should wear clothes... but I am working on that. Still do my Kaftan with nothing on underneath, so almost nude. When you live nude everyday, it becomes frustrating and almost to the point of logical lunancy to have to put on clothes when it is not necessary except for issues pointed out previously. Frying fish... ouch, but I have quick reflexes. As I now sit nude on my patio enjoying the warm Texas air (about 87 degrees at almost 6pm)I find it difficult to understand why folks would not want to be clothes free like me all the time. Rarely have I ever found someone who did not like being socially nude once they tried it. To me, Nude Normal is the name of the game. If I was dressed right now I would be all sweaty and uncomfortable... what would be the point of that! |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 23, 2012 |
I think you both have spoken exactly what I have experienced in the two mindsets. There is a difference in the emphasis placed on nudity. The one thing that I seem to always encounter on subjects like this is the need by some "part-timers" to take words out of the context of a subject to define their place in the nudist community as if it was a heirarchy. To that maligned effort I say hooey-fooey. Instead of taking potshots at some of us "full-timers" why don't we just learn from the variety of experiences and place those expeiences on our own context. Those who always seem to take the potshots are only in truth showing their insecurity. My intent in topics like this and others is not to separate but add a broader scope of knowledge of each of our experiences which in turn should add to a persons (your) level of security and talking points on any topic or subject. Thanks to those of you who chosen to participate wisely and openly on this and the many other topics on Absolute Naturist. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 21, 2012 |
Not a day seems to go by when Absolute Naturists doesn't have a request for membership from new people. We are the fastest growing group, we have the highest number of topics and we have the highest number of posts of any group here on NC. Contrary to what some may say, we must be doing something right and adding value to your participation in social nudity. FireProf and I appreciate your desire to join this group and invite your active participaton in the many topics. Let's hear from all you new members. Thanks. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 21, 2012 |
Nothing wrong with a Bunny trail... but this was crazy. Ok nuudman, now I know how we got here, glad you fessed up. It is important to post your thoughts in the appropriate topic so that the thread can have more meaning and focus. In the future please copy your words, delete it and move it to where you had intended yourself, don't just keep going. Thanks, appreciate it. Shall we continue? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 21, 2012 |
What the heck are you people talking about? This has nothing to do with the topic. The topic is about our places in the sun and how we react and think because of that... that's it. I think it would do some of you well to read the topic again, and then maybe again. ok, let me make it easier.... here it is again: "Is there a difference in how full time-nudists and part-time nudists approach and view social/recreational nudity? I am not envoking a cast system or hierarchy but rather just thinking about the different views expressed on the many subject here on Absolute Nudists. There seems to be a difference and I am curious. Please enlighten me and others by sharing your thoughts on this.". Let's get back to the topic. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Who should nudist fear most? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 19, 2012 |
Your fear is what I was speaking of exactly and you let yourself become the prey. You missed an opportunity to educate him and others, especially in a church. There are ways to do it without outing yourself, especially at a church function where judgement is supposed to be not very 'churchy'. Granted you were probably caught flat footed and unable to respond as you said. I think I would have asked the question what he felt was wrong with it? Why did he feel uncomfortable? Then the killer... if he saw or experienced something that would or could be considered lewd? It was all his junk, not yours. I probably who have ended the conversation with the question like how would he feel if the people at Lupin would have rejected him in the same manner he was rejecting them. If he didn't know where he was going he was a dim wit anyway. I would have probably left him feeling more stupid and definitely not the victor. There were probably some around the table that would have admire you for standing up to this stupidity. Hope this helps for next time you run into a like situation because they are definitely out there. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 19, 2012 |
I think both of you have missed the point. It is not about separating us or pigeon holing as much as trying to understand where we are coming from in our thinking and comments. As has been proven time and time again here in the topic discussions, we think differently and view subject differently many times because of how we are involved in social nudity. Isn't it better to be on the same page than not? We don't have to agree, just be on the same page on the same book so we can communicate on the same subject. |
| Absolute Naturists Who should nudist fear most? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 19, 2012 |
What I hear you saying reminds me of one of Ron White's (the comedian) show titles; You Can't Fix Stupid. What can I say, it is something that frustrates me all the time, most of the time all you can do is shake you head, mutter that phrase, and walk on. I still try anyway. AZ, I appreciate you recognizing what I try to do on the site... Make Us Think, plain and simple. We have had some very interesting (and sometimes heated and slightly brutal)discussuons on here because of this, but in the end it is all good because we all come away a little further ahead of where we were in our thoughts previously. If we stop talking, loose the courage to be challenged in our thoughts and crawl back under a rock, how can we ever grow. It is not easy nor is change, but that is our challenge. We all have an opportunity to educate ourselves here on the many facets of social nudity. We are the voices that can begin to change attitudes about social nudity. This is the education we all need to do this. Here is another thought to consider. The law of the jungle can very well apply to this topic. Only the strong survive. We have a choice to be strong in our views and convictions or be weak and become the prey. Up until now we have been the prey, should we not do something to change that? Is it not this weakness we should fear? |
| Absolute Naturists search results for your name reveal that your a nudist |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 19, 2012 |
Well I have 15,901... so there!, and yes I am probably more interesting,(one word, boobs) ... bunch of hogwash, just having fun with y'all. I wonder how these search engines pick up what they do. Some stuff is old or very obscure, some stuff is current, some is just thrown in a pot and stirred around with others. Like I said before, me being a nudist does not come right out at you. Maybe if I wrote a blog titled "My Nude Life" it would connect the dots. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 19, 2012 |
What got me thinking about this topic was the tone I kept reading over aand over in the recent edition of "N" magazine with people continually talking about what a free feeling it was to be nude doing things like hiking or rafting when all that just seems normal to me. To top it off, this is a naturist based magazine. My hubby pointed out to me that most folks don't do things nude everyday and don't live nude everyday like we do so in those cases it would be a freeing (or something like that)experience for them. ahhhh, I get it I think. Maybe I have forgotten the feeling I had upon my first visit to a nudist club or nude beach. This puts some perspective on the simple fact that for most folks (part-timers) it is like a hobby or a get away from normal life. For me it is just how I live and my view of social nudity and nude living is definitely opposite. This does tend to make me get a little frustrated with people who are part-timers or weekenders. For them it is usually party time vs another day in the neighborhood for me. I guess it is all good. By the way, you don't have to be an old duffer to live a nude life, it is how you think and act. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists LARC Opens for 2012 Season |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 18, 2012 |
Message from LARC Club President: It is that time again to get the Club up and running. The Tent will go up on Saturday (3/24/12). Be sure to come out and help make it all happen. We will have a Mardi Gras Dance that starts at 8:00pm following the Tent-Up. We will hold our General Membership meeting this coming weekend Sunday (3/25/12). Everybody is welcome to attend. ****** Group members, come out and enjoy. LARC resides within a beautiful setting for clothing optional enjoyment. Tell a friend. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 18, 2012 |
Is there a difference in how full time-nudists and part-time nudists approach and view social/recreational nudity? I am not envoking a cast system or hierarchy but rather just thinking about the different views expressed on the many subject here on Absolute Nudists. There seems to be a difference and I am curious. Please enlighten me and others by sharing your thoughts on this. |
| Absolute Naturists Who should nudist fear most? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 18, 2012 |
Who is it exactly that nudists should fear most in moving towards nude living acceptance and social nudity acceptance? Is it the textile population or nudists themselves? Who is the real stumbling block in nudist lifestyle proliferation? Maybe it is really us (nudists) we should fear in the demise of social nudity. What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists search results for your name reveal that your a nudist |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 18, 2012 |
I just did another search on my name (do so from time to time) and it was amazing how many things came up, even little things. Nothing really pointed directly to being a nudist other than some thoughts or articles posted here and there, much like a socialogist would write. Kind of surprised me since I am so out there in the nude world. In a way though, it makes you rethink of all the things you do that you don't put as much focus on as others do and yet these things must still be relevant to your life somewhere. Cool, this search stuff almost makes you feel famous.... |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists and Body Image Hang Ups |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 14, 2012 |
Good for you Detach. I hear that the most important step, and the hardest step too, in overcoming "hang-ups" is admitting to yourself that you have them. Only then do you see what you want or need to fix within yourself and you allow yourself to do things to make it happen, just like you did. kudos. |
| Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 14, 2012 |
Simple... because we do, shame on us. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2012 |
...and when do you get tired of playing cards with the same people night after night. I am not sure I would consider myself a "believer" as much as I would a person who is not afraid to experience life on my terms and with whom ever I choose to share it with. I hear this arguement or rationalization all the time. What it really comes down to is fear couple with a internal belief that nudity is wrong and people will think bad things about you for being person who enjoys social nudity. I see/hear it all the time, even in nudist venues, just freakin' crazy. If anyone believes appropriate locations means being hidden behind a ten foot fence in the middle of nowhere then you might as well just stay home behind your walls. It's the same. |
| Family Nudists Summer Camp for Kids |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2012 |
I just read an article in the "N" magazine published by The Naturst Society (31.2 pg.32) where kids were commenting about their experiences at Youth Camp at Sunsport Gardens. As I read, I just kept thinking that by these comments you would never know these kids, both girls and boys together, were all nude during camp. It just sounded like any other youth camp. If textiled parents read this, and then got the punchline that these kids were nude and the camp was led by nudist adults... I wonder what they would say. What do you think about this? |
| Absolute Naturists Offensive vs. Discomfort - Is there a difference? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2012 |
IMHO, Not Much. If we find discomfort with something, we tend to be offended by it at some level. We fear it at some level. Hence, not much other than one leads to the other and usually very quickly and fear energizes negativity. This is the same mentality that fuels the energy for organizations like AANR to seek "appropriate locations" for social nudity, like behind a ten foot wall out in the boonies. "Appropriate Locations" means we don't cause discomfort and offend anyone by social and human nudity. I am offended that we and these organizations have bought into this BS. It is doubful we will infect anyone with our nudity like people feared and colonized Lepers many years ago. If we do infect them with the benefits and enjoyment of social nudity it will probably be for the better anyway. OMG, did I say colonized as in justifying a Nudist COLONY? Closed off to the public so as to not cause discomfort or harm. Now there is a word most nudists should get offended by. Hey, it is just a word, but words and actions have meaning when we compare them with our values and beliefs. Yet we can get fighting mad about it just like those persons would get fighting mad about an unclothed couple having a burger and a coke at a local burger joint on a Friday night. Did I miss somethng there?.. oh yeah... the law. The law that was made up by persons who found this action uncomfortable and offensive. Many time the same people that wag their finger at me for being a nudist while at the same time considering themselves non-judgemental christians. What BS! Speaking of BS, yep, I am totally offended by BS too. ok, enough... When I feel discomfort with something I always try to ask myself why. I have yet to answer that honestly by saying it is them and not me. It is my core belief system that is challenged by actions I encounter. Social acceptance is a belief system. A system of right and wrong. The belief system that I have been taught by society, the same one that forces me into a herd mentality of acceptable behavior. The same one that reveres individuality and freedom. Isn't that a conflict of logic, perhaps. So it comes down to right and wrong / discomfort and offensiveness being a value upon which we place an action, not vice versa. Ask yourself, honestly, the same question I ask myself when you see something that you find discomfort with and are offended by and see what you come up with. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists and Body Image Hang Ups |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2012 |
Rollercoaster, I really appreciate and enjoy the intellect and thought of your posts...BUT, " Nudists have the same body image hang ups as everyone else. The difference is that nudists can set it aside.", hmmm, kinda doubt it. In most of the discusions on this group, Nudists don't set anything aside. We are people like anyone else. I have to go along with FireProf on this. Most everything he said has been my experience, and I live in nudist communities. As an example to ponder, why did the dust fly so high on the post about Body Acceptance and the words Fat & Unhealthy. Probably because it hit close to home in our views and thoughts about ourselves and our body image hangups. I think we all have them, like it or not, good or bad. Our challenge is to get beyond that and show others how silly it really is. Don't we have more pressing issues and things to be concerned with... really, don't we. ok, off the soapbox and on to the gym. Again, Roller keep up the posts. They really provide us with interesting and insightful viewpoints. Kudos to you too Sundancer. |
| Absolute Naturists Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2012 |
Thanks Hoya for that insightful view of nudity in FL. Old farts, only two crowded nude beaches, big bugs, hurricanes, Anita Bryant devotees, high taxes. I still stand by my earlier post re FL. AZ may be looking a little better but the beach thing is a problem for me and only a lizard would be walking somewhere in 115 degrees, nude or not, heels or not. Interesting that this poll is not indicating other states other than AZ and FL. 50 states in the US (52 if you throw in Stupid and Drunk) and only AZ and FL hit the post poll... interesting. Any thoughts? |
| Absolute Naturists Offensive vs. Discomfort - Is there a difference? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2012 |
What is the real difference between offensiveness verses personal discomfort of behavior in our society? Where does the acceptance of diversity fit into this equation? Do piercings on the human body offend you? Does green spikey hair offend you? Does homosexuality offend you? Does religious pontification offend you? Does ambulance chasing news media offend you? Do lawyers and politicians offend you?...etc. Does nudity offend you? Do these type of things offend us or just hit our personal level of discomfort and cause our negative reaction. So what really is offensive behavior. Your honest thoughts please... |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists and Body Image Hang Ups |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 12, 2012 |
It is commonly believed that nudists do not have body image hang ups. Is this true? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2012 |
Did you say shopping..... hmmmmmm, lemme think about this. I remember my first trip to ShangriLa. I drove there, coming from exciting (ugh) Hollywood. As I approached, making that turn off the Highway, all I could see was cactus growing very slowly. If I recall my first words they were something like...what the H am I F'ing doing here. Hard to shake the visual, sorry CO. I do know there are nice places in AZ... still on the fence though, AZ or FL. Shopping... can you wear heels on hot pavement? |
| Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2012 |
I find it interesting that nudists actually equated pole dancing with sex and eroticism. Why not I guess, strip clubs is where you normally find them anyway. Poles aren't slippery slopes, the people are. Yoga can be very erotic if you want to view it that way. Again, not the yoga, it's the people. Sometimes I think nudists get to uptight with trying to protect the nudist wholesomeness concept and forget about simple adult fun. It all depends how it is staged. All probably a non-issue anyway since I DOUBT seriously that most of the folks I see pictured in the AANR bulletin could ever spin on the pole anyway, female or male. As MiLinda said, it is darn hard to do too, been there and done that, I know! |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Normal |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2012 |
Jim, your daughter seems to have no idea what social nudity is about. Gay, discharges, hygeine, ejaculate... c'mon. By saying you agree with her on nudists never walking side by side with textiles you are even missing the point of nude normal. Fact, ha!, hogwash!!! It is simply about living and acceptance and not making judgements and promoting predjudice. That is the fact. Maybe you should point her to some of the stories written by women on the AANR site. Maybe you should read some also. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudity in Foreign Countries |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2012 |
I can't remember exactly where I read it but AANR someone with AANR was saying something about Spain being the most accepting of public nudity and that is it totally legal there... and I also remember reading about a official of Spain saying that they were removing those laws from their books and that any type of nudity was now illegal. Anybody have current info on this? |
| Absolute Naturists Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2012 |
I kinda leaning toward AZ or FL. However not much going on in AZ except cactus growing and seeing "The Thing". No beaches either. Florida... um, high taxes, expensive, big bugs and very old people, hurricanes and crazy cubans otherwise it is good. Oregon is very liberal so very good potential for nudity but very wet and nudists can get rusty and moldy there. Same applies to WA, very beautiful but also wet and cold plus big mosquitos. CA, not a chance... politicians are to uptight and people don't know how to relax, even in SF. Texas has some promise but not much in beauty, just the big old wild wild west. Mid US Bible Belt, forgetaboutit and you better go to church. Unfortunately, I reside in the two states that I don't give a nod to... go figure. AZ or FL, hmmm. |
| Absolute Naturists Slogans for your towel |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2012 |
YUDE It 2 NUDE It |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 10, 2012 |
Nudist Butt Napkin (I found this at the bottom of our topics and thought we could all have a little fun with it. Go for it...) |
| Absolute Naturists Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 10, 2012 |
What is the Best State in the USA for Nudism to proliferate? Your thoughts and reasoning please. (not talking about pushing pubic nudity just about where in your opinion would social nudity have the best chance to proliferate in whatever format) |
| Absolute Naturists Security Gates - Should Nude/CO clubs have them? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 10, 2012 |
Should nudist/co clubs have security gates to enter the facility? Does anybody know of a club that does not have security gates? Are they to hide behind or keep us safe? How does this differ from an open beach area? What are your experiences in this area and how do you feel about the issue? |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Nudie NW News |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 8, 2012 |
Has anybody have Nudie NW News or information on the upcoming NW Nudist season happenings? Places to go, things to see, tanning opportunities? Anything else to get you nude in the outdoors...please share. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Normal |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 7, 2012 |
Nude normal eliminates all the emphasis and discussion on "Appropriate Locations". Seems to me when you bring less attention to something it tends to become "old news" and slowly becomes just another day. Granted it will be tough to eliminate the connection between nudity and sex in the minds of many but as some of you know when you are at a nudist/co club, all that sex emphasis and erection fears tend to go away because nudity is normal... hence nude normal. Bringing down the hype is the real challenge. |
| Absolute Naturists Like Minded - What Does That Really Mean? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 7, 2012 |
The recent posting on Pole Dancing really throws a monkey wrench into this topic. To me, this just go's to show what I have always believed. Simply stated, Nudists are people who enjoy being nude... and that is where like minded ends. Maybe we should stop using that term so loosely. What do you think... |
| Absolute Naturists The Nudist Click Moment |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 7, 2012 |
Anybody else care to share? We have many new members since the last post and I thought it would be good to bring this up to the surface again. Please share, it is always good to hear new experiences... |
| Absolute Naturists Qualified Body Painters Wanted |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 1, 2012 |
What makes a good Body Painter? Do you have to have artistic talent? Do you need a creative mind? Can anybody do it? Tell us what you think. Body Painting is the focus of this year's AANR Nude Recreation Week Challenge. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 1, 2012 |
To answer the original question of this topic, The event to encourage nude recreation during ANNR's Nude Week this year is Body Painting. Now there you go, so even AANR supports the activity. This is leading to a new post... |
| Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 1, 2012 |
Should Pole Dancing or Pole dance Set-Ups be allowed at Nudist Resorts? Would you considered it a lewd or sexual activity activity or just simple adult fun? Would it be different if it was a theme type of event? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists What is a Social Nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 22, 2012 |
What is a social nudist and how would you describe a socisl nudist to a non-nudist? No classic definitions please... simply your opinions and your words. Thanks, go for it! |
| Absolute Naturists Defining The AN group Intent |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 14, 2012 |
Thanks FireProf, I could not have said it better... and didn't. Thanks again. I guess I never thought about how the word "want" could be interpreted. Now I can see more clearly what some of you are saying, ok, I get it. In my existence, when I say "I want" it means to me not only do I want to but I am going to, and I work to that end to achieve what I want. It is an action... not just a hope and a prayer. Sitting around thinking about it is a waste of time to me and time is the only thing I can't get back in this life. My view is if I wait for someone else to make it happen for me it probably is not going to happen. You have to make it happen and that that is the type of person that I envisioned as members of this group. To bring thoughts for action to the forefront. Moving forward is always progress, no matter how large or small the step may be. Standing still talking about something is just standing still. Everyone has to decide if and how they want to be in a movement or endeavor. You just should know that the if you are standing still, you will probably get stepped on... that's just the way it is. Topics like this are exactly for this purpose, to read and try to understand other viewpoints and places. For the record, the word want in the mantra, means to exactly what FireProf said. |
| Absolute Naturists What are you doing for Valentines Day? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 13, 2012 |
We are having a Pre-Valentines Day Dance at Natures Resort (13th) with all the valentines frills since they could not book a band to play here on Valentines Day (kinda dumb but it's the thought), and we are going out to a Elvis impersonator show valentines evening with our nudist friends. Valentines day will start out with Strawberry topped Belgian Waffles, roses, and a couple of Mimosas. Then just enjoy the day until evening with Elvis. Should be fun. A little romance is always a good thing, no matter when. C'mon guys, step it up. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 12, 2012 |
Are you doing anything special for Valentines Day? Tell us how you will be spending the day. |
| Absolute Naturists Defining The AN group Intent |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 8, 2012 |
Please read the heading again. Please read the mantra again. Maybe I did not make clear what I was hoping to have a disscussion on in this thread since so far the majority of posts have been about how you define nudity in your life. Let me try again. For this group, how do you interpret the mantra's intent for membership? Again, not about you, about the group. Thanks. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 7, 2012 |
The intent and "mantra" for the Absolute Naturist group here on NCH is: "For people that want to be and live nude." What does that mean to you? |
| Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 6, 2012 |
Thanks for the good words Irish, I appreciate your always well thought out perspectives as I appreciate the many others on here. Do we always agree, hardly, but that is okay as long as we try to head in the same direction to help us get past the roadblocks that stand in our way. When someone offer points of view that consistently go in an opposing direction without ever offering forward alternatives, I think anyone in the room would begin to wonder why they are there and question the value of their input. I think that's when we go and,in this case,went sideways. To continue that negativity does nobody any good here. It is not even stirring the pot, it is just throwing rocks at the marchers. Keep in mind, I said consistently. There are many people on here that want to live nude but can't for whatever reason at this time and that is ok. The difference is that these folks, based on their comments, have not lost sight of that goal. They say lets join hands and try to get there and are willing to provide what they can as they can. They don't just continue to barrage us with reasons why it can't or will never happen. To date I have not removed one person. When someone consistently remains of a negative mindset, I will ask what they are doing here because they do not get the intent. There are many people who are just negative in life, not matter what. I don't think this group needs that. I believe and will always believe change begins with positive thinking. My glass is always half full, not half empty. Some may find fault with the description of this group, but I am relatively sure no matter what words I used they would still fall short with someone. Are the current words broad and inclusive, yes. That's why we have the variety of people on here. But I do believe they are focused in only one direction and mindset which is the desire and goal of being and living nude, whenever and where ever we want. I will continue to believe that the people who remain with this group want this. The point is we need to remove the word "can't" from our vocabulary if we are ever going accomplish the goal. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 5, 2012 |
ok, I'll bite. uhhh, gee I "don't understand".... uhhhh, gee I'm not "making excuses", uhhh... gee, here is a bit of LOGIC for you Gaijin and a few others in this group to consider regarding this thread and the Absolute Naturist group. This is the ONLY group on NCH that is "For people that want to be and live nude". Every other group has a special interest and/or for those who don't or don't want to live nude or can't for whatever reasons. What really defies logic, Gaijin, is persons like you who come on this group and talk at nauseum about why we CAN'T live nude. Who sent you here, the textiles, because they are saying the same thing. The "appropriate locations" terminology as defined and legislated go's against the basic principle of living nude. It is what the textile world tells us and what we have to abide by. Have you heard the term "nudist colony" before. That is an "appropriate location" and do you know why most nudist clubs are out in the sticks, far removed from populated centers, because it is an "appropriate location". Now tell me, for people that want to be and live nude... how does that come close to being logical. I didn't respond to you funeral post because I thought it was stupid. I almost deleted it in fact because it was stupid. Shall we be logical here. In situations like that, you do what is respectful to the person that passed and their family. Would I go to a funeral nude, no, unless it was held at a APPROPRIATE place to be nude. Not likely. To seek a general blanket response and then try to make a statement out of it totally defies logic, intelligence, shows utter disrespect and even more, lack of grasp of what we are talking about. All persons should be respectful, nudist or not. Now that is logical! Again, "Absolute Nudist: For people that want to be and live nude.". Maybe it is time for you and a few others to reevaluate why you are here. Now that is logical! |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 4, 2012 |
ok fellas, before we have any blood shed, let me go back to the original intent. This was always about potential conflicts of interest between national organizations and individual organizations (AANR v Club O). I think it would be terribly naive to NOT believe "sex sells" in advertising and that the majority of persons in the world still think social nudity is all sexually based. Example, the two topics on this group with the highest nuber of views could be consider sex based by title. Nude in Public = 11,748 views, Nudist Women = 8,288 views. Topics on NCH are picked up on any internet search so it is not just NCH people looking, it is the textiles. I think both of you have valid points, just different approaches. Debate is good. The mainpoint of the whole thing as I see is that businesses have to put their best game faces on to attract biz, even if sometimes it maybe a little off kilter. AANR has so many differest constiuents that it becomes even more difficult for them to keep a balance. dammed if you do and dammd if you don't sort of thing. That is not an excudse for them to hide behind but rather an logical understanding of the reality. In the entire scheme of things, this is small stuff and as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. The big picture is getting people to these places (Club O or wherever) to see first hand that we are not all just a bunch of rabbits humping all day long, we are just normal everyday people who enjoy being nude. Am I right? |
| Absolute Naturists Finding A Nudist Mate |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 4, 2012 |
Rhino and Tommy.... one small problem, This is NOT a dating site nor is this a group to assist you to find some one directly. The intent of this was only to share experiences, be they positive or negative, to maybe provide some insight into how to find a nudist mate. You have to do the work, and not on this thread. Thanks. Thanks to all who have shared your experiences. Anyone else? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 3, 2012 |
Group.... I believe my primary job in being the group owner/moderator is to keep people thinking and talking. I believe I do a very good job of that on this group since we are the most active and fastest growing group on NCH. Are my opinions challenging...yes, do my words sometimes get you POed... yes, does my input and posts keep you thinking...yes. Am I weak, well silly you BJJB, I think we all know different. If this style of moderation offends you I apologize but it is the way it is going to be as long as I am running the group. You can choose to be here or not. I have definitely taken my share of shots from many of you, I'm still here so no problem (weak?lol). Actually it's a good thing in a weird way because you were reading, thinking, and saying what you believe. I repect that and applaud you for it. ok, enough said...please continue, blah blah blah. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 3, 2012 |
BareFreedom, There is another thread regarding the Bare-2-Breakers race. I am planning on being there. It would be cool to get a NCH contingent. Why don't you go to it and comment there. This thread has a little different focus. Thanks. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 1, 2012 |
While I like the parade concept, Armadillo, I think I can count only about five of us on here that might be inclined to be in it. Small parade huh. I am constantly dismayed on the number of so called nudists that are afraid to let anybody know, even within their own friends and familys, that they are nudists. I honestly believe they have yet to drop the belief that is is bad and shameful. These so-called nudists tend to want to always hang on our nude coattails dragging us down and preventing us from getting anywhere. I believe Bowser spoke to that. I wish so many times that they would just return to their place of comfort in the textile world. Frankly, I will and have done things that I believe help move us all to a better mentality for allowing nude living to exist and become a legal civil right. How we get the chickens and wannabes out of the equation is the real challenge. There are a majority of people on this sight, and possibly even in this group who would not participate in any open action to promote nude civil rights.... and that's a fact. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 30, 2012 |
Whoooaaaa, our member Bill Bowser just nailed this one BIG TIME in AANR's Febuary issue of The Bulletin in the Letter to the Editor. GOOD JOB Bill!!! If we all took a step like this things might begin to change and nudists would have say in what is appropriate locations to be nude. Personally I think everywhere is appropriate to be nude as long as you are being appropriate while you are nude. If you have a copy of The Bulletin, read Bill's letter and tell us what you think. Bill... I'm in! |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 30, 2012 |
yep, I heard that Spain kinda closed it's doors to nudity. Anybody have any info on that or any other countries doing the same and why. Is the US on the verge of opening it's tolerance levels? SF or NYC? just a thought... |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 30, 2012 |
Now wouldn't that be nice if shopping at Cap was just an every day sort of thing anywhere. I could easily see myself going to a mall and shopping for shoes (heels of course)... wow now that would be great! hmmmmm, I have to work on this.... |
| Absolute Naturists Club Orient New Face Search |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 30, 2012 |
I have heard good things about Club "O" and it looks very nice. This wasn't intended as a beat down... business is business. I do think it is a bit of a conflict for AANR but then again... business is busines. I have not been to Club "O" but maybe someday soon we will get there. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Karaoke - Good for the Naked Soul |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 30, 2012 |
You are abosolutely CORRECT... the most fun ingrediant is the Nude Part. We just finished up a talent show here at Natures Resort and I got a chance to join in on a quartet "The Bare Notes" as we called ourselves and did a couple of classics "Tom Dooley" and "If I had a Hammer". So much fun. If you are ever up in the WA area, LARC is a very active karaoke park. We even specialize in Banzai Karaoke where people just call out a number aand the singer does it, crazy but fun. Really, karaoke is all about having fun with friends (especially nude friends) and it doesn't matter how good you are or not, people are very supportive at nude resorts, and we all just want to have fun. Funny you mentioned Shangri La, where I got my start on a Friday night many years ago. Glad to hear they are still doing it. |
| Absolute Naturists Club Orient New Face Search |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 24, 2012 |
The following request from Club Orient was published recently in the AANR Club /Trustee Weekly Report. Request from Club Orient We are currently in search for "new faces" of Club Orient. As we have done in the past, we only choose real naturists who are in good standing in all naturist organizations/communities to represent all our marketing materials. This year, we decided to request naturist organizations to ask their members to join our search. We wish to get a better representative not only of our resort, but of the naturist community as well. The following are the criteria we are looking for: Must be in good standing with the nudist organization they belong to. Must not have appeared in any unethical or pornographic photography. Between 25-35 years old. No tattoo or very small tattoo is accepted. At least average built. Clean appearance. Must be available for a photo shoot around second week of August. *** What do you think about this search? What do you think about AANR's involvement? Anything else? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 23, 2012 |
For the record, this thread has never been about self-acceptance or personal issues. It has always been intended as a discussion of unhealthy living traits that are frequently apparent at nudist establishments. Textiles have the same issues, they are just covered up better. It is about living healthy and long... that's all. Thanks. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Attract A Younger Crowd |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 23, 2012 |
Kamodo, As the owner of this group and in following your discussion input, I am beginning to seriously wonder if you have confused or lost sight of what this group is all about. It is for the discussion and thought of persons who lead or want to lead a Absolute Naturist (Nude) life. It is not a LGBTI site. There are plenty of other sites dedicated to those discussions and formats, this is not it. You have pretty much divulged that you are not a nudist nor really interested in delving into a nudist mindset or community involvement. My co-moderator and I both agree, as other group members have eluded to as well, that as of late you have not added any constructive ideas or alternative views of various situations or issues that we are dealing with rather you seem to be stuck on the same rhetoric with an LGBTI focus. While I am personally a supporter of most LGBTI causes and issues, that is not what this group is about. In short, I am of the thought that this is not the group for you. There may be other groups here on NCH that maybe better suited to you. Please decide and take appropriate action soon. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Finding A Nudist Mate |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 18, 2012 |
I don't have any questions, I was only expressing my actual experience. I think the key to to findng a nudist mate is perserverance. As I said, yes you have to cull through the numbers and that can be very exhausting and frustrating. Actually when I met Jack online (Single Nudist) I had pretty much given up on finding someone and then, when you least expect it...BANG, there it is. Crazy, I know... but it was well worth hanging in the process. Were we geographically close to each other when we started the online conversation, no. He was in Bellingham WA and I was in Los Angeles CA. We actually met face to face in Palm Springs CA, where I was managing a nudsit resort. Airplanes fly all over, they really really do. Long story short, perserverance works if you are willing to let it and not give up or make excuses. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 18, 2012 |
Geez, did I hear gimmee, gimmee, gimmee. Kamodo, I do appreciate you offering your views and thoughts on here. I always try to look at reponses as educational or enlighting. I do this by reading what others have to say, processing it against my knowledge and belief system and then responding to what they say, not just ignoring and keeping on my merry path with blah blah blah. Anyway, thats how I roll. I say this because you did not. Let's try again. 1)...so have you ever suggested the Spring Break incentive to any clubs you think young people would go to? 2)Have you ever written to AANR suggesting that they put a bug in someones ear about doing that? By no answer to either of these questions in your post, you lead me to believe the answer is NO. Both of these suggestions are very easy to accomplish right from the computer you are using to post your thoughts on here. Once again, "the simple fact is I can't want something more for you than you want it for yourself. It just doesn't work that way." By the way, good try to put it back on me. Do I want a grey retirement nudst home as your eluded to, no I don't and I am constantly working on that as I view the situation. Is it my job, to change that for YOU as you view the situation, NO. It's your job, if you really and truly want that to occur. It is to your benefit. As I also said before, "there comes a time when you need to quit talkin' and start doin', maybe now is that time", again. |
| Absolute Naturists Finding A Nudist Mate |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 17, 2012 |
Thanks for those responses. They are in line of what I was thinking. Let me ask a another question. Have any of you ever considered joining the nudist dating website... SingleNudist.com? It is the the other communication website that Brian (owner of NCH) started many years ago. As with any internet dating site you will have to cull through wackys and bleeding hearts, but if you are really serious about finding a NUDIST mate this could well be a good place to start. The other websites will get you only nudist negative responses because they are not geared to the nudist mindset so don't bother with those. Those folks align nudity with sex. hmmmm, so how would I know these things and why would I make such a suggestion? Here is a little story. After a number of years following my divorce from a non-nudist spouse where social nudity was always an issue, I decided that if I ever got married again it would be with someone who understands and enjoys social nudism. I did the non-nudist oriented dating sites and was trounced upon by guys that wanted to get in this "naked chicks" pants as soon as I mentioned I was a nudist in my profile and wanted to meet someone who was a nudist. I never realized that there would be 15,000 male nudists wanting to meet me in 30 minutes... geez, c'mon what a joke. My now husband and I met on SingleNudist. We live a nudist life and are enjoing every minute of it. Maybe you should try it. It works if you want it to. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 17, 2012 |
ok Kamodo... so have you ever suggested the Spring Break incentive to any clubs you think young people would go to? Have you ever written to AANR suggesting that they put a bug in someones ear about doing that? I believe the answer to those two questions is NO. If I am wrong, my apolgies. I have to agree with FireProf's response earlier in this thread. It seems like the younger folks don't want to do anything themselves... it is just gimme gimme gimme. The two clubs that I am a member at and even my own non-landed club would welcome any suggestions in this regard. C'mon, the simple fact is I can't want something more for you than you want it for yourself. It just doesn't work that way. I don't know of any club administrators that would outright reject any suggestion that would open the door to a new segment of customers like youger folks that could potentially led to their business longevity. Sure there might be a few old grumblers but there always will be grumblers, ignore them. There comes a time when you need to quit talkin' and start doin', maybe now is that time. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 16, 2012 |
Skiflydive, While I can appreciate your frustration with persons who have not experienced the single male discrimination commenting, but to say these members have no business responding is wrong and unacceptable, please do not do it again. All opinions are valuable no matter what and I for one appreciate, maybe not agree, with what all members of this group have to say. You probably never read my Letter to the Editor in the August 2011 AANR Bulletin (thousands of nudists did), but in that letter I spoke to the owner of Gymno-Vita nudist club who openly said he discriminated against single men at his club in a previous Bulletin article. He further declared that AANR has no business telling him anything about that either. His club is NOT a 100% AANR member club so he is right, as a private business owner he can do what he pleases. His he right in my opinion as an independent business, but he is wrong in in the promotion of nudism or the nudist world as a whole. As we all know, some of you having experienced, the only way to combat this mentality is to take action to boycott them and speak out openly against them, not just bitch on sites like this. That's what I did and do whenever the opportunity arises. hmmm, guess what, I have not been directly discriminated in the fashion you spoke so I guess you think I have no business writing here about it or in the AANR Bulletin. Support clubs/resort that don't discriminate... simple as that. The three clubs I am associated with do not discriminate. They are: LARC in Mount Veron,WA; Natures Resort in Edcouch,TX; NorthWest Naturist Boating Club in Bellingham, WA. Maybe members can list clubs that they personally know discriminate or don't. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 11, 2012 |
Almost every day I have requests to join Absolute Naturists. As some of you know it can be a little rough and tumble in the honest discussions we have on here so I guess in that way I find these requests intriguing. As the owner of the group, I would appreciate if each member of this group could share a few words as to why you wanted to join Absolute Naturist. Is it meeting your expectations. What you like or don't like. Any other comments or thoughts would be appreciated as well. Thank you. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Finding A Nudist Mate |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 11, 2012 |
I want to know what EXACTLY are the stumbling blocks you have encountered in this area. The desire/inerest keeps arising in peoples intros/profiles so tell me what's the problem? Is it actually the lack of nudist persons interested or is it you? This applies both ways a far as the sexes are concerned. I think this is an important topic, it was at the bottom of the heap, and I wanted to bring it to the surface again. Let's talk about it, this is your chance to put it out there if you are REALLY interested in finding a Nudist Mate. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 11, 2012 |
I have to say that I am AMAZED by the number of views this topic has received. Over 10,000 views and still growing. Is it the Taboo aspect? The erotic aspect? The sexuality aspect? Obviously a lot of people are looking but I am very sure the majority of these are not nudists. Is this a problem for the nudist/naturist community? Should/Could we exploit it to our benefit? I ask myself these questions when I see things like this...and then lay back nude in the sunshine sipping on some ice tea and say, let them look while I enjoy. What do you think about this? |
| Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 9, 2012 |
How can anyone honestly argue with this statement: "Just because we accept our bodies should not preclude making them better and more healthy. As naturists, shouldnt healthy living be part of what we strive for?" I totally agree with you Armadillo, thanks. That is what this topic was originally all about. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 7, 2012 |
Cyn, Thanks for your comment, you are a lovely and brave lady for taking a row with us scruffs. We need more input from the women in this group to truly get a balanced perspective. I appreciate all you have to say and thank you very much. Please continue. Am I right Guys?! SB |
| Absolute Naturists Why Can't We Decide... |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 7, 2012 |
Gosh FireProf, I just can't resist commenting on your post. xSkater said in another topic that we needed a little more LOL on here and I think he is right. So here go's: (please don't take offense) FP: Most people don't like to be "looked at" or "talked about." SB: Unless you are in Hollywood. FP: Take for instance a recent comment made about being "almost nude" in public. If a female goes into the super market wearing a caftan (?) and flip flops and NOTHING else...is she looked at differently as the woman who is wearing a dress or pants and top? SB: Depends how much cleavage is showing. Cleavage seems to always win in that contest. FP: I would think that lots of men would be following the woman around the store in the caftan wondering..."what's she got on under that thing!" SB: No, actually just the security guys wondering what may be getting stuffed under there. It was me, remember, and I was there. FP: How many times have any of us ever gone someplace and said to ourselves...or those with us..."what the hell is that person wearing!?" SB: Many times... but always at WalMart. FP: There are those with tatoos and piercings. They are noticed, talked about, joked about...even spoken negatively about... SB: Not at a Biker Rally, Nosireee, and it doesn't matter what you are wearing or not wearing. Always a bad ending in that book. FP: Think the vast majority of people just want to blend in the sea of humanity and not be that bright red bouy with the dinging bell, standing out their alone. SB: Ouch, did I hear sunburn somewhere on the body. More SPF please, especially there. Bright Red Bouy, dinging bells... wow that hurts to even think about it. FP: Those that are willing to be bouy's are special people and many of those not wanting that attention...sit back and wish they could but...as is evident...there aren't many of those buoy's out there. SB: But it is always a cozy little party, isn't it. Thanks FireProf, I enjoyed this little escaped. Hope you and everyone else does as well. Your comment, on a serious note is appreciated and true. ;) backatcha! |
| Absolute Naturists Anonymity and the Naturist Movement |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 7, 2012 |
Not a problem... I think we are on the same page as far as FB and I appreciate your words. One of my nieces, family right, graduated from San Diego State Univ. a couple of years ago. She was very popular (not to mention incredibly attractive) at SDSU, consequently had almost the entire SDSU studentbody as friends in FB. If I left my profile open, all these people (about 8,000+) would have access to me or what ever I communicated. I am not really interested in that. To me, that is the flaw with things like FB when applied to the non college student body population that it was originally designed for. Did you see the movie, Social Network? The friends thing on there just doesn't work for me and I just don't have the mental capacity (ugggh)or desire to sit at my computer all day with FB. I don't have an Iphone either...don't need it, don't want it. It's called retired and having fun. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 7, 2012 |
John, let me apoigize for my abruptness, I am sure you meant your post in jest. Thank you for ignoring my comment. I had a bunch of irriateing boogeys on me when I responded. No matter, still no excuse, sorry. You are one of the few on AN that provides solid thoughtful input and I appreciate that. I look forward to your continuance and willingness to provide comment. again, mea culpa. As far as your post, it does dovetail into this media concept and how we react to it. What does a "friend" really mean? What do we feel comfortable sharing with strangers? I believe we have another topic about that. It is a good discussion. Maybe we can resurrect that topic. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 7, 2012 |
I do not judge. I do not hide. I speak my mind. I think for myself. I take responsibility or my own actions. Don't put your stuff on me. If anything in this thread or any others has hit a nerve, maybe you need to evaluate that if you so desire. I try to initiate topics on this AN group that encourages people to think outside of their boxes. To hear other persons viewpoints and possibily gain from them. Does it challenge some people, yes it does. Is that a bad thing, I think not but that is your call. That is why the Absolute Naturist group here on NCH is the most popular and active group. Look at the stats, they don't lie. Read the group mantra, it says it right there. That is the purpose of internet sites like this. If you don't want to allow yourself to hear other viewpoints or be challenged in your opinions, maybe this group is not good for you. There are many other sites that you can share pictures and pleasantries... even here on NCH. |
| Absolute Naturists Anonymity and the Naturist Movement |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 7, 2012 |
I am not fan of Facebook. I rarely go to it. Actually I have not even looked at that account in at least a month. I am only there so I can keep in touch easily with some family members and a few close friends. I am not interested in having 100's of "friends". I don't have the time or patience to play games on there and tell everybody about mindless nonsense. If anybody in the nudist arena really wants to contact me there are plenty of other places. I am in the AANR Bulletin fairly frequently, twice in the January issue. I am co-owner of a nudist boating club with a website. Facebook has nothing to do with my principles or me. I am not a heard mentality type and in my opinion that is what Facebook is really all about. Anything else John? |
| Absolute Naturists Why Can't We Decide... |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 6, 2012 |
Roll this around in your head... there would be no Nudist Resorts...just Resorts for relaxation and enjoyment as you deem fit. |
| Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 6, 2012 |
Now who is waving the Judgment Flag? Sounds like the flag is being used as an excuse again. If you re-read the original topic post and reiterated several times there after, this was never about those who had physical background challenges to weight...NEVER! This was never about judgment...NEVER!Actually I said “Body Acceptance is one of the mantras of social nudity and in my view a very good thing.” We are all human and all different, what is so hard to get about that. I get it and I think everyone else on here does as well. Let's get real, if this topic is troubling to you, you are choosing to personalize it rather than be proactive and discuss the issues of the topic. If you have ever gone to a nudist club and not seen somebody who is extremely overweight and very physically unfit, you have your eyes closed. Let's take the emotion out of the equation and talk about the original issue which is “when does body acceptance give license to be grossly fat, unhealthy and not a subscriber of even minimal physical fitness”. If this offends you...read this again. |
| Absolute Naturists Why Can't We Decide... |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 5, 2012 |
In my opinion... I think the whole point of what this woman is saying, and why I posted it, is why have we let ourselves fall into the trap of letting others determine our behaviors of style or dress. It is really not about Nudism. It is about the mindless heard mentality without thought or challenge. We have been condition and act daily within this mindless conditioning. How mindless is this. I think it is always good to every so often stop our own little worlds and think about the things we do on a daily basis without even thinking. Change of action begins with change of thinking. Being a nudist has nothing to do with this. I like to be nude, fine. I like to wear nice clothes, fine. I like to wear casual and comfortable clothes,fine. No big deal. BUT I Decide what I want to do in this regard. The legal system, society, religious entities, and the politcs of all these infringe in my right to freedom in this respect. Why, because of a unchallenged belief by the masses that the human body is lewd and offensive. Consequently I am forced to live in a walled compound to live nude when I want to. We only have the illusion of freedom. How wrong is that... think about it, if you can. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 5, 2012 |
... to wear clothes or not? Its a good question I think. What do you think? naked rant 2 - clothes by nudemuse |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 3, 2012 |
Thanks Skiflydive, It is an excellent article. I hope most of you read it. By the way I do have a pair of Black Heels if it helps. I am trying to think of something I can have printed on a T-Shirt that speaks to this almost backdor approach. Anybody have any ideas? |
| Absolute Naturists New Year Nude Plans... Not Resolutions |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 3, 2012 |
My plan is to keep spreading the word that being Nude is a Good Thing. I am going to carry a few AANR and Naturist Society phamplets with my name and email address labeled on them everywhere I go and if and when someone asks I will simply give them one of the info pieces. That way the can check out more info if they want to at their convienence, absorb and think about how they can fit the concept in their lives at their pace, explore it on their own time, contact me for more info if they like and talk about it with their own friends in a more knowledgable way if they want. It is a passive way, but I think a powerful way of passing the word. Hope it works. |
| Absolute Naturists Most Fun While Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 3, 2012 |
Tell us about the Most Fun you ever had while totally nude. It can be anything, indoors, outdoors, with others, by yourself, really just anything... as long as you were having the most fun you can ever remember while you were nude. Tell us about it...Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists New Year Nude Plans... Not Resolutions |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 27, 2011 |
What are your thoughts and plans for this coming year in the realm of nudity? What are you doing New Years Eve? It seems like every year I have ask this question and many are all Gung-Ho to make resolutions to change and be more active with their nude life... but like with diets, it doesn't happen. So forget the nude resolutions...what are you really going to do in 2012? Please share your thoughts. |
| Absolute Naturists Your Best Christmas Memories... What are they? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 24, 2011 |
When I was a little kid I remember my parents would wait until Christmas Eve to put the presents under the tree, after I had gone to sleep. In the days prior, I would be all bummed because there would be no or very few presents under the tree. I would make every attempt to talk to all the Santa's I would see at the stores to convince then I had been good all year just as an insurance back up plan. It was always so exciting to get up Christmas morning to find lots of presents under and around the tree. Looking back as an adult, there really weren't that many presents but in a little kid eyes there were lots and lots. I still smile fondly when I think of those mornings. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 21, 2011 |
In your entire life, what are your best/fondest memories of Christmas? Please share if you like. We wish all of you a wonderful Christmas. SunBunny & FireProf |
| Absolute Naturists Anonymity and the Naturist Movement |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 15, 2011 |
Who is SunBunny? Who is FireProf? Who is Luxorsecurity? These are anonymous nicknames of persons who have used their real names on this site and/or other nudist publications, that's who they are. One of the greatest detriments to making public and social nudity a reality is anonymity, which this and many other nudist sites encourage or require. In the Editors Note of the newest issue (31.1) of "N" Nude & Natural magazine published by The Naturist Society this subject is addressed. Please read it if you can or get a copy of this issue ($9 from TNS). Here are a some quotes from the article: "Anonymity has the appearance of lack of committment to one's stated beliefs and approach to living." "In the first year's of the 21st century...we have seen a troubling trend among the socially naked wishing to have their name obscured." "Every publication that regulary allows reference to anonymous abbreviations or nick names is tacitly urging it's readers to hide as if they were doing something wrong". What are your thoughts on this topic? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 15, 2011 |
One of the greatest detriments to making public nudity a reality is anonymity, which this and many other nudist sites encourage. We need to change this in our thinking, our actions, and our publication continuance. Another new topic coming up. Cassandra Bazhaw, aka SunBunny |
| Absolute Naturists True Marks of a Leader, What are they? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 15, 2011 |
In your opinion and thinking, please describe what you would view as true marks, traits or indicators of a Leader. What would you look for, from all angles, in a person if you needed a leader to pursue a near and dear project of yours? |
| Absolute Naturists Introvert or extrovert? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 15, 2011 |
I appreciate all the valid points and demonstrated experiences that have been shared by "introverts" who have been called upon to serve in leadership positions. It offers greater clarity to my post of earlier and provides more validity. What I have heard is that when someone with a introverted personality type is called upon to serve in a leadership position, they are able and can serve, maybe even admirably. Now here is where the cheese get's binding. I have yet to hear, see or experience a person with an introverted personality take a first step into an unknown to make something happen, to step into the firing line of either unknown consequence or potentially negative consequence to bring an issue or reality to fruition. I have personally known this type of person and personality trait and they are far from introverts. They may be quiet and inner thinkers, but not intoverts. There my friends is the difference in my opinion. This thread has led to a very good discussion for another topic specifically about leadership which I will post. Thanks for all your input. Keep it going. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 13, 2011 |
Ok,no, I did not misunderstand...I know he said he prefers clubs that are within the keeping of positive social nudity, not swinging and junk. That is to his credit and speaks positively to his upbringing. It sounds like he is the type of person who we seek in continuing the future of social nudity. What I was trying to relay is that using those terms only serves to piss off the pope in the big picture. The old folks are in charge, c'mon lets get real. I don't care what the age preferred dialect is... the old folks will hear that as disrepectful and probably rebuff anything he has to say. His style of writing is hard to understand because it was a very backdoor approach so I had to read what he was saying several times to try to figure it out (and I am no dummy), I got it. There was a very good article in the recent "N" magazine put out by The Naturist Society (TNS) speaking to this exact issue of attracting the younger set. There are alot of things that can be done in any club or resort to make them more attractive to younger persons but I just don't think calling them Stogy or Puritanical in any manner is going to help the cause. Words are powerful and sometimes I don't think the younger generations uderstand that. I would appreciate HarryJ's take on this if he is so inclined, or anybody else's for that matter. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 13, 2011 |
Isn't this really the "Ultimate Goal" for this group. I know there are many of us who understand that but in another thread it appears that we have some still lost souls. We have another thread title "What is an Absolute Nudist?" which also speaks to this in a more clarifying approach. The discussion in the thread that got me thinking about achieving the "Ultimate Goal" of being and living nude led me back to this topic. To acheive a goal, the goal should be clear and understood by all. In my opinon there is nothing vague about the stated goal. Our individual and collective approach or method in getting there may be different, yet the core goal remains the same. What do you think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 13, 2011 |
I am not sure I would use the words "stogy" or "puritanical" to decribe an orgaization like AANR that promotes without eception safe, healthy, wholesome, respectful and welcoming social and recreational nudity. Maybe we are saying the same things from an age different perspective. Clubs that promote and/or allow open sexuality, swinging, and disrepectful behaviors onle serve to degrade the positive aspect of social and recreational nudity. They should never be allowed to carry the AANR or TNS brand. A more important point to consider in your post Harry J is the use of words and how they are perceived by all ages or nudists, especially those that have been around much longer than you. It sounds like you are begining to get a good grasp of wholesome family oriented social nudity, yet name calling and labeling may overshadowed that. For the future and to all the benefit you may bring in your thoughts, please think about the descriptive words you are thinking before inking them. Thanks for contributing. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Introvert or extrovert? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 13, 2011 |
Not labels... thought provoking conversation and debate. It helps everybody gain new prespective and keep growing. Try it barefreedom. Do you have anything of substance to contribute? SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 12, 2011 |
Dave88, I cannot advise you on what you can do to reach your ultimate goal nor anyone elses for that matter. That is not my job here. As for the Absolute Naturists group here on NCH, the ultimate goal is simple (read the description): To be and live nude. That is what I referred to in my previous post. There are many topics on this group to help you out with that and you as well as everybody else are more than welcome to ask questions or seek insight to acomplish that goal if you are truly interested. |
| Absolute Naturists Introvert or extrovert? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 12, 2011 |
mea culpa Smokey... but I believe you categorized yourself previously not as just an "introvert" but rather as a "Hardcore Introvert". Maybe you need to reconsider that before jumping on my case. Whatever I guess, but I do agree that our human natures do provide a vast array of extensions within which to view and live life. Some of us are more fluid in the way we encounter daily life. However, in all my teachings in psychology, this is a psycholical trait that is inherent in ones core system and is not changeable, only varied or adapted by degree of given external experiences. I believe BillBowser started this thread to explore how we view our personalities and consequently how we choose to interact with others. It is an interesting thread as FireProf has stated and not the typical gooblygook usually found in this type of site. Topic postings such as this are always welcomed here on Absolute Naturists. Thanks for posting it BillBowser. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 11, 2011 |
As I have followed this thread somewhat quizical. I keep coming back to an interesting observation. The only two persons who so far consider themselves, by whatever equation, as Extroverts are the same ones leading this Group, FireProf and myself. The simple deduction that could be made is that Introverts are not given to leadership. They have a greater comfort level as supporters, be they strong or weak, but will not put themselves on a firing line inthe same way a leader needs to do. That's ok since it is very difficult for a group leader to lead without a group. It makes sense, look at most all the leaders in any grouping, and NCH is no exception, they usualy are extroverts if you read or listen to their words. While I have no issues with public speaking or openly giving my thoughts and opinions on any given subject, I do believe there are those who may be equally passionate about a subject but for whatever reasons cannot openly express that but yet will support it to the end. I can appreciate and respect that. In many ways that is why we have sites such as these, so you can express your views in the comfort of your own world and make your statement. It works, it's cool. It's just that I really never thought about it before and relieves me of some frustration in trying to understand why many of you are not greater activist, especially in a group that requires activism to reach it's ultimate goal. It is very easy for me to do it and not so easy with a introvert personality, I get it. Thanks for opening my eyes a little wider on this very human subject. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Fun in the Winter |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 11, 2011 |
My Dearest FuzzyBare, uhhhh, ummmm, NO! I will leave it to you PolarBares to have the fun in freezing temps, heck, I mean someone has to do it...and it ain't gonna be me, for sure for sure. You do bring up a good point though, it IS possible to enjoy your nudity in the colder temps so I think your message is a good one. If you cannot make it to a warmer clime in the cold drudges of winter... then find some warm pond water and jump in naked, yeah baby! Have a good time, enjoy the beautiful snow and stay nude. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 8, 2011 |
That would be: -> Outdoor Hottubing when snowing = No -> Outdoor Sauna-ing when snowing = No -> Anything else outdoors when it is SNOWING...uhhh NO! I am sure those are all some unique and maybe wonderful experiences but I am in South Texas playing water volleyball when snow people are shoveling. Thanks for thinking about me. SunBunny |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 8, 2011 |
Extrovert here... hard guess huh. But I do think if anybody can't count their "real friends" (and please don't disect this you intro's) on more than one hand they are not introverts or extroverts... just dang lucky. Fun Topic, Thanks! SB |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 7, 2011 |
Support it or Loose it... simple as that. To BillBowser, photon7378, 1Human, Smoothalx... thank you for your continued support, we are in good company. Your words speak volumes. SB |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 6, 2011 |
Having just received the latest issue of "N" magazine, the Naturist Society's publication, and reading through the many interesting and educating articles I thought about this post... and in a dishearten way. Why disheartened? Because of a cover letter informing readers that TNS had to let go one of their fantastic staff members due to buget shortages. Their budget is based on membership dues and monetary contributions. Obviously these are not keeping up with rising expenses. On NCH, and this AN Group more specifically, we "blab" about how much we appreciate nude recreation and would enjoy the ability to live nude as much as possible. Yet, we seem to put those organizations that promote nude living and defend our rights to be nude on the back burner as if they are not important. We make excuses for not becomng members of these same organization that support you no matter. Maybe I am closer to these organizations than many of you since I have regular conversations with their staff people on a variety subjects and provide input to them when ask for it. I appreciate and support these organizations and all the work they do for me and my desire to live and recreate nude. My hubby and I are members of both these organizations and support them as much as we can. For the price of a carton of cigarettes you can support and become a member of either TNS or AANR for a year and it is much better for your health. For less than the cost of a new replacement cell phone that you don't need you can support and become a member of either TNS or AANR for a year and you will still get all your phone calls. If you consider yourself to be an Absolute Naturist, if you enjoy the ability to be nude in the wonderful outdoors, if you enjoy the ability to recreate and socialize with nude friends, if you would like national organizations to support and help you should the law someday swope down on you... Support these organizations with your membership dollars. It is simply a matter of priorities...where are yours? Please join or at least buy something from them. Every dollar helps. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 4, 2011 |
My suggestion to everyone in the group who reside in a cold winter doldrums... Get the "H" out of there, even for just a few days and go somewhere warm and sunny. It works wonders for depression and the shivers and it is not that hard to do... if you really make your mind up to do it and not make excuses. |
| Absolute Naturists Like Minded - What Does That Really Mean? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 1, 2011 |
Excellent discussion folks... keep it up. I think you are all getting the point of the topic. We use this "like minded" term so loosely that some could be lulled into thinking we all came from the same pea pod. Not so bucko. ok, I am going to have some cookies now too... |
| Absolute Naturists The Nudist Click Moment |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 29, 2011 |
Any new "Click Moments" from anyone? I know we have lot's of new members in the group that we have not heard from. How about a few words on this topic, it is an easy one and I think we have all had one of these moments. Please share. |
| Absolute Naturists If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace? |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 29, 2011 |
You are right, the whole hoop-tee-do was about being nude in eating establshments and using towel when you sit on a public bench and yes it was focused on the gay district...HOWEVER, the fact remains that public nudity is not illegal ANYWHERE in San Francisco. What that means is that next time I am in San Francisco, I can be nude anywhere I want to be, outside of a food place, and don't have to worry about being arrested. That's a big step. I could probably just wear a sarong in Starbucks and be good too. I really don't care if it becomes commonplace or not, it would be just nice to be able to be nude with no hassles. |
| Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 29, 2011 |
As much as I don't like to think this, Ladies... I think the guys are right. The majority of women ARE NOT WILLING to go topless in public. In fact, women are becoming the greater non-supporters of the right to be top-free. I would really like to hear WHAT YOU WOMEN ARE THINKING about on this topic. This question is aimed at ALL women on NCH, not just in this group. This is a challenge. |
| Absolute Naturists Supporting Nude Living |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 29, 2011 |
What can you do to support and promote nude living? What have you done? What can you do today? Are you really willing to do what you can to make this happen? If you truly have the desire to live nude, as the mantra of this group states, you are going to have to do more than just talk about it or do a few random neighborhood excursions. Let's hear from all of you in this group. |
| Absolute Naturists Introduce Yourself |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 29, 2011 |
SimplyLiving, thank you for sharing your wonderful story and being part of our group. As I read your intro I thought, what a perfect place you have for a Nudist B&B, Non-Landed Club or a Mini-Resort. I would really like your input on the two topics related to that here in Absolute Naturist. Welcome to the group. SB |
| Absolute Naturists If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace? |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 29, 2011 |
I see my daily life in a nudist community as a microcosm of what the world would be like if we did not put such intense focus on nudity. Most of the hype, sexualization and demonizing would likely go away. Would everybody be nude 24/7, of course not. You probably would not even regard it as commonplace, just not a big deal. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude In Public |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 23, 2011 |
Well how about almost nude in public... As I have probably said from time to time, the downside of living in nude resorts 24/7 is that you really have a tough time (mentally) getting dressed to go to the store or somewhere like that. Finally I hit upon an idea, and it can work for men also but moe so for women, when a ran across a website that had Caftans from Bali. I have bunches of Pareos (sarongs) but they fit loose and in the Texas winds would surely blow open so they are not a good solution. These Caftans are colorful, One size fits all so they are roomy and very comfortable, slip over your head easily and quickly, and you can be totally nude underneath and know one will probably ever know. As soon as you get back to your nudie place, slip it back over your head and you are nude again...simple. I just got back from getting stuff for TG at the local market, wore my Caftan totally nude underneath, and it was great. Got back and within 2 minutes I was nude again....yippeeee. I have to say, it was kinda fun being almost nude at the grocery store with all the other shoppers never even suspecting. One lady even admired my colorful Caftan because they are a little unusual here in TX. She said it look really comfortable... she had no idea just how comfortable it was. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Karaoke - Good for the Naked Soul |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 21, 2011 |
The first time I sang karaoke at a nudist place was ShangriLa in AZ many years ago. I still think they do it on Friday nights. I was scared to death to sing... until I finished my 5th Martini and then had at it. Since then, I karaoke anywhere and everywhere... nude or not, and have lot's of fun with it. My experience is that karaoke is for FUN and part of the fun is singing badly and laughing about it at the same time. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Karaoke - Good for the Naked Soul |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 20, 2011 |
Have you ever? Would You Like To? Let's talk about it and share. Singing Karaoke Naked (not in the the shower either) in front of a crowd can be a freeing experience for the soul. Let's have fun with this one. Please share your thoughts...EVERYBODY! SB |
| Absolute Naturists Benefits of The Non-Landed Nudist Club |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 17, 2011 |
The most critical part of a non-landed club is the leadership. As Cheri said, and as I have experienced from our non-landed club, without the constant activity by the leader... member activity drops off. Something to think about if you want to start a non-landed club. Oh yeah, one more thing, you are probably not going to get monetarily wealthy from all the work you have to do. There are other payoffs though... |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Fun in the Winter |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 17, 2011 |
What can you do or have you done during the winter months (brrrrr) that is FUN and keeps your nudist/naturist side out of hibernation? Please share, your ideas or past experiences just might help one of us enjoy a nude winter. Now Go For It! |
| Absolute Naturists Hot Tubs and Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 16, 2011 |
Who still go's in you asked... well I don't, I won't, nope not gonna... germies are germies dead or alive. Even some medical people I know don't advise it, especially public hot tubs. I prefer cool water anyway, especially in Hot Texas. |
| Absolute Naturists Clothing Optional |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 16, 2011 |
As some of you might guess, I am not a fan of C/O - BUT - Our boating non-landed nudist club is boldly listed on our website as Clothing Optional with the caveat that nude is strongly encourage at club events. Why, exactly for the same reason the Travelites do it and also as FrireProf spoke of. If it gives people an opportunty to stick their toes in, why be hardass about it... right? That's the way I roll anyway. |
| Absolute Naturists Gender Change and Nudist Clubs/Resorts |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 14, 2011 |
Smokey, You got it right on so many levels as you always seem to do. Thanks! In the November 2011 issue of AANR's The Bulletin, AANR President Susan Weaver even made a comment about Transgender. She said, " One friend who planned to go through a transgender experience told me he found it easier to talk to me because I was not judgemental". So there it is, as I said in a post earlier, you are going to start hearing and seeing more about gender transitions and I think it and would behoove us all to get onboard with this issue. |
| Absolute Naturists Hot Tubs and Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 14, 2011 |
Have you ever thought about what could be swirling around in the water of a Hot Tub at your local nudist club? Why are we so quick to PooPoo sitting on a chair without a towel, but never give a blink to being in a Hot Tub where many people have been in and the water is basically recirculated and change very infrequently. What do you think about this? |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Cruises |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 14, 2011 |
Guapo, Your a good man, La Loca is lucky to have you! Hubby and I are contemplating going on that cruise. I know y'all are going to enjoy yourselves. Anybody else thinking of doing that cruise? There is a full page spread on the back cover of the November issue of the AANR Bulletin. Also you can go to CRUISENUDE.COM for info. Cruise date is February 9-17, 2013. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Nude Winter - Fun things to do |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 13, 2011 |
Name some fun things that you can do during the winter months in the NW? This can be anything in the area or getting out of the area. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Cruises |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 12, 2011 |
I checked with a few friends that have been on nude cruises (I have not been on one) and they said that YES you get dressed in the dining room. They said some women wear sheer elegant cover ups or dresses but the guys where pants or shorts and shirts. At the casual outside dining areas nude is the norm unless you are in port where they may require you to be dressed. I guess the dressing in the dining room, which applies to all meals served there, and especialy on the Captain's Dinner Night where it is usually always formal, go's along with the nude etiquette thing. It is not a Ballroom, it is a Dining Room. Just what I have heard... so there you go. |
| Absolute Naturists Simply Living Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 8, 2011 |
Yes I am fortunate to be able to live nude as I do, but that is not what I was getting at. I guess my point, for lack of a better way of saying it, is that this type of interaction is possible and quite normal when you remove the issue of sex from the equation. This is what we all need to strive for in our convictions, beliefs and everyday actions if we want it to happen. I do hope that one day you can enjoy nude living as I do. It is an unbelievable life. |
| Absolute Naturists Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 8, 2011 |
The Vote is in: SF Board of Supervisors voted 11 to 0 to ban nudity in resturants but still maintain that it is legal to be nude in public in the City. The sitting on towels is also part of the law. This was a public safety health issue based law. I don't know how y'all feel about it but I like it. It is what we nudist's do anyway. The story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057309/San-Fransisco-law-change-means-nudist-cover-up.html |
| Absolute Naturists Simply Living Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 8, 2011 |
I had an intresting experience the other day which speaks to the essence of this topic. We are now living at our home in the nudist park in Texas. It is a NUDIST community, not a Clothing Optional. We do have local contractors and other craft people come into our small community. They are not nudists but know we are. Anyway, we are thinking of having an addition to our home but not quite sure what yet. So the contractor and I were walking around our patio area discussing different ideas and taking wall measurements... me completely nude, him dressed. It was no big deal either way and looking back at the moment, it was the perfect example of Simply Living Nude. I just wish my hubby had taken a picture... it was so normal that it would have been priceless. |
| Absolute Naturists Teaching You Children About Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 6, 2011 |
Our children are our future and our legacy. They listen to you, watch you, learn from you and mimic you. You are their teachers of value systems and guiding light of right and wrong. What are you teaching your children (or grandchildren) about nudity, social nudity and recreation nudity? (I made a similiar post on Family Nudists months back but I wanted to get our groups opinions, and I know you have opinions...Thanks!) |
| Absolute Naturists Gender Change and Nudist Clubs/Resorts |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 4, 2011 |
I was wondering if this topic would gain much traction... and it hasn't. Maybe because we, as a society, cannot grasp the diffence between a person's gender and sex or the difference between gender and sexual orientation. There are serious homophobes in the world and also in the nudist community. The amount of posts on this topic speaks volumes. I have to say, this is the first topic that Gaijin, Armadillo, Billyjoejimbob, FireProf and I are in accord... how strange yet how good that is. I appreciate those of you who have responded courageously and honestly. That is what this group is all about. I would sure like to hear from more of you on this because it is quickly becoming a reality at clubs across the world and you need toget your ducks sorted out about it because you are going to encounter it someday no matter where you live. |
| Absolute Naturists Introduce Yourself |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 4, 2011 |
Debbie's Quote: "I am wondering where are all the WOMEN on this site!? Does this reflect the gender division on this whole site or just here? It makes me sad when men tell me THEY like to be nude but their wives/girlfriends won't do it! I wish I could tell those women that ALL NUDE WOMEN ARE BEAUTIFUL AND POWERFUL!!" Debbie, I think you just did tell them and I totally agree with you. Please join me in encourageing women in our group and on the entire NCH system to add their words and viewpoints. It is important. We have women heading up AANR, The Naturist Society and even as club officers at many AANR regions and independent nudist clubs. Why don't we hear more from them here? Your guess is as good as mine but let's keep trying. Welcome to Absolute Nudist, the fast growing and most active group on NCH. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 4, 2011 |
By what I have read staying within the absolute wording... yes. In actual practice, kinda doubt it. Now with that legal opinion and $16 you can buy a muffin at the a US Justice Dept conference. I hear they like muffin tops too. |
| Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 4, 2011 |
Gaijin, BIG DIFFERENCE between ME posting pictures of myself on sites like this and SOMEONE ELSE posting pictues of me on the WORLD WIDE INTERNET that I did not know they took or gave permission for them to take or post. Ther is NOTHING EXAGGERATED about that. I hope you are smart enough to realize that. Maybe not... This is not a topic to start a game of semantics, it is about a real problem and issue for the nudist community. One that comes up all the time in the Nudist world. What is so hard to get about that. Why do nudist clubs/reorts have policies about not taking photos with out permission or even taking pictures at all. If someone wants to go to a nudist beach and enjoy the sun and fresh air and let their kids play in the water without bathing suits, why should they be deprived of that and NOT do it because someone might take an UNIVITED and Non-Permitted picture of you, your family, your wife, or your kids. WHY? By your own actions, as you have stated, you are stopping your kids from doing that. Is that right? I guess you think it is and by that action you allow the problem to continue. Your choice, you can do whatever you want but don't try to speak for me or others who have experienced the issue. Just because I am a nudist and choose to practice my desire to live nude and be where it is appropriate does not make me a willing participant of uninvited picture taking. Geez, c'mon get real. That is the problem this topic was getting at. I do not intend to, or do I think anybody should need to get in a debate about your DEFINITIONS. This subject post is not about you or anybody else. Let's get back to discussions on the entire Topic of the post PLEASE. |
| Absolute Naturists Benefits of The Non-Landed Nudist Club |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 2, 2011 |
What benefits, if any, can nudists be provided by the Non-Landed Nudist Club structure? Many times here on AN we hear complaints about nudist clubs being to far away or to expensive. So I wanted to open a discussion about often smaller more local non-landed or travel nudist clubs. How do they or could they fit in world? Have you ever thought about starting one? Your thoughts please... For clarification, Non-Landed is a term used to describe a nudist club that dosen't have a permanent location. They are also referred to as "travel clubs" because their activities involve traveling, even if it is just to the other side of town. |
| Absolute Naturists Home Nudists: Walking the Talk |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 31, 2011 |
Thanks for your post Metal. We have many topics here on AN and I look forward to hearing your thoughts in the future. Actually you may want to post one on "Introduce Yourself", which you kinda did here. Anyway, To keep this post on track, the original question was about self-described Home Nudists who pontificate at nauseam on the joys of nudism and yet will not attempt to step out of the confines of their own home to enjoy real nudism. Any new responses to why this is or how you feel about it? |
| Absolute Naturists NCH Friends & Friend Requests |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 29, 2011 |
TexasnNewd, I appreciate your attempt at restraint... I really really do. I also clearly appreciate your position on boobs being a difficult thing to keep your hands off since they are in your face marketed everywhere and tend to make things hard on a guy, my sympathies. You are also correct that the focus many women put on them is incredible. Not a bad thing, just incredible. But boobs are not the point... "pawing" is the point. I am a big girl and I don't need FireProf to defend me on this but a little self control is always a good thing by the men who pounce on women with friend requests. My point is I try to be nice and by not denying all the friend requests but when you really think about it, what is the point of the majority of these friend requests and what value is in it for me. In general, I get a little "icky" feeling about men who's list of friends only include women. Do I want to be part of that stable, no I don't. What do you think about these "ickies"? Tex, it is always nice to hear from you in your usual blunt and real manner, I always know where you are at on any given subject. Actually, I kinda enjoy your grasp on reality and courage to be non-PC. Also, as equally hard to believe, AN members read these posts on weekends so no duckin' out big guy. |
| Absolute Naturists NCH Friends & Friend Requests |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 28, 2011 |
From a another woman's viewpoint, "friends on NCH" is very different than from what most of you guys have said. Let me blunt. From my perspective, very few of the men on here really want to form a social friendship with me, they just really want to look at my pictures. I think maybe the same applies to Blondie. Why do the majority want to look at our pictures... well you can use your imaginations. I guess there are some women on here that like that for whatever reasons but some of us women don't appreciate being "pawed". It is a real turn-off and speaks to the sexualization of websites like this one. As mentioned by BlondieNC and FireProf, women get bashed by friend requests as well as profile views. An example is my Friend Request level exceeds my husbands by several hundreds. My Profile Views exceed his by THOUSANDS. Need I say more. Yes I am probably a more visible person here on NCH so that would explain some of it but DANG people, something else has to be working also. I do appreciate the sincere requests for friendships and the nice conversations some of us have had so don't get the wrong impression. I am in the process of trimming down my "friends" here on NCH, nothing personal for the most part, just doing what I need to do for me. |
| Absolute Naturists Gender Change and Nudist Clubs/Resorts |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 28, 2011 |
Should a person who is going or been through gender change be allowed or accepted at a nudist club or resort? I am relatively sure that many of you have never encountered a person going through gender change, be it female to male or male to female. Many of us have only experienced it from TV programs. From this background, a person going from female to male may have a all the physical characteristics of a male except still have a vagina. Opposite this, a male to female may have female characteristis including full breasts but still have a penis. When encountered in a nudist resort, where everything is on display and especially around the pool where there are kids playing, what should be the appropriate way to deal with it? Please put youself from a club owner and a club member perspective in your response. (FireProf, thanks for interesting gender oriented subject from your Topless Equality post.) |
| Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 28, 2011 |
I think I would have to agree Fire Prof, I did get your point but it is a point that falls on deaf ears for the most part. A woman's breasts are still sexualized by men and it carries into the laws which have for centuries has been determined by men. This is not man bashing, it is fact so don't get your panties in a bunch. There are men on this site that fantasize and sexualize a woman's breasts. Another fact is, if an individual feels the need to change their gender, they also must accept the role and laws that are applied to that gender. Sad, but still true... it is The Law! (This does bring up a another good question to post for nudists, thanks!) As far as a husbands breasts being larger than his wifes, well that is a classic case of where size does not matter when it comes to sexually based discrimination. Title VII aims to stop sex discrimanation in the workplace, but our daily living lives, where we spend the majority of our time, is still fair game for discrimination. This is plain stupid. It is an area that will continually be "gray" until we desexualize breasts everywhere and in every medium. Lawmakers and religious systems, that usually influence lawmakers, specifically need to quit this BS. |
| Absolute Naturists What Characteristics Should A Nudist Posses? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 28, 2011 |
The question is: What Characteristics Should A Nudist Posses? This question was posted by a Absolute Naturist group member in a differest post. He said: "We are nothing more than the much maligned " special interest group". Except for our belief that being nude is sometimes preferable to wearing clothes, we don't have very much in common. We can't even agree on what charactistics a nudist should possess.". Your answer and thoughts please? |
| Absolute Naturists Home Nudists: Walking the Talk |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 28, 2011 |
It is not a matter of semantics... it is a matter of where your head and belief system is at. It is a difficult subject but only because very few of us live it and believe it without hiding or shame. I still find it absolutely insane when I encounter persons who seasonally reside at nudist resorts/club but don't want family or friends to know back at their home towns. This is INSANE. Why do the feel the need to hide, do they internally think it is wrong? When it comes to home nudists, some of the conversations almost seem like they are living out a sexually based fantasy, like walking out to the mailbox with the robe open or walking in front of the living room window nude. That's flashing people, not social nudism... get a clue. As far as common characteristics, are there any... really, I mean really really? I don't think so but let's ask the question. Again, this group is for people who understand and desire to live a nude life... because they belive it is beneficial to their well being and they are not ashamed of it in any way. Most on here are still in discovery phase to be polite. Just look at the number of responses on "Are You an Absolute Naturist?" post. Far lower than the actual 600+ members of the group. Go figure. |
| Absolute Naturists NCH Friends & Friend Requests |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 20, 2011 |
What do you see as the point or purpose of "Friends" here on NCH? What value do you derive in this "Facebook" like format on NCH? Do you network with these "Friends"? Let's talk... |
| Absolute Naturists Top 10 Best Nudist Clubs/Resorts/Beaches |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 17, 2011 |
I wanted to bring this up to the surface again, only because many of you have had the opportunity to visit new places or had new experiences with social nudity and nudist places. We also have many new members since this was first posted and their input would be appreciated, might give some of us new ideas for new things to do. Update us please.... |
| Absolute Naturists Talking to the Wall... |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 17, 2011 |
...is exactly what I feel I am doing when the SAME people keep asking me SAME questions about nudist recreation or living? Yet they continue to be the Wall, not gonna do it - not gonna try it - I am a Wall and I don't move so don't even try to change me. So what is the point of continuing to answer their SAME questions about social nudity or nudist clubs? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Should Nudist Club/Resort Office Staff Be Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 12, 2011 |
Should the Office Staff at Nudist Clubs & Resorts be nude or not while working? Does it make a difference if it is a clothing-optional club/resort? The subject arose in a different topic but seems like maybe a good topic for discusssion. What are your thoughts? |
| Absolute Naturists All The Time Or Just On Sunny Days? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 11, 2011 |
It has always puzzled me why someone would go to a nudist resort or a nudist beach and stayed clothed and still claim to be a nudist. It defies logic, but yet it happens. It does pose a certain amount of discomfort to those who are nude, especially women, and that is wrong and disrepectful to the nudists, but yet it still happens. I use to get all hot and bothered about it but then I managed to get above it and take a stance that I was not going to let them upset my nude time so I will ignore them. If they engage me in a disscussion or debate about it I will tell them exactly how I feel and hold no punches. So far they have never engage in a debate with me. I think they have issues with nudity and are disrectful people... not my problem, I will continue to do what makes me happy. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists Offended with Nudity... huh? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 9, 2011 |
Good point Armadillo. I have first hand experience with encountering these same type of textiles in nudist resorts. For those of us secure in our nudist living, we just simply said to the textiles by our actions "you are on our turf now so you play by our rules just as we have to do in yours". If they find it offensive they can leave, simple as that. We do not find our nudity offensive. A nudist who says they do not want to offend others is really more just saying I am insecure and/or not accepting of being a nudist. One foot in, one foot out. |
| Absolute Naturists All The Time Or Just On Sunny Days? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 9, 2011 |
Bauhausnude, I would really prefer that the word "hate" never be used in any of our topics, it is an ugly word and one that I, as the group owner, never want directed or spoken of in relation to another human by any of our members no matter what your feelings. This applies to any topics by any member of this group. Your cooperation is appreciated in this regard. *** Now the point of being an Absolute Nudist is NOT about being a hardcore nudist or nude 24/7 but rather the appreciation, enjoyment and the ability to live nude a you choose. Being nude 24/7 in a snow storm will not earn you a merit badge but probably will earn you an idiot badge and a visit to the ER for frostbite. The phrase Intelligent Nudity is often used at nudist resorts to describe their nude policy. Beaches don't have such policies so people should be free to do as they choose without judgement... and by the way they are usually signed as clothing optional beaches for a reason. I live in nudist communities and have the ability to be nude 24/7 within the confines, and I am nude intelligently, as are all the other nudists who also live there. It is not about windows open or backyards or visits to a beach... we live there 24/7 because we desire to live nude as we choose. None of us feel like we have to prove to anybody that we are nudists, we know who and what we are. We feel we are closer to the main goal "true nudists" seek of living and being nude as we please and where we please. We don't feel the need to judge others on when or how much they choose to be nude. We certainly don't "hate" people who are not nude 24/7, rather we are supportive of their desire and appreciation of social nudity. If you feel you have to "hate" somebody for not being as nude as you are in your "home" or at a "clothing optional" beach, seems like more of a mark of insecurity in your nudity rather than being a Absolute Nudist. |
| Absolute Naturists Wake Up! Some people don't like nudists... |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 8, 2011 |
How aware are we in relation to the anti-nudity words and opinions being spoken? What do we do when we hear them? What should we do when we hear them? In a recent article the Florida Suwannee Democrat publication (http://suwanneedemocrat.com/jasper/x1402469184/UPDATE-Nudist-resort-in-the-works-near-White-Springs) about a new Nudist Resort, there was significant negative speak about it. Here is what one County Commissioner said: “I don't think it's appropriate for this community,” he said. “Even though it's in Columbia County on the Suwannee River, I believe it will adversely affect the Town of White Springs, the state park (Stephen Foster) and tourism.” “... a lot of people won't come to the park or to White Springs because of the presence of a nudist resort so close to the town.” “It degrades society, it degrades our morals that all our forefathers brought here to this country,..." As I titled my topic, Wake Up!.. Maybe we should keep this other side of opinion in our forefront of thinking. Let me restate the question: How aware are we in relation to the anti-nudity words and opinions being spoken? What do we do when we hear them? What should we do when we hear them? |
| Absolute Naturists Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 8, 2011 |
TommyGunn, If I may be a little silly... this issue is focused in the Castro District of SF so you may want to be concerned where the butts have been. LOL. Sorry folks, I couldn't resist. I was recently speaking with a person somewhat knowledgeable of the issue and he was saying that it was unfortunate that nudists would probably get lumped into this because these folks that it is aimed at are not nudists and don't give a hoot about nudist etiquette. He was also saying that the public nudity display was mainly in the gay areas and not really anywhere else in the city. He had his doubts if it would be so tolerated if it was prevelant in the tourist areas or upper crust areas of the city. Something to think about, hmmmm. |
| Absolute Naturists Road Blocks to Public Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 8, 2011 |
If you are an AANR member and receive the monthly publication - The Bulletin - this would be a perfect opportunity to share it with them. AANR always encourages readers to share it with others after they are done reading it instead of throwing it away or burying it with other publications. What you did Cent was a perfect way to introduce nude recreation to people, good for you. This is a little off topic but I think a good example how simple can eiminate misinformation that causes roadblocks. Anybody else had an opportunity like this? |
| Absolute Naturists Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 6, 2011 |
A blueprint is nothing more than a map of a known experience that provides a graphic for others to follow and build upon. San Francisco could be that to the people who would like to see public or social nudity and an end to the conversation to those who say it will never happen. Yes there will be stumbling blocks, changes, modifications, collaborations and learning experiences from which we can build a better model. That is good and we should all support any effort in that direction. I have never known change to come from complacency, no matter what it is. If we ever want to experience a time when public and social nudity will be accepted and legal as in SF, every nudist, no matter to what extent, will have to be willing to step up to the plate in whatever way they can to make it happen. To hide or continue be secretive only serves to say by the actions that social nudity is wrong and should be illegal... so either get on the bus or get off. Bill, I am glad you and I are on the same page. |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 6, 2011 |
Dang Smokey, you and I are definitely on the same thought path. I was just getting ready to have some dsicussion with the AANR people in Florida and the TNS folks to see what theya are thinking. If SF can make it work, it will be a good blueprint for others who are willing to try it. Once again it appears it is the Gay Community who has pushed the envelope and made a change. Some will view that ss good, some will view that as bad. Personally, I salute them for this. Anybody else have a thought? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 6, 2011 |
Thank you Smokey for a very good sumation. I do keep some crime scene tape around just in case. This discussion has been a very good example of how I envisioned when I said honest and challenging discussions are welcomed. I honestly believe that if we can have spirited discussions like this, all walk away, wipe and off the blood, and have a gained persective or insight into a particular subject that allows us to grow in our thinking then we are all better for it. We should be open to that because it means we are open to change and not stuck in life. Really in the end, as I have surmized from ALL the discussions on Absolute, we all want the same things... to live and let live, to respect and be respected, to have happiness in our lives and finally, to be free to choose how we want to dress or not dress without any repercussions. Of all that, respect and happiness are always on my front burners. Thank you all for your willingness to speak your minds and put forth your beliefs. That is what freedom is about. Also thank all of you for continuing to make Absolute one of the most successful and active groups on NCH. Now lets all go find that bar Smokey is talking about and have a toast to our contined success and friendship. Cheers! |
| Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 4, 2011 |
Gaijin...I think you totally missed the point of that example, But if it did happen I would not be so stupid as to just sit and say... well gee it is a free society, c'mon get real please. Bill, How would you know how a woman would be harmed or not... remember your a guy and you would smile and pose and hence ENCOURAGE that behavior. That doesn't do anybody any good and is very irresponsible and MOST Nudists I know would agree. Harm comes in many different forms, and I DO NOT HIDE so don't even go down that path. YES I WAS HARMED, don't even go down that path either and guess what, you can't sue anybody if they take it down, forget about any apology, but by then the damage is done and it is on a dozen other porn sites. Maybe you would like to be on a porn or gay website site... not sure, but good luck if you do. Special Note from SunBunny: I retract and apologize to BillBowser for applying what Armadillo said about posing for the cameras to him on this post. That comment should have been directed to Armadillo and is. |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 4, 2011 |
Let me give you a few of my thoughts: 1)I am at a clothing optional beach with my two grandchildren, they are enjoying running in and out of the water as little kids do and they are nude, a guy comes up and start taking pictures of them with a big close-up lens... is that ok because it is a "Free Society" and "Public Space"?; 2) Those of you who have no problem being photographed nude without your permission by strangers... One day you see your picture on the side of a bus in a major metropolitan area with the caption "He has AIDS but still enjoys the sunshine."... is that ok by you becaused it is a "Free Society" and your picture was taken in a "Public Space"?; I can keep givng more scenarios but let's be honest... it is Just Plain Wrong and a violation of a persons civil liberties to commit such an act. People who take these uninvited pictures are Pervs and Scum in my opinion. Also,if you really think you live in a "Free Society" you don't have a clue where you live or what living is all about. I have been the victim of having my picture stolen on the internet and used on porn sites and let me tell you, It Is NOT OK and It Is WRONG... obviously you have never had that happen to you. |
| Absolute Naturists Does the Enjoyment of Nudity Make You a Nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 2, 2011 |
Does the simple act of enjoying self nudity, be it private or social, make or define a person as a Nudist? Your thoughts please.... (Thanks to FireProf for the post on a different Topic that raised this question in my thinking.) |
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SunBunny Posted: Oct 1, 2011 |
First of all thanks and hugs to all of you who have expressed your appreciation to me on how I keep this group active. Seems like not a day go's by that I have new requests for membership to our quickly growing group and I truly appreciate yor desire to join in on the many conversations we have. I would like to once again invite all you new members to say a few words about yourselves and or your reasoning for joining AN and NCH. Don't be shy, please become a active member of Absolute Naturists. We look forward to hearing from you. Thanks! SB |
| Absolute Naturists How Do You View Clothing? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 28, 2011 |
Simple question.... How do you view clothing (not as in look at it)? For me, I view clothing as decorative or as body adornement, like a necklace would be. Color draping can enhance the beauty of the human body without taking away the naturalness of nudity, much like what I do with my sarongs (see my pictures). I don't see clothes as neccessary unless they are needed for protection from the elemnts of work or nature. What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 28, 2011 |
I don't think it would become commonplace, just more relaxed as it is currently in countries where nudity is more accepted. If anything it would give us the opportunity to separate social nudity from lewd behavior more clearly. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 27, 2011 |
As I eluded to previously and in step with Polo and Brian... I would gladly submit to sitting on a towel or covering up in accordance with a food establishments policy if the trade off is the ability to be nude anywhere in the City. Not sure I would move to SF but I think SF can be be a good experience benchmark for other communities to follow. Interesting that it is the gay community to once again lead the charge and challenge to societal norms. I appreciate them for doing this. |
| Absolute Naturists If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 27, 2011 |
If social and public nudity were legal, would it become commonplace? I read a on-going court case in Canada and the following excerpt led me to this question for you: "While decriminalizing mere nudity is an important principle, it is unlikely to lead to any significant changes in Canada. Fifteen years after Gwen Jacob won the right for women to be topfree in Ontario, it is still almost non-existant anywhere. Similarly, it is highly unlikely that nudity would become commonplace if it was decriminalized. The social pressure to conform is just too great for most people. What are your thoughts? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 27, 2011 |
Hey Lux, glad you finally got down to the nuts and bolts of her thinking. In the psyc world these are sometimes referred to as break-thrus. This may be the perfect time to share some of The Naturist Society or ANNR publications with her. Even the some of the "womens stories" might assist her in putting social nudity in the perspective that we nudists think of it. View it as an opportunity. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 27, 2011 |
Yep, I sadly can't bicker with that theory either, they have bought me lots of drinks in the past. It is shallow, no doubt, but it was fun then. But this is what aligns sex with nudity. "Tittie Bars" are all about sexual stimulation. Some of the recent pics posted on NCH displaying young sexy and perky females are continously "Most Popular"... and my point was! Is there a wonder why some of us older and gravity challenged women would even consider placing a pic on here? Seems like our egos are our worst enemies. Can we ever get beyound that? That question applies to both men and women. PS - Applause for you women who are confident with your life and bodies and are not afraid to display your bodies with love and human grace at any age here on NCH. I am proud to be in your company. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 27, 2011 |
Sept 30 through Oct 2 LARC is hosting the AANR-NW Fall Board Meeting. Besides all the meeting stuff there is Brekfast/lunch/dinner available and a great Classic Rock Dance Saturday Night. Go to LARC website for detail or call them up. I will be the DJ on Saturday night so come out and enjoy. Can you make it? |
| Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 24, 2011 |
Detach, your right almost... only two women have responded to this topic. AZlagoon and me, geeez, c'mon ladies. Maybe this does speak to the apathy or just plain disinterest in the subject by women. Could this be a negatve body image type thing, like if they aren't perky I am keping them covered? Is it still to aligned with womens rights and burn the bra protests of the 60's? Did Victoria Secrets do a number on our thought proces? If men were to wear bikini tops over their man boobs would the women get angry and think they were making mock of them? This is all kinda crazy. What's the real deal here? I would really like to hear from a few more ladies on this subject. Guys can you please ask the women in your lives and let us know how they feel about this? This is interesting, Thanks. |
| Absolute Naturists Challenges to Managing a Nudist Resort / Club |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 24, 2011 |
What do you think would be some of the challenges to operating/managing a nudist resort/club? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 23, 2011 |
Jaybird, I would quote you in front of a judge but somehow I don't think it will work. Why are we talking about this... because women DO NOT have the legal right to be top free in public, thats why. I hear what you are saying, and I am more than supportive of the right, BUT we are not there and until we are we need to keep this type of inequality in the forefront of our thinking to overcome it. Men's voices are as good as womens voices. Tell me, when was the last time you got out publicly and protested this inequity? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 21, 2011 |
Not sure about that Kilted... I was kind thinking about walking by the frozen food section and getting a bit of a nipply reaction, brrrrrrr. lol, thanks for the post Any other thoughts about this out there? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 21, 2011 |
Almost every day we are getting new Absolute Naturists members to join us in the many discussions we have so..... New Members, please tell us a little something about yourselves and let's chat. I think you will find many great people with great experiences here on AN. For those of you who have already introduced yourselves, thank you and I hope you are enjoying the diverse topics and discussions that we have going on here. BTW, Everybody, do you realize that we have 573 Absolute Naturists members, the second highest membership level on all of Nudist Clubhouse -AND- the highest number of topics (156) and posts (2,590) on all of NCH. Good Job Everybody! SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 21, 2011 |
AZ, Soul searching and questioning our actions is always a good thing in my opinion. It means we are still thinking and alive. We all have biases, how and why we form them, who knows. When we do run up against on them, it seems like the perfect time to evaluate it and put it in it's proper place in our mindset. I do that all the time. I don't want to veer off the topic but maybe this could be an excellent topic for us nudists/naturist to consider. Thanks for your honest input. Anyone else????? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 20, 2011 |
I ran across a poll about this in a New Jersey publication. I voted on it, YES of course, you may want to vote as well. Here is the website (it is ok, I checked it): http://www.nj.com/hudson/voices/index.ssf/2011/09/daily_poll_should_women_be_per.html |
| Absolute Naturists Improving Your Life... Any Suggestions? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 19, 2011 |
Can you please share with all our readers one thing you have done that has improved your life in a very positive manner? Let's face it, we can all use an outside voice in this department to maybe get us on a better or different path towards improving our lives. This does not have to be in relationship to nudism, for in the end we all all just people wanting to live a good life. Your experienced suggestions please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 18, 2011 |
Alex, Andy is correct. Sounds like this guy is into sex and not social nudity. Unfortunately you will encounter that on nudist sites on the internet and on many chat groups. Glad we could help. There are lots of people with good experience in the social nudist arena on this group so never worry about asking a question like this, we will probably have all the answers you need. take care, SB |
| Absolute Naturists 2012 NCH Bare-2-Breakers Contigent |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2011 |
Would you be interested in joining fellow NCH members on forming a NCH Contingent for the 2012 Bare-2-Breakers walk/run event in San Francisoc on May 20, 2012? --> I will be there, so I am in! Maybe we could even put together be a weekend NCH Meet up somewhere in the Bay Area if there is enough interest and we can talk Brian (NCH Owner into it. Your thoughts/interest please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2011 |
It is actually a run or walk sort of thing... I am walking myself. Totally understand what you are saying, they always need helping hands and supporters are appreciated for sure... thanks Smokey. That's 3 persons for our NCH Contigent, maybe I sure start a new topic. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2011 |
May 20, 2012 is the next B-2-B Event in San Francisco, CA. I am planning on being there and participting. It will be fun. Would any of you be interested in getting together an contingent from NCH to go. If so maybe we can talk Brian into starting something up. Go to their website for details. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2011 |
WTF!! .... I like that, it's how I have always thought about this type of inequity. I kind of figured most of you would be supportive but have any of you strongly encouraged and supported the women in your lives to go topless, even around your own house or yard. Maybe it is this type of encouragement that would help them get over the body issues or years of negative teachings. |
| Absolute Naturists Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 15, 2011 |
I think this SF legislation all stems from a place many of us are not really in tune to... the Castro district of SF. The people who are nude are for the most part not nudists, just gay guys wanting to be naked. They would probably never venture into a nudist venue, it is not their thing. This is another case where "real" (you know what I mean so c'mom) nudists get a slap in public because of the naked peoples actions. I don't know of any nudists who would have a problem carrying or sitting on a towel. It is what we do. As far as the resturant, I have no problem with a genital/butt covering wrap of some sort. My husband has a "man wrap" which he can quickly wrap around himself when appropriate. Let's be honest, I have seen some guys who the close and upfront table high sight of their genitals, for whatever reasons, would make me loose my appetite. This is especially the case if they happen to bend over or stand in the aisle way just inches from to me. Actually I have seen some women who when bent over could also fall in this same category. For the opportunity to be essentially nude all the time, I don't think it is such a big price to pay. But then again this legislation is more about being the naked person in the Castro District of SF, not a social nudist who understands nude etiquette. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 14, 2011 |
What are your thoughts on requiring or mandateing some sort of butt covers for sitting on when nude in a public place or covering of genitals in public eating areas? San Francisco, known for tolerance and where public nudity is not illegal, has introduced legislation that would require nude persons to carry towels or other covers to sit on when in public places and to cover their genitals when entering resturants. What do you think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 13, 2011 |
Isn't it More Important to have the legal and social ability and the CHOICE to go topfree for women.... What we choose to do or is up to the individual, like being nude. If it was legal, you could have the choice to be nude or not. Topfree may well be a step in that direction, at least here in the US. |
| Absolute Naturists Where do I start. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 13, 2011 |
You can start by completing you profile so we know a little more about you AND writing a post in the Introduce Yourself topic. That is what it is for. There are people in this group with good knowledge and are always willing to lend a thought. SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 13, 2011 |
alexx... So you think a nude woman would be less sexually stimulating then a bare breast? This my friend is exactly what I hope this group will help you overcome from your country's conservative teachings and sexual suppressions: social nudity is not open sexuality. I believe you ae on the right track so far. You are a courageous person and I appreciate all you have to say. Thanks for being part of our group and offering your honest viewpoints. It is good for all of us to read this. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 13, 2011 |
AZLagoon, thanks for the post, I was hoping you would chime in on this topic. What AZ said... "I've always felt that public beaches and big resorts are a bit too intimidating for a first-timer...especially the ladies. We try to set an environment for new nudists to move at their pace and take the burden off of the spouse/significant other to lead them to the water, so to speak." ... has always been my exact thinking as a perfect way to introduce a reluctant spouse or partner to social nudity. I have been to a number of resorts and yes the people for the most part are friendly and accepting, but it is still intimidating to the first-timer, especially ladies. I have never been to AZLagoon but it sounds and looks like what I hope all CO/Nudist B&B's should be like. Maybe some day we will have a chance to stay there on our way to or from Texas. I wish there were more CO/Nudist B&B's across the country. Again, thanks AZLagoon. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 12, 2011 |
I think Detach is on to something, but why are women reluctant. Maybe the body image issue has alot to do with that. Like if they aren't "perky" I don't want to expose them. Another thought is that the female breast is still viwed as erotic by many men, hence the staring or leering which is NOT a good feeling on the recieving end. Guys stare at my boobs all the time when I am dressed. I can only imagine that they would go ape shit if I took my top off, probably even want to take pictures. Maybe exposing them might eventually get us back to normal thinking on female breasts. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 12, 2011 |
Have you ever been to a Nudist or CO Bed & Breakfast? What are your experiences? Do you think they are a good alternative to a resort/club for someone who is thinking about trying nudism? Your thoughts on all or any question is appreciated. |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 12, 2011 |
Do you think females should have the legal right to be topless(bare breasted)anywhere and anytime they choose(as males currently do)? What arguements (pro/con) could you provide for your view? I know I may be speaking to the choir but discussion is always good. Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Normal |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 8, 2011 |
What do you think about living "Nude Normal"? I was intrigued by what Billyjoejimbob said in a post on another topic speaking about people in other countries... "they don't really understand why somebody would want to be nude all the time. They also like their fashion and having nice things. So, I think overall it is just a different mindset. There is no need to be a "nudist" because doing things in the nude that make more sense in the nude are just normal to them". Your thoughts? (Thanks for the topic idea Billyjoejimbob.) |
| Absolute Naturists Nudity in Foreign Countries |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 7, 2011 |
How is social nudity, family nudity, recreational nudity, nude living either viewed, dealt with or accepted in other countries outside the US? I was intrigued by a recent post that related to this in another Topic. I think it would be interesting to hear first hand from persons who have had experiences with social nudity in other parts of the world, like Italy, Croatia, France, etc.. Please share. |
| Absolute Naturists Family Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 7, 2011 |
I hear the same things many times from "nudists" when children are around. I think FireProf is absolutely correct with the thought that they still associate social or recreational nudity with sex and therefore it is illegal or wrong when children are around in their mindset. Consequently, they probably relate this to others they meet, how sad. This is where I draw a line between nudists and people who like to be naked, and I am not judging, but I do think there is a BIG difference. |
| Absolute Naturists Winter Nude Plans |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 7, 2011 |
As usual, we will be heading for Natures Resort in South Texas (Rio Grande Valley). Yes we are Winter Texans. We will spend 6 months or so playing water volleyball, going on bike rides, eating tamales and good BBQ, and enjoying the warm weather with our friends there. That's it! Come down and visit Natures Resort this winter if you can. |
| Absolute Naturists Introduce Yourself |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 6, 2011 |
I was thinking it was a good idea and probably long overdue for all the new members, and even some not so new but unknown to most, to give a brief intro about themselves and let us all get to know you little better. Seems like almost everyday I get requests from persons to join Absolute Naturists and I am sure there are some interesting people with enlightening experiences on here. Please share however you like, thank you. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Winter Nude Plans |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 6, 2011 |
What are your nudist plans or thoughts for the rapidly approaching WINTER (Brrrrr)? |
| Absolute Naturists Family Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 1, 2011 |
What are your thoughts when you see a family enjoying social nudity or nude recreation? I belong to another NCH group, Family Nudists, not because I currently have a family with little ones in tow, but because I am very supportive of families enjoying social nudity. As I peruse the topics on that group, if I can ever lend a thought or experience, I do. For me, everytime I see a family enjoying nude recreation it brings a smile to my face. It puts life in a very natural perspective. We nudists get so use to being around only adults, or worse yet demanding that resorts not allow children because "we old folks" don't want to be bothered with children, that we tend to get removed from the normalality of nudity and view it as only an adult activity. I remember once I went to a resort in Southern California and really got a chuckle. In the pool, where most people were at, there were kids squealing and shooting squirt guns at each other, the parents huddled in groups chatting with each other, and some older couples doing water exercises... all in the same pool. It was great. Not sure what they thought of it but I enjoyed the experinecing the balance of it all. I really encourage all of you to involve your familys in social nudity and encourage friends and neighbors with familys to do the same. Don't discourage it at your clubs or resorts. It brings a more naturalness to nudity. Please share your thoughts or experiences. |
| Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Sep 1, 2011 |
What can we do, as nudists, to stop the taking of univited photos of us at resorts, beaches or other places we may enjoy being nude? As we all know, this continues to be a problem and many times these photos end up on the internet. It is not always just the hot babes either. It is our children, our mothers, our sisters who are just enjoying themselves naturally. I have even heard of men being photographed and their picture ending up on gay websites. Besides being an extreme invasion of our privacy, it can obviously cause endless harm to our personal lives. It is even a deterent to people who would like to try social nudity. Your thoughts, experiences or actions please. |
| Absolute Naturists Spreading the Nude View |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 30, 2011 |
Social Nudity is very misunderstood by the masses. However there seems to be a growing curiosity and willingness by non-nudist's to try it. On another topic, "Talking Nude Quietly", I noted a real willingness by many of you to take a leadership role in getting the word out, even through quiet means. Using that as a stepping stone, what ideas or actions do you think we can do to take it a bit further and continue to educate and introduce the curious to the Nude View? Creativity is always welcomed. |
| Absolute Naturists How To: Talk Nude Quietly |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 30, 2011 |
Good Job! Maybe more of us can do something like this. Basically a broadcasted invitation to join you at a AANR affiliated nudist club. Facebook could work easily for this also. Let us know how it works for you. |
| Texas Nudists and Resorts Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 30, 2011 |
Great! Let us know what they have to say. It is always good to hear it from a law enforcement standpoint. I agree with you, there is still murkiness within the laws. Maybe we can get a coalition of Texas folks to team up with the TNS Action team to try to clean up the murkiness. What say y'all? |
| Absolute Naturists The BEST thing about being a Nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 28, 2011 |
Never having to do much laundry for sure! I hate doing laundry so that is the best for me. oh, one more... and probably much bigger in the whole scheme of things. Meeting other nudists for the first time, everbody totally nude, there just is always an instant kinship and friendship without any pretentiousness based on clothing. There just are no false barriers. It is so nice to be real. |
| Absolute Naturists The BEST thing about being a Nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 27, 2011 |
What do you think the Best Thing is about being a Nudist? Give some practical examples if you can from your standpoint? |
| Absolute Naturists Talk about your Nude Summer |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 26, 2011 |
Tell us about what you did this summer in regards to nudity. Did you visit clubs? Go to a nude beach? Meet new nudist freinds? Take a nude vacation? Get a great all over tan? What- what -what did you do? Summer is coming to a close and it is alwasy gooe to recap on the nude fun we had and how your lives would maybe enrichened by nudity. Please share.... |
| Absolute Naturists Bodypainting |
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SunBunny Posted: Aug 8, 2011 |
I am totally fine with body painting. While it may be a bit on the side of exhibitionism, so what... have some fun and live life. I would like to do Fantasy Fest sometime. Maybe Deb can share some insights to Fantasy Fest. BTW, still out cruising on the British Candian waters and enjoying myself. Just have internet for a day or so, it is pretty remote but lots of sunshine and plenty of nude time on the water. Thanks to FireProf for minding the Fort for me while I am out. Be back soon folks... until then keep on posting! |
| Absolute Naturists can nudity sell clothes? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 11, 2011 |
In this context, yes. Sex sells. I think the articles very first line says it all: "If sex sells, then nudity cannot be far behind". Once again the reinforcement and understanding by the clothed world that nudity and sex are the same. I find it offensive and demeaning as a nudist. I think it would have been far better (and just as alluring) for the ad company to go to nude resorts and get nudist to say things like "I shop for all my clothes at Zappos" or "I love to dress up with Zappos". Thanks for posting this, I think I will write to AANR about it. |
| Absolute Naturists Social nudity and gender equality |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 11, 2011 |
Gy, please correct me if I am wrong but I believe the question (topic) within your statement for group members to respond to is: Is there a difference in your communication patterns with the opposite sex when they are nude verses when they are clothed? This question is for both men and women to answer. |
| Absolute Naturists National NUDE Donut Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 11, 2011 |
No worries, we will do it again... and probably before the next real National Donut Day. I like nude donuts, what can I say. Anybody have any date suggestions for the declaration of the next Nude Donut Day? |
| Absolute Naturists Naturism as a Philosphy - Nudism is Not |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 11, 2011 |
To me, being a nudist is the desire, willingness, and appreciation of just being nude. A naturist, while the nude part applys equally, involves a greater appreciation of being nude in harmony with nature. It is a deeper caring for the environments within which we live and with a desire to preserve. I think this is where it becomes more of a philosphy of living than being a nudist and going to a resort/club or your backyard. |
| Absolute Naturists Are you an Absolute Naturist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 9, 2011 |
I just brought the Nude Cruise topic to the surface again. It is a good and informative topic but unfortunately got buried. Can we talk about nude cruises there and get this one back on topic please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 9, 2011 |
We have not been on a nude cruise yet, although we are planning on going on the BIG SHIP cruise in 2013 just to experience it with that many people. The main reason we have been reluctant is that you have to be dressed so much. Dinners, in port, off ship, breakfast, etc.. Seem like nudity is an accomodation rather than an norm. Also there is no mandate to nude so it seems like it is the perfect opportunity for pictures to be taken by non-nudists and gawking. NOTE: I thought it might be a good idea to bring this back up to the top again since there has been conversation on nude cruises. Maybe we can share experiences on any cruises you have been on, nude or not, to get a sense of what it is like. SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 8, 2011 |
As soon as the NCH approves my recent pictures, you can see what it is like here in Parks Bay, WA. This is the perfect way to enjoy Nude Week. Floating on the boat enjoying the sunshine with friends... totally nude in the fresh air. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 8, 2011 |
For me it was fun but probably more silly... we had a BBQ Contest at LARC and I was eating some ribs drenched with delicious bbq sauce. I was really enjoying them, so much so that when I looked down and had bbq sauce all over my boobs (I was nude of course). Needless to say, I had more than enough willing helpers to clean me up...it was funny. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 8, 2011 |
So far this summer, what has been your most fun moment while you have been nude? |
| Absolute Naturists Naturism as a Philosphy - Nudism is Not |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 8, 2011 |
I just read an article that talked about being a Naturist was a philosphy and being a nudist was just an action. What do you think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 8, 2011 |
The NorthWest Naturist Boating Club is on a club cruise in Parks Bay, WA. This a a quiet bay located in the San Juan Islands of the Pacific Northwest that is perfect for nude enjoyment. It hase been a beautiful and fun time. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 8, 2011 |
I have posted a picture of me and the burgee. Check it out. We are on the hook here at Parks Bay on Shaw Island, WA. It is located in the San Juan Islands and a perfect place to be nude on the boat. There are additional pics of this too. Fireprof: We are in the process of aquiring it, let you know when it becomes available. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 5, 2011 |
Hey Capt, it is the only way to really feel where the wind is...enjoy yourself. I love sailing. We will be getting off the dock early and heading out to a nice bay here in the San Juan Islands and meeting up with some friends from our nudist boating club. A 4-day boat cruise, very nude, very natural. As soon as we are off the dock, the clothes come off too. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 5, 2011 |
Did y'all hear that Natures Resort finally completed the new expansion. I have heard that they are filling up pretty fast. You can see them on their website. BTW, people are coming over from Sandpipers. I still think NR is the better of the two in the Rio Grande Valley. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Recreation Week - Celebration Plans |
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SunBunny Posted: Jul 5, 2011 |
Kicked it off on the 3rd with a nude Fireworks show at LARC; Saw another Big Fireworks show over Bellingham Bay on the 4th while Nude on the Boat; Nude Cruising on the boat from the 6th to the 10th all around the San Juan Islands; yep that's about it. Most clubs/resorts have activities and open houses at this time so it is the perfect opportunity for you guys to take your "not so sure about this" wife's to one of the activities. |
| Absolute Naturists Are Nudists/Naturists Cool People? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 29, 2011 |
dkk.. see the topic "I like to use the term "naked" over nude..". Good stuff. Maybe you can add a thought to it (others too). SB BTW, Let try to keep this thread on topic please. It is a good one and I hate to see it innocently HiJacked. Thanks. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 29, 2011 |
"Sometimes it is better to ignore the stupidity of pettiness than to respond to the pettiness of stupidity." SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 29, 2011 |
LARC has lots of things going on this coming weekend. BBQ Contest with some good eating afterwards, games, karaoke, fireworks...and freindly people at a beautiful park. I have to say that the park is looking better than ever beore. I will be there and I can introduce you to new friends. Everyone is invited and a free day pass on your first visit, just ask at the office. Leave a note here if I might see you. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 29, 2011 |
In all my experiences, I would say that Nudists are no different on the Cool Scale as the Textiles... they just prefer to be nude and some prefer to be naked (yes there is a difference). I think sometimes people are lulled into thinking all nudist are cool because you usually encounter them in only recreational settings where people are laughing, having fun and being social. Take them out of that environment and they turn back into their trueselves... some nice, some social, some friendly, some funny, some showboats, some arrogant, some judgemental, some racist, some just complete buttheads. If you watch close, you will see those traits pop out every now and then at the clubs/resorts (as some of you have). The one caveat to this are the Naturists. For the most part they are the tree hugging, moss kissing, greenies of the nude living world and I mean this in a good way. They respect and are passionate about the connection between life and earth. I have always found them more open and accepting of lifes variables. You usually will not find them at a nudist resort. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 28, 2011 |
Are nudists/naturist cool people? Everyone seems to think that the people at nude resorts are totally cool and open minded people just about everything. What do you think? (thanks Detach, your rant is the basis of this topic) |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 28, 2011 |
How do you plan to celebrate Nude Recreation Week, July 4-10, 2011? Inviting friends to join you? It may be the perfect opportunity to introduce someone to social nudism... go for it! |
| Absolute Naturists What is a non-nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 28, 2011 |
Gaijin, me militant....hmmm, maybe you just don't understand passion or want things to stay the way they are. I am a full supporter of nude recreation. Anybody that has read my topics and comments should get that. I am also a full supporter of peoples rights to live nude as long as they cause no physical harm to others. The mantra of the group is: "For People that understand, support, and desire to live nude as nature intended." To be real honest, we have a number of people in this group that are in the bleachers with no idea what game they are at. Maybe these are the "non-nudists" you speak of. What I try to do at least get everybody to think about nude living as a possibility. Why else are you here? I always welcome others to chime in on the process with their thoughts and experiences. Some thoughts, opinions, delivery styles, and positions are challenging to some because it calls for a radical (not militant) change in mindset,instilled values and moral beliefs. These are usually the ones that are the quickest to call such discussion militant or radical rather than just another opinion upon which to consider and respond should they so desire. It is easier to do. It does nothing for intellectual conversation or movement. There is another part of the group descripton: "Honest and courageous discussions on social nudity welcomed." As such Gaijin, I accept your words as opinion, to which I have chosen to repond without calling names or labeling. Thanks for your post. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 27, 2011 |
A simple yes or no is all I am asking. No excuses or rationals, no harm no foul. Just yes or no. Read the mantra and respond, thanks. Me: Yes, Absolutely! |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 27, 2011 |
Until the day that you can "casually" go anywhere nude or clothed, a casual activist mindset is hogwash. It is to forgiving and open to compromise. I have heard, and continue to hear, tons of excuses and reasons why absolute nudism can't work from AN members. If that is what you believe, then it won't because you are not willing to try. Social nudity and nude living are not understood by the persons who need clothes and the laws that uphold their beliefs. The only way I know to change this is by constant education and demonstration, not compromise or casualness. Is getting arrested ok with you, no. Is getting cited and fined ok with you, no. Is loosing your job ok with you, no. Is having "friends" judge you ok, no. We need to either get on the bus or get off the bus, it is that simple. There is no such thing as kinda on the bus. Whether you want to accept it or not, the majority of the world is not nudist friendly or even tolerant. That is what I am trying to change and it is pretty tough when you have folks who say they are an absolute naturist saying you are wrong. Activism is about creating change. Living nude is not currently accepted and that is what we should be trying to change. Convince me that I am wrong. |
| Absolute Naturists When Did Nudist Clubs Die? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 19, 2011 |
Viewing the wonderful historical pictures in the ASA Days Group here on NCH provided me with the epiphany for this topic. There is one consistent theme throughout all the pictures, people are nude. Here is my epiphany (please bear with me): In the days of ASA, there were groups of people who enjoyed simple nudity in social settings. They played simple outdoor games, had potlucks and BBQ's, enjoyed swimming and sunbathing, and preferred the good company of other nudists. They did not have debates or rules about tattoos and piercings, they did not have discussions about shaving their pubic hair, they did not distinguish between the acceptability of children at club functions and the need to have adult only environments, they did not constantly complain about driving distances or membership fees, they did not include sex or swinging in their desire to enjoy their social nudity, they did not expect to be entertained nor was there an expectancy of upscale services, they did not wear erotic clothing nor have discussions about underwear verses outerwear, they did not feel a need to be exhibitionists on dance floors, they laughed and enjoyed each others company and appreciated the freedom and escape from their textile mandated lives, and best of all, they did not wear clothes at nudist clubs because they went to their nudist clubs to be nude. They joined nudist clubs, not resorts, for the sake of enjoying healthy nudity without mitigation and that was the direct value these clubs brought and provided for them. It was a simple time. It was a utopian nudist environment. For whatever reasons, these clubs started to allow membership of persons who desired this utopian environment, claiming to be nudists, but that did not understand, appreciate or completely accept the simple concept and principles of social nudity. This is when these club's unwitted demise began to occur. The paradigm shift of the nudist mindset from having to wear clothes to wanting to wear clothes occurred and thrived. This is when, in my opinion, nudist clubs died. Here is my reasoning. As the textile norms gained greater momentum at nudist clubs, the simple outdoor games fell by the wayside, the potlucks and BBQ's were replaced by restaurant type dining with bars, swimming and sunbathing gravitated to hot tubs and coconut oil tanning, and the preference for good company moved to exclusionary circles of cliques, heated debates and bias rules about tattoos and body or genital piercings commenced, shaving pubic hair became a focus and style, intolerance and strict guidelines were established for acceptance and inclusion of children, adult only environments became more of a norm, persons began to seek locations and venues that were more amenable to their acceptable driving distances and costs for entry or membership fees, clubs began allowing or turning an eye from sex or swinging from groups openly seeking such entertainment in their desire to enjoy their social nudity, an expectation of club entertainment became the norm with calendars of events determining attendance, the demand for more upscale services with resort like atmospheres was quickly replacing the simplicity of nudist clubs, wearing erotic clothing became a norm and many times a competition, discussions about the appropriateness of underwear as outerwear ensued, dance floors became hotbeds for sexually charged exhibition, public drunkenness, voyeurism and hidden cameras replaced the laughter and enjoyment each others company, the separation, freedom and escape from textile living became minimal, and worst of all, nudists began wearing clothes at nudist clubs with the expectation and demand for allowance regardless of the premise of nudist clubs being place to be nude. Grass root oriented nudist clubs were now being forced to compete with corporate based clothing optional resorts. The enjoyment of simple unmitigated healthy nudity and social interaction was no longer the primary focus of value for viability for continued existence. What we are witnessing today in decreased membership and club closings is the direct result of what we have done to ourselves as nudists and we have no one to blame but ourselves. Can it be changed or reversed, perhaps, but only with consistent reorientation, acceptance, and enforcement of complete nudity at nudist venues. Will that occur, I doubt it. However I am willing to give it a try. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 17, 2011 |
When did nudist clubs begin their demise? Why has membership waned? What was the cause? Can clubs be reversed to recapture the former wholesomeness of nudity as portayed by the ASA Days group posts? Your thoughts please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 15, 2011 |
If revealing sexy swimwear (itsy bitsy bikinis, thongs and speedos) are consider outerwear and allowed to be worn almost anywear without prejudice, why is underwear that reveals the same or less and probably not nearly as sexy not acceptable and considered as outerwear? Why do nudists have a problem with underware and not swimwear? (not talking about in the pool and soap suds) Your thoughts please? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 15, 2011 |
Chris, for the record, you were never "kicked off" the AN group and therefor you never had to be let back in. Weather you decide to stay or leave is up to you. You asked for advice and you got it. Nothing more to say. SB To fbh1, one of our newest AN group members: you have probably given the best advice and comments of any of us on this subject. I look forward to hearing much more from you in the future. Thankyou. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 15, 2011 |
Yes, that would be my recommendation... SingleNudist.com. You have to do a little sifting to see what works for you but there are more eligble women on there than men so go for it if you are sincere. The best thing of it is they are nudists so you don't have to do the convincing junk. My husband and I met on SingleNudist, since we were both nudists and had been previously married to non-nudists, and it has been great. I really appreciate Brian for starting that one. Good luck. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 14, 2011 |
The original topic question was: "When women post sexy teasing profiles with pictures that depict sexuality and not pure nuditity on sites like this, why are we so quick to bash the fellas for sexually driven responses?". It was not about how the NCH site is managed or operated. I think the knee jerk negative response to men who make sexually suggestive comments or continually post crouch shots may be a result of this. The topic is intended to give another perspective or rational to these actions and I asked for others thoughts and opinions. Again this is not about NCH policy or management. Can we get back on topic please. I am hoping the information you provide will be very valuable to everyone. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 14, 2011 |
I appreciate your opinion and yes opinions are welcomed on Absolute Naturists. There is nothing wrong with challenging an opinion and I do not think that equates to turning on someone or "kicking their ass". I simply asked tht he maybe consider changing his tone, said how the words were probably going to be received from my own experiences at clubs and I got blasted for it with no constructive thought. I am all for changing how things are at clubs in regards to age and activities. They need desparately to be changed, even at 58 years of age I get tired of it. I would really like to see this change as much as anyone else, but words and tone are important. That was my point. We have had very many spirited conversations like this and that is what makes this group interesting and thought provoking. It is not about siding, it is about discussing your point of view, correcting a misinterpreted discussion, or adding a new perspective to a discussion, or learning and moving on, and that is respected always. That was my point and still is my point. FireProf can speak to his side if he so chooses. Thanks for your thoughts. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 14, 2011 |
Appreciate your reponse Brian and please understand my intentions were not to discredit NCH but rather to bring to focus a potential issue in the internet nudist community. I believe we are on the same page on most of what you said. My point is that these women hurt the female population of nudists... everywhere. I appreciate the women on NCH that enjoy positive social nudism and I wish there were more of them on here. But why are so many reluctant to be here, that is the point I was making and it is an issue that is discussed in this group many times. It is not about kicking anybody out for things they do at some resorts and clubs. Keepng women on this site who have not been logged in a very long time (2008 & 2009) with suggestive photos and blank profiles does not really help the cause. They are not nudists and you are not going to educate them. Maybe we should ask the few women on NCH what they think about it. I just said what I think about it. If I am wrong I will be the first to admit it and apologize for the assertion. I don't think I am and this is what hurts the nudist community. You have a tough job, I understand that, in fact in this group we all do. It would be nice to find some way to stem the influx of pervs and nudist fakers which really hurts the entire nudist community. Eliminating these female perv baits who's motivations are not all that altrusictic would be a good start. I really doubt you will find them at a nudist club/resort... probably more likely on Craigslist. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 14, 2011 |
When women post sexy teasing profiles with pictures that depict sexuality and not pure nuditity on sites like this, why are we so quick to bash the fellas for sexually driven responses? Look at: Beautiful, Modelchic, sexie_jamie, dietric, Lucy, leatherbinhell, Olga, fancynancy, Nela.voj,juliewilson, chernoibialo, rodrigomaciel, rachels15, toomuch, prager x2anthia... and others like it. I think it is curious that many of these have not been on in a very long time and never joined any groups. Yet the profiles continue and are even listed in the people to meet search. This is plain and simple perv bait and proves still that sex sells. Need we ask why women don't come to resorts or join group like this. Image and first impressions are very important. This is what brings the pervs into quality nudist sites like NCH and reduce their value. Your thoughts please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 14, 2011 |
ah, you did... thanks for the less than mature reponse. It is really what I expected from you anyway although I was hoping for a little more openness. You truly sound like the spoiled brats that want everything yet want to give nothing. Cypress and others like it would not even exist if it weren't for your previous generations, the ones you have consistently bagged on. Enjoy them and good luck in the future. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 14, 2011 |
Chris, I have to say when you keep using terms like retirement homes, elderly, geezer rock so forth and so forth... you are not helping your quest. The "elderly" will put a foot in you butt, it will be well deserved and nothing will be changed at the clubs/resorts. I think many of us have been kind to you, we have provided some positive avenues for you to pursue, are supportive and understand your points and your quest eventhough we may be "elderly" in your view so I for one would appreciate a little more courtesy in the future on the words you choose. It is plain disrespectful in my opinion. It is not hard for me to visualize the negative response you may get from the "nudist retirement home residents" when you so freely lead with that type of wording even on here. You will always get further with honey than you will with vinegar. I hope you understand and appreciate this small piece of advice. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 13, 2011 |
What you have said Andy is true and correct. Kudos to both you and Bee. If this site was ONLY composed of real nudists who "get it" (thanks FireProf) then that would be more likely to work or happen. There are many fakers and horny desparate men on here. In addition there are some men who will not even tell the spouses that they are on NCH, or who put up a fake picture of a woman and pretend to act like a couple. FF, you know what I am talking about. But what the hey... when the Crouch Shots still exist, the show me more pictues still exist, the give me yor email me and lets chat comments still exist and the "Your Hot" comments still exist, why should a different result be expected. There are two topics on Absolute Naturist that even better demonstrate my point. They are Nude in Public = 97 posts/8,228 (and still growing) views -and- Nudist Women =55 posts/6,634 views. I wrote these titles purposefully to see what reaction I would get and guess what, exactly what I figured would happen. The pervs came out of the woodwork. There are many more quality topics and even directly related to positive nudity in this group but without the female based sexually oriented titles those topics get essentially zip. So lets get real about it. Do you think the ratio even has a chance of correction with this garbage going on continually. True there are some of us women who believe and support the cause enough and are strong enough to stand up to the stupidity that prevails but we are few and I think some of us many times really even question why we continue to do it. But that is the reality we women have to deal with. It happens at clubs/resorts AND it happens especially on the internet AND it happens for sure on this site, NCH. Just being real. Truly, while I know you have good intentions Andy, maybe we should do all we can to "Help Correct the Perv/Faker/Boys Locker Room Mentality Problem" on this site first and at least. That is how you can start correcting the M/F ratio. My apoligies and appreciation to those men on here, few that you, that respect women and respect the cause of positive nudism for all. It is not to hard to figure out who you are by the way you post responses. You are the ones that give us women the reason and courage to stay. I don't know what else I can say. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 9, 2011 |
It's all good, thanks for the lively discussion. That is what this group is all about. SB |
| Absolute Naturists What is an Absolute Naturist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 9, 2011 |
In your mind, what is an Absolute Naturist? Does being an Absolute Naturist have an activist mindset about it? Do Absolute Naturists really desire to live nude full time? Do Absolute Naturists really desire to change society to an acceptance of nude living? This group is about people who desire to live nude all the time and create communities or areas that would support their desire. Yet I hear the opposite many times from members. If you continually give reasons as to why you can't be nude, continually provide reasons for wanting to include non-nudists in the nudist community, desire to have nude places to go where you can wear clothes, won't lift a finger to promote positive nudity, Why do you consider yourself an Absolute Nudist and why are you here? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 9, 2011 |
Chris, what I tried to communcate earlier was that you should take it upon yourself to get a bunch of your friends together and visit a club of your choosing. Bring your music, games, beverages, whatever and make the place your kind of place. Take your thoughts, ideas and desires to the club owners and let them know what you would like to see and how you can partner with them to make it more ameanable to youth. It will be a win-win. The geezers will undoubtably give you a hard time and talk smack but screw them, go enjoy yourselves. This is how things are changed. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 9, 2011 |
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't always make them drink. BJJB, I have to agree with FP, you just don't get it. To continue to try to explain is just not worth it, you are not ready to drink. FP, I agree that this post has gotten somewhat off track but I do not think restating it will help. All anybody has to do is re-read the initial post at the top, it was very clear. If you want to post your thoughts, please re-read the topic and think about it first. Seems to me that this topic has brought to the surface the real issue as to why it has gotten off track. The same can be applied for many other topics in this group. It is simply because we have the majority of people, not all, claiming to be nudists when they are really not. They don't get the concepy of nude living. They are afraid to leave their homes, they are afraid to tell family and friends that they are nudist, essentially they are afraid to be nudists. The entire premise of this group is about being activists in bringing nudity to the forfront as a positive way of living. If you are going to be an activist, you can not be afraid of taking actions or the consequences of those actions. The majority of people in this group, may well be hurting nudists by expounding on nudism when they don't even get it or live it. They are basking in the light of being a nudist when they are not. This hurts nudism. If you are going to be a nudist, be a nudist... it is that simple. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
BJ, let's talk about the Big Picture. You are a strong person in your convictions and I respect that. I am as well. It is the examples we set that make our strengths and convictions of value to others, not us. We are mere drops of water in a very large pond, but our ripples spread in many directions. We are viewed as role models to many like it or not and that is a responsibility. When a person looks to us on the acceptance of social nudity, the values or benefits we place in belonging to or going to nudist clubs/resorts, our acceptance of people for who they are and not what their bodies look like... we many times determine their mindsets and future. Again, we are the examples. How we act at a nudist club is an example many will follow. How a nudist club acts will set the examlpe also, they are a role model that will be followed just as we are. If we minimize that we also have minimized our own convictions and beliefs in social nudity. Clubs have minimized their purpose in being a nudist club. That my friend is the Big Picture and the real picture, like it or not. I totally understand that and accept that. I don't cry, I set the example. It is what gives value to everything I do. Why else would I give my time on things like this group. It is my hope that I may in some way have an impact in another persons life or way of thinking. That is true value and essentially priceless. Thta is what I am about. It is not about my ego, someone telling me what to do or not do, requirements, hardcore or not hardcore, or getting my feelings hurt. As I said, I am a strong person and I can deal with all that. I am quite sure you can too. It is all about the Big Picture involved in opening the positive aspects of nude living and nude recreation, overcoming body acceptance issues, allowing our trueselves to be revealed, to not fear others rejection and to live our lives honestly, openly and happily. Are you with me on this, I hope you are. Anybody else have a thought on the Big Picture? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
abkmlk, thank you for your honest,personal and courageous post. I appreciate it. Some thoughts... I think it is always sad that people, even in the aged lives, allow others to run their lives and care more about others opinions and feelings rather than their own loving spouses. In the case of Weiner, in terms of character judgement, was it worse to show pictures of himself in his underwear or to boldy lie about it. Pictures are stupid, lying is morally wrong. Maybe your wife should consider that. You are a good man, an honest man, and that is probably more than can be said about those she fears. Again, thanks for the post. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
Lux, did you say that we are given the choice to be textiled? I would aree that most children make their own choice at a point in their life and we should support that. Hopefully being raised in a nudist background has given them a better foundation on the concept that family and social nudity is not a bad thing and there is nothing to have fears about it. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
...and I for one am glad it won't go away. Please read the first line fo this topic again. It says " This group is about people who desire to live nude all the time and create communities or areas that would support their desire" yet I keep hearing reasons and excuses to the opposite from group members. I know what my motivation is, do you? Am I missing something in the concept of the group? I get so tired nudist wannabes or should I say the clothing optional one foot in and one foot out types minimalizing the concept and benefits of social nudity and nude living. Most of these people have more excuses and continually look for excuses and inclusionary rights to not be nude. So if that is the case, why do you insist on bringing the textile mentality to a nudist resort/club. Dump the clothes, get with the program, quit the excuses and the politically correct and inclusive mumbo-jumbo and get real. I choose to belong and go to nudist resorts/club because I am a NUDIST and not afraid to say it or be it. I truly desire to live nude full-time and I am committed to do what I can to make that a reality. I think it adds very positive benefits to my life and I enjoy it. Do clothed people at nudist resorts/clubs bother me... frankly yes, because they are not nudists, don't get nudism, usually expound on the joys of nudism because it is hip to do, and totally infringe on my nude sanctuary in this superficial textile based society. When I ask them why they are clothed, I usually here that it is their right to be clothed or not, it is clothing optional and nudist are supportive of that. WELL PLEASE take your right to the Mall and don't come back until you are ready to enjoy social nudity completely... get it! |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
What about children that are brought up in the nudist lifestyle? Do they ever make a conscious choice to be a nudist, or was this choice made for them by their parents? And the same question applies to children that are brought up in a textile family. This topic was originally posed as a question (word for word) by member dbo in relation to the other topic regarding the nudist choice. To not confuse the other topic I have posted the question here. Thank you dbo. SB |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Black Ties & Heels at LARC |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
The second annual Black Ties & Heels Dinner & Dance is being held at LARC on June 25, 2011. It is a prepaid $10 for a New York or Grilled Salmon complete dinner. It was a fabulous time last year. Great food and great music. I will be there with my black heels on, join me. More details go to LARC websit or ask. |
| Absolute Naturists National NUDE Donut Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
I forgot to post where I got my naked donuts at (always do actually). It is Rocket Donuts in Bellingham, WA. It is the home of GORT... remember the old movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still", yup he is there. It is a really cool retro donut shop. If you ever find yourself in Bellingham, drop in and visit GORT and have a very good naked donut. Check it out at: http://www.rocketdonuts.com/index.htm |
| Absolute Naturists The Nude Living Choice |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
Who's responsibility is it to determine if a person wants to live nude or not? Who makes that choice for them? Who lives the responsibility of that choice? Is that choice made before or after a visit to a nudist resort/club? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Best youth friendly resort? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
Chris, Why don't you inform us on what "facilities or events for younger people" that you think would help make the "retirement village's more friendly to youth? Maybe you could send a letter or article to the editor of AANR's The Bulletin for publication to let all the clubs know about your ideas. Obviously we don't know. BTW, Do you belong to AANR and do you know what they do? |
| Absolute Naturists Advertising Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 8, 2011 |
The original simple and plain question was: "Would you be willing to place a small advertisement (classified) in you local publication simply directing readers to AANR and TNS?". So far it sounds like the answer is the answer NO. Why no? Are you just not interested in this type of promotion? Are you afraid of something? Do you not want to spend any of your own money on it? Do you think there is a better way to do this? |
| Absolute Naturists Are Clothing Optional Clubs/Resorts Hurting Nudists? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 7, 2011 |
Capt, Cheers and thank you for the straight up talk. dbo, IMHO...No! Again, why do you join a golf club? Because you are a golfer. Why do you join a Tennis Club? Because you are a tennis player. Why do you join nudist club? Need I say more. If you really are one, be one and quit the nonsense. |
| Absolute Naturists Are Clothing Optional Clubs/Resorts Hurting Nudists? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 7, 2011 |
If you go to a tennis club, do you play golf? If you belong to a cigar club, do you smoke cigarettes? If you go to a nudist club, do you wear clothes? It seems to me that nudist clubs are the most forgiving in allowing contrary actions to continually occur... and I think that is hurting nudists. In all my experiences, nude clubs allow time for the newbies to get the drift. This applies to both management and members. They are usually very supportive. But in the end, it is a nudist club and people who want to become members or visit the club should get with the program and be nude. I think clothing optional clubs are allowing the momentum and acceptability for being clothed at nudist clubs, and this is hurting the nudist plight. To me, clothing optional means being clothed when practical, but complete nudity is expected most of the time. It is clothes-tolerant... not nude tolerant. Fireprof... I agree that the management is a guilty party when they remain dressed and waive fingers. This definitey hurts the nude movement because they are looked at as role models and the examples of behavior at their clubs...it is very contrary and just plain dumb. |
| Absolute Naturists Best youth friendly resort? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 7, 2011 |
Friendly or socially responsive? I think you will find most clubs are friendly to the age groups you stated, the problem is are they really socially responsive to what this age group likes to do for recreation. That was the premise of another thread and the answer was probably not. What are you looking for exactly in this post so we may all respond intelligently? |
| Absolute Naturists Advertising Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 6, 2011 |
I probably would have shyed away from Craigslist also, only because it has been used by the not so positive aspects of nudity. As you say... WELL, and as they say in Hollywood, any publicity is good publicity. What I was originally thinking was something more localized, like a local newspaper or penny ad type publication. Wording like: SOCIAL NUDITY IS A GOOD THING. Learn more at aanr.com -or- ENJOY NATURE NATURALLY. Learn more at TNS.com. |
| Absolute Naturists Advertising Social Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 5, 2011 |
Would you be willing to place a small advertisement (classified) in you local publication simply directing readers to AANR and TNS? What would you say? We all know and enjoy the pleasures of social and nude living. Let's share it with the world. We can start by a simple introduction such as this. Thanks Labrat for providing the basis of this post.SB |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 5, 2011 |
Wow Labrat, thanks for the very insightful and well thought out post. I like many of the ideas you have. One thing that struck me, in a broader sense was the advertising in regular publications. Yes that is very expensive for one person to undertake... BUT, what if each of us here, just in this group, was willing to spend and place an simple ad (maybe even cheapy classified type) simply directing people to AANR and TNS for starters. It would be interesting to see what would result. |
| Absolute Naturists National NUDE Donut Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 5, 2011 |
While I agree with Andy on the posted jokes, there are sometimes when we just need to have a laugh about stuff like everyone else. No harm no foul in this instance. I think (hope) we all get what Andy is talking about. Apreciate you thoughts Andy. By the way, I have actually been to Randy's Donuts. Glad you all like the lightheartedness of this topic. |
| Absolute Naturists Reach out and Tell a Friend |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 5, 2011 |
Thanks for the very honest post. I think all of us can learn from your approach to "damage control" and how approaching it as yuo have can have positive outcomes. I look forward to hearing more from you in the future. SB |
| Absolute Naturists National NUDE Donut Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 3, 2011 |
Yup, those naked donuts sure were good today, up in the Flybridge of our boat, second cup of coffee, naked as a Jaybird, checking out all the boats in the harbor... ah, life is good. Maybe I will try an Apple Fritter next time. Cheers to having a little nude fun on Nude Donut Day. |
| Absolute Naturists National NUDE Donut Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 2, 2011 |
UPDATE: June 1, 2012 is declared by me, Sunbunny, as National NUDE Donut Day...again. Let's all eat a donut and have some fun. *** Original Post Friday, June 3, 2011 has been declared by your Fearless Leader (me, SunBunny) to be National NUDE Donut Day. So go get a donut(s) and eat it in the Nude. Tell us what kind of donut you had (I think plain cake is a naked donut), did it taste any better while you were nude, what were you thinking about as you were eating that donut, did you invite anybody to eat a donut with you, or- or- or, just tell us whatever comes to your mind about eating donuts nude. *Actually every year, the first Friday in June is National Donut Day. There is a historical reason for this, it's not just another Hallmark Holiday. Krispy Kreme and Dunkin Donuts will be giving free donuts (see link below). You can read more about it at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/02/national-donut-day-2011-dunkin-donuts_n_870514.html |
| Absolute Naturists The Ideal Nudist Club/Resort |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 2, 2011 |
Hoya, you are definitely not an idiot... actually I applaud for having the courage to speak your mind and put forth your thoughts. Please keep it up, you are great addition to this group. BTW, I like some of your ideas on this subject, thanks! SB |
| Absolute Naturists YOUR Nude Quote of the Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 1, 2011 |
Live it or Loose it. |
| Absolute Naturists Simply Living Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 1, 2011 |
I think we are all conditioned, trained and forced to wear clothes. It started when we were very young, before we had any say over it. I said in the topic narrative "Living nude begins with overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors". We all have to deal with the textile rules of engagement,that is not what I was talking about... that is a different story and I get what everybody deals with. Even living in a nude resort, you still need to dress to get groceries and stuff. I do think it is interesting that almost all of you fell back into the "need to because" excuses so quickly without exploring in your heads the reasons why we think we need to wear clothes. I think when you over come the belief that you NEED to wear clothes, you begin to truly realized just how ridiculous they are in any setting. Also, you begin to relieve yourselves of the hangups and fears about social nudity and the ability to talk about the simplicity of nude living becomes easy. |
| Absolute Naturists The Ideal Nudist Club/Resort |
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SunBunny Posted: Jun 1, 2011 |
Hypothectically speaking, as the owner of your own nudist club/resort, how would you operate it. What rules would you have, what activities, what promotions, what outreach, etc. ... in essence, how or what would you do to make it the ideal club/resort? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 31, 2011 |
Living nude begins with overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors. It means simply living nude. "Clothing optional" is one foot in and one foot out. "Where appropriate" is one foot in and one foot out. "Living nude" is living nude. Where is your head at and why? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 25, 2011 |
Jim, your answer on Pentanque: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s9BpxOsOY4 SB |
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SunBunny Posted: May 25, 2011 |
I agree with FireProf, this symbol is aligned to much with truckers, rednecks, titty bars, nude women, swingers. Wrong message. If the company designed it for you, they don't get the nudist arena. I would not fly it. Again my simple points, don't make it look like a traditional burgee and yacht club encrypted design, make it classy, distinguishable and easy to read from a moving distance, make it simple and clear so anybody knows what it is about be they nudist or textiles. If I was going to do it, this is what I would do: small flag 12x18 swallow tail rectagular (white), 1/2 tail tip border red, Applique/Cut & Stitch lettering in blue, top centered lettering - NUDIST, lower centered lettering - USA. This I would fly and it says it all proudly and distinctly. The reason for the Applique/Cut & Stitch is that it is more durable and resistant to wind, water and fading. Hoya, Thanks for keeping me in the loop. SB |
| Absolute Naturists The Price Of Nude Recreation & Enjoyment |
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SunBunny Posted: May 25, 2011 |
As you all know, I rarely start off a post on topics. I like to hear what you all have to say before putting my 2cents in. But I feel a little more impassioned about this topic so here go's: Any club will have a cost factor so as to cover the costs of operations. They are businesses. True, Landed nude clubs usually have higher membership fees than Travel (non-landed) because of their overhead costs. Mixed into this is the costs of supporting nude recreation support and protection groups such as AANR. yes... cost cost cost, but what is the value to you. There is really no such thing as a free lunch. When we structured are "annual" membership fees for our club (NWNBC.org) we wanted to keep that in mind and our overhead costs were minimal in arriving at a figure. Boating is an expensive form of recreation just by itself, but those of us who enjoy it pay the price of admission because it bring personal value to our lives. Anyway, our annual fees including AANR annual fees is $58. Of that, $15 is for club expenses and $43 if for ANNR Annual Membership. Now if I equate that to one or two nice dinners at a nicer resturant (or even McDonalds 10 times a year), membership in our club and AANR is undoubtly cheaper, and for the whole year not just two dinners worth. Did I derive as much pleasure and personal value out of those two dinners, perhaps, but not a years worth. My point is if nude recreation has value to you, you will find it in your budget. If it doesn't you won't. |
| Absolute Naturists The Price Of Nude Recreation & Enjoyment |
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SunBunny Posted: May 25, 2011 |
What value do you place on nude recreation and personal enjoyment? Nude recreation is a niche market and with that comes a cost. In addition, the priviledge and protections to continue to enjoy this nude personal enjoyment has a cost. What is it worth to you? |
| Absolute Naturists Why Join a Nudist Club? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 24, 2011 |
I belong to three clubs, two co and one nudist,I own one of the clubs, I belong to AANR and TNS, I contribute articles and letters to the editor to the AANR Bulletin, I openly talk about social nudity and nude recreation with anybody I meet,so I think I do my fair share to support the clothes free nudist endeavor. Why do I join clubs and do the other stuff I do, because I truly believe social nudity is a positive way to live for everybody and I put my money where my mouth is. I guess when I posed this topic, this is the type of input I was looking for. This question was meant to be really about self-introspection, hence look in our own backyards before looking in others. It is an attempt to arrive at some answers as to what we can do to insure that social and recreational nudity continues to exist. |
| Absolute Naturists Why Join a Nudist Club? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 24, 2011 |
Why do we choose or not choose to join a Nudist/CO club? Many on NCH do not belong to a club or even belong to AANR or TNS. So why are we harping on getting young people involved, providing deep thought solutions and philosophies when there are many of the older generation that are not involved. Seem like we should look at our own backyard first. Tell me what you think, Thanks. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 24, 2011 |
First, my thoughts on the word "patience" and the younger generation. I am not sure the word patient is in the mindset of a group that was raised in the era of Internet, Iphones, Social Networks, Texting, and 500+ TV channels. Maybe we need to let that one go. My definition of patience and theirs is very different in time aspects I am sure. ok, now I am going to go against the grain of bending over backwards to get younger folks involved in organized nudism. Note, I didn't say social nudism, I said organized nudism. I think we all want better things for our kids and grandkids, that is what we all have worked so hard for. But we must never forget that we can't make their lives for them. Yes we "geezers" know and have experienced the joys and freedoms of nudism so naturally we want it for them also. But we can't want it more for them than they want it for themselves. Only they understand what they want, need and enjoy. We will never make them drink out of our same glass. Let it go. I say let them enjoy what they want as we have done. In some ways it seems like we geezers have gotten caught up in this make happen now mentality sense of urgency when maybe we don't have to. The Clubs/resorts that some of us frequent and enjoy have been there for years. Just look at the ASA days. Many of those pioneers were probably saying the same things about us. I cringe everytime I say something to my grandkids that I remember hearing my grandparents say to me...funny how life has a cycle. I think the clubs/resorts will have the same cycle. We just need to let it evolve naturally. |
| Absolute Naturists The Nudist Click Moment |
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SunBunny Posted: May 22, 2011 |
I always liked being nude but the magic moment 'Click" was my first visit to Elysium (now closed and long gone) as I was sitting on the gentle slopping lawn late afternoon. It was so peaceful and natural, so removed from the madness and demands of the world, pure and fresh... that is when I woke up to my place in the world and said yes this is how I want my life to be. Mid 70's I think, it has been so long ago but I still remember the moment as if it were yesterday. |
| Absolute Naturists Favorite Beverages While Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: May 22, 2011 |
Goombay Smash... have a few, sitback, enjoy mahn... it's all good on da islands |
| Absolute Naturists YOUR Nude Quote of the Day |
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SunBunny Posted: May 22, 2011 |
What is your favorite original nude saying that could/would be YOUR Nude Quote of the Day? Ponder all the things you say when you are nude and see what you come up with and share. Have fun! |
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SunBunny Posted: May 21, 2011 |
This is what I was kinda thinking, not a burgee since it is not a yacht club but more of a statement type of flag that all nudists could fly anywhere. They can still be in different shapes. Flag pole at home, somewhere on the boat, but the design has to be easily recognizable and not to complicated with graphics... more like colors and letters. it can come in several sizes maybe like a small one for boat/RV and bigger one for home. AANR and TNS quit offering theirs. I think the demand was not there. Check out Prestige Flag in San Diego, CA - http://www.prestigeflag.com/index.php. They may be able to help in the endeavor. We have a burgee from them, good quality. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DISCUSSION... since this is the Nude Boating NCH group, there may be some of us who have YC burgees flying from a jackstaff or shroud. There is a website that actually identifies most burgees if they are registered. They are tradition in the YC arena. We have one or jackstaff from our YC. I would like to fly one that is not confused with a YC, like those for Happy Hour with a martini glass. This one should maybe just say NUDIST. Like maybe white with red edging with big blue letters. Simple to read and not hiding anything. Let it be a statement of pride as well as information to vistors or passerbys. |
| Absolute Naturists Preferred Nudist Environments |
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SunBunny Posted: May 20, 2011 |
My Favorite and Most Preferred is where I am at Right Now... on our boat, anchored in a small bay in the San Juan Islands, WA. It is just beautiful and feels so good to feel the sun and air all over the body, completely nude as nature intended. Love it. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude In Public |
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SunBunny Posted: May 19, 2011 |
We kinda got side tracked on the whole boating thing. Since this is a really good thread in it's original intention, let's get back to Nude in Public stories please... thanks everybody, SB |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
A new way to network with other nudist boaters. I just created a Google Group named Nudist-Naturist Boaters USA specifically for communicating and networking with all nude boaters in the USA. This resulted from discussions we had in the Absolute Naturists NCH Group. Check it out and tell me what you think. Thanks! http://groups.google.com/group/NNBUSA IMPORTANT NOTE:This is not a NCH group, it is just another way to communicate with boaters. |
| Nude Boating New Nudist-Naturist USA Boaters Group |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
A new way to network with other nudist boaters. I just created a Google Group named Nudist-Naturist Boaters USA specifically for communicating and networking with all nude boater in the USA. This resulted from discussions we had in the Absolute Naturists NCH Group. Check it out and tell me what you think. Thanks! http://groups.google.com/group/NNBUSA IMPORTANT NOTE: This is not a NCH Group, it is just another way for boaters to communicate. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude In Public |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
You are absolutely Correct... You are first, FireProf second... who's next? Actually because of this discussion, I just created a Google Group named Nudist-Naturist Boaters USA that is open to all intersted folks to join and network. Check it out. http://groups.google.com/group/NNBUSA I run several of these groups on Google, we even use one for our club communications soI have quite a bit of experience with it. I just never thought of it before, thanks Hoya. This one is public so it is on Google's directory. Tell everyone you know and lets get the group going. You are going to have to have a google account to join. It's free and you can use any email address you want when you get your google account. SB |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
Actually there is one, a fellow based in FL has Yahoo Group name Naked Yacht Club with a very nice burgee, we have one and we paid a bunch for it because of the low volume I guess. However, I am not sure what the status is now since some of the nudist yahoo groups, bareboating for example, have become ultra gay oriented sites. I am trying to get in touch with the group owner via the group. I will post what I find out. We have been thinking about creating a burgee (flag)for our club, but I do like the idea of global nude boater flags better. Let me work on that. FireProf, I would love to have you as my first customer. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
No worries folks.... call me what you want, just don't call me late for the BBQ. Actually I thought Lux was using his Spanglish. Whatever, still here LMAO, doing my small part to change the world. SB |
| Absolute Naturists The Nudist Click Moment |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
What/When was your "Nudist Click" moment when you accepted nudity and the desire to live nude as part of your life? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
One more time for me... I was out talking to local boating related businesses about getting discounts for our club members (NWNBC.org) when one of the Yacht Charter owners somewhat arrogantly asked me what is so different about our club than any others in the area... to which I paused, calmly looked him in the eye, smiled and said we are clothing optional and are affiliated with national nudist organizations... they are not. He paused, looked at me and looked at my club business card and said "cool, is this the website where I can find out more information on your club". |
| Absolute Naturists Nude In Public |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
Speaking of nude on boats... a couple of years ago we were cruising on our sailboat down the Trincomali Channel in the Canadian Gulf islands. It is traveled by a fair amount of boaters. It was a beautiful day, sun shining, so I laid out nude on the bow with a comfy pillow,my ipod and our comm radio to communicate with the helm. Hubby was at the helm and would let me know if we had any lookylus approaching. He comm'ed me and told me that a very large ship had just turned our way and was approaching... but I had dozed off until I heard the water churning and look over to see a very large Canadian Navy ship, huge white numbers on the side of the huge gray hull, with it's Bridge towering over and with complete view of me completely nude facing them. Hubby was laughing and jested that I had just seen the entire Canadian Navy (they have a small Navy) to which I quickly responded... and they just seen the entire me. Yes,it was a wonderful cruise. |
| Absolute Naturists NAKED CONVERSATIONS WITH NUDE WOMEN |
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SunBunny Posted: May 18, 2011 |
I have to agree with you Hoya, that was exactly my consternation with this video also... the limited perspective. Yet, it was enough to stir up significant debate here in the group. This is what vids/movies like this are for, to raise our thought processes. For that reason, I like it and I encourage all members to post anything like this. I think it helps us all continue to grow. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 16, 2011 |
Sometimes I think hearding cats is easier than gathering nude boaters (or any boaters for that matter). Keep shouting! |
| Absolute Naturists Bare to Breakers |
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SunBunny Posted: May 16, 2011 |
My opinion... Considering the media picked up on this change (I read it in the Wall Street Journal) it is a Super great thing. It shows that there are really much worse things than just being nude and having fun. I wish I could go this year... it is going to be huge fun. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 16, 2011 |
Which topic of over the 100 posted on Absolute Naturists is your Favorite. Why? Add to it with a challenge and bring it to the top if you would like. There have been so many excellent topics posted, and so many excellent response posts submitted, it really seem a shame to let some of them get buried. What do you think. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Fears |
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SunBunny Posted: May 16, 2011 |
In my quest to live nude as nature intended, knowing and understanding that it is not a bad thing, what I fear most is _______________________. (fill in the blank) Please be more global than just saying "being arrested", I think we would all agree on that. |
| Absolute Naturists Bare to Breakers |
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SunBunny Posted: May 15, 2011 |
Nude - 1 / Drunk - 0. The Bay to Breakers & Bare2Breakers is this coming weekend (May 22, 2011) in San Francisco celebrating it's 100th Anniversary. In the past the nude contigent Bare2breakers, often got threatened and harassed on nudity issues. This year Nude is Good and Drunk is Not. What do you think about this change? |
| Absolute Naturists Busy Schedules and Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: May 15, 2011 |
Hoya, as Gym put it so eloquently... if you step on toes it is probably because we are barefoot all over. Never worry about that, this group is all about stepping on toes and talking about stuff nobody wants to talk about...Right everybody? Appreciate your input, keep it up. SB |
| CA Valley Nudes Any naked hiding spots? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 13, 2011 |
Here are three places from my old times in the CA Central Valley: 1) Millerton Lake: drive to the end of Sky Harbor Road, there is a picnic ground area where you can park your car there. There are trails you can use to walk to further up river. I would lay out nude overlooking the lake river in some of these remote areas. Keep an eye out for snakes. 2) Millerton Lake: If you have a boat, I often basked nude up river just down from the log jam, just anchor in a nook and enjoy; The bass fishing guys never minded at all. 3) Central Coast: I used to get nude between Morro Bay and Cayucos. Near where the old Standard Pier use to be. Sometimes had to cover up briefly if someone walked by but then it was usually a fishing person and they didn't care. It has been a long time since I have been at any of these places so times may have changed. Check it out before relying on my past good time info. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 13, 2011 |
Sorry for the drift off subject but to answer Hoya's question: Absolute Naturists is a group here on Nudist Clubhouse. Browse or search groups and you will find us. No URL. Our nude boating club is NWNBC.org. You can always add a note to somebodys profile without being a premium member, try it. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Favorite Beverages While Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: May 13, 2011 |
What are some of your favorite beverages to indulge in while you are enjoying your nude time? Have a special recipe/mix to share, please do. |
| Absolute Naturists Attract A Younger Crowd |
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SunBunny Posted: May 12, 2011 |
Interesting that I was thinking along the same lines of casualness versus clubby. There are some logistics to work out but I think it can be done. Thanks for the link Skiflydive. A very good article to make you think. There are lots of other good articles on this site that I would definitely recommend reading. Very good perspectives to ponder in many areas of nude life. |
| Absolute Naturists Busy Schedules and Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: May 12, 2011 |
How can busy people, no matter what their age, fit nudity into their schedules and lives? Your thoughts please. BTW- this a milestone, Topic #100... congrats everyone. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 10, 2011 |
Visit the Family Nudists group. I did ask? So far, no responses... hmmmm Why Don't you ask your kids, grandkids, neighbors kids, nudist club member's kids, the coffee house crowd or whoever would be of this age group and tell us what they say, better yet have them get on (join, ugh) NCH and let them tell us old farts what they want. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 9, 2011 |
Let's hear from the younger set on what they think about nude living and the current nudist club formats. Parents, ask your kids what they think and please share if you can. This is the great debate going on now so it would be good to hear the younger generation's ideas and thoughts. Please, we seriously need the input. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 9, 2011 |
I think what the last two poster's said is what I was trying to say when I spoke to the "deadwood" (thanks Fireprof) grumpy sleepy fuddy duddys runing the show at clubs. They don't get social networking or gameing as the younger folks don't get sitting around having a drink playing cards or Shuffle board. I have to believe that some younger folks like and appreciate social nudism, look at Vita Nude, so maybe if you "Oldsters" stop treating social nudity as a bad thing in your mindsets and teachings, start telling the "Deadwood" to stand down and go play Shuffle Board and encourage the younger generation to step up and suggest and change things at the many clubs... then MAYBE MAYBE we would begin to accomplish attracting a younger crowd. |
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SunBunny Posted: May 9, 2011 |
Intelligent nude is part of living nude 24/7 no matter when you are... unless you are a polar bear or a desert lizard Living nude to me is overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors. |
| Northwest Nudists So we are starting a small group in Kennewick WA |
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SunBunny Posted: May 9, 2011 |
Build it and they will come. Having just launched our NW boating club (nwnbc.org) we know first hand that it takes someone to step and take the lead if you want to make it happen. Don't be discouraged if it is slow, seems like nudists in our area are still thawing out from the cold wet winter. Keep moving forward, it will happen! NW People, put your Uggs on and GO! |
| Northwest Nudists WA Nudist College Students |
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SunBunny Posted: May 9, 2011 |
Maybe you can reach out a little to some who do have more time... like Vita Nude. Sure the weather in the NW is NOT like Florida but there is a time a place for everything and I know for a fact that local clubs are more than welcoming of the student population. LARC has a booth at the Western WA outdoor event every year. Get a hold of them and maybe you can join them at the booth for a little bit. I think it would really put a younger and more relevant face on things. I would be happy to get you more details IF you are interested. |
| Absolute Naturists Reach out and Tell a Friend |
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SunBunny Posted: May 7, 2011 |
So Do We!!! LOL! ROL... but on the towel. ok so much for my silliness. Just thought I would get on the so's with two of my favorite people. By the way FireProf I appreciate your caveat on not hijacking the thread on the personal hygiene. I was contemplating posting it as a Topic but there are just so many varibles that I am not sure what value could be achieved. I will leave it to the group membership to decide. In any event, I think we can fairly correctly imagine what the underwear of some of these textiles who ask such a question probably looks like. oh...TMI and no I really do not want to know more. LOL one more time, it is a good thing. |
| Absolute Naturists Attract A Younger Crowd |
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SunBunny Posted: May 7, 2011 |
Hey Lux, thanks for all your posts and congrats on getting out there more and talking to folks. I appreciate that. ok, Back to the subject. As you may find or experience the more you get involved, the fuddy duddys either live full time, almost full time or at least have homes at many resorts and are just not willing to give it up on weekends so the youngsters can come and play. In essence many take a posture as if they are club owners and have full rights to say what go's on, when quiet times begin and end, appropriate decibel levels for music and music preferences, types of games and activities and so forth. This is where things go astray. So the issue of fee paying is not the guiding rule in many of these cases. Now don't get me wrong, there are a number of older folks that are as hip as any and I think younger people actually enjoy them. Anyway, if club ownership stood up to these fuddy duddys and attempted to balance out activities and standards for their club so that all could equally enjoy as you say... we would not be talking about this. My experience so far is that they won't because fuddy duddys are typically on their Boards and Committees and serve as a substantional and consistent part of the club's income. I have seen it personally and it exists in many of the current model clubs. Am I wrong in this school of thought anybody? |
| Nude Boating Where in the world? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 6, 2011 |
Hi Hoya, I guess I quit being amazed how many nude boaters you encounter on the waters... I love it! Our rule is be nude whenever and whereever you can. I keep telling my hubby that maybe we ought to take our boat your way, I would love to cruise that area nude. see us at nwnbc.org Also invite you to join Absolute Naturists if you are interested in spirited discussions. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Attract A Younger Crowd |
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SunBunny Posted: May 6, 2011 |
Commenting on the Quote: I think the whole life style may dissappear "as we know it" if we don't make efforts to bring new generations in... but that is ok with me. Change is good. Actually lets get real, young folks are not going to join in the current structure, that is why we are talking about it and AANR is having issues with membership. Most of us grew up in a time when public nudity was taboo. The young generation did not and their knowledge base is much broader and more flexible in these formative years than ours ever was. Most resorts/clubs are now like retiree homes... no fun for young folks and even I sometimes get tired of the old grumpy sleepy fuddy duddys at these clubs. I think we need to get away from the club/resort membership type structure and move to a "Fun Center" structure that embraces social nudity that provides a safe and fun environment with a variety of activities to keep you going. Many say the younger generation are not "joiners" and I say BS to that. They just don't join stuff that is of not direct value to them. They join gyms don't they? Fun Centers could work in my opinion and active fun folks of all ages could enjoy them and would join them. Keep the retirment clubs for the grumpy sleepy fuddy duddys (and you know the ones I am talking about). |
| Absolute Naturists Reach out and Tell a Friend |
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SunBunny Posted: May 6, 2011 |
Thanks FireProf! In this case we didn't even know they were boaters but it all worked out fine and even better. Yes, you may encounter someone who freaks but most will at least give you the courtesy of listening. It will be their decision to act or not so understand that and let it be. I drop a pebble in the water and hope one of the many ripples will touch sombody. You just never know where your words will go. Any other stories out there? Let's hear some. |
| Absolute Naturists What Can You Do to Promote Positive Naturism? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 6, 2011 |
Perfecto FireProf! Just be honest, be yourself and don't make a big deal out of it, I think we are on the same page in our approach. It seems like the subject of social nudity is not that hidden anymore, most folks get it or are at least curious. Word of mouth is always the best form of advertisement no matter what... so talk about it casually, openly and honestly. You may be surprised in the positive responses you get and MORE So how your own confidence will build in talking about nude living with people. |
| Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave |
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SunBunny Posted: May 5, 2011 |
Very cute Andy...I am not sure if I got it right but the Nakedist would view it more as a Homophobic weird type of "dude" thing versus the nudists see it rathers a simple preference thing. Anyway, yes these types of threads continue, almost exclusively by males with most not adding any educational value, and usually with the same upmanship or exhibitionist tone. I have heard the cries for help... yeah yeah yeah... look it up on the internet, no need to share here. Dave88, I too wish they would go away... but they will not. I try to look at as a perspective from the non-nudist school of thought or the Nakedist. Sorry folks, I live in nudist environments and we just don't have a pressing need to talk about shaving your balls or who has the longest pubic hair. Time to get on with the real program little shavers. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists LARC Activities in Mount Vernon |
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SunBunny Posted: May 5, 2011 |
If you have never visited LARC I wold encourage that you put it on your want to do list. Here are some more activities: Friday - May 20 Meet & Greet / Campfire Wine & Cheese 7:30pm Movie Night 8:30pm Saturday - May 21 LARC Beautification Day 9:00am Victoria Day Karaoke Night 8:00pm Sunday - May 22 Breakfast 9:00am Build your own Breakfast Burritos Friday - May 27 Meet & Greet / Campfire Wine & Cheese 7:30pm Saturday - May 28 Rain Drop Festival Weekend Dance 8:00pm |
| Absolute Naturists Reach out and Tell a Friend |
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SunBunny Posted: May 5, 2011 |
Recently Jack and I have had many opportunities to talk about our nudist living and clothing-optional activities due to our new boating club, NWNBC. Not just with people we know, because they all know already, but with total stangers. Here is an example. Just the other day we were in Costco looking for a new printer/scanner/yadayada machine. Just before we had gone to the local Office Depot looking at the same printers for price comparisons. While looking at Costco another couple came up and started looking at the same one we were looking at... and they said had just seen us over a Office Depot. As we talked we mentioned that we needed a new printer on our boat for our new club business, the NorthWest Naturist Boating Club, a Clothing-Optional boating club. Their ears perked up with interest, they are boaters as well, we exchanged information, mentioned the AANR and Natursit Society affiliations, and they are interested in joining our club. A very positive response from total strangers.... so there you go. This is the type of response we have gotten every time... from the nail salon, grocery store, to Costco. |
| Absolute Naturists Attract A Younger Crowd |
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SunBunny Posted: May 5, 2011 |
"The whole lifestyle will just dissapear unless we attract a younger crowd" said Nicky Hoffman of the Naturist Society. This was a quote in a recent article in the Monday May 2,2011 edition of The Wall Steet Journal. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703856704576285653184636030.html What are your thoughts on this statement? |
| Absolute Naturists Reach out and Tell a Friend |
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SunBunny Posted: May 4, 2011 |
Start out the Nude Season right and tell a Friend about social and recreational nudity. This is the perfect time to introduce somebody to social nudity. To help with that, it would be interesting to hear some stories that you have experienced about what happened when you told somebody about being a nudist. Got to be some good stories, let's share a few. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Advocates - Who is? |
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SunBunny Posted: May 4, 2011 |
Who should be or would be better advocates for social nudity, Organizations or Individuals? The recent edition of the AANR Bulletin had some discussion about AANR becomeing more advocacy based and not club based. Maybe yes, maybe no, maybe maybe. In my mind, the question arises of who would make a better and more direct advocate for nude recreation or nude living. What do you think? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 27, 2011 |
Eat, Play & Dance Naked at LARC this weekend (April 29 -May 1) Friday Night 7:30p - Meet & Greet (bring wine & snack to share) 8:30p - Game Night (assortment of games) Saturday 12p - BBQ Grill Lunch 8:30p - Dance (rockin' DJ) Sunday 9:00a - French Toast Breakfast LARC - Mount Vernon, WA www.larcnudists.com |
| Absolute Naturists TO BE OR NOT TO BE … NUDE |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 24, 2011 |
.. and that is what this group is about. Without trying to be bias towards my positive view and quest for a world of nude living that these pictures, especially side by side give such a clear testament to the simple notion that it just seems so much more natural and in true harmony with the world to be nude in all we do. Thanks for the post Andy. |
| Absolute Naturists NAKED CONVERSATIONS WITH NUDE WOMEN |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 24, 2011 |
I think it is so interesting that some of you men had trouble putting this in any other context than male bashing or castration. That is just DickHeadishness at it finest. To me this piece is about, from the female perspective, the internal thinking patterns and roles of the two genders, how they interact with the world, and how they view the future. Estrogen plays a major stabilizing role in female multi-tasking abilities as testosterone plays a major role in the aggressive traits of men. What I heard these women saying is that if a closer aligned balanced could be achieved between the sexes, a better world could be achieved. What is so hard to understand about that. |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 20, 2011 |
Interested in networking with other NW nudists about stuff to do outdoors? Join up on NorthWest Outdoor Nudists here on NC. Let's have some fun in the crisp fresh air. Check it out! |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 20, 2011 |
Time to start planning. Anybody know of any events going on in the NW in May? April is good to. |
| NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Hey NorWest'rs - Say Hello and Intro Yourself |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 19, 2011 |
Welcome to this new group. It is for only naturists/nudist for the North West (US & BC). |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Company Office |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 17, 2011 |
Eg, It is still there... and you can even enlarge the pictures to get a closer look. As a previous HR professional, I find the application process wording interesting. It says: I interview some applicants on the phone and, if they are successful in that, I then invite some to my flat for a nude interview. I can then see if they are really naturists and have the right attitudes. Right Attitudes... ah, hmmm. Did anyone hear "Casting Couch" in that. I bet the guys don't get to the Flat. While I would truly love to see a company that supports nudism in the office environment, this guy is a goof ball in my opinion. I think AANR really needs to step up on what they post about. I am writing to AANR about this. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Clubs/Resorts in Your Area |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 17, 2011 |
Three Places: >Natures Resort, Edcouch, Texas (landed) Most of the Winter Texans (snowbirds) are gone now so the park is much quieter and spaces are available usually. it will get very warm but usually dry heat and there are pools to play in. A good place to get a really nice dark tan. Info at naturesresorttexas.com (landed) >LARC, Mount Vernon, Washington Mostly a weekender type park although it is open year-round. Activities take place on weekend. Fun and friendly group of people. It is located in beautiful wooded campground type environement. Deer are frequent vistors. Can be rainy and cold but when the sun comes out it is very nice. Very relaxing place to be nude. Info at larcnudists.com >NorthWest Naturist Boating Club, Bellingham Washington (non-landed, literally) A new AANR/TNS affiliated boating club. No boat required but it helps. Boating cruises throughout the San Juan Islands and Gulf Islands. Membership required for cruise information. Info at nwnbc.org |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Living - A Weekend Seminar |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 17, 2011 |
You did fine Jim. Glad you had a good experience. Thanks for the input FireProf, excellent as usual, maybe we can get something like this going across the states. Again it is not a reality at this time, but an idea I wanted to explore with all of you. Anyone else have ideas? |
| Absolute Naturists World Naked Gardening Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 17, 2011 |
Definitely planting some more ferns and other assorted deer food on the day. I am at LARC now (Mount Vernon, WA) so when it is warm enough or I ever get climatized, I am going to be nude all the time out here again and plant stuff and cut grass and run around all the trees nude... like a little kid. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Living - A Weekend Seminar |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 16, 2011 |
If we were to put together a weekend Nudist Living weekend seminar where people were required to participate nude all weekend (these would be people new to the world of nudist living), what subjects do you think would be good to cover? Should it be a women only/ men only/ or coed. Of course this is hypothetical at this time but maybe it is not a bad idea for the future. Give us your ideas. |
| Absolute Naturists World Naked Gardening Day |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 16, 2011 |
World Naked Gardening Day (WNGD) is May 14, 2011. Are you planning to do anything? Is there anything you can do in your neighborhood or commuity to promote the day? Tell us your plans. Here is more info> http://www.wngd.org/ |
| Absolute Naturists Tech Company Job Requirement: Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 16, 2011 |
See the new post - Nudist Company / Office. This is what I was talking about previously here on how posts should be submitted. With the proper subject framing it is a good subject to discuss. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Company Office |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 16, 2011 |
AANR recently include the following subject regarding a company named NudeHouse in the UK that is creating a nudist only company/office environment. I am attaching the url from the AANR publication below for your review. It is a slightly different take than was posted on here previously. Please read it first then give us you take on the concept. Is is viable? Is there credibilty behind it especially in terms of who the primary candidates they are seeking? Hoe do you think it could work in your arenas? Is Crigslist good for this? Lots of avenues to go down. Let's dicuss it. Here is the URl from the AANR punblication: http://www.hrzone.co.uk/topic/business-lifestyle/naked-office-recruiting/110727 |
| Absolute Naturists Setting an Example as Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 13, 2011 |
Tell me your thoughts on how we can portray to the world that naturism/nudism is a healthy way of living. What can each of us do to set a positive example of nudist living. Lets talk. |
| Absolute Naturists Tech Company Job Requirement: Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 13, 2011 |
While this is not the type of thing I think is appropriate for a discussion post, especially when there is no point to be discussed included... I thought I would let it go on and see what your responses would be. As I expected, it provided not value. I do encourage you to post subjects to talk about, but please be responsible in trying to put some value behind it for everybody. This is not at that level. I think this makes my work towards creating an accepting world of nudist living a big joke. Not a happy camper here. I would like us to move on to real subjects that we can grow with. |
| Northwest Nudists Nude Time Coming Soon |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 6, 2011 |
We plan to spend a lot of time on the water with our new club, Northwest Naturists Boating Club. It will be a nice change after being in warm Texas all winter. Probably be at LARC on karaoke weekends, that is always a blast and all the people there are lots of fun. |
| Absolute Naturists Your Nudist Story |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 6, 2011 |
In a different post on Absolute Naturists, Gymnostim wrote: "I always like to read about how people got started and their history with naturism." As a follow up, I thought that it just might be fun and interesting to share some of our stories. Anybody interested? Thanks Gymnostim. SB |
| Absolute Naturists Facebook - Good or Bad for Nudists? |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 6, 2011 |
Are social networks like Facebook good or bad for nudists in promoting the acceptance of nude living? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Home Nudist Pontification |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 5, 2011 |
Lux, Thank you, you have. We all start somewhere and this is a good place to learn from some of us who have been there and done that. For many of us, we did not have a tool like this website to talk with others consequently we had to learn by our own wits. It was a little scary but we survived and you will to if you really want to. Make plans to go to club/resort somewhere and feel the experience. There use to be a non-landed group club in Vegas,if it still is it may be a good place. If not, the Vegas airport has flights everywhere so go. Naked Boy, yes living in a "colony" is tuff but somebody has to do it. same advice to you, do some more reading on nude living, join AANR or TNS, and GO SOMEWHERE... get the H out of Dodge. Only you can open your doors, it is not about luck it is about perservance and living YOUR life. |
| Absolute Naturists Home Nudist Pontification |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 4, 2011 |
Lux, please read the topic again... I luv you but I think you are doing it. Please help me/us try to better understand the thought process. Maybe some of us can learn from what you are saying. thanks. |
| Absolute Naturists Complacent Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 4, 2011 |
NOTE: This was in response to a post that has been removed by the poster. I don't remember who that was but they were talking about doing housework in the nude and telling people on Facebook about it. Some of you may have read it. This post does not make a lot of sense now but the Facebook thing is interesting so I am leaving it here. SB Huh? Not sure how this fits in the posted topic to be honest with you. Are you saying that posting on Facebook about doing your house work nude is being an activist? Maybe you can clarify your intention. As far as Facebook, not my cup of tea. What's the point of talking nudist stuff to a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend that probably still equates nudity with sex and probably in the end just considers you a freak or perv or exhibitionist of some sort. It does nothing to further the cause for acceptance of nudist living. Just think about the responses you got. If you are looking for a dialogue, maybe you should consider just placing subjects/posts on NCH. That what this is for and at least most of us here get it. Your call. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Clubs/Resorts in Your Area |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 4, 2011 |
Please share your thoughts,experiences and general information with naturist/nudist/co clubs and resorts in your areas. Summer is quickly approaching and this would be good information for all of us and possibly make plans to visit for a wonderful new nude experience. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudity and Health |
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SunBunny Posted: Apr 2, 2011 |
We all enjoy the feel of warm sunshine on our bodies. The question is, are there health risks involved in this pleasure and if so what can we do as naturists/nudists to prevent or minimize these risks. Please share stories, experiences, readings, or whatever in tis regard for the benefit of us all. |
| Absolute Naturists Complacent Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 31, 2011 |
Nudists and many Nudist organizations appear to have become complacent in their movement towards nude social acceptance. True, there have been many gains in the past decades upon which you may rest your laurels, but the trophy of nude social acceptance is far from won. Where are you on the Complacent Nudist scale? Why? |
| Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 31, 2011 |
To me the term harkens back to "colonies". What was the appropriate location for lepers? Are we allowing the application by the textile world that we in some way are infectious and should be relagated to far removed places from society. This is the primary POINT of the question people, not ahhh my backyoard... geez. The other really important point in the legislation of this term is who determines appropriate location... the textile world, that is who. Who is driving the Nudist Bus... the Textiles! And where are they taking you... to Appropriate Locations! Fireprof hit the nail exactly on the head on this one and that is a REAL Problem. I am a product of the 60's and 70's when change was determined by protest of unquestioned norms. To me, this term is a definite detriment to moving towards nudist acceptance. It is PC-BS. I am not a LEPER...Are You? |
| Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 31, 2011 |
The term "appropriate locations" is being used with more frequency to designate areas where social nudity is acceptable. It is a very vague and ambiguous term. What are your thoughts on this term and it's use by naturist/nudists? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Club Policies on Married Men vs Married Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 30, 2011 |
Do you think the policies for married men versus married women should be different at nudist clubs? Any specific policy come to mind? Have you had experiences in this regard? |
| Absolute Naturists Movie - Blaze Starr Goes Nudist |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 30, 2011 |
Tell us what you think about the movie Blaze Starr Goes Nudist (1962)? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Bill of Rights - The point is? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 30, 2011 |
What do you think the POINT of the Nudist Bill of Rights, as put forth by AANR, is all about? Why do we need something like this? Who is it written for? Would you sign it? yes/no and why. |
| Family Nudists Teach Your Children Well |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 26, 2011 |
Our children are our future and our legacy. They listen to you, watch you and learn from you. What are you teaching your children about nudity, social nudity and recreation nudity? |
| Absolute Naturists 3 Most FUN Outdoor Things to do Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 26, 2011 |
1) And also and definitely the MOST Pleasurable for me is strolling down a beautiful ocean beach with my toes in the gentle lapping waters edge totally nude in the warm sun. Did this in Mexico. 2) Playing Water Volleyball. Jumping, splashing and laughing... all nude like when I was a kid. 3) Boating... especially Sailing with the gentle breezes caressing you everywhere in total harmony with the world. Ah heck, even washing the car is more fun nude. |
| Absolute Naturists Road Blocks to Public Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 26, 2011 |
Here is where I am coming from on this topic. A portion of the mantra of this group reads: "would like to see a more open society that views nude living and positive public nudity as a normal part of life". We all have probably read the laws so no need to quote them, blah blah blah. It is usually actions or mindsets that are the causations of laws. Yes laws are road blocks but they are past tense. We can only change the future, not the past. The point is maybe we need to more clearly identify the many road blocks we have personnaly encountered, either blatant or subtle, so we can focus on them and begin to accomplish the goal. I am really looking forward to hearing what you have to say. Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists Road Blocks to Public Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 26, 2011 |
Can you please give us some examples of Road Blocks to Public Nudity that you have EXPERIENCED? |
| Absolute Naturists Home Nudist Pontification |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 26, 2011 |
Can anybody please enlighten me on why Home Nudist (especially Life Long Home Nudists) like to pontificate on all the Joys of Nudism on groups and sites like these? I am trying to make this really clear this time. This was a part of the topic Life Long Home Nudist but I think everybody missed it. This is not a Home Nudist Bash so no need to go there. I have seen it many many times and I am perplexed so I would appreciate your thoughts. Let's try again. Please Read this carefully and several times before posting please, some of us would really like to be enlightened by your thoughts on this Topic. Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists Life Long Home Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 25, 2011 |
I have heard some Nudists describe themselves as "Life Long Home Nudists". This has always been a puzzling concept for me because isn't everybody nude in their home at one time or other. Who cares if you have your Cheerios in the nude or you sleep without Jammys. Does that make you a nudists? Further and more quizzically, these same people often pontificate on the joys of nudism in groups and sites like this with people that live nudism. Maybe Life Long Home Nudist are not really nudists, just people who are naked at home who get off talking with nudists. What do you think? |
| Nudist Communities Formation Seniors and Nude Living |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 25, 2011 |
Seniors and Nude Living....sounds wonderful... BUT, Living under one roof isn't as easy as it sounds, ESPECIALLY if you are talking about Seniors (55 and over according to McDonalds). As we get older we get more stuck in our ways, which usually don't mesh very well with everybody. Even less so with crouchty old folks (yes I can get my free coffee at McDonalds now). However, there is an easy solution to your quest. Find a 55+ Nudist/Clothing Optional Resort/Campground, get yourself a nice trailer/mobile home and live there VERY Reasonably (Really CHEAP). Usually for much less than the cost of Apt. rent. You can find them all over the country. I live in these nudist parks in two different states and (1) it satisfys the nude living element and (2) gives us lots of extra money to play and enjoy life... even on a fixed income. If you look up AANR resort locations you can find them in almost any state. Think About it, Check it out. |
| Absolute Naturists 3 Most FUN Outdoor Things to do Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 25, 2011 |
From Your Experience, tell us what you think are the Three(3)Most FUN Things to do Outdoors when You are Nude. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists Wearing Their House |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 25, 2011 |
ahhhhh..... Can we get back to the point of the topic. There are other threads, topics, and even group that deal with laws. PLEASE always try to stay on topic. Thankyou. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists Wearing Their House |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 24, 2011 |
An interesting comment was made in another topic on Absolute Naturists that got me thinking. It is referring to naturists/nudists who consider themselves "Home Nudists". The comment was: “Being nude at home is ok, just being nude in your house is good for comfort but kind of missing the point...you may be nude but you're still wearing your house as clothing”. Considering the mantra of this group ,step out of the box (house), and let's discuss the point of “wearing your house”. This is not about reasons or justifications (we probably have all heard the reasons and justifications so please spare us), it is just about the point. (Thank you Gymnostim for making this interesting observation) |
| Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 24, 2011 |
Did I hear "Like Minded"? I think this topic certainly gives a clear response to that topic... Now, before we have a Shoot-Out at the OK Corral, there are some issues/points that I, as the group owner, want to clarify. First of all, this is a place to discuss points of view on a variety of issues and subjects surrounding and related to naturism/nudism. The purpose is to learn and intellectually grow from each others perspectives and experiences. In order to achieve the full benefit of this, you must be willing to express your thoughts and experiences openly and honestly as well as remain open in your views. You must be willing to at least consider others opinions and experiences in comparison with yours. If you don't do any of this, you probably have chosen to stop growing intellectually and in essence this type of discussion forum will be of no benefit to you or others you encounter. If you really want to serve the naturist/nudist community in a positive way, this is your opportunity to be a "brick layer" and not a "brick thrower". I am neither elitist nor shallow (ah yes, nor hypocritical and insensitive... thanks FireProf) and if you have unbiasedly read things I have said you would know that . What I am is honest, real, upfront and challenging. When I post topics I carefully give them a lot of thought and consideration on how they can benefit us all, even if sometimes it is through contraversial subjects that will make some uncomfortable. They are meant to make you Think. We are not like minded, but we can and should always be respectful with each other. We can also all continue to learn from each other, if you choose to. Let's move forward. |
| Absolute Naturists Like Minded - What Does That Really Mean? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 23, 2011 |
I live in a nudst resort. These are all nudist of different levels, kinda-sorta's to harcore's. That is the ONLY common thread or Like Mindedness with the variation caveat. It is an interesting dynamic here because of location and type of residency. There are about 25% that live here year round. There about 70% that live here during the winter for about 6 months. The remainder are short term drop-ins. Now here is where it get's really screwy, they are from Eastern Canada (French Canadians), East Coasters, Heartlanders, Bible Belters, and West Coasters. As best as I can say from experience, there is absolutely NOTHING (let me repeat NOTHING) Like Minded here, even our openness with nudity. These people like to be naked... that is it. Because of this experience, I try to use the term carefully. ok, Next in line.... |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 23, 2011 |
Does anybody have a sense on how prevalent the nudist population or mindset is on the College/University campuses in Washington? Is there a Vita-Nude presence? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 23, 2011 |
What is your preferred environment for nude pleasure? Why? Any tips on places you have experienced? |
| Absolute Naturists Like Minded - What Does That Really Mean? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 23, 2011 |
The term "Like Minded" is used very frequently in the nudist community. The question is, what does that really mean? Outside of likeing or having the desire to be nude, are any of us really-really-really like minded? Does that term give a false representation of the nudist mindset? Let's talk. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 22, 2011 |
Did you read the Article in the March issue of the AANR Bulletin? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 22, 2011 |
Thanks Jamaica, at least you are awake. Maybe no concrete plans but what would you like to do this summer? Anybody else as well. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists Offended with Nudity... huh? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 22, 2011 |
FireProf... thanks for clarifying. Yes this is about Nudists that verbalize a mindset and believe that somehow their nudity is offensive...in their own minds. Not just in a nudist setting either. Seems to me that if you consider yourself a nudist and you say this, that you are still a carrying forward the taught belief the nudity is a bad thing. I think, if you really have a goal or believe yourself to be an Absolute Naurist, you must fully embrace, accept and appreciate nude living as a normal part of life. If you can't do that, you still have some soul searching to do as to where your head is at. Complete nudity should never be offensive in any way shape or form to you if you truly believe yourself to be an Absolute naturist/nudist. Be clear, I am not talking about who knocks on your door and about offending them. That is a different thread. next, Hojo.... huh? next, Gaijin... never assume. Some good thoughts being submitted, I very much appreciate your willingness to speak your mind on all the topics I post. It is what keeps us thinking and learning. |
| Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 21, 2011 |
John, if you read the bottom line in my post I said "(please understand, I am not talking about personal or health related issues)" which speaks to what you just said. I think all of us understand and respect that. What I heard Texas say addressed the flimsy excuses you often hear that have no foundation. True story, I heard a woman at our resort say that she was a diabetic and that was a reason for her health and weight issues... and then she proceeded to the cookie table and eat as many as she could (no they were not sugar free), even put some in her pockets for later. OK, what did I miss in that one. I think what the point of the post is that nudists sometimes use the Body Acceptance mantra and the belief that nudists are cool and accept everybody as they are to not take better care of their health and fitness which may open the doors for other person to do the same and in time well... hope you get the picture. Maybe yes, maybe no... that is what this discussion is for. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 21, 2011 |
MM, Men will probably not respond to you on this topic here because they are not allowed in the group... it is "Strictly For Women", says it in the header. You are welcome to re-post it in Absolute Naturists if you like. All that aside, I agree with Olivia to a large extent. The confidence level and independence level you project will determine who comes to what most men percieve as the feeding trough (single females). I guess, and I have seen them, the women who seek that overt and sexual attention from men are unfortunately laying a percieved road map for other women. My partner in my first marriage was not keen on nudity and nude recreation. I have always been comfortable with nudity and had been to nudist beaches and resorts during our marriage, by myself. After the divorce, I went as a single female by myself again. At first I got the hit-ons and invites go play afterwards, which I politely and confidently rejected and the visual word quickly got around as the guys walk away with that rejected look on their face. I wasn't mean, just direct. This posture did give me the ability to also decide who I wanted to invite conversation with, and as I opened that verbal door with a friendly hello, it was usually recieved with respect and adhered to with respect. They didn't want to step on my toes and get rejected. My belief is if you walk in like a lamb you will be the prey... walk in like the lion (lioness), the prey will be for for you to decide or not. Just my thoughts. |
| Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 21, 2011 |
Body Acceptance is one of the mantras of social nudity and in my view a very good thing. I understand it. But (ok, I am going to step in it big time) when does body acceptance give license to be grossly fat, unhealthy and not a subscriber of even minimal physical fitness. Look at the AANR Bulletin, just about every pic has someone that is VERY fat and not appering to be to physically fit. Go to any nudist resort and I am sure you will see what I am talking about. Further, how are we supposed to encouraged young people into social nudity when we are providing this type of visual and example? I am no Twiggy myself, but I at least try to keep my weight and physical fitness in check and try to live healthy and exercise regulary. I think it might help my longevity on this beautiful earth. (please understand, I am not talking about personal or health related issues) |
| Absolute Naturists Nudists Offended with Nudity... huh? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 21, 2011 |
When NUDIST's say..."I don't want to offend anyone with my nudity," what is it exactly that you think is offensive? I am perplexed... talk to us on what is offensive with your nudity...please. (thanks for the topic idea FireProf) |
| Absolute Naturists Discomfort with Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 20, 2011 |
Why does nudity make people so uncomfortable that it has to be viewed in such a negative light? One of our group members posed this question in a different thread. It is a very good subject and thought it would be well worth posing the question as a topic for specific thought and input. ok, Tell us what you think. (Thankyou Dreams2010) |
| Absolute Naturists Living Nude... Why? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 19, 2011 |
So tell me, what is So Great about Livng Nude or even wanting to live nude if the laws, churches, employers, co-workers, aquiantances, friends, family and many others out there are thinking bad things about nudity, about you for wanting to be nude, disassociating themselve with you, arresting you for being nude, and negatively talking about you. Why would you really want to go against that tide just to live nude a nature intended? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 18, 2011 |
Opening Day in the North West is May 7,2011 Big Parties going on! |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 18, 2011 |
Amazing...Earthygal and OddButterfly, thank you so much for giving us the answer to this question in a very understandable and succinct formula. Simply put, as I have read it, a woman's comfort level and acceptance is primarily about how she feels about her own body. Not about sex, hit on's, pervs, etc.. I took a quick scan through many of the other posts prior to each of yours and I didn't find anyone that nailed like you both have. See how important it is to have a woman's perspective. I am no little bitty myself and I hear you both. I think underlying this is also our confidence level, something women seem to have a problems with for a variety of reasons. Let me just say simply how I deal with all that..I Don't Care and I say... y'all can just KMA because I am happy and that is all that is really important.A little bold but it works for me. Now all we got to do is figure out how to get these three messages out to the other women. Maybe we should invite them here to read what we say. What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists How To: Talk Nude Quietly |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 16, 2011 |
Let's All Talk NUDE Quietly and Begin to Change the World! A couple of threads here on Absolute Naturist have provided some BRILLIANT suggestons in opening nude discussions. Read: Quest for Nude Living & T-Shirt Slogan Contest. Apparel and other items with fun nudist/naturist related slogans are a PERFECT way to talk nude with non-nudists or closeted nudists. Do you agree/disagree? Do you have the Kahones (sp? you know what I am talking about)to wear a t-shirt or cap like this around friends and neighbors or in public? Experiences and thoughts please? Can you make a pledge to do it at least once in the next month and give us an account of your experiencs and reactions? |
| Absolute Naturists A Quest for Nude Living |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2011 |
Cudo's to you John for stepping out. EVERYBODY... this is how change begins! At least people will be thinking about it now and the channel is open to more discussion poolside. Keep up the good fight! |
| Absolute Naturists We need Nudist back at San Onofre |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 13, 2011 |
Nilo, with all the news and publicity about changes at San Onofre and ticket giving and dismissals, can you or any one else gives us a actual on the ground update about what is actually the status of the clothing optional beach? I am sure some would appreciate it. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Cruises |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2011 |
What do you think about these Nude Cruises on big cruise ships? Would you go on one -or- if you have, what experiences or thoughts can you share? |
| Absolute Naturists The Absolute Naturist (Nudist) Mindset |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 11, 2011 |
Thanks to all of you for understanding my position and supporting this clean-up. It will begin to happen shortly. OddButterfly... no worries, your thoughts and words will always be supported positively and respectfully here. We all look forward to hearing more from you.... right everybody? |
| Absolute Naturists The Absolute Naturist (Nudist) Mindset |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 10, 2011 |
I would like to bring this topic to the forefront one more time. Here is the reason. One of the requirements for being approved for addition to the group is that your profile is not blocked and you have a picture. You can read the opening post by me on the reasoning. I have reviewed the membership and have noticed a number current members that do not meet these requirements. I do not know when or how you got here but this is your notice that unless you change that to conform with this groups requirement, I am going to delete you from the group. I encourage you to do this as soon as possible. Also, I will be reviewing members who have not been active for a long period of time. You may also be removed if we don't hear from you soon. I am interested in having persons who contribute, even if only a few words now and then. There is no value in numbers only. This is a perfect medium for us all to share and learn and move forward in our nude living quests. If you never contribute, I would tend to believe you are no longer interested in the group or it's content. I hope I am clear in what I am saying. I truly believe it is in the best interest of this group and maintains the integrity of the admission requirement. If any member would like to comment, I am open to that. Thank you all for your continued support of Absolute Naturists, me as the group owner, and Nudist Clubhouse. |
| Absolute Naturists ARBY’S GOOD “NUDE” FOOD |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 7, 2011 |
I think the word nude casually spoken by, and applied to herself (especially being female), a normal everyday person that you would encounter in normal everyday life HAS GOT TO BE A GOOD THING towards the move to normalizing of nudity in society. I say way to go Arby's. Thanks for the topic Andybee! |
| Absolute Naturists Most Fun Activites while Nude |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 7, 2011 |
What do you think are the MOST FUN activites at nude clubs/resorts? |
| Nudist Communities Formation Are Nude Community Formations Now Occuring? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 7, 2011 |
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck... is it a duck? I posted a like topic in Absolute Naturist and got some interesting responses. I live in a nude community eventhough it has a resort name. Let me explain. The original owners of Natures Resort in So Texas probably viewed it as a resort where people would come and go for fun and relaxtion. Then came new owners and a change occured but the name stayed. At Natures Resort (where we live 6 months of every year and have our winter home), there are over 100 lots (60+ new lots in development) that are leased annually and many with permanent mobile homes, the majority of people live here for at least 6 months of the year, we have about 40 "residents" who live here year round. We have rooms (like hotel) that can be rented by the day, week, or month. We have RV pull throughs (like an RV Park) that can be rented by day, week or month. We have weekly scheduled meals that you can purchase and eat here (like a resturant), we have yard sales (like neighborhoods) we have mail/ups/fedX deliveries and individual utilities(like citys), we have regular ongoing community activities, we have speed limits on our roads... seems like we are a nudist community not a nudist resort. In this way, maybe they have already began. What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists Transition of Nude Resorts to Nude Communities |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 7, 2011 |
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I had this epifany the other day on this topic so I wanted to get your ideas, thanks! At Natures Resort (where we live 6 months of every year), we have over 100 lots (60 more new in development) that are leased annually and many with permanent mobile homes, the majority of people live here for at least 6 months of the year, we have about 20 who live here year round. We have rooms (like hotel) that can be rented by the day, week, or month. We have RV pull throughs that can be rented by day, week or month. We have weekly scheduled meals that you can purchase and eat here (like a resturant), we have yard sales (like neighborhoods) we have mail/ups/fedX deliveries and individual utilities(like citys), we have regular ongoing community activities, we have speed limits on our roads... seems like we are a nudist community not a nudist resort. A place, like Cap de A'gade is a township not a resort or community in my view. But how does that start? Maybe community is the egg and the town is the chicken and a resort is ... well a holiday spot. Then again, maybe I think to much. |
| Absolute Naturists Transition of Nude Resorts to Nude Communities |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 6, 2011 |
At what point can or does a nude/co resort become a nude/co community? How do you determine the difference? Your thoughts please. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 6, 2011 |
yep... signed it with my complete name, no initials or anything like that. I'm proud to be a nudist. Find me near the top. Cassandra |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 5, 2011 |
John, baytobreakers.com May 15, 2011. This year they are celebrating their 100th Year. Runners and Walkers only, no scooters. Nude side: Baretobreakers.com. They are stopping the entrant number to 50,000 total (not just nudies) this year and almost sold out, better hurry. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 4, 2011 |
onza, of whom do you speak? The only "disparaging" remarks I have ever heard are not from "real" nudists/naturists but rather from textiles, rightwing religious zealots, haters of the world, and people who are just not happy with themselves or life. Oh, oil companies too. If I have heard a comment from nudists it was more of one based on displeasure for using the Naked Sensationalism front to promote the cause and have it misconstrued as a nudist event. It really has never been a topic in my nudist circles mainly because most of those folks that participate in those events don't ever enter nudist circles. It is more like "lets get naked and do some cool body paint in public for a day" event. If that is a disparaging comment I apoligize, but in my opinion it's the truth and that is disparaging and disrespectful to nudists, misleading to the textile world, and does nothing to promote the desire to make nude living a reality. "Ever been to one?" to me is a game of one-up-manship. This I do not find positive but rather divisive, not a good quality. For the record, I have my Bare-to-Breakers Hat and 2005 B2B event participant pin tacked right on it. Does that answer your question. It was an event that is fun to do at least once in your life, been there done that... move on. B2B is the off shoot group of a historical Bay to Breakers Run that supports many good causes and charities. Bay opened and supported Bare in it's event to be supportive of those usually less than 100 of us nudists. Our entry fees and other assorted purchase monies went to the causes, just like everybody else's. We supported those charites and the event, like in the real world as the other thousands of entrants. They really did not need nudists to make it a successful event, it already was and continues to be. In fact we probably caused more of a headache for the organizers, but they were cool, I appreciate that. The Bike Ride (WNBR) is not my thing and I will not ever probably participate in it for reasons previously stated. I am sure it would be cool to some for me to have my picture taken with my bike at a WNBR event, hey even with some added body paint like most of the others. Let me just say, not going to happen because I am not about "cool", I am about real. I say just let it be, que sera sera. Without the "naked part" what would it really be anyway, just another bike ride to support a cause of which I doubt many participants really understand the true meaning of or truly believe in. Just my take. The simple fact is it needs the "naked" sensationalism, put whatever spin you want on it, to get any media attention. I would rather have my picture taken hugging a tree while nude, but I would probalably get all scraped up and junk, ugh...not good. Shall we continue the one-up-manship? I don't think that would be of benefit to anyone, but hey... I am just a nudist who walks the walk and talks the talk, and been there and done that so what do I know... right? |
| Absolute Naturists Making Nudism A Pleasurable Experience for Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 4, 2011 |
For sure for sure. Hugs to her also. We cool and She cool too... thanks. I do hope and look forward to hearing from her on AN. |
| Absolute Naturists Why was the picture changed? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 4, 2011 |
Thanks for having my BACK guys, appreciate it lots. Let me just comment on photo changes and the group. Yes I changed it. The former photo was from website called Nude-In-Public, a site that is focused on exhibition and sexuality. It has nothing to do with creating greater acceptance of nude living. If that is where your head is at, fine and good, but this is probably not the group for you nor even probably the website for you. You don't get it! If you have never visited that site, it is primarily young women walking for a block or two, usually in a foreign country, some in heels, to get reactions from those they pass by. Real life, c'mon let's get real. Have you heard the expression a picture is worth a thousand words, well in my opinion that said it all and it took us backward. A little history, when I first changed the picture, I posted a picture of a young child (backside pic of a boy I think) walking down a beach with only his beach shoes on. No genitalia or face, just a sweet image. To me that was about as pure of naturism and free from judgement as you can get. It truly represented what I felt an Absolute Naturist was in heart and soul. Unfortunately, Brian (the owner of NC) asked me to changed it because some of his credit card companies objected to any pics of persons clearly under 18 being nude. ok, I get it, it's the world we live in and the world we are trying to change. So is Brian and I appreciate that. So as not to have any other issues with photo releases, copyright infringements, age issues, etc. etc., I decided to post my own picture riding my bike, like I normally do here in Texas. It wasn't a one day staged shot, it is what I normally do...let me repeat, what I normally do. Yes it is in a gated nude resort, Natures Resort, because the world we are trying to change would arrest me if I rode nude to the grocery store to do something really sexy like get bread and milk. Let's keep it real. Lucky... hmmm. I have made Big sacrifices, not just been Lucky, to live nude as I prefer and I make scarifices and have judgement thrown at me as I continue to promote my belief that nude living is not a bad thing. I do not hide under excuses nor do I waver or shirk from my belief system like some do. I live nude in Texas, I live nude in Washington, and my husband and I have now formed a new non-landed club (nwnbc.org), sanctioned by AANR and TNS, that promotes naturism on the beautiful waters of the Pacific Northwest, and guess what... I will be nude there also (as depicted in other photos in my NC profile). I can assure you there will be pains and challenges placed towards us and our new club. But we are being responsible and doing what we can to open positive commuincation forums and paths to nude living. This is something few others do, especially those that throw stones. It's simply called putting your money where your mouth is. Luck has nothing to do with it. From time to time I will change the picture to keep things fresh just as I try to do with topics. I do know that many of you appreciate that. It shows in your support. Thanks again everybody. |
| Absolute Naturists Crossing the line |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 3, 2011 |
dbo, thank you for a very insightful summary. Let me repeat it: "My summary of this topic: I think all of us in this group want to live in a world where nudity is accepted. However, we disagree as to how to realize this goal.". At some point, I believe it is best to end a topic (subject)in order to avoid a potential degradiation of value. As the group owner, I think we may be there on this topic. Let me address why I am saying that. The original question for discusson was " When would you consider it crossing the line between nudism/naturism, and just flashing?". The summary, while not answering the question, has brought forth and articulated our real challenge. I appreciate challenging questions such as this because it makes us think on a variety of levels. It brings us to places we may not have entered without such discussions. In my opinion this topic has provided an interesting and wide array of dscussion and debate. This is good, no matter where we are in our lives. It opens discussion that challenge our belief systems, our moral value judgements, and our basic sense of right and wrong. In this sense, we are not all cut from the same cloth. It also proves a point that even though we share a common ideal or goal of social nudity acceptance, we are all individuals and we all come from different environments that shape our thoughts and actions. We have the luxury to live in a environment where we are capable of putting forth our own personal ideas to move forward towards our common goal/ideal. Yes, the simple fact is we can work together to open our minds to other viewpoints and in the process gain a greater appreciation of each other and achieve a greater focus of the challenges ahead of us. This is very good and the absolute point of a group discussion such as this. I congratulate all of you for this lively debate, your continued intestinal fortitude to put forth your words and thoughts and your continued willingness to participate in this endeavor. Lets learn from this experience, breathe from this experience, and move forward from this experience. I would appreciate a group member or members putting forth a new topic(s) based on the many points and points of view made from within this topic or from what we have learned in this process. I sincerely believe there is a lot of fertile ground upon which to do this. Please, let us all hear from you on new topics. Thank you for sharing. |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 3, 2011 |
How about starting a Women's Water Volley Ball Tournament? Here at Natures Resort (South Texas) we have a pool specially made for Volleyball. You can probably see it on the website. We have very active and fun coed games almost everyday. However very few women have participated in the past (it can get a little rough with the guys). Just this week we put together a time for women only to play. Those of us who play regularly wanted the opportunity to teach other women some basic techniques and basic rules on how to play, give them a chance in a non-competitive setting to get a feel for the fun you can have, and have some fun in the water (verses just float around and talk). It has been a great success so far and women who never played before are having fun playing,improving their skills, getting lots of good exercise, and enjoying the intertaction with other women in a different setting. We even have water fights when it gets to hot and we need some cooling down. It is fun. I would love to see all clubs or groups form Nude Women's Water Volleyball teams to compete with each other at diffferent places. What do you think? |
| Absolute Naturists Making Nudism A Pleasurable Experience for Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 3, 2011 |
I understand.... if you could just ask her her thoughts and post them yourself that would be good too. "She said...." can be a great first step to opening a dialogue. Thanks... |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Tolerant... Good or Not Good? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 2, 2011 |
Let me put my 2cents in here, not as a group owner or group moderator but rather just as a person who has encountered nude tolerant people. It is definitely negative in my books because there is significant judgement placed behind the toleration and an unwillingness to even try to learn about it or accept it. It is only tolerated for whatever reason. I know a couple where he likes to go to nudist resorts and be nude where it's ok. His wife will not be nude and openly says she is not a nudist, but will go with him to nudist places or not give him any guff for going to resort or beach. You could say she is "nude tolerant" but I would refer to her as "Nude Supportive" because she carries no judgement about it, her head is just not there. BIG DIFFERENCE in my view. |
| Nudist Communities Formation Burning Man Nudist Community This Year? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 2, 2011 |
I know you are looking for somewhere to stay but I wanted to comment on the Burning Man event or like events. I have to say, and it is also supported by an article in the TNS Mag, that Burning Man events and people are not nudists. We have an off shoot that rent the grounds in WA almost every year called Critical Mass. It is the NorthWest Burning Man event. Having experienced this first hand, while nice people for the most part, they are more into dress up, act out, do some MJ or more, promote sexual exhibition and pervision,, try to be cool, try to be free, and that is the end of the story. Many lost souls in WA for sure looking for something, which they can't articulate. By the way, it's not free... they charge a good sum to get in and participate. We local nudists folks who live on the CO grounds (LARC) are always referred to by the participants as the "naked" people... which tells me they don't get it and do not try to get it. Why would they, they are not nudists nor understand nudism/naturism. I just get a little tired of nudist thinking and saying they (BM) are open to nudism... get real, they are not! |
| Absolute Naturists Making Nudism A Pleasurable Experience for Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 2, 2011 |
I would like to hear what could help make nudity, social or private, a more pleasurable, enjoyable and positive experience for women? Ladies, this is your chance to speak your mind, so please do. Guys, really don't want to hear what YOU think specifically on this... BUT, I would appreciate you asking the women in your lives about this, let them respond for you or please submit the essence of what they have to say. ok, let's go! |
| Absolute Naturists Crossing the line |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 2, 2011 |
But then again.... there is only ONE SunBunny... so there you go. Sorry I couldn't resist. Yes, I would love to hear from more women on all the topics I post. Maybe ask the women in your lives about some of the topics and post what they have to say. That would be a good start perhaps. Until then, keep posting your thoughts, they are always interesting and thought provoking. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude Tolerant... Good or Not Good? |
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SunBunny Posted: Mar 1, 2011 |
I heard an expression the other day, Nude Tolerant, by someone talking about some members of a community group. I was wondering, if someone is "nude tolerant" is that good or bad? Any thoughts? |
| Absolute Naturists Nude with a Movie Star |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 28, 2011 |
Did anybody see my Oscar, I seem to have misplaced him.... ah geez, maybe I'm not a movie star, dang! But hey Fuzzy, you have to admit I am fun to be around... careful, you might make some of the folks here jealous, LMAO! Isn't this fun... c'mon jump in everybody. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude with a Movie Star |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 28, 2011 |
Sandra Bullock... I think we would be laughing all day at crazy stuff. She always appears to be down to earth, not all stuck on herself, and not afraid to take a shot and always be real... my kind of people. |
| Absolute Naturists Nude with a Movie Star |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 27, 2011 |
Just a fun topic... if you could hang out with any movie star for a day, the both of you just nude and casual, who would it be and why? |
| Nude Boating Where to Nude House Boat |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 27, 2011 |
Does anybody have any recommendations on the best places to go nude house boating? Experiences? Best times of the year? yada yada |
| Nude Sailing Welcome all! |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 27, 2011 |
Kerry... did you fall off your boat? Have not heard anything, had any new post or anything from you in a long time. Opening Day is coming soon. |
| Absolute Naturists Giving Ourselves Permission to Live Naturally |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 26, 2011 |
ok... I will start and put my money where my mouth is. YES I have given myself permission to live as I want to live, and that is nude and natural. If someone has a problem with that, it is their problem not mine. If a friend has a problem with that, they are not a friend. I don't make excuses or hide behind any personal fear. I have to live happy, living naturally makes me happy and feel very good about myself. |
| Absolute Naturists Giving Ourselves Permission to Live Naturally |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 26, 2011 |
The objective of this group is to live nude and natural and promote a sincere desire for everyone to live naturally as nature intended. It is difficult to promote something unless you are passionate about it and truely believe in it. I continue to hear a lot of excuses and fears, mostly personal. I am not minimizing the current legalities but those are concrete items that can be dealt with as a whole. Have you honestly given yourself permission to live naturally(nude)? |
| Absolute Naturists Nudity is Normal |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 26, 2011 |
Imagine... Nudity is no longer a taboo or illegal and considered a very acceptable and normal way of living in the world. Are you still a nudist? |
| Absolute Naturists USA Nudists vs. European Nudists re: body adornment |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 25, 2011 |
Olivia: Slow down girlfriend.... I post topics for opinions, thoughts and conversation, Not Judgement. This post is an observation only, not about trends or anything like that. What people want to do is up to them and their own personal choice and I totally respect that. More honey and less vinegar makes the world a sweeter place. I appreciate you reading AN posts and welcome you to join Absolute Naturists if you are so inclined. SB |
| Absolute Naturists USA Nudists vs. European Nudists re: body adornment |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 24, 2011 |
When I see pictures of nudists (usually on the beach)from Europen countries (or even meet them in person) verses nudists in the USA there appears to be a distinct difference in the amount of body adornment. USA nudists appear to have much more body adornment, tattoos and jewerly, as compared to Europeans who appear more natural and have minimal if any tattoos or jewerly. Any thoughts on this? Have you noticed it? What does it mean? Is it true or just a misperception? (By the way, I changed some of the original wording in this topic because I used the word "obsessed" and that is a jugemental word which was not my intention, sorry if I offended anyone by that word. SB) |
| Absolute Naturists Is there anyone you'd be embarrassed to have see you naked? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 24, 2011 |
uh... hmmmm.... ah geez....ummmmmm, Let's see.... that would be a No! Why not, because I am not ashamed of my nudity nor do I think I have to hide my beliefs from anybody. I think if you are going to live a positive and true life, you must first be true to yourself. next..... |
| Absolute Naturists Where is the MOST natural place to be nude? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 23, 2011 |
Just for fun, where do you think the MOST natural place to be nude in the world would be? |
| Absolute Naturists Would you go to a nudist resort or club if... |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 23, 2011 |
.. it was absolutely mandated that you would have to be completely nude the entire time you were there, no exceptions? (for the sake of discussion assume there are no weather issues precluding being totally nude). By the way, you are going to be there for 2 weeks straight. Go for it and be honest with your feelings. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 22, 2011 |
nude4evr: I don't really remember doing or saying that since there are so many variables involved but all I can say is nothing ventured nothing gained. Better luck next time. By the way, tell her I am not weird. |
| Absolute Naturists Best Places to Find Naturist/Nudist Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 20, 2011 |
I have personnaly heard a number of women asking the question of where or how can they go about finding out more real life information on nudist explorations from other women -AND- likewise from husbands/fathers who are seeking information to help bring the wives/daughters/families into nudism but would like to point to or have first hand words that come from naturist/nudist women and mothers. Do you have any suggestions or resources to share that can help specifically on this topic? |
| Northwest Nudists Nude Time Coming Soon |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 20, 2011 |
Wake Up Everybody! The sunshine is just around the corner and time to get rid of the clothes. Any new things in mind for this coming nudie season? |
| Absolute Naturists A Quest for Nude Living |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 20, 2011 |
Luxorsecurity asked a sincere question (thank you Lux) that I think many of us who have been around the block a time or two have forgotten or take the importance for granted. He asked: I'm still new to nudism (under one year to date) and wanting my wife an daughter to join me in living as nudists. Also, I'd like to help spread the message of social nudity among my friends and neighbors but am still unsure how to proceed... Does anybody have some suggestions or thoughts that can help with his quest for information? Hope this helps Lux. |
| Absolute Naturists Is there A Story Here? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 20, 2011 |
To better try to understand what type of topics that you may be interested in, I reviewed all the topics and posts made to this group and did a quickee statistical calc. The exercise did give me some insight and I will work on future topics to that end. BUT... I had a quizical result, at least in my mind. This has lead the my question, "Is there a Story Here?"... maybe. The two highest "viewed" topics were: Nudist Women - 4.390 views / 34 posts Nude in Public - 5,972 / 53 posts All others fell below these two topics(especially those that did not have a percievable sex connotation). Now keep in mind that any member of NC can view these topics so there are folks looking at these who may not be of our mindset or have the ability to comment. Is there a story here? Your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists The Absolute Naturist (Nudist) Mindset |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 20, 2011 |
When I say something, I try to be as clear as I possibly can. That is not always an easy task. When I write I really really try to be clear because I have do not have the luxury of inflection or tone in what I say. When I rewrote the group description, I tried to be very very clear. The current group description reads: People that understand and wish to live nude as nature intended and would like to see a more open society that views nude living and positive public nudity as a normal part of life. NOTE: Private(Blocked)profiles and no picture will be denied acceptance. I do think that is pretty clear. (you can comment on that) Yet I continue to get requests for membership to this group from people who have blocked profiles and no pictures and or both. At this time, I will deny admission to the group to these individuals because I would like this group to be a group of persons who truly believe in the description premise. (comment on this to please)That is the Absolute Naturist (nudist) Mindset. This is not a "thinking about it naturist" or "curious naturist" or a "where do I find naked chicks naturist" or what have you... it is an Absolute Naturist (nudist) group. My belief is that if we are to ever start to change how the world sees living nude as nature intended and gaining the view that public nudity can be positive, we need to quit hiding and giving it the appearance that it is a bad thing. Now that does not mean go out today and run "naked" down the street, it means that we, as individuals, should do our best to always put a positive image to nudity, either verbal or visual, with all those we encounter. Also that we truly believe that nude living is a natural and positive part of life. Tell me your thoughts please. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 19, 2011 |
Well I can easily agree with that, BUT... if we accept that premise for the purpose of discussion, what can we all do to help women overcome those teachings or fears and begin to enjoy the sunshine and fresh air all over their bodies as we do. Any thoughts? |
| Absolute Naturists I like to use the term "naked" over nude.. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 19, 2011 |
Thanks for the post ColoradoGal. In a way that is what I was trying to get around to in my post but in just a more pc Washingtonian manner. We often use the word Nekkid in a comedic fashion here in the nudist park, but we all get it. I would probably do that in any social setting where everybody gets it. However, in a setting where you have the "don't get its" or "don't want to get its" I will usually use the term nude and even refer to myself as a nudist. I think we all need to be cognizant that we have NOT won the battle for acceptance of public nudity and nude living and we should all do what we can to help make that a reality. We are the examples the Textiles will look at and LISTEN to. ok, with all that said..... let's all get Nekkid and go Jump in the Hot Tub! SB |
| Absolute Naturists So are you naked or nude? hmmmmm |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 18, 2011 |
Some say there is not a difference. I think there is. I am again not talking about a text book definition although that would probably work. How do you think people react to the word naked verses nude? |
| Absolute Naturists Would you prefer to be identified at a Naturist or a Nudist? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 13, 2011 |
I know, most of us all hate labels or boxes of identification, but there is always so much discussion between the labels of Naturist vs. Nudist. I was thinking that maybe it would be good to get a discussion on the subject. Let's talk about how you would want to be identified and why. (please do not give a textboon definition, most of us read them all). I am looking for your words as how you see yourself in this arena... simple as that. |
| Absolute Naturists Outdoor Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 13, 2011 |
Hey Roddy.... Very Good Suggestion, Thanks! |
| Absolute Naturists Outdoor Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 13, 2011 |
To: dbcsez From: SunBunny You did not misread, I was riding my bike nude and it felt GREAT! Actually going for my morning bike ride again in a few minutes (nude of course) since it is another beautiful day here in Texas. I live in a nudist community, where nudity is the norm. My pic is now the header picture for this group. The focus of this group is share ideas, thoughts and experiences into making nude living a norm everywhere, not just with 500 insane people (just funnin'). Maybe next time you do a bike ride you can have a AANR or TNS flag somewhere on your bike to help pass the message. Thanks for the contribution. hugs, SB |
| Absolute Naturists Outdoor Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 12, 2011 |
I thought about this topic today because it was a exceptionally beautiful day here in TX (high 70s) and I was riding my bike (nude of course)feeling the warm sun and fresh air all over my body and it just felt so good that I just could not even fathom the thought of being any other way except totally nude. It was insanely wonderful. I was just wondering if you ever felt like I did today. Please share. |
| Absolute Naturists Outdoor Nudity |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 12, 2011 |
Describe what it feels like to you to be nude outdoors? - and- What is your most favorite thing to do when you are nude outdoors? |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 11, 2011 |
Thanks for providing the info FireProf, appreciate it. The Naturist Society's (TNS) magazine is "N - The Magazine of Naturist Living". It is a quarterly publication. You can go to their website if you would like to get it; www.naturistsociety.com. |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 10, 2011 |
Best wishes in getting your wife to join you, I truly hope she does. Another thought in helping her get more comfortable with nudity, The Naturist Society (TNS) has a very good publication titled "N" that has real life stories on the history of nudism and life in a naturist world. It doesn't just focus on recreation which AANR tends to do more. I think "N" gives a broader perspective to nude living for all ages and genders. Check it out. The folks at TNS are really helpful and nice, call them. Appreciate you considering joining AANR too. |
| Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 10, 2011 |
There seems to be some truth to the two topics that won't die being shaving (pubic area) and erections. However I don't think it is just online that they won't die.... it is in all media. The question is Why? Back to my original hypothesis... it revolves around sex and beside the fact that sex sells it is also a societal taboo. As has been said in previous posts, maybe the subject was posted here for informational purposes and if so that is fine. We can be adult and helpful. However, I do think we should ask ourselves before we post a question of true personal preference and personal decision, what do you really hope to gain from the information received from a source of anonymity input. Think about it. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 10, 2011 |
Thanks again, I do appreciate your kind words. As you will see (or have seen), I am a pretty straight shooter and I am not shy about expressing my opinion. Equally and maybe more importantly, I respect every person's opinions and encourage them to freely express them as well. If we can keep our minds open to new thoughts, beliefs, and opinions I truly believe we can all learn and move forward in life. We have a big job ahead of us if we would like to see society be more understanding and accepting of our desire to live nude. The stronger and more knowledgeable we are the better it will be for everyone. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 10, 2011 |
Thanks! I look forward to many more topics and posts by all of you. |
| Absolute Naturists benefits of living in a naturist society vs clothing. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 10, 2011 |
I think this is a subject that is always good to keep in the priority of our thinking. SOme time back ModelMuse offered some thoughts and experiences that were right on target. I would like to requote her to start our thinking path again. Thanks MM, hope to hear from you again soon.... SB Here it is: To clarify a few things about living amongst naturists: Naturists are humans. They are no more open minded, spiritual, compassionate or non-judgmental than any other group. Some of us, myself included, walk a path of self-introspection. Whether comfortable with nudity or not, people who seek some sort of connection or truth seem to be more inclined to be patient, loving, understanding, and peaceful, because they realize that this comes from within. I live at a naturist place. I have had encounters with "naturists" here which illustrate the very worst of human interaction, such as pettiness, jealousy, lying, put-downs, judgment according to appearances, and childish tantrums intended to hurt and offend. Many people claim to be "spiritual" simply because they have read self-help books or display a huge peace sign in front of their home. Do not assume that a person is open-minded or accepting simply because they are a naturist. Naturism is simply the enjoyment of nudity. Consciousness and open-heartedness do not come with the territory of the naturist community. Selfishness and power-tripping, undue criticism and simple incompetence are just as available to the nude and clothed alike. Some people set better examples than others. I wish that this was not true. We do not need to toot our own horns in self-aggrandizing ego-stroking simply because we have the relationship with nudity that we do. Remember, people are people, good, bad and indifferent. Just like me. I happen to be an attractive, fit woman. I am not as well-liked by people who are not comfortable with their bodies, or who have darkness within that they have not addressed. Also, I have breast implants. I am very happy in my body, and have no regrets about the surgery. I was not dissatisfied with my body, I was a model before the enhancement. I did not do it for anyone but myself, but no amount of explanation will ever justify that to someone who is opposed to doing the same thing to their own body. But my body, simply by being a certain proportion, and enhanced, somehow sets me apart from "natural" people, even though they may sport tattoos, piercings, dye their hair, or modify their bodies to become the size of two to three bodies by not regulating their consumption. Since I modify my body with diet and exercise, I understand that this is a choice. Please hear that I am not criticizing people's shortcomings and the inevitable failings of humankind, that would be futile. My intention in creating this post was to bring back to reality the perspective of naturists as a group. Someone is often on the outside of a group. Even among naturists, I am on the edges because of my physical traits. Being a single woman, I can be seen as a threat by the female of a couple. Naturists are only human, beautiful, imperfect, fallible and incomplete... so let's keep things in perspective. I prefer a naturist society. I live in one. I am very happy here. But do not ever assume that a naturist is more open-minded or conscious, simply based upon their decision to shed their clothing. |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 10, 2011 |
I have to say it feels soooo good to hear all of your words of support, appreciation and understanding. I totally agree with each of you. I know that the economic situation has put a dent in the membership of these organizations but we really need to try to support those who support us in any way we can. Anybody else? |
| Absolute Naturists What brought you here? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 9, 2011 |
I would like to bring this post to the forefront again. As you may have noticed, I recently became the Owner and Moderator for Absolute Naturists. I want to continue to make this group a positive place to provide thoughts, ask questions and share experiences. Since I posted this subject a long time back, many new members have been added. I would like to ask for your input once again as to what subjects you are interested in and would be of value to you. Let's talk! |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 9, 2011 |
Let me express why I posted this subject. I had an interesing thing happen the other day when I dropped into the NC Chat. By the direction of conversation I got a feeling that most there (about a dozen or so) did not have a grasp of nudity and naturism. I posed the question if anybody there were members of AANR or TNS. Only one quickly and proudly stated he was a member of AANR. Others asked questions like in what state were those clubs or if they still had rules against admitting single males. Obviously there was a lack of nudist education/understanding or even interest in these organizations among those in the chat room that night. Needless to say I was amazed (maybe appalled is a better word) considering that this is a nudist based website that values the principles put forth by both AANR and TNS. For the record, I belong to both and think they are very important to continuing our quest for better understanding of nude recreation and nude living. |
| Absolute Naturists AANR & TNS Memberships |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 9, 2011 |
What are your thoughts on these organizations?; would you join them (if not so already)?; and/or why would you consider joining them?; Would you have a preference over one or the other? |
| Absolute Naturists What about deliveries |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 9, 2011 |
Serenity makes some good points. I think it is incumbent for every person to decide what situation is best for you. I live in adult nudist communities where everyone is nude and when textile people enter our gates they enter into our domain. In this case I believe I should not have to cover up because they are textile. I am not ashamed of my nudity in any way shape or form. This is much different than a neighborhood kid hitting a ball over your fence. I do hope that everyone takes all responses to these posts as an individual's personal opinion and not as gospel for everyone to follow. Everyone should be responsible and courteous to others no matter what. By the way, the initial question put forth in this post was "I'm curious about whether or not people dress to accept deliveries". Pizza and FedEx was an example, not children or a neighbor. Any more thoughts? |
| Absolute Naturists Crossing the line |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 9, 2011 |
I think the initial question was when do you consider it crossing the line between nudism/naturism and flashing when someone makes deliveries (ie pizza or FedEx probably). These deliveries are probably being made by adults and not small children. The subject was not about being disrepectful of those who may come to your door. Again, the correlation is between nudism/naturism and overt exhibition. I think this is a good subject for discussion since it leads to a better understanding of what nudism/naturism is all about. Can we get back to that please. |
| Nude Boating New Boating Club in the NW |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 9, 2011 |
Thanks Dox! I have been on Havasu myself, it was some years back and if I remember correctly in July... woooo was it hot, way to hot for bathing suits which was fine with us. Enjoy your nude boating there and everywhere else life takes you. If you are ever out in the NW look us up. Same for you too Captain.... |
| Absolute Naturists What about deliveries |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 8, 2011 |
and to add to that... posting a sign on your door, especially if you are female, is a public invitation to come check out the naked girl by all the passerbys. I did it many years ago as a statement of courtesy as some had recommended and I had every young buck in the apt complex knocking on my door. It really serves no purpose. |
| Absolute Naturists Crossing the line |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 8, 2011 |
If you really understand social nudity or naturism and you have really and truly experienced it for more than one day or in a social setting outside you home, I think you would find it hard to believe there is a FINE LINE between that and Flashing. Flashing is done for sexual gratification and shock factors, simple as that. I think if a FINE LINE is anywhere it is between Flashers and Pervs. Ask any true Absolute Naturist. |
| Home Nudists Any indoor activity ideas? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 8, 2011 |
Wii indoor Nude Bowling has become a hit at our resort. You can get teams together with a rotation of players so everyone can play and have fun. |
| Home Nudists Where do you go to be nude in the winter? |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 8, 2011 |
Natures Resort in South Texas. You should come and visit if you need to thaw out. We have swim pool, Volleyball pool, big hot tub, pentaque, horseshoes, shuffle board, pool tables, wii nude bowling, dances, food ... all kinds of good stuff. |
| Absolute Naturists What about deliveries |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 6, 2011 |
I accept all deliveries nude. It is a normal way of living or me and I do not do it to shock or arouse. I just appraoch it as if I was clothed, which i am but in my own skin. Just act normal, as you should. |
| Absolute Naturists Nudist Women |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 6, 2011 |
When I first posted this subject a long long time ago, I never really thought how much deep thought would be put into it by the fellas. I appreciate that. I am surprised that I have not had more women check in on the subject. Ladies, can we here from you please? Gentlemen, ask a woman that you know if she would consider (in a general sense) visiting a nudist or clothing optional resort? Why or Why not? Let us know what she says without your interpretation. Thanks for all you inputs... keep it up. |
| Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 6, 2011 |
Not to put a jab in on anybody, and I sincerely mean that, but everytime I here this subject come up in a conversation it is usually by somebody that still has not separated nudity for sexuality in their mindset. There is a continuing focus on the pubic region or better yet genitals. I live in a nudist resort... we never talk about shaving or not, it just doesn't come up and not important. I would recommend that if yo are ever in a conversation and this question comes up, answer by asking why they think it is important to ask such question. |
| Absolute Naturists does being nude ever become second nature |
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SunBunny Posted: Feb 6, 2011 |
Considering that we live nude almost 24/7... yes when you go to do something simple like go to the grocery stote for milk and bread I find that I have to catch myself and say, dang I don't have anything on hmmm do I have to put clothes on... maybe I can just go and nobody will notice. Living full time tends to mess your head up a little bit I think, but in good way. More importnt I think it really puts in perspective just how normal nudity is and how clothes really affect the bias of society and human interaction. |
| Canada is Nude New Boating Club |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 29, 2011 |
Wanted to take the opportunity to let you all know about a new non-landed AANR, AANR-WC and TNS affiliated boating club in the Northwest. It is the NorthWest Naturist Boating Club. Jack and I created this club to promote more opportunities for nudists/naturists to get together on the waters,get some sun on the buns and have fun. We will be cruising the western Canadian waters as well so we hope that many of our Western canadian friends will join us. Check out the website and tell me what you think. it is www.nwnbc.org |
| Nude Sailing Wanna go Boating? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 29, 2011 |
Wanted to take the opportunity to invite you all to our new non-landed AANR and TNS affiliated boating club in the Northwest. It is the NorthWest Naturist Boating Club. Jack and I created this club to promote more opportunities for nudists/naturists to get together on the waters,get some sun on the buns and have fun. Check out the website and tell me what you think. it is www.nwnbc.org |
| Nude Boating New Boating Club in the NW |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 29, 2011 |
Wanted to take the opportunity to let you all know about a new non-landed AANR and TNS affiliated boating club in the Northwest. It is the NorthWest Naturist Boating Club. Jack and I created this club to promote more opportunities for nudists/naturists to get together on the waters,get some sun on the buns and have fun. Check out the website and tell me what you think. it is www.nwnbc.org |
| Northwest Nudists New Boating Club |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 29, 2011 |
I wanted you all to be the first few to know that it is now official, the NorthWest Naturist Boating Club is the first new AANR club of 2011. Jack and I are the owners of this new club.Check out our website and tell me what you think? go to nwnbc.org |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 26, 2011 |
Hi Drea, What everyone has said has so much truth to it. Trust me, been there, done that, seen that... I know. I have "busted" a few on here too. It's cool, they should not be here. I won't repeat all the other's words again but whatever you do or however you proceed... always run your own life. Don't let others run your life. In the end, it's really about you and what makes you happy and feel good about yourself. |
| Northwest Nudists Best NW Landed Club for Familes With Kids? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 18, 2011 |
Hey Jamaica, yes it can get peopled alot on the weekends, but it is spread out enough you won't know. Most folks there are still working so weekdays is VERY quiet and the activities are always based on weekends. Try it, it might work for you. The people there are really nice and friendly. |
| Northwest Nudists Best NW Landed Club for Familes With Kids? |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 9, 2011 |
LARC is very kid/family friendly... but not much to do for kids. We have had impromptu lawn baseball abd coconut bowling at times. July probably best for that. |
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SunBunny Posted: Jan 3, 2011 |
Tell us what your thoughts and plans are for this coming year regarding nude recreation. Are you planning on visiting any new resorts, getting more sun on the buns, getting to know more like minded people? What's on your menu? |
| Nudist Communities Formation Living Nude 24/7 |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 26, 2010 |
I think the term is "intelligent nudity" which basically means if the weather is freezing keep warm or if it's blazing cover up and don't get fried. Like today in Texas, it is a little chilly so I slipped on a sweater and went out for a walk. That's it, just a sweater. I do have to say that it really feels good to get rained on when you are completely nude and natural... forget the umbrella. |
| Nudist Communities Formation Living Nude 24/7 |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 25, 2010 |
Kamodo, don't ever loose the Dream. We need people like yourself to change the world to our way of thinking. It is a good thing, but you know that. Anybody else out there would like to join the nudist life dream team? Let me know... |
| Music First and most memorable gigs. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 20, 2010 |
Rolling Stones was the headliner, opening band was the Lady Bugs, next The Byrds then the Rolling Stones came in the stadium in an armored car and jumped on stage. The finished with "Last Time" before fans rushed the stage and they left in the armored car. This was in Fresno,Ca Radcliff Stadium circa 1964. I was 12 year old. It was very cool. |
| Nature Lovers What's your favorite or most memorable vista you've seen ever seen? |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 7, 2010 |
The Gulf Islands in Canada. We cruise in our boat there every year and it is always just incredibly beautiful everywhere you turn... morning, noon and night. One of my pics is there on our sailboat. |
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SunBunny Posted: Dec 3, 2010 |
We spend our Winters in South Texas where it is usually in the 70's to 80's all winter. Back in WA it is freezing, snowing, raining and just plain not nudy weather. I am not a cold weather person. |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 28, 2010 |
We have talked a little about what type of communities we would be interested in BUT... How do we begin to make them more of a reality? Your thoughts please for beginning the dialoge with persons of like minds towards making nude communities a reality. |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 24, 2010 |
Well there you go. See there is advantages to answering the door nude. I always got my pizza's delivered very quickly also. Ha! ok ok, I'll stop. |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 23, 2010 |
That is exactly the experience that I was talking about. It changes your perspective about nude living 24/7. The fantasy of it all go's away and you begin to realize how normal it really feels and, in my viepoint is. I think it gives you a better foundation to speak about nudity to those who can not imagine how a person could ever be nude with other persons around them. The pitfall is, as FireProf spoke, you begin to have difficulty having to put on clothes to do normal everyday things, like go the the grocery store. oh well... |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 23, 2010 |
Nothing, but I live in a nudist resort. BUT IF I DIDN'T... it would still be nothing, They knocked and am just being my normal self as I answer the door. The JW's would probably not stay to long. |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 21, 2010 |
If you will it to be a fantasy it will be. Realities are determined by believers who act. "some people see things as they are and ask why, I see things that never were and ask why not". The more you believe nude living is normal, healthy and beneficial to society... the more others outside that school of thought will begin to understand it and get with the program. |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 21, 2010 |
All the time. What can I say. I hope that some of you here can someday find out how good it feels not to have to think about clothes or walking out your front door totally nude and having the sun and air caress your body as nature intended. If you are ever able, I would encourage all of you to spend a few days at a Nudist resort or park and get a feel for it. |
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SunBunny Posted: Nov 21, 2010 |
Maybe a little sideways on the subject since I live in a nudist park in TX during the winter and a nudist park in the summer so I am nude almost all the time, but in this park we have persons from the local area come in to do work on some of the properties. They are not nudists. Many of the residents in our park tend to cover up when the workers are here. I am of the opposite thought, they are in my yard now so I (and they) play by my rules. I am completely nude around them and I don't care. I am not ashamed of it. It is my trueself. When I have to play in their yard I have to play by their rules, right... so there you go. |
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