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Nude Massage Draping
barefreedom Posted: May 11, 2013	I started going to a massage place nearby. I explained that I am more relaxed without them continually arranging the towel as they work. I asked if it isn't a problem would they not use the towel. They were fine with it. I was more relaxed and there massage improved being able to do long smooth strokes on legs and glutes without replacing the towel. It helped getting them to agree knowing I'm a massage instructor. If you are interested in the drape debate between therapists and how most of it is myths perpetuated;http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/draping-versus-no-draping?id=2887274%3ATopic%3A102187&page=14#comments
Pacific Specific Chinese Naturism
barefreedom Posted: May 11, 2013	In a country with more than 1.3 billion people, it is not easy to find a public space that is naturally secluded. Wherever you go, you are likely to run into someone who is not ready to accept social nudity, or worse, who is prone to interpret such acts as hooliganism, a vague term in China that may encompass anything from sexual harassment to graffiti. According to Fang Gang, an expert on sex and gender issues, it is impossible to estimate the number of naturists in China, but he speculates the potential is massive. "Anyone who went skinny-dipping while on an overseas excursion is basically a naturist," he says. Likewise, nobody knows how many naturist groups China has because none has been officially registered. http://www.i-naked.info/blog/index.php?id=7881699688674756086 http://www.i-naked.info/blog/files/001ec9790963121eca042d.jpg
Absolute Naturists Clothing at Nudist Clubs... Is there a problem?
barefreedom Posted: May 9, 2013	TxBiker, I think it is sad that the restaurant and market mistakenly enforce a law that does not exist. The health law only applies to employees not customers. Don't really understand why they often do this.
Absolute Naturists Clothing at Nudist Clubs... Is there a problem?
barefreedom Posted: May 9, 2013	OldFrog, I think you bring up some good points. Personally I think it should be about having choice, rather than must either way. But without guidelines a club could easily become dominated by gawking textiles. In public it is different. It should be what one chooses, even if I'm the only one on the street naked.
Absolute Naturists Is the Textile World more sexualized than the Nudist World?
barefreedom Posted: May 4, 2013	I would say yes. And beyond the simple answer I believe that many industries have billions of dollars in interest to maintain the sexualization of a textile world.
Absolute Naturists Clothes=Oppression?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 28, 2013	Antinudity laws and culture is oppressive in the limitation of ones freedom. Clothes alone are only oppressive because they don't let the breeze play over your body.For safety and weather protection our pelts are insufficient.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Should TopFree be a legal in Washington State?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 20, 2013	Agree, we must not only resist the whittling away but make gains or there is little hope.
Absolute Naturists Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 20, 2013	Very well stated SunBunny. The question is complex especially if the venues are primarily kept behind walls for nudists only. Participating in public events like The World Naked Bike Ride or Bare to Breakers gives the message that nudity in public can be acceptable. I hope we will see more such events. I do think we should be pushing the envelope and get people use to the body in public by going out in as little as the law allows. We are so worried about upsetting others that we become compliant.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists Should TopFree be a legal in Washington State?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 20, 2013	Yes,definitely. That there needs to be a law is shameful. But considering attitudes and legal misinterpretation, a law is needed to protect our freedom.
Absolute Naturists Would the world be a better place if nudity was a human right and allowed ?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 18, 2013	Yes, I believe so. People would be less critical, less fashion conscious, but mostly people would be more confident of themselves. Besides where would a thug hide a weapon?
Absolute Naturists How Open Are You About Being an Absolute Naturist?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 18, 2013	I am open about it so family and friends know. Coworkers found out when I posted a photo in FB of me naked in the Munich English Garden.
Music The Impending Demise Of Best Buy
barefreedom Posted: Aug 17, 2012	When so many people go to the local store to check out and choose what they want and then order online dont be surprised wjen there are no local stores.
LA Naturists clothing optional restaurants?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 7, 2012	It is a large menu chinese restaurant with some vietnamese items. Is neither acceptable?
LA Naturists clothing optional restaurants?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 6, 2012	Would either of you be bringing guests? After all we do need to show them that they can do more business nude than clothed.
Absolute Naturists Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH
barefreedom Posted: Aug 6, 2012	I agree Cheri. As an admin on a FB group i know it can be a difficult call. But when the focus is the genitalia and not the full individual or ativity it is not about nudism. I remove and ban when i think the line is crossed. Hopefully it is a comfortable place for individuals and families to post comments, links and photos.
Conservative Naturists Freedom Died Yesterday
barefreedom Posted: Aug 5, 2012	Hopefully during his second term we will have a real change in how healthcare is done, with support of alternative medicine and prevention. Not only about who can afford it. As for who will be pardoned at the end of his secoind term, i hope he will have the guts to pardon Leonard Peltier.
Conservative Naturists Freedom Died Yesterday
barefreedom Posted: Aug 5, 2012	Hopefully during his second term we will have a real change in how healthcare is done, with support of alternative medicine and prevention. Not only about who can afford it. As for who will be pardoned at the end of his secoind term, i hope he will have the guts to pardon Leonard Peltier.
LA Naturists clothing optional restaurants?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 5, 2012	Seems nobody is interested in a place for naked dining. I found a real nice Chinese/Vietnamese restaurant with slow evenings. Even just to talk over the cheesecake or fried bananas. Perhaps booking 5pm to 10pm. Seems a good meetup for a SFV naturist group. If there is serious interest i would start talking with the owner. Parking is on the street so the easiest way would be to drive over wearing towel wraps and then use it to cover the chair.
Absolute Naturists When you just have to cover up in a nudist setting
barefreedom Posted: Aug 1, 2012	I think the way she used her t-shirt is simply sensible. I sometimes put my towel wrap around my neck like a cape to shield my shoulders from the sun.
LA Naturists clothing optional restaurants?
barefreedom Posted: Jul 30, 2012	It seems that if we organized all the san fernando valley members here and on fb it might be possible to find a restaurant that would try a nude dining night on the slowest day of the week. Only problem would be finding a place everyone likes. One with secluded parking so you can leave your clothes in the car and walk in nude so you dont have to bother undressing inside. Any suggestions? Anyone own or work at a restaurant?
Absolute Naturists Does Being a Nudist Take the Thrill Out of Life?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 14, 2012	Absolutely not. When I can take off the clothes it is like removing the repression of society. If I was always bare I think life would feel a little better all the time.
Absolute Naturists Naked Shopper in New York
barefreedom Posted: May 20, 2012	That would depend on whether or not public nudity alone is a crime in New York
Nudist Clubhouse Events More NCH ideas
barefreedom Posted: May 19, 2012	If there are a few members in an area why not form teams local races/bike rides/volley ball/etc? As a group we could even support our runners/bikers/whatever for charity. Every year I do chair massage for Lupus Research Walk. An NCH team would be nice to do and win many friends to nudism. There are nude bike rides in several cities this summer which we could get teams together for. Getting out in the general community would reduce fear/confusion over nudism.
Absolute Naturists New Facebook group
barefreedom Posted: May 19, 2012	We all have many choices to make captainwillie. May they work well for each of us.
Absolute Naturists New Facebook group
barefreedom Posted: May 19, 2012	Nude photos are now allowed on facebook but they must be tasteful and you must have the rights to the photo or it must be in public domain. Since the group is open all your friends (or however you have your privacy set)will see the photo. Genitals don't need to be exposed to see a person is nude. So withtin this context post your photos and it will be decided if they can be left up.
Naturists Conservancy North Wood Conservancy
barefreedom Posted: May 19, 2012	The North Wood Conservancy is in need of support. While they are hoping for commitments of $10/month I am sure they would be happy to receive any donation. Until the property purchase is paid off they need to meet the payments. If you donate don't forget to let them know you want the full property to be clothing optional. http://www.northwoodsconservancy.org/NWC/Join_Us.html
Absolute Naturists New Facebook group
barefreedom Posted: May 19, 2012	Well it isn't for everyone. Nor is anything else suitable for everyone. But as of today we have 543 members from various countries. It is open so even if you don't want to join you can read.
Just for fun Would you rather....
barefreedom Posted: May 17, 2012	mfhy2k, how about a good protective apron with goggles? Sometimes we should wear only what is needed rather than the whole getup. This should be part of the nudist mind set. Like only wearing shoes and socks when you are running a race and that is all you need.
Absolute Naturists Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues
barefreedom Posted: May 14, 2012	Disfigurement might be more accurate than mutilation in most cases. but one persons tomahto is another's tometo. People differ on how they see this. That's why we are having this discussion isn't it?
Absolute Naturists New Facebook group
barefreedom Posted: May 12, 2012	There is another group on facebook and this time it is an open naturist's group. Female moderators are needed. Any of our ladies interested in signing up? https://www.facebook.com/groups/203964593056401/
Conservative Naturists IN HIS OWN WORDS …
barefreedom Posted: May 10, 2012	It all depends where you live at this point. Many states are seeing the up turn. California was hit hard but my business and others are seeing improvement. So I would have to say No, but we are climbing back. I opened my business Feb 2007 when the recession was announced. For two years it has been a steady climb.
Absolute Naturists Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues
barefreedom Posted: May 2, 2012	A cock ring is not really jewelry, it is for sustaining an erection. As to actual jewelry, while I don't care for it, I don't think it should be prohibited. So many people today have it and some is not removable having been fused at the tattoo shop. Some penis rings are part of plastic surgery to alter the penis (sometimes splitting in two). While I think it is repulsive at the extremes, I am not sure that alone should exclude anyone. After all I don't have to look there while talking to them. I find facial jewelry much harder to maintain a conversation with.
Absolute Naturists Born a nudist or made a nudist?
barefreedom Posted: May 2, 2012	Born a nudist like everyone else. Unfortunately we are then put in a diaper and perversion begins.
Nudist News Fawlty Towers Motel going nude
barefreedom Posted: May 1, 2012	http://www.wtsp.com/news/florida/article/253103/19/Motel-hopes-nudism-pays-off "COCOA BEACH, Florida (FL Today) -- Dozens of empty lounge chairs dotted the kidney bean-shaped pool in the courtyard of Fawlty Towers Motel on Thursday, a problem that owner Paul Hodge said has only gotten worse as time passes. But his solution to get bottoms - albeit bare ones - in his chairs and hotel rooms, has some in Cocoa Beach raising their eyebrows. Starting Tuesday, Fawlty Towers turns into a nudist resort. "It's just a niche in the market. There's no competition in 100 miles," Hodges said."
Home Nudists I've got a conflict ...
barefreedom Posted: May 1, 2012	Yes, definitely walk around. I always go to the area near the kitchen to do stretches. It really helps with lyphodema. Also avoid inflammatory foods which worsen the effect. You can check foods you eat here http://nutritiondata.self.com. Also get lymphatic massage which helps with lymphodema and rheumatism (another possibility). Rheumatism often reacts to foods and the pressure changes when flying. I have gotten several people with these conditions back to flying after they gave up because of swelling and pain. Lymphatic massage has benefited them along with exercise and diet. https://www.facebook.com/groups/321143941366/
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts New Clothing Optional B&B Coming to SoCal
barefreedom Posted: May 1, 2012	Wow! Sounds great to have one in this area. Please post the website if they have one or when they do it. Now if we just didn't have to encase ourselves to leave the premises.
Nudist News Nude in Canada
barefreedom Posted: Apr 20, 2012	http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/canada/110809/naturist-canadian-ban-public-nudity-naked
Family Nudists Summer Camp for Kids
barefreedom Posted: Apr 17, 2012	Is the article available online? I'd like to post it elsewhere if it is.
Nudist News Retiring to nature
barefreedom Posted: Apr 17, 2012	http://news.yahoo.com/japanese-island-man-lives-naked-hermit-115603517.html
Absolute Naturists What is Nudist Weather?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 17, 2012	It was a warm winter and only had a few days that required pants and shirt after getting out of bed. Usually that means 60s or above and enough sun to warm my skin. Expecting a hot summer. It was 84 yesterday.
Absolute Naturists Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues
barefreedom Posted: Apr 17, 2012	Agree with the above statements. I don't like either myself but my preference shouldn't decide who can attend. It is personal choice and shouldn't be a determining factor of participation.
Nudist News Nude is not Lewd even in China
barefreedom Posted: Apr 5, 2012	The punishment of posting nude photos as an act of liberty in China. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/21/us-china-dissident-idUSTRE7AK0FS20111121
Absolute Naturists Why do you call yourself a Nudist or Naturist?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 1, 2012	In or out of nature I like to be nude so I call my self a nudist. Since most of that time I must be inside my apartment I do not regard it as compatible with nature. When I have no clothes I am naked, which should be as acceptable as when I have clothes on. It should be more acceptable than putting on a disguise of shirt, pants, shoes and jacket. L don't like the feel of hiding something and conforming so why must I?
Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 31, 2012	There is little relationship between a home and a business for profit. Even in the case of your home law creates limits (see what happens if you deny access to police with a warrant). Business is limited by law in how and who is refused service. Also in the pay for employes, break times, signage and so many things that were once a business owner's "right".
Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 31, 2012	Does a nudist resort have the right to establish their own rules/policies of operation? Not in violation of anti discrimination laws at federal, state, and local levels. This is going to court because of a specific California state law. The court decision may alter nude activity in California as well as exclusivity of events by adults. Obviously this is an attention getting attempt. Perhaps even someone trying to make social nudism more difficult to practice. The court room defense argument will certainly be interesting to read.
Home Nudists Home Nudism
barefreedom Posted: Mar 30, 2012	From the profile residence is MA and unless I missed something the most that could happen is a $150 dollar fine for the first offense unless lewd conduct was invoked and nudity is not lewdity.
Home Nudists Home Nudism
barefreedom Posted: Mar 30, 2012	BareBottomBoy, let in the light and open the drapes. You can always close them if there is a complaint. I haven't closed mine in the 8 years I've lived in this apartment complex. I am nude whenever at home and water the plants on the balcony without grabbing a coverup. No complaints from the manager yet.
Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 30, 2012	CalmNude the Resort as you say is a business and as all businesses operates under laws. The days when a business owner could do what they want ended long ago. No amount of discussion based on emotion rather than law will make any difference as this case will be precedent setting for California. It may simply end with such facilities having the right to offer its guests a child free environment or it could end up prohibiting children from being at nude events. It will depend on the legal arguments of both sides and court decision. The rights of business owners are severely limited in regards to limiting customers and employees in many ways. Probably this started in 1900 with child labor laws and put government in the workplace big time with the 1964 Civil Rights Act of which the Unruh Act is an extension of in California state law. I often find it amusing how threads turn to the emotional discussion steering far from the practical.
Absolute Naturists Nudism everywhere
barefreedom Posted: Mar 29, 2012	I think it can be faster if enough people mobilized in protest or at least use their rights to the limit. How many men go without a shirt even though no state ore city has a law requiring it? How many women are topless in New York or Texas where it is legal? How often do you see nude diners in San Francisco? If the laws permitting nudity are not used, I doubt we will see it spread.
Absolute Naturists Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 29, 2012	The issue is over a California law that prohibits discrimination including for age. It is the Unruh law. Exceptions have been permitted by the courts to exclude children in an atmosphere where quiet is enforced and children would be disruptive. This is the case at Two Bunch Palms Resort which is a textile resort a few miles away. They have other rules for enforcing a quiet atmosphere. It will be very interesting to see what defense is given. Insisting that children should not be allowed at a nudist resort simply because adults are nude would end nude activities for families in California and even endanger public nudity as limited as it is. The California law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_Civil_Rights_Act
Nudist News Palm Springs Nude Resort Sues to Protect No Kids Policy
barefreedom Posted: Mar 26, 2012	My favorite hot spring resort is nearby there. It is also adults only http://www.twobunchpalms.com/traditions.htm. This is allowed because under the Unruh Act it is allowed to restrict if children are likely to disturb the quiet atmosphere being created and where their presence would be disruptive. I would hate to think that the presence of children is disruptive of being nude. Two Bunch Palms restricts the places that you can be nude to room, sun deck at the mud bath, and sun bins. It is my disappointment that I must wear the provided robe to go to the spring and restaurant. I am nude while at the room and sunning on the semi private/private patios.
Nudist News Palm Springs Nude Resort Sues to Protect No Kids Policy
barefreedom Posted: Mar 26, 2012	For those not from California or not familiar with the Unruh Act: http://www.imakenews.com/lmohrfeld/Civil_Rights_Act.pdf It may be a difficult case and not sure what the basis would be for either side but proving that child safety can not be guaranteed in a nudist venue would work against social nudism. Simply creating unease in guests because children are present is also not a reason in my opinion to restrict. Indeed it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally I have known people disappointed they could not stay with their children while traveling. http://www.desertsunresort.com/the-experience the adult only policy is given here.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy Organinc and Natural beyond food
barefreedom Posted: Mar 25, 2012	Jim, I am a bodyworker and certified massage therapist. Also a level II certified Aromatherapist. I do therapeutic massage and today I am booked solid from 10am to 7pm. I treat whole families from newborns to the elderly. Usually they find me from referral or internet search when everything else fails them. But from then on they come to me with their children, friends, and families.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy Organinc and Natural beyond food
barefreedom Posted: Mar 25, 2012	Jim, has she tried wintergreen essential oil? It is a natural antihistamine and also dilates breathing passages. I put 5 drops in half an ounce of jojoba oil then dip a q-tip in it. The q-tip is wiped in the nose. My allergy clients love it. First she should just sniff it to see if she has any reaction to it. Because we are exposed to so many chemicals in our food and the air through pollution and adulteration our bodies have become over sensitized. Dan
Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty
barefreedom Posted: Mar 12, 2012	I agree Hoya. But that is, I believe, the reason it doesn't happen. Between the fashion world and religion they need cover up to maintain their business. Body acceptance would effect the plastic surgery industry. Lots of money to be lost and fear of finding out nudity is not lewdity with no monetary gain in exchange. Hopefully someday they will realize it is they who put the lewd in nude and not nudists.
Blacks Beach Best trail in LaJolla
barefreedom Posted: Mar 12, 2012	http://lajolla.patch.com/articles/torrey-pines-state-natural-reserve-named-best-trail-in-la-jolla "Geoff Bujkovsky The trail I maintain down to Blacks came in 2nd place. This trail is maintained by nudists with no money and is in competition with the state. Gotta love it.!" Those of us visiting Blacks Beach love it and the work Geoff does. Facebook group Friends of Blacks Beach https://www.facebook.com/groups/55003532501/
Absolute Naturists Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 10, 2012	Arizona state law seems reasonable but how has it worked in practice? http://desertsunnaturists.org/content/legal.php
Absolute Naturists Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 10, 2012	C-OHome what is the State law on nudity and locally where you live?
Just for fun Would you rather....
barefreedom Posted: Mar 9, 2012	Let me know when they start it so I can come in to shop.
Nudist News WANDERLUST
barefreedom Posted: Mar 8, 2012	Movies and TV are what they think sells with little regard for truth or the lifestyles they damage. Massage Therapists are all upset about The Client List but it is titillation for the masses selling entertainment and everyone goes on doing what they do in spite of it.
Just for fun Would you rather....
barefreedom Posted: Mar 8, 2012	AZofnow what an opportunity. Since you would be nude in retail customers should have the choice. Perhaps a locker bank could be set up at the entrance to allow choice. A sign posted; "Feel free to shop, deposit your clothes and boundaries here".
Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 6, 2012	MiLinda, it seems the guys worry that anything might turn them on. Even sweaty BO. I've found the comments quite interesting coming from nudists.
Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 6, 2012	Not art but exercise. Would you think it is right to let your son gawk at a women's pilate class? This thread only shows that nudists are only different from the general public as they are the ones without clothes. In my opinion it also shows why getting youth to the clubs is challenging. Pole exercise classes are mostly joined by younger women. Friends 20s & 30s mostly are the ones I hear trying it. So it is not the profile I see for most clubs.
Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 4, 2012	ChristopherM perhaps it depends where you live in the country. Out here many of my female friends have given up the belly dance craze for the pole dance craze. Some did it only because their gym set up poles on the floor where they use to belly dance. Most say it is quite a workout and fun. I also wonder if this links to the thread on youth joining resorts. Perhaps resorts are too slow to swing with the trends that youth goes for in droves and then discards for the next.
Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 2, 2012	Here is a typical class. They have rapidly increased in popularity the past two years and poles for home with exercise DVD are also getting popular. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIVaKKZ-tc&feature=related
Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 2, 2012	Interesting how people here think what is now offered at many gyms for women is too sexually oriented for a nude resort activity. Also that women should not engage in nude activity that might arouse males. What happened to equality and acceptance? In other threads it has been repeatedly stated that men do not often have erections while engaged in social nudism. Does that exclude coed exercise classes. Are the limited erections because women must be descrete at all times? I am a bit surprised.
Absolute Naturists Qualified Body Painters Wanted
barefreedom Posted: Mar 2, 2012	Bodypainting can be fine art using the human body as the canvas or just fun like finger painting usually is. I like it when it is fine art. My favorite to date: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wUXr0fR5jg http://netkushi.com/2010/is-it-a-girl-or-a-tiger Some more http://enlightenedmale2000.com/2010/08/30/body-paint-a-decorative-second-skin/aaa4-732/ http://www.secondskinimages.com/bodypaintimages.htm http://www.designyourway.net/blog/inspiration/the-art-of-body-painting-and-best-63-examples/ http://www.seren.net/random_images/humans/imagepages/image1.html
Absolute Naturists Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 1, 2012	Since it has become a fun mainstream form of exercise why would it not be ok strictly in an exercise context?
you're friends aren't nudists?! How do you let on that you are a nudist ?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 1, 2012	Also hoping it is an even better situation than before. Change brings risks as what it opens is unknown but it can be getting better.
Absolute Naturists What is a Social Nudist?
barefreedom Posted: Feb 23, 2012	No that is a fraternity pledge.
Nude Massage Massaging for MS clients.
barefreedom Posted: Feb 23, 2012	You might be interested in my teacher's results with MD & MS. http://www.self-healing.org/ self therapy exercises, if they can't walk crawl. Use ice when painful or cold shower. Massage deeply with aggressive oscillations.
Absolute Naturists What is a Social Nudist?
barefreedom Posted: Feb 23, 2012	Agree with you Jim. Anyone socializing while nude. Engaging in activity with others while nude.
Nudist Individuals Your Choosen Naturist living destination.
barefreedom Posted: Feb 23, 2012	Under those circumstances I would keep my apartment as a home base. When there I would no longer have the nuisance of putting on shorts to go get the mail, use the jacuzzi, or go out in the neighborhood. From this home base I would travel the world. Only in need of sandals for my feet and a pancho for the cooler times. The airport security would see I have nothing to hide and nowhere to hide it, lol.
Absolute Naturists search results for your name reveal that your a nudist
barefreedom Posted: Feb 18, 2012	Interesting, NCH really ranks high in searches. With all my online presence, the post I made here identifying myself came up in the second page simply searching my name and city. Of course in recognition of commercialization of search engines almost all other results on the first 3 pages were ads for background checks. If you want to locate someone you have to pay a third party. I wonder if we could sue in court and collect a percentage.
Nudist News How do you react to this?
barefreedom Posted: Feb 16, 2012	It appears it was a simple photo being nude and only one report called it lewd. I found that upsetting that nudity would automatically linked with nudity. That this should have resulted in resigning I find appalling. I have nude photos on my fb from Blacks Beach and Munich but carefully not so revealing. I've only had one criticism, my sister. In my opinion making such an outcry only sexualizes nudity. The police didn't press charges recognizing that it was an accident but the man is out a job and may be unable to get a similar one. Much to do about nothing. Have a good nude day.
Absolute Naturists Promoting Naturist / Nudist Living
barefreedom Posted: Feb 15, 2012	I would think that if nudist groups rented available locations for activities such as restaurant rooms, bowling allies, horse riding places, park grounds, and other places that it would increase the available nude activities, promote the lifestyle and bring us out from gated communities. A nude museum tour or nude horse shoe contest at a park would be interesting. Remember waivers can be applied for if a good defense can be made for one time events. Perhaps this will open the door as more events come to public attention and until nudity in some public places is no longer banned. Continual nudging with small local events can help in my opinion. It would also be fun. There have been bowling events posted, wish one was nearby. Restaurant meetings are posted but clothed. In this economy use patronage to be allowed to use a separate dining room nude or at a small place arrange for private use for a couple of hours. I would love one day to walk up to a restaurant and see posted "Nude Dining Party, Enter if you are not offended".
Nudist News How do you react to this?
barefreedom Posted: Feb 14, 2012	http://www.wmtw.com/r/30446033/detail.html Coach Resigns After Naked Picture Appears On Facebook Lost career preferring to resign rather than fight. What do you think of this whole thing? "SOUTH PARIS, Maine -- The Oxford Hills School District’s football coach resigned on Monday morning amid the uproar that was created when he accidentally posted a naked picture of himself on his Facebook page last week, according to Superintendent Rick Colpitts. Colpitts confirms that the district has accepted Paul Withee’s resignation....." As presented on yahoo http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/maine-football-coach-resigns-accidentally-posting-naked-photo-233913817.html "The lewd photo was viewable by the general public and was recognized by a parent of a player on his football team, leading to the coach's self-imposed departure...."
Nudist Legal Discussions Nudity on Beaches Banned
barefreedom Posted: Feb 11, 2012	The news keeps referring to frisbee. It is just one of the "safety" issues banned along with nudity on L.A. County beaches. But now they say the bans are only during peak season Memorial Day to Labor Day. The rest of the year it wont be enforced. Can we bet they won't be as lenient on the extremely dangerous act of being nude?
Nudist Legal Discussions Nudity on Beaches Banned
barefreedom Posted: Feb 9, 2012	The County of Los Angeles has increased fines and restated banned activities on beaches. "Other activities which are banned on LA County Beaches include; smoking, any tent or canopy over 10′ x 10′, loud or unusual music and/or noise, profane language, alcoholic beverages, intoxicated people, product sales of any kind, fires, nudity..." Violation will result in $1000 fine. Permits can be obtained by special permission for event activities that are otherwise banned. Should we try to get a Beach Party in the Buff permit?
Absolute Naturists Defining The AN group Intent
barefreedom Posted: Feb 8, 2012	I interpret "For people that want to be and live nude." as meaning people sharing examples and ideas for expanding our nude time and activities. Having an ultimate goal of being able to live most of our time nude.
Absolute Naturists Defining The AN group Intent
barefreedom Posted: Feb 7, 2012	Maximizing my nude time to the most I find reasonable. It also means to me searching for more nude activity times with the goal of becoming a 24/7 naked person or as close as I can. This has meant gardening nude when I had a house, enjoying the CO beaches, lying nude in the English Garden of Munich, and enjoying the relaxation of the traditional Korean Spas. I would like to go for a hike or camp nude. As for resorts/clubs I am just not the sort that thinks they would enjoy it. A nude cruise perhaps. Participate in a Tunick photo, that sounds interesting.
Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity
barefreedom Posted: Feb 6, 2012	Interesting how even nudists may equate wearing clothing as respect for others. Respect is something you feel a force like shame which I don't see as related to clothing. It anticipates another persons reaction. In the hypothetical of a funeral why assume clothing is part of respect. It is a ceremony of a death yet even naturists here react that they show respect by wearing clothes. It is hypothetical and yet the idea brings out emotions. I am careful not to offend and I don't want to do illegal activities that might endanger or require board hearings to retain my massage license. But it is a long way between declaring you would if you could and I do. By making it clear to those around you that you are a nudist and would if you could you make them reconsider nudism. Since I have been out spoken about my preference and ask others to join me (for example going to Blacks Beach)I find more and more acceptance of this from people whom I associate with. Also I have found more people who will help me drive to the beach and are curious about the environment for the spring. As for the funeral I answered "why not". Why shouldn't you go naked? If others know you are a nudist and invite you, what would be wrong in asking is clothing required? I hope for a day that can be asked without offense just as asking "is it formal or casual".
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Feb 3, 2012	Thank you, I'll search for the thread.
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Feb 3, 2012	No comments regarding the San Francisco race? Do you share such information on facebook? My wall post on the race had no likes or comments. But my fb friends know I prefer to be naked and many do give supportive comments. Even the Blacks Beach page only got 1 like and 1 comment regarding the race. Those who join the Blacks Beach group can find me with my name; Daniel Cohen.
Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity
barefreedom Posted: Feb 1, 2012	Dave that number is collected nationally and perhaps even internationally. Even for getting initiatives on a city ballot that is a small number. It wouldn't get anything on the state ballot. It may seem like a large number but it is ineffectual for elections. And if an initiative is proposed you can bet opposition will make theirs outlawing public exposure with penalties. There is risk in bringing attention to legal change. In the mean time there are places we can go and participate publicly.
Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity
barefreedom Posted: Feb 1, 2012	New_Adventurer will you be running? It looks like it could be fun. But I'll have to start hiking and get in condition for it. What a great way to enjoy the outdoors naked. http://baretobreakers.com/ And in San Francisco it is appropriately acceptable.
Nudist Individuals Being an Individual
barefreedom Posted: Feb 1, 2012	Well put Olivia, I agree. In today's society we are exposed to so much from all over the world that as we assimilate different ideas we create a culture of one. Individuality is our uniqueness. Celebrate it!
Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity
barefreedom Posted: Jan 31, 2012	@ Gaijin, why not?
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Jan 30, 2012	Here's some info on last years show http://gleneden.com/2011/04/nude-attitude-car-show-at-glen-eden-may-21/
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Jan 30, 2012	Might be a good rime to see Glen Eden and have a fun day. How many cars usually are exhibited? Are there food vendors or anything else going on during the exhibit? I am usually off work on Saturdays.
Nature Lovers Nature-lovers with a yard can create a wildlife sanctuary
barefreedom Posted: Jan 27, 2012	I had a natural garden with butterflies and a pond. It included 19 fruit trees in a small yard. Now I live in an apartment with a small balcony. Even on a balcony you can have very interesting nature. I have plants and pigeons nested here for several years. A hummingbird feeder brings 6 hummers every day. One roosted on one of my plants for 1.5 years only leaving during nesting time. Balcony and roof top gardens improve the urban environment.
Just for fun The logistics of eating naked
barefreedom Posted: Jan 25, 2012	Always naked at home so always cook and usually eat naked. I'm cleaner than clothes that were worn outdoors catching allergens, dirt, car exhaust, and etc. That is why food processors must wear lab coats to cover the dirty clothes. Actually taking it all off and taking a shower is a much more hygienic way.
Arts Nude What kind of nude art do you like?
barefreedom Posted: Jan 19, 2012	I really like the couples photos and paintings you have. Nothing says connection like a bare embrace. The bodypaintings are very amusing. Thanks for providing the links to your work.
Absolute Naturists When will the police understand it is legal?
barefreedom Posted: Jan 19, 2012	http://nudistnaturistamerica.org/wall-street-arrest Arrested for toplessness in NYC. It is legal but the cops still think they are protecting kids from the big bad ladies who show their breasts. I think they are trying to protect purient interest so the strip clubs don't lose money. Opinions?
Skinny Dippers and Chubby Dunkers Swimming Nude
barefreedom Posted: Jan 18, 2012	Dan you are very lucky. To get to Blacks Beach I have to drive 2 hours. After basking in the sun the drive back puts me to sleep if I drive alone. So my trips have been limited to when I get a friend to go with me. A warm day a few weeks ago made for a nice plunge. The water, the sun and the breeze nothing like a nude plunge in the ocean.
Conservative Naturists Famous Conservative Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Jan 14, 2012	http://www.roadandtravel.com/adventuretravel/historyofnudism.htm Interesting for history buffs. Benjamin Franklin's air baths were actually nude walks outdoors. He also had a bathtub in his living room from which he often held discussions with guests. Lyndon Johnson was known for not interrupting conversations when he needed to use the toilet, inviting those he was talking to to follow him into the bathroom to continue talking.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy Spreading the word in the Nudist Community
barefreedom Posted: Jan 13, 2012	Simplyliving, I hope you can get past the pessimism. To me it sounds like you are om the right path. Be the change you want to see because change happens within. Pushing a horses head into a trough wont make it drink. The horse must realize it needs a drink. With all the smoking ordinances now in place and the organic movements, and local farm distribution it seems to me things are moving in the right direction. Hoping for more roof top gardens. We will see.
Blacks Beach Jan 7, Saturday
barefreedom Posted: Jan 7, 2012	It was a pleasant surprise. The water was warm enough to swim. A lovely day.
Questions, Help and Support suggestion for posts link
barefreedom Posted: Jan 6, 2012	ditto what Jim said. Dan
Blacks Beach Jan 7, Saturday
barefreedom Posted: Jan 5, 2012	Anyone going to be at the beach this Saturday? They say temperatures will drop Friday but I am hoping it will still be comfortable for a picnic on the beach.
Nudist Individuals Something I came across on the site
barefreedom Posted: Jan 5, 2012	Yes single goes two ways. It is a difficult situation for policy making. One reason I like the beach.
Pacific Specific SĀMOA SWITCHES SIDES
barefreedom Posted: Dec 30, 2011	Its all artificial anyway. Certainly time change confusion will be nothing to learning to drive on the opposite side.
Absolute Naturists Anonymity and the Naturist Movement
barefreedom Posted: Dec 16, 2011	I have websites and promote my business on the internet. Anyone familiar at all with searching people can find me easily, as well as, almost every detail of my life. If you are good at searching most people here have already given enough information to find them if someone really wanted to. I provided my identity simply because I do not regard this site being about nudity creating a need for anonymity. Simply by being on the internet we accept a certain amount of being in the public domain. There is no actual assurance of privacy for anything on the www. That and even information on your computer not shared are easily hacked.
Absolute Naturists Anonymity and the Naturist Movement
barefreedom Posted: Dec 15, 2011	My thought is that I really have no need to hide. I am Daniel Cohen from Burbank, CA nice to know all of you. While openness is the goal, I also realize that there are many who have reasons to hide identity because of repercussions. Perhaps it is easier for a single male senior citizen who has shed many of the worries of youth. I am saddened that the women have to fend off unwanted attention and often feel forced to leave the site while otherwise very comfortable with nudity. We have a facebook like button for the site. What about an optional friend me on facebook for our NCH friends to click?
Absolute Naturists How To Make Public Nudity A Reality
barefreedom Posted: Dec 15, 2011	Cassandra, you certainly raise an important issue. We have many fears of exposure (no pun intended). Some are real (possible problems at work for example)but most are fears we create in our minds. In the past two years I have learned to be much more at ease with this aspect of me, being open and letting the chips fall as they may. Answers to your new thread should be interesting. Dan Cohen aka Barefreedom
Nudist Comedy Youths MOSAIC BIKINI
barefreedom Posted: Dec 15, 2011	Very thought provoking.... do the textiles get it?
Absolute Naturists How To Make Public Nudity A Reality
barefreedom Posted: Dec 14, 2011	I believe being open about your clothes free life and opinions is important to changing public opinion. Use the legal rights you have and don't hide from family and friends how you stand on clothes free options. People can get use to the idea.
Conservative Naturists ATT’N: OBAMA-VOTING TRUCK OWNERS
barefreedom Posted: Dec 14, 2011	It will be interesting to see what is come up with. It may simply be delayed if no development comes through. But, in my opinion, personal use trucks should not be an avenue to switch to in order to avoid automobile changes and costs. This did happen in the 80's when pickups became common place on city streets. I still drive my 86 Toyota p/u in preference to newer hi tech cars.
Absolute Naturists Introvert or extrovert?
barefreedom Posted: Dec 13, 2011	Labels, labels, labels and more labels..... for what?
Just for fun Would you rather....
barefreedom Posted: Dec 8, 2011	Since I am a nudist and must choose, I would want to be able to be nude at work. But if it means I have the opportunity to convert the others, I would make the sacrifice to be the only clothed one. Dreaming of the day when clothes are only donned for weather and protective needs.
Conservative Naturists Third Party
barefreedom Posted: Dec 6, 2011	Ah, but it has changed much and I think needs to change again (eliminating the electoral college. The system set up for landed, white males on the eastern seaboard to run the country for the possible benefit of the rest was possible because the electoral college gave a voice to the smaller states limiting dominance by larger states. This allowed agreement to join into a union. It was a world with limited communication and slow travel. Today we can watch as the projections come in on voting day. I think we are ready for a direct vote. It also means the candidates will need to address all of us not only concentrating on large electoral states.
Conservative Naturists Third Party
barefreedom Posted: Dec 1, 2011	without the electoral college it would be a nationwide vote not by state. This would assure the majority would actually elect the President. No problem of anyone not being represented.
Conservative Naturists Third Party
barefreedom Posted: Dec 1, 2011	A good reason for eliminating the electoral college and initiating democracy.
Absolute Naturists Hot Tubs and Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Nov 30, 2011	missing is the information on pathogens and warm water as an ideal but atypical environment for them. I am not a germophobe but at least mention that e coli is one of the most common causes of food poisoning. It results from food handlers not washing well after using the bathroom. E. coli O157:H7 is a problem mutant because it results in more deaths than other E. coli. Colonies of as few as 25 can result in illness from several pathogens. Infants, elderly and fetuses of pregnant women are at highest risk. I agree it is low risk. But false sense of security based on erroneous temperature information is just foolish. If you can tolerate the temperature so can pathogens. Using Chlorine in the water or other chemical sanitizers at proper strengths is the only safe way. For those of us who don't worry about low risk, enjoy the hot tub. Oh yeh, higher risk if you swallow the water.
Absolute Naturists If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace?
barefreedom Posted: Nov 30, 2011	Be sure to read the last paragraph. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/26/us/san-francisco-nudity-restrictions-provoke-the-nakedly-ambitious.html
Absolute Naturists Supporting Nude Living
barefreedom Posted: Nov 29, 2011	Sounds like you are doing just fine Skiflydive. Luxor thanks for the input.
Absolute Naturists Supporting Nude Living
barefreedom Posted: Nov 29, 2011	When on Skype with non-Nudists how careful of what's on cam are you? I am never dressed at home. When friends call I am visible to my lower chest. Do you limit to your face or do you feel the need to put a shirt on? When I have to get up for something I do an awkward dip and twist to avoid any possible quick exposure on cam. I am starting to feel this is silly as long as i am not standing posing it is just a natural glimpse. How careful do we need to be? Is it just common courtesy or being self conscious? If self conscious am I really comfortable as a nudist. I could just say I'm getting up and they could look away if it bothers them. I say this because I almost caught my leg on the edge of the desk yesterday doing the dip and twist to avoid the cam. They all know I don't where anything at home. Interested in your thoughts.
Absolute Naturists If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace?
barefreedom Posted: Nov 29, 2011	TexasnNewd it isn't new and very few do it. It recently got attention because a sanitation law is being proposed. The law would also reinforce that it is limited to a small area of the city. Since it is predominantly a gay area it is unlikely more straight residents or visitors will be going to enjoy their permitted freedom. Again we have a situation where we don't utilize our rights to the point few even know something is allowed.
Absolute Naturists Supporting Nude Living
barefreedom Posted: Nov 29, 2011	I have decided over the past two years to simply be open about preferring to be nude. It has been interesting the attitude people show. It also gets them thinking. Now when I'm invited places some friends and family will add a comment regarding dress requirement. More often than not it is simply to let me know my usual shorts and T-Shirts are fine. Sometimes its "just wear shorts". Some friends it turns out are fine with nudity. Being open and honest with yourself goes a long way. I want to start asking more people to nude venues. That should be interesting. I have noticed when in groups now, when a someone jokes or talks bad about the nudist lifestyle. I am no longer the only one speaking up. Friends will now get a word in for its defense before i do. Openness makes things better.
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Nov 28, 2011	I agree, I think we often assume brief coverage is more of an issue than it is. The towel wrap meets legal requirement and I think most people realize they have nothing to complain about. I often use the same to use the laundry, get the mail, and take down the garbage in my multibuilding apartment complex. I rarely meet anyone although do see people at a distance. When I do meet neighbors, manager, and/or maintenance we just exchange the usual pleasantries.
Conservative Naturists Third Party
barefreedom Posted: Nov 27, 2011	If you want power to the people register Independent and vote for the person, whether they are Republican, Democrat or anything else you can believe in. But don't forget it is your vote to give or withhold. What if they give an election and nobody votes.
Conservative Naturists Third Party
barefreedom Posted: Nov 27, 2011	The only way to shake up the politics of this country is to elect a third party candidate as President. The Tea Party is not an option. Toss them both out and they will learn what "of the people, by the people, for the people" means. Whenever we have written constitutions for other countries (Japan as an example) we have guaranteed multiparty participation as a protection of democracy because we know a two party system is no different than one party.
Absolute Naturists The importance of Vitamin D
barefreedom Posted: Nov 27, 2011	FreeHikingKiwi, I think you are right. Anything that brings balance to our lives and harmony with our natural environment is moving in the right direction. Walk in hozho
Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty
barefreedom Posted: Nov 26, 2011	It isn't only women that don't use their right to be topless. Today I was 80 out and sunny. After spending most of the day nude in t5he apartment and on my balcony, except for an hour of jacuzzi and sunning (swimsuit required), I put on a pair of shorts and sandals to do my shopping at the plaza across the street. No one even appeared to notice. I think they just thought why didn't I do that. Not naked but as little as the law allows.
Absolute Naturists Nude Fun in the Winter
barefreedom Posted: Nov 21, 2011	Photon it was in Japan. There are many beautiful Onsen (Hot Springs) throughout the country. Not all have rotenburo (outdoor bath) but they are fantastic get aways.
Absolute Naturists Photoshopped Pictures: what Are your thoughts?
barefreedom Posted: Nov 20, 2011	No way to stop it and some are so good they end up passed around facebook or used on the evening news. Now more than ever critical thinking and knowing the source are needed to avoid deception. Can you avoid it completely? Of course not. So take things lightly and don't let it get under your bare skin.
Absolute Naturists Nude Fun in the Winter
barefreedom Posted: Nov 19, 2011	Agree Photon but even better is a hot spring steaming while snow is scattered at the perimeter, the cold breeze is in your face and the water is hot.
Absolute Naturists Hot Tubs and Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Nov 15, 2011	As one who spent 32 years in Food Safety, I assure you 104 is optimal range for growing pathogenic bacteria. !40 is needed to kill. Rely on the chlorine and use a litmus strip to make sure you have over 50 ppm chlorine to water. Remember it evaporates quickly so every day before using check the litmus strip and add as needed.
Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Nov 4, 2011	Wrong as to needing a release if the photo was taken from a public place. I say from because this includes a person on private property viewed from public property. We have two issues being discussed and they don't match. Apples and oranges, stop trying to mix them. Perhaps separate threads would be better. 1) legal issue of taking photos of nudes in public including consequences of retaliatory actions. (Objective) 2) Possible personal injury or emotional reaction to having photos taken while nude in public. (includes textile friend, relative, employer, etc. emotion driven reactions. (subjective) THe more objective one side gets the more subjective gets the other. We just aren't discussing the same thing.
Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty
barefreedom Posted: Oct 26, 2011	I do get the point just don't think it is a good argument. Most laws regarding women's anatomical concealment does not actually require full coverage of the breast. It is limited to the nipple and areola. The rest of the breast is revealed without legal issue depending on the fashion and situation. Changing the law removes institutionalized discrimination. Women revealing their breasts is up to them. Since women use clothing to influence men (I know it is one reason, not the only reason)They will continue to hide and reveal for effect. But the law should not discriminate on this.
Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty
barefreedom Posted: Oct 26, 2011	FireProf I don't see the analogy. While I find small female breasts very esthetically pleasing I don't feel the same about male breasts either large or small. In this case I think it IS a matter of gender and quality not size. Equality is a matter of laws. Whether used or not laws should not discriminate by gender. Years ago this was a matter of court concern regarding male rape. All states had gender wording in their rape laws. courts reinterpreted and required rewriting because of cases lost because the victim was male. Courts have also ordered changes in laws establishing separate male/female restroom requirements. A person now can not face fines for using the wrong restroom if there was a line waiting for the other, it is out of service, or there is a difference in distance in most states. Virgina was the last state to remove the law prohibiting biracial married couples from sleeping in the same room. It gave equality to mixed marriages in comparison to same race marriages. The 1964 civil rights act removed many legalized methods of discrimination. Laws must change so inequality is not institutionalized and there is no legal enforcement that prohibits change and choice. If the law changes on women's breasts perhaps it will eventually change for nudity in general.
Absolute Naturists How Do You Sleep?
barefreedom Posted: Oct 22, 2011	I sleep with a comforter, body pillow and pillow. These keep me comfortable. Of course I am naked. I really can't imagine why someone chooses to sleep in clothes. When I am with someone else in the room I ask if they mind and if they do I sleep in underwear or shorts. The funny thing is if sharing with a male they are less likely to say "I don't care, be comfortable" than if sharing a room with a female. And I am not talking about someone I'm in a relationship with but casual friends or shared rooms at workshops or conferences.
Senior Nudists Towels
barefreedom Posted: Oct 20, 2011	I like the wrap and pareu ideas. I use a terry wrap when I answer the door or have someone in who I am not sure is comfortable with me staying nude. I have some nice men's pareus/sarongs/lava lava and these are not expensive. Also make an easy wrap to step outside for both men and women. http://www.ebay.com/sch/Mens-Clothing-/1059/i.html?_catref=1&_ipg=&_ssn=tropicaleasehawaii&_trksid=p3911.c0.m1538
Absolute Naturists NCH Friends & Friend Requests
barefreedom Posted: Oct 20, 2011	Friends is a statement of commonality in my thinking. It also allows you to see if someone you want to exchange chat with is in the chat room or not. You can also easily check for updates from the friends list.
Conservative Naturists Occupy Wall Street
barefreedom Posted: Oct 20, 2011	People are mad as hell, and they don't want to take it any more. Government is about how to passively fleece us rather than serving public interest. It isn't only here it is worldwide. Wall Street is the target because they bought the government. Being publicly owned does not make it (wall street) of the people, by the people or for the people. Recent court decisions making corporations equal to individuals in some ways and opening the door to more only make it worse.
Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Oct 5, 2011	Bill, that seems to sum things up. "Worry Often Gives A Small Thing A Big Shadow." Swedish Proverb
Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Oct 5, 2011	The bottom line is this is the internet and there is nothing really secure about it.
Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Oct 4, 2011	So try and change your local paparazzi laws. Whether or not we like/dislike people taking photos without permission in public, there is no law restricting it. If in a private venue a signed release is needed to be able to use someone's photo. Many not nice things are legal. We live under laws and what is nice or thought to be custom has little bearing on what can be done under legal protection. As for how I would feel, I make a decision to take part in activities knowing that it comes with negatives as well as positives. Some things you just put up with or decide on removing yourself from the situation. If you walk down the street and someone photographs an embarrassing situation and it goes viral on the internet, oh well, get over it and move on. Nudity has nothing to do with it, the laws are the same.
Absolute Naturists If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace?
barefreedom Posted: Sep 28, 2011	I agree that the social pressure to conform is very difficult to overcome and takes a long time to change. As for me I would enjoy being able to wonder our apartment complex and the park across the street without legal repercussions. Finally I wouldn't have to pull on shorts to go down and pick up the mail.
Absolute Naturists How Do You View Clothing?
barefreedom Posted: Sep 28, 2011	I agree with you SunBunny. But would add that I regard them as a nuisance put on most of the time just to placate friends and avoid arrest.
Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty
barefreedom Posted: Sep 24, 2011	Rights are about legal allowances. They don't need to be used to be protected. It is about freedom and choice. As it has been pointed here by many members, most men do not use the right to go shirtless in their neighborhood especially in the grocery store. But that doesn't mean the right of choice should be restricted. Laws requiring clothing for anything but sanitation and physical protection are simply government regulation limiting freedom of choice. Freedoms need to be protected used or not.
Nudist Legal Discussions Southern California Beach Report
barefreedom Posted: Sep 24, 2011	California allows law by referendum and initiative. It is time to for a law to be put on the ballot permitting nudity on state property (at least state and local beaches, as well as rural state and local park land). We have the power to bring it to a vote. Simply being nude without lewdness in public should be protected by a state law. It needs to be voted on. Let's separate simple nudity from misbehavior.
Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty
barefreedom Posted: Sep 24, 2011	FireProf you are right in saying that sanitation for food and nudity is a matter of perception. The most unsanitary part of your body is your hands. Also sneezing spreads air born bacteria and virus. Being clothed does nothing to protect your food in the market. A clothed person can get pesticide they were exposed to outside on your fruits just as easily as a nude person. A person's dog's E coli can be transferred by the hand that pet it.Dirt on a jacket or shirt is even more likely to get on food than from a bare chest or belly. People go to the market witth all kinds of filth on their hands. Being clothed or not doesn't change this. Unless the market issues lab coats, hairnets, and requires hand and foot wear sanitizing upon entering, like a meat processing plant, nothing is being done for clothed sanitation. It is perception and not reality. Let's get beyond misperception.
Nudist News PETA openining Pornsite
barefreedom Posted: Sep 19, 2011	This worries me. Pavlov experimented with conditioning. Advertising uses sex to sell. This may backfire and produce a new fetish linking animal cruelty with sex. What are they thinking? Or is this just poor journalism linked to Peta protecting its name. Don't they have ownership of their name on all domain extensions?
Absolute Naturists This Airline knows how to fly
barefreedom Posted: Sep 17, 2011	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elD38pJX7iE&feature=related
Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty
barefreedom Posted: Sep 16, 2011	Perhaps we enjoy the peep show so much that we adamantly defend against nudity. Like Peter Pan we don't want to grow up and openly admire the human form. Even here it becomes a choice of hiding the body and snickering, gawking at the draped image and trying to get a peek or being completely unaffected by the beauty of the human form because of the claim to be a social nudist. Why can't we all be adults about it, take public nudity in stride, and admit that there are those among us humans we find exciting, even arousing.
Absolute Naturists Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required
barefreedom Posted: Sep 16, 2011	Reminds me of the scene in Color of Night with Bruce Willis and Jane March where she is sitting at the glass dining table and he asks her to move her plate 2 inches to the left. She complied with a smile. Whether or not the world accepts public nudity, I hope I never reach the point where I am indifferent to the beauty of a woman. It is interesting that so many comment that it becomes uninteresting or that a beautiful woman becomes unarousing when in a socially naked environment. I don't think there is anything on earth as beautiful and stirring than a young, healthy, fit member of the opposite sex. Viva la difference and may it never end.
Absolute Naturists Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required
barefreedom Posted: Sep 16, 2011	So how come no one has suggested a nude meetup in San Fran? Are there any nude activities besides the bike ride? How about nude picnics in the park? Sounds like San Fran is publicizing to be the naked your destination of the USA like Toronto did this summer for Canada.
Absolute Naturists Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required
barefreedom Posted: Sep 15, 2011	I agree Troy. Just more bureaucracy we don't need. Let the restaurant or health department set the rules of sanitation. This is out of line. As for what the district is and the gay community there, it has nothing to do with the law. Sanitary regulations and laws on lewdness apply. We have enough trgulations now to do whatever job is thought necessary. Just more political grand standing and ever increasing regulation that is difficult to enforce.
Absolute Naturists Topless Equalty
barefreedom Posted: Sep 14, 2011	No one should fear arrest for any degree of nudity. Most laws refer to lewd behavior. Simply being nude is often not restricted. But how many are willing to push the limit of the law? Topless for men is allowed most places. But how many go out without putting on a shirt? I do this in summer and warm days in my neighborhood. I go shopping at the shopping center across the street or at the grocery store in shorts and sandals. I posted a thread on going the limit of the law and most comments were that it is offensive. Women have the right in a few states/cities to be topless in fast foods, parks, driving etc. However, topless women everywhere hurts the shock value, the titillation, if you will, of the female breasts. Women love costuming for effect, they are not into removing mystique. For that perhaps women in places where they don't have to face arrest could use bodypaint to create what they do with clothing. Let's use our rights. We can't go further until we get use to what we have.
Spiritual Nudists Nudity as a spiritual practice
barefreedom Posted: Sep 14, 2011	spir·it·u·al noun /ˈspiriCHo͞oəl/ spirituals, plural 1. A religious song of a kind associated with black Christians of the southern US, and thought to derive from the combination of European hymns and African musical elements by black slaves adjective /ˈspiriCHo͞oəl/ 1. Of, relating to, or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things * - I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare * - the spiritual values of life 2. (of a person) Not concerned with material values or pursuits 3. Of or relating to religion or religious belief * - the tribe's spiritual leader\ http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/spiritual Not so hard to understand nor is it evidence based. It is a belief that there is more to life than just physical science. It is an attempt to find meaning in life in a realm yet undetectable to science. Science attempts to explain it as a psychological phenomenon. Whether you believe in a/many god/s spirituality is a perception or belief that there is power beyond the physical world that influences the physical. We perceive many things that have not been adequately measured scientifically. The question is, is there anything beyond what science has so far revealed. That is belief no matter what form it takes. For many it takes the form of being part of a universal fabric rooted in the commonality of all things. These people seek this bond through ceremony in nature recognizing a oneness. Others believe in a creator who created all things with man as a pinnacle of that creation. As for nudity and spirituality both can enjoy this as a spiritual celebration. One tries to experience greater oneness by shedding clothes that isolate the body. This is to feel the oneness to a greater degree. To open the senses and be unrestrained with the mind inspired by the senses unfettered. To be as close as we can to the elements separated only by our physical form. The other can be naked before their god. Approaching without refinement as they were created and without shame before god. Both experience a spiritual experience. One beyond physical explanation. One that is better then while concealed in man made clothing that sets us apart from the rest. And then there is the sense of freedom experienced with the sun warming your skin, the breeze caressing you and enhancing the feeling of being alive. The feeling of being without any shackles. Revel in your nakedness friends.
Nudist Legal Discussions State Laws
barefreedom Posted: Sep 7, 2011	When in San Francisco be sure to carry a towel. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/07/MNVK1L0TD9.DTL
Nudist Legal Discussions State Laws
barefreedom Posted: Sep 7, 2011	An easy to use chart of state laws on nudity. Looks like we need to stay out of Arkansas. http://www.nudistlaw.com/state_laws.htm
San Onofre Nude Beach Anyone interested in what's going on at San Onofre...
barefreedom Posted: Sep 3, 2011	while we are at it include in the initiative topless equality for women like Texas & New York have.
San Onofre Nude Beach Anyone interested in what's going on at San Onofre...
barefreedom Posted: Sep 3, 2011	FireProf, perhaps an initiative should be put on the ballot to make state parks clothing optional. Also prohibit local laws from punishing non lewd nudity on private property because of being seen by a casual observer. It would be interesting to include the expense the park service is spending in impoverished california in the campaign. We get all kinds of nonsense initiatives in this state. Perhaps now is the time to put shame of skin to a vote.
Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Sep 2, 2011	I agree, I would smile and probably start taking photos of the photographer. I would be in public so I know it could happen whether nude or wearing a silly hat. I would be more worried about the silly hat photo getting around. But that is how it goes. Myself, I never take a photo of someone without asking (unless they are in the background or pass through). I agree with having courtesy but it isn't backed by law nor do I expect it from others. It is nice when someone follows similar rules of courtesy that I grew up with. Having been to other countries I know they are not all universal. Voyeur, harasser, or if you are a professional it is called paparazzi. Might not like it but it is part of being in public today. Perhaps it means you have arrived at celebrity status.
Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Sep 1, 2011	Jim the only legal restraint would be child pornography. The rest might be nice but there is no law assuring it. It is a personal concept of politeness. The only thing that can be enforced is laws. So don't hit someone for violating your personal sensibility because that breaks a law. As for upskirts the law differs by locality but has no meaning on a nude beach. If you demand the right to be nude in public you have to accept the exposure it gives you. There are laws regarding harassment but that does not include being nearby taking photos.
Absolute Naturists Uninvited Photography of Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Sep 1, 2011	Well said Armadillo, there should be no expectation in public that your privacy exists or that photographing you is a violation of that privacy. 1pub·lic adj \ˈpə-blik\ Definition of PUBLIC 1 a : exposed to general view : open b : well-known, prominent c : perceptible, material 2 a : of, relating to, or affecting all the people or the whole area of a nation or state b : of or relating to a government c : of, relating to, or being in the service of the community or nation 3 a : of or relating to people in general : universal b : general, popular 4 : of or relating to business or community interests as opposed to private affairs : social 5 : devoted to the general or national welfare : humanitarian 6 a : accessible to or shared by all members of the community b : capitalized in shares that can be freely traded on the open market —often used with go 7: supported by public funds and private contributions rather than by income from commercials ! & 6 apply don't they? I don't see anything about right of privacy in public.
Absolute Naturists YOUR Nude Quote of the Day
barefreedom Posted: Aug 31, 2011	"There are those who so dislike the nude that they find something indecent in the naked truth." F. H. Bradley (Philosopher, 1846–1924)
Absolute Naturists Self-introduction
barefreedom Posted: Aug 29, 2011	Never been there or Taiwan. I have traveled from Chengdu to Shanghai up to Beijing and over to Shandong and Liaoning.
Absolute Naturists Self-introduction
barefreedom Posted: Aug 29, 2011	Alex, what part of China. It is a big country even larger than the USA.
Absolute Naturists Self-introduction
barefreedom Posted: Aug 29, 2011	你好,你好嗎 Perhaps someday nudity will be permitted publicly in China and Taiwan. At least there are the bath houses and saunas. If you get a chance to visit Europe you can enjoy a more open and natural environment. Here in the USA there are a few places to go outdoors but most carry risk of arrest or a violation ticket. Nude Social Clubs in private are permitted here as we have greater freedom in what we do in private. It is sad China does not allow clothing optional at resorts and public parks. There are so many places that would be nice to visit nude in nature. Enjoy your home nudity, for many of us it is all we have.
Progressive Nudists First it's teabagging, now the right is reduced to this
barefreedom Posted: Aug 27, 2011	I don't agree that the care is so wonderful. Our medical system spends lots of money on stopping symptoms rather than controlling cause. Paying for exercise, nutrition counseling and alternative maintenance such as massage would reduce illness in this country. Also prohibiting many harmful additives in our food would help greatly. But health care is about business more than health. The current practices fuel multi-billion dollar industries.
Naturists Conservancy T-Shirt
barefreedom Posted: Aug 27, 2011	I just got my T-Shirt. It is ve3ry nice with the logo of the conservancy on the front and the logo is repeated on the back larger. Over the large logo is "Take A Hike!" I am going to give it to one of my clients who is from Michigan and likes hiking.
Absolute Naturists Why is nudity considered to be so awful?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 25, 2011	I went to the market yesterday to get my dinner. I was wearing shorts and sandals, no shirt. The lady at the deli counter and I oftten talk. THis time she started heckling me about going out without a shirt. I told her "why should I wear any more than I have to in this heat (91 degrees). Then she told me why she acted like that. " I just get so mad that men can do that and I can't" I sympathized and the heckling was over.
Blacks Beach Anyone going?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 21, 2011	uh oh, that's a four hour trip.
Blacks Beach Anyone going?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 21, 2011	Someone on facebook group Black beach Bares just gave me a great idea that I hadn't thought of. "Take train to oceanside or encinitas and bus 11 to glider port." I'm checking this out to see how long it would take. But if cold perhaps I can visit my friend who moved to Riverside. THe only thing is I'll have to decide how much textile I'll need for the trip rather than driving naked.
Blacks Beach Anyone going?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 21, 2011	I lost my ride to Blacks for tomorrow. Anyone going from or through L.A.? Anyone planning to be there? How is the weather this weekend. Mornings in L.A. have been cold and foggy. I want nice hot sand and warmish water. Do you think it is possible?
Nude Massage Favorite Type of Massage
barefreedom Posted: Aug 19, 2011	tennis_nude, I'm going to throw this back at you and ask "massage for what?" Relax I prefer Lomi Lomi receiving or giving. Otherwise I do and receive Korean Martial Therapy, Myofascial Release, Acupressure, Lymphatic Massage, or Craniosacral Therapy. Oh yeh, sexual massage is nuru body2body with a female. Otherwise either gender will do as long as they are good and experienced.
Nude Massage Favorite Type of Massage
barefreedom Posted: Aug 19, 2011	Jim if you have only tried Swedish you still have a lot to experience about massage. First if you want to relax try Lomi Lomi massage. But relaxing is a benefit of all types of massage. Try Thai for mobility, and others for boosting immune system, recovery from illness, injury, or surgery. Most childhood illnesses can be cured by Xiao Er Tuina. Pain relief is often found witth Myofascial Release or Korean Martial Therapy. Deep Lymphatic and KMT or Thai can also correct most intestinal disorders. There is a whole world of massage to explore.
Questions, Help and Support Ideas to improve the NudistClubHouse!
barefreedom Posted: Aug 18, 2011	i like the new at the end listing of posts. It only takes a tenth of a second to scroll to the end. As I scroll I watch the id pics to see if any new ones are posted along the way. That also lets me pick out any posts by people whose posts are often good reading. For me the post order can be left as is.
Questions, Help and Support Ideas to improve the NudistClubHouse!
barefreedom Posted: Aug 17, 2011	Then you open up to spammers. I like the recent photo ideas. It might bring more women here and make people less afraid of having an open profile. Brian, what do you think about it?
Nudist Legal Discussions Indecent Exposure
barefreedom Posted: Aug 17, 2011	Yes, this is true in many places. Even if you have a solid wall but someone could see from a second floor window across the street and up a hill. The world has gone mad.
Absolute Naturists How To: Talk Nude Quietly
barefreedom Posted: Aug 15, 2011	The older I get, the less quiet I am. This year's trip to Bavaria was quite an experience and great comfort to me as a "prefer to be naked" person. Many places were coed and there was no concern about nudity. This included camp cabins, showers, massages, the English Garden (Central Park of Munich, changing areas, sauna, spa pools, and etc. I openly share this information with those I associate with. A few are disturbed by it, most smile and say "not for me, I'm not brave like you", and a few say "sounds great, I must give it a try". From all but the first group I experience greater respect for my openness. The T-Shirts are great ideas, as well as just not hiding this part of ourselves. Expressing your "preference to be naked" I think requires more confidence than the act of being with other people secluded and participating in social nudism. Expressing not only bares the body but bares the self?
Blacks Beach Revitalize this group!
barefreedom Posted: Aug 15, 2011	Found a friend to share the drive with for next Monday. She wants to go to the beach but says she'll wear a suit. That's fine, can't wait to get in the water.
Absolute Naturists Bodypainting
barefreedom Posted: Aug 14, 2011	gymnostim, that is a wonderful use of bodypainting.
Blacks Beach Revitalize this group!
barefreedom Posted: Aug 14, 2011	Hopefully the sun will be warming the beach in September. Perhaps we can meet then. It may be laughable (better than crying over it) that enjoying the ocean naked at Blacks is not a problem. But if I were to get a ticket at S.O. it could cost me my teaching credentials and my massage license. At the least it would mean suspension, loss of business, and aggravating hearings to defend both. Oh well that is life in puritanical over regulated America.
Blacks Beach Revitalize this group!
barefreedom Posted: Aug 14, 2011	Fiesco, I agree it is quite a climb but also that it is worth it. Perhaps it is also a reminder to us over 60 that we need to go more often to workout climbing the path. Is there anyone from L.A. who would share driving to Blacks either this Monday or next. Would like to spend the day but it is a long drive.
Blacks Beach Blacks Beach and its extentions
barefreedom Posted: Aug 12, 2011	Anyone from L.A. driving down to Blacks this Monday or next?. I am hoping to share driving.
Naturists Conservancy North Wood Conservancy
barefreedom Posted: Aug 10, 2011	I think this is a great idea. I made it clear in my note to them that I was interested in it being available for naturists. If Naturists dominate the membership of a conservancy then it should be easy to assure clothing optional use.
Naturists Conservancy North Wood Conservancy
barefreedom Posted: Aug 8, 2011	From the quote it appears there is no prohibition against nude use of the land. However, I did not get a response to my request for a policy on nude land use.
Absolute Naturists Bodypainting
barefreedom Posted: Aug 8, 2011	Too bad there isn't one on the West Coast. http://www.fantasyfest.net/about-the-fest.cfm
Nudist Legal Discussions Naturists Conservancy
barefreedom Posted: Aug 7, 2011	just got this regarding my tshirt order. "Great, thank you Daniel. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) the t-shirts have been flying out the door. I have to place another rush order on Monday. So please expect about 2 weeks for it to arrive. Sorry for the delay! Stephanie Swartzendruber North Woods Conservancy northwoodsconservancy.org" Glad to hear there is so much interest. I hope a good enough percentage are naturists so we can influence policy.
Absolute Naturists Bodypainting
barefreedom Posted: Aug 5, 2011	We have had topics on shaving/trimming/waxing hair and on tats. But what about bodypainting? How does it fit with an absolute naturists philosophy? Is it a cop out? Is it an preferred choice to wearing clothing? Does it alter the naturist attitude of acceptability and equalization? Personally I think it is great fun and one of the most interesting art forms. Here is a site I like http://www.skincitybodypainting.com/Home.html. I much prefer it to tats simply because it is temporary and offers greater artistic experimentation. As a baturist I think it would make a great Halloween costume or costume for any occasion. One of the galleries shows painted pregnant bellies. What a great idea for making a friend or wife feel beautiful. What do you think?
Nudist Legal Discussions Naturists Conservancy
barefreedom Posted: Aug 5, 2011	Thanks for the information. Below is my letter to them after joining. "Thank you for the work you are doing to conserve our natural lands. Activity such as this assures that natural wildlife lands will be preserved for future enjoyment. I just joined and bought a T-Shirt as well. I will also introduce this organization to friends from Michigan who regularly go back and look for interesting hiking places. As a nudist, who enjoys the freedom of being in nature and feeling the sun and breezes on my skin, I would like to know what the policy is on enjoying the properties nude. Is there any problem with enjoying the trails and beach without clothing with my friends? Would this apply throughout the properties or do you limit such activity to marked clothing optional areas? It certainly would be nice to be able to hike and then jump in for a swim without planning ahead by bringing a swimsuit. It leads to more spontaneous enjoyment of the natural environment. Again thank you for the important work you are doing. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Dan"
Absolute Naturists The limit of the law
barefreedom Posted: Aug 3, 2011	DBO I agree that pushing people too far is counter productive. We don't want to increase resistance. It is 84 outside so I walked the block to the market in my swim shorts and flip flops. This time I remembered to bring my reusable shopping bag. Hot outside but in the super market it was so nice and cool without a shirt. Not one look of disdain. Nobody stood back at the check out counter and no one gave anything but polite service. In fact I think most may have been thinking "why didn't I do that". I guess I will know when I see others do it. So far I've only seen me in minimal clothing. Now back home with the groceries and hardly a sweat. I believe unless it is acceptable to use the rights we already have, we can hardly expect to go further and have full nudity accepted in public. Encourage less before expecting none and use your right to be in public less clothed.
Absolute Naturists Is it just me or does it seem to you that nudity as a subject is popular
barefreedom Posted: Aug 2, 2011	BareCape why not reach for the sky? The higher the dream the higher reality follows. I do hope for a time when our leisure time can be spent nude or clothed as we prefer without anyone taking notice.
Absolute Naturists Why is nudity considered to be so awful?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 2, 2011	Smokey I think you have brought up a very important point. At least part of the battle over to be nude or textile is about truth. You can't hide nude. This is why nudists are such an accepting lot. It may also be why there are more middle aged or older nudists than younger. We gradually accept that we are not immortals and will age, some gracefully and some less gracefully. I also notice as I age I appreciate the beauty more of older people. Accepting truth is counter to what marketing is about.But it is a wonderful thing. Acceptance of what is so we can appreciate without deception. Perhaps if this point was discussed with textiles they might be more willing to find time to drop the clothes.
Absolute Naturists Is it just me or does it seem to you that nudity as a subject is popular
barefreedom Posted: Jul 30, 2011	Actually more and more news reports are in the vein of that the reporter just doesn't have the nerve to do it. They repeated again on the 10 o'clock news. This time with footage showing people full length from behind and it wasn't blurred the usual way just a bit but you had no trouble seeing what it was. I find it interesting that they just slightly blurred the shot rather than the strong blur spots they have used before. On facebook my obviously nude photo got wide support from friends and employees from the place I use to work at. My father was even amused and agreed my sister was overly critical. Maybe with everything else going on in the world people don't regard it as a serious threat.
Absolute Naturists Is it just me or does it seem to you that nudity as a subject is popular
barefreedom Posted: Jul 30, 2011	This summer I have seen news stories on nude beaches, nudity in parks and commercials with nudity or using dialogue mentioning nudity. A few minutes ago the 6 o'clock news did a story on Nudestock, a concert at De Anza. They were promoting it as if De Anza is a public park and this was a bit unusual concert. This was on channel 5 KTLA news. http://www.10news.com/news/28712240/detail.html
Absolute Naturists Why is nudity considered to be so awful?
barefreedom Posted: Jul 30, 2011	I think the first marketer told them. After all think of the economic disaster if we were use to nudity. Not only clothing manufacturers, designers, retailers, wholesalers, but magazines, tailors, dry cleaners, fabric softeners and so much hinges on wasting in the name of textile. It goes down to intrigue and deception. All clothing is a uniform that creates or broadcasts the wearers character or place in life. It enables us to create a persona that either blends in or stands out from those around us. Also we want to be tempted and teased. We enjoy it. How many of the guys here have never looked at a woman in curiosity because of here blouse or skirt concealing or enhancing her anatomy. Perhaps we are just afraid of boredom. Then again it might be very interesting to see department stores replace the clothing department with bodypaint booths.
Nude Massage Draping
barefreedom Posted: Jul 30, 2011	Jim there are actually very few states that require draping. What the laws do is ensure choice is given to the client. If there were not so many people anxious to make money off of law suits, consent forms for this and many other things would not be needed. They are primarily to reduce the court work load and protect from I said you said frivolous law suits.
Nude Massage Draping
barefreedom Posted: Jul 29, 2011	Thanks for doing the work Tennis_Nude. It probably would be a good idea to have a check off under "I give my consent to allow the Therapist to drape as indicated during the course of my massage". then follow it with yes and no check off boxes next to the following statements. "I request that my chest/breasts be uncovered" yes/no "I request that my buttocks be left uncovered" yes/no "I request that no draping be used including my genitals" yes/no That should satisfy consent.
Absolute Naturists Underwear, Outerwear, and Swimwear
barefreedom Posted: Jul 27, 2011	Along that line.... while in Germany I was told y several Mothers about their visits to the USA. They had a great time with their families but couldn't understand the attitude of American's at the beach. They had been approached by men and women telling them that it was inappropriate for their child (range from 2 to 5) to be running naked on the beach. They were told this is a family beach and they don't want their children seeing that. The incidents were at different times, unrelated andin east coast and wwest coast. Needless to say they thought Americans are a bit obsessed with sex.
Absolute Naturists A very interesting article
barefreedom Posted: Jul 23, 2011	Thanks for the link. The only shortcoming of the article was that it sidestepped the whole issue of religion based morality. I posted it on my fb wall anyway.
Absolute Naturists Underwear, Outerwear, and Swimwear
barefreedom Posted: Jul 20, 2011	Thanks BillyJo. Enjoyed the read and it was a well done article. But Central Park, NY has a ways to go to catch up to the English Garden, Munich. It was so nice to have a place where you could just layout and feel the air on you.
Absolute Naturists Underwear, Outerwear, and Swimwear
barefreedom Posted: Jul 20, 2011	TexasnNewd, women are still fighting in cities and states for the right to breast feed in public. Usually breastfeeding is done under a small blanket or pancho and the breast is hardly revealed. But it is still terrible in the minds of many people that a child might see what breasts are for. When it comes to full nudity women seem to get off easier than men. News shows have sometimes featured a story of women out nude such as shopping or filling their car with gas. I believe it has rarely resulted in more than a warning. But when men have been out in a park nude it has been reported as a lewd act and an arrest has been reported. As House said, you have the esthetically pleasing gender and the dangly gender. People seem to go easier on the esthetically pleasing. A few years ago lace bras were fashionable in L.A. as outerwear it didn't last more than a season but there didn't seem to be an uproar except from parents and teachers.
Absolute Naturists Are you an Absolute Naturist?
barefreedom Posted: Jul 20, 2011	BareontheCape, I think Jim stated it well. Be discrete where laws require. I hope you can get a vacation where people aren't so afraid of nudity. Armadillo, it is always difficult to leave a vacation but after 7 days nude, I don't know how you did it. I'd find it hard to put anything more than a robe and sandals on to leave. It certainly would make the security check easy at the airport.
Absolute Naturists Underwear, Outerwear, and Swimwear
barefreedom Posted: Jul 19, 2011	The law just states what must be covered. There is no distinction between underwear and swimwear. Company policies are more often based on what is acceptable. But acceptability differs by community standards and is usually not enforceable. Acceptability is usually determined by religion, culture and upbringing and rarely based on logic.
Absolute Naturists can nudity sell clothes?
barefreedom Posted: Jul 11, 2011	http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/113102/zappos-unadorned-marketing-approach-nytimes I guess we will find out when the Zappos ad starts running.
Absolute Naturists Positive news story
barefreedom Posted: Jul 2, 2011	The morning news just had fun activities for 4th of July. They mentioned swimming places for families. At the end they said "Bring a swimsuit, these are not for the nudie thing". I would say this was a positive comment. It was not critical and mentioned it as if it needed to be stated. That to me indicates nude swimming is becoming more acceptable. Let's hope the trend continues until most places to swim will accept nude swimming.
Absolute Naturists Positive news story
barefreedom Posted: Jul 2, 2011	Yes a very positive report. I've also noticed that many commercials have reference to being nude this summer without any snickering or negative vibe. Is it possible that the times they are a changing?
Nudist Legal Discussions A chance to be heard
barefreedom Posted: Jun 30, 2011	My comment submitted: "As long as nudity is regarded as unnatural or shameful, it will be equated with sex. Simply being nude should never be criminalized. Please support Clothing Optional Recreation so we can gain acceptance of the human body without shame or lewdness. Denying the right of men & women to drop their clothes to enjoy the sun and air is not protective of society. It maintains an atmosphere of shame. It should be left to personal choice, not legal regulation."
Nudist Legal Discussions A chance to be heard
barefreedom Posted: Jun 30, 2011	I hope all nudists in California, as well as those who would like to use California's beaches nude, will read and sign this petition to influence a decision being made by the park commission. http://hcaspro.com/petitions/calparks/clothingoptional/mailer.asp
Home Nudists Home Nudism
barefreedom Posted: Jun 30, 2011	Is a puzzlement, isn't it Nudesuncpl
Nude Massage Draping
barefreedom Posted: Jun 30, 2011	Fla_sun, could you find the Florida regulation that requires a drape. There are very few state laws that make it mandatory. I couldn't find this information online. I often get in debates with therapists about the draping issue and usually can point out that te law does not actually require a drape be used. Where it is mentioned at all, it usually is stated "must be provided". In legalese this means offered to the client and left to the client's choice. Unfortunately most Therapists don't understand legalese and perpetuate misunderstandings they pick up at school. It is more a culture issue than a legal issue.
Music Songs that mention nudity
barefreedom Posted: Jun 29, 2011	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LfByNoAbcw This is Loretta Lynn - Naked In The Rain
Absolute Naturists Are you an Absolute Naturist?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 28, 2011	Yes
Absolute Naturists What is a non-nudist?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 28, 2011	Wouldn't want that to happen Captain. None of the stores here have any clothing restriction posted at the entrances. Food establishments use to have them but I think it got struck down because a customer's dress or lack of does not effect food preparation.
Absolute Naturists What is a non-nudist?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 28, 2011	Jim don't you think it is interesting that we as nudists find it difficult to enter a business shirtless even though the law says that as men it is perfectly fine. It makes me wonder if men actually used the limit of the law would it become more permissable for women to breast feed in public or even gain the same shirtless law. By the way it was easier to enjoy laying on the grass of the English Garden fully nude (where it is accepted) than walk into the CVS or Grocery shirtless but with a pair of shorts screening my spiritual nudity.
Absolute Naturists What is a non-nudist?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 28, 2011	I raised the question in another thread about only meeting the limits of the law to be clothed. It received very little comment and even was criticized for being offensive to the clothed. I pointed out that I have had very few negative comments or looks (mostly just people that don't want to stand behind me at the checkout line and shift places further back). Mostly just get smiles and some compliments. I go to the shopping plaza across the street from my apartment in shorts and sandals. This is unusual since everyone else is fully dressed and depending on the weather maybe even in jackets. No this isn't fully nude, and I am not driving with the risk of being discovered. But I am pushing the envelope to get there acceptance for being in less for comfort. I've broken no law but I have broken custom by following what the law allows. I think this is activism because when everyone accepts the legal limit of being unclothed, I believe going over the line becomes easier. And I do like getting sun on most of me even if I can't go downstairs to get my mail nude. I usually dress in T & shorts while working at my massage clinic. I get smiles and comments on "how casual I am" Now that summer is here some of the other shop owners have switched to shorts this year :-)
just plain nudists Does being "labeled" a nudist...bother you?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 23, 2011	I recently posted a nude photo of myself on the grass of the English Garden in fb. It is similar to the one here but does not violate fb policies. Reaction was very positive from friends, associates and family. Some were surprised but now feel they know more about me and that I "walk the talk". Only my sister said it is inappropriate and should be removed immediately because families look at the photos. So now everyone is clear that I am indeed a nudist, if they had any doubt. It is one of many labels people associate with me. Each tells something about me. Nothing wrong about labels as long as they are not being used to discriminate, harass, or intimidate a person.
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Jun 21, 2011	I was recently in Germany for a Lomi Massage camp. The experience was fantastic. I had heard of the English Garden in Munich and hoped to lay on the grass with the sun and breeze on my naked body. I never fully anticipated the life changing experience it could be until I did it. I arrived late in the afternoon and it looked like rain any minute. Because of this there were no other sunbathers. A friend I made at the massage camp was showing me around Munich. I told her about what I wanted to do. She brought along a sarong in her purse for me to lay on. After we enjoyed the brass band, beer and pretzels we strolled to the large area that is clothing optional. You can see one of the photos she took. I also have one (carefully cropped on fb). The feeling of being so relaxed lying on the grass under a tree nude, I can not express. In Germany nudity is hardly an issue and saunas, parks, showers, rivers and lakes are places you see men and women nude together without any concern. English Garden is Germany's largest city park (think Central Park, NY). The air was perfect, just warm not hot or cold. I was totally relaxed in my birthday suit with guys passing playing soccer close by and a woman walking her dog. Her dog ran to my friend and the woman came over and talked with her. No judgment, in fact hardly a notice. Being in the park and some other places in Germany where people were nonchalantly nude, was different than being in a limited nude designated area. It was liberating in a way I haven't felt before. It just wasn't a concern of those around me. I hope there will be a day when Americans can accept just being. Perhaps a nude bike ride would have this effect but I hear there are many gawkers and that is what made Germany great. Nobody cared who was dressed or naked. Nearly 100 years of FKK has brought reason to Germany.
Nude Massage Draping
barefreedom Posted: Jun 19, 2011	Fireprof why waste so much time? Being in the industry I think you should explain yourself when you book your first massage and see if it is acceptable. It is strictly a matter of the Therapists fears. If they are state certified in California, there is no requirement of a drape. It is choice. Since I dislike the moving of the sheet I select Therapists that will use a small towel or no drape. Happy hunting.
Nude Massage Draping
barefreedom Posted: Jun 18, 2011	Luke California does not have a draping regulation. Nor is it required in most states. Sometimes the regulatory statement "draping must be provided" confuses people. It only means that you provide it and it is the choice of the person being massaged. I was lucky to attend the Hawaii-Festival in Germany where 220 Lomi practitioners were exchanging massage indoors and out for three days. It was amazing.
Absolute Naturists Reach out and Tell a Friend
barefreedom Posted: Jun 16, 2011	I reached out on facebook. I am open in my statements and recently posted a nude photo in the English Garden. It wasn't as revealing as the one I uploaded here but it is obvious. One problem we have is when we hide our preference for being nude we don't know who agrees and doesn't.
Absolute Naturists Is there anyone you'd be embarrassed to have see you naked?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 16, 2011	Embarrassed I wouldn't be but I have friends it would embarrass. I have been more open about my preference to be nude. I recently posted a nude photo of my self on facebook on the grass at English Garden, Munich. In the background of my pics are soccer players and a lady walking her dog. The only negative comment I got was from my sister. I like the German attitude of "live and let live". Friends and family have been a bit surprised and initially mildly critical but then just accept it as part of me as long as I don't force it on them. If you are not aggressive in presenting this preference people are more accepting. I have been surprised at who is willing to try also and those that tell me it isn't necessary to put on clothes when they come over. Present it in a nonthreatening manner and you may be surprised. You should let people know when you prefer to be nude and let them decide if they are ok with it. Being open and honest only helps acceptance.
Nudist Communities Formation Are Nude Community Formations Now Occuring?
barefreedom Posted: May 28, 2011	Better yet, how about signs on the surrounding streets stating "You are Entering a Nudity Preferred District".
Nudist Comedy Youths HOW TO LOOK GOOD NAKED ...
barefreedom Posted: May 25, 2011	Thanks Andy, I didn't know about the American show on Lifetime. I googled and watched the show http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/how-to-look-good-naked/video. It is about self perception and appreciating yourself by seeing and dressing your best. A great message for both women and men. This show should have better publicity but the body scrutiny is probably too embarrassing for us Americans. I posted it on facebook, interested in what reaction it gets. As for the ads, I like them. It will get shock attention but it clearly states what it is about.
Nudist Individuals Friend Choices
barefreedom Posted: May 21, 2011	Only Premium members can add a note to a friend request. All others are blind requests unless you leave a comment on their profile.
Absolute Naturists Favorite Beverages While Nude
barefreedom Posted: May 13, 2011	SunBunny you have certainly posed an interesting situation here. I must ask, do your tastes change when you are with or without clothing? What do you like while nude that you don't while clothed?
Absolute Naturists TOPIC 101: "GOING NAKED" ADVERT
barefreedom Posted: May 12, 2011	The actual evidence is not so clear. limiting length of exposure is more important than wearing sunscreen. Does solar exposure, as indicated by the non-melanoma skin cancers, protect from solid cancers: vitamin D as a possible explanation. Tuohimaa P, Pukkala E, Scélo G, Olsen JH, Brewster DH, Hemminki K, Tracey E, Weiderpass E, Kliewer EV, Pompe-Kirn V, McBride ML, Martos C, Chia KS, Tonita JM, Jonasson JG, Boffetta P, Brennan P. Source Medical School, Department of Clinical Chemistry, University of Tampere, Tampere University Hospital, Tampere 33014, Finland. Pentti.Tuohimaa@uta.f Abstract BACKGROUND: Skin cancers are known to be associated with sun exposure, whereas sunlight through the production of vitamin D may protect against some cancers. The aim of this study was to assess whether patients with skin cancer have an altered risk of developing other cancers. METHODS: The study cohort consisted of 416,134 cases of skin cancer and 3,776,501 cases of non-skin cancer as a first cancer extracted from 13 cancer registries. 10,886 melanoma and 35,620 non-melanoma skin cancer cases had second cancers. The observed numbers (O) of 46 types of second primary cancer after skin melanoma, basal cell carcinoma or non-basal cell carcinoma, and of skin cancers following non-skin cancers were compared to the expected numbers (E) derived from the age, sex and calendar period specific cancer incidence rates in each of the cancer registries (O/E=SIR, standardised incidence ratios). Rates from cancer registries classified to sunny countries (Australia, Singapore and Spain) and less sunny countries (Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Scotland, Slovenia and Sweden) were compared to each other. RESULTS: SIR of all second solid primary cancers (except skin and lip) after skin melanoma were significantly lower for the sunny countries (SIR(S)=1.03; 95% CI 0.99-1.08) than in the less sunny countries (SIR(L)=1.14; 95%CI 1.11-1.17). The difference was more obvious after non-melanoma skin cancers: after basal cell carcinoma SIR(S)/SIR(L)=0.65 (95%CI=0.58-0.72); after non-basal cell carcinoma SIR(S)/SIR(L)=0.58 (95%CI=0.50-0.67). In sunny countries, the risk of second primary cancer after non-melanoma skin cancers was lower for most of the cancers except for lip, mouth and non-Hodgkin lymphoma. CONCLUSIONS: Vitamin D production in the skin seems to decrease the risk of several solid cancers (especially stomach, colorectal, liver and gallbladder, pancreas, lung, female breast, prostate, bladder and kidney cancers). The apparently protective effect of sun exposure against second primary cancer is more pronounced after non-melanoma skin cancers than melanoma, which is consistent with earlier reports that non-melanoma skin cancers reflect cumulative sun exposure, whereas melanoma is more related to sunburn. PMID: 17540555 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17540555
Absolute Naturists Busy Schedules and Nudity
barefreedom Posted: May 12, 2011	I agree with you gymnostim. Clothes consume time. Just think of how much shopping and laundry time could be saved. Although, we would have to find a way to restore the economy from the ramifications of lost business. But then people wouldn't need to make as much since expenses drop. It poses a vision of a whole new world.
San Onofre Nude Beach Anyone interested in what's going on at San Onofre...
barefreedom Posted: May 12, 2011	Personals are about hooking up. I just searched blacks beach, san diego, personals, and actually thought they were milder than many clothed personals about what they are looking for. Also the few pics I saw were not of people who spend time on a beach nude. It is a lovely beach so don't worry about craigslist.
Nudist News Only in America
barefreedom Posted: May 12, 2011	Even in "live and let live" Bavaria rules must be followed http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A71800409
Nudist News Only in America
barefreedom Posted: May 12, 2011	Looking at the corn dog segment it seems the south is as concerned about sanitary food production as China. We already know it is the center of heart attack and cardiovascular disease in the USA. As for nudist resorts being part of the uniqueness of America? Perhaps in that we must retreat to nudist retreats or face prosecution. Soon I will travel to a really unique place. Germany is body tolerant if not out right body friendly. Here is a forum for English speakers http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index.php/t16407.html#
Blacks Beach Hot Days Coming
barefreedom Posted: May 11, 2011	Craigslist is hardly a definitive source. When I was there last year the Park Rangers were always in view. They checked on anything they thought suspicious. With that kind of surveillance I don't think anything much can go on. Probably just posts by horny hopeful college students.
Nudist Communities Formation Nude or Clothing Optional, hmmmm
barefreedom Posted: May 10, 2011	First we need to use it here. Then perhaps write a letter to AANR detailing our reasons for adopting the term. Perhaps even write a short article to submit about the positive nature of the term for the nudist community.
Nudist Communities Formation Nude or Clothing Optional, hmmmm
barefreedom Posted: May 10, 2011	gymnostim I like that term and think we should encourage its use. We are nudists and "clothing optional" is such a textile term. "Nudity preferred" is much more in keeping with the philosophy and lifestyle. It is actually what we want to express. Great idea!
Absolute Naturists Much a Do About Nothing
barefreedom Posted: Apr 30, 2011	Big news in the world as Kate reveals her wedding dress. http://royalwedding.yahoo.com/blogs/fashion-experts-review-kates-wedding-dress-8253 So fellow proponents of clothes free, what do you think? News worthy or not? Is it a welcome distraction or a waste of cloth? To me it is rather amusing to see all the news focus on what I regard as much a do about nothing. How much was spent? At least it boosts the economy as brides rush to buy rip off copies of the dress. Now this honors the couple rather than the designer, don't you think? http://www.nudistclubhouse.com/wedding.php
Home Nudists Why not a Nudist Clubhouse flag?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 29, 2011	Popi you might not have copied and pasted the complete link. One letter missing will go nowhere. The link works.
Home Nudists Why not a Nudist Clubhouse flag?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 28, 2011	Texasnude, I like the decal suggestion. I would put it on my car. It would be great if one day I am carrying groceries to my car. Another car pulls in and the driver gets out. We both look at the other's car. Big grins appear as we notice both have the decal. At the same time we both say "are you _______ from nudistclubhouse online?"
Absolute Naturists TO BE OR NOT TO BE … NUDE
barefreedom Posted: Apr 23, 2011	There is a question here? Could you change the nude pics to B/W? That would make them look closer in time. The main difference I see is that the clothed look colder and the nudes are more comfortable with their environment.
Absolute Naturists What Can You Do to Promote Positive Naturism?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 22, 2011	I am open with others about preferring the nude lifestyle. I have invited others to join me at the nude beach. On facebook I have posted regarding nudism (just posted that terrific video "Nude Not"). No one stops seeing me or friending because of this. We even discuss it, some disapprove, some admire my ability to be so confident and free. They just take it as one of my oddities for the most part. When it is warm I am out in shorts and sandals as the law allows men.
Nudist Comedy Youths NUDE NOT
barefreedom Posted: Apr 22, 2011	Very cool film. But a smoker renting a no smoking apartment loses credibility. ;-) I shared it on my facebook page.
Nudist Clubhouse Events Fall Meetup Sept 9-11
barefreedom Posted: Apr 22, 2011	Can the location be put in the thread title? September 9, 10 & 11, 2011 • DeAnza Springs Resort, Jacumba, California EVERYDAY: Enjoy the club! LOG IN TO CHAT ROOM: 1:00 PM, Saturday the 10th GROUP PHOTO: 3:30 PM., Saturday the 10th SPECIAL GATHERING: 4:00 PM, Saturday the 10th NUDES IN THE NEWS: 10:00 AM, Sunday the 11th http://deanzasprings.com/about.php And they have no single male restriction. Was that a consideration in picking a location?
Nudist Individuals Married-Single
barefreedom Posted: Apr 20, 2011	A list of clubs by state that accept single males would be very useful. Olivia I applaud your decision to not go where single discriminatory practices exist. I hope you will report back on how that goes.
Blacks Beach Hot Days Coming
barefreedom Posted: Apr 19, 2011	Last year was the first time I went to Blacks Beach. The sand was powdery, you can walk a ways out and ride the gentle waves back. It was wonderful and relaxing. Before I could return it turned cold. The hot beach weather is returning. I am looking forward to more beach days coming. If someone from the L.A. area is looking to share the driving let me know. Perhaps we can work out a common day available.
Family Nudists Teach Your Children Well
barefreedom Posted: Apr 19, 2011	My daughter is now 31 and married. When she was growing up I was always nude at home and while gardening. Her Mom was obvious about tolerating it but clear that she did not approve of nudity. My daughter is quite shy but it took me long discussions with her husband to persuade him that being a nudist is not a perversion. He now agrees that my choice needs to be protected and is not necessarily a perversion. He had an easier time deciding to vote for same sex marriage. Seems he believed we are a threat and endangerment to society. He is grudgingly accepting that nudity and sex may not be the same thing. Anyway if the parents are divided on the issue then you never know which way the children will go.
Absolute Naturists I like to use the term "naked" over nude..
barefreedom Posted: Apr 18, 2011	Naked is one of those commoner English terms and nude is from those high faluten French invaders. Be an Anglo Saxon patriot and say NAKED.
Absolute Naturists World Naked Gardening Day
barefreedom Posted: Apr 16, 2011	That's the beauty of virtual gardening, weather doesn't matter. And you still get to make a statement.
Absolute Naturists Nudist Company Office
barefreedom Posted: Apr 16, 2011	seems like they may want to get photos for their website as "promotion". So if clients come to the office must they leave their clothes at the door also? Seems if it was legit they wouldn't have the pretty and age requirements which they could still select for at interview. I'm also suspicious of the ad being in Craigslist. If it was serious wouldn't it just be in the company description and the job mentioned as a regular job on a site like "Monster" and simply say seeking males and females?
Absolute Naturists World Naked Gardening Day
barefreedom Posted: Apr 16, 2011	We could join this virtually http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=157291940998078 or this http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=307217858725 or how about opening up our own NCH Nude gardening DAY virtual garden page?
Absolute Naturists World Naked Gardening Day
barefreedom Posted: Apr 16, 2011	When I had my yard every day was naked gardening day. Now I have mt balcony plants which I also tend to naked. So how can we promote this day. Perhaps someone could print T-Shirts for everyone. Or maybe find a garden to tend. Is there a facebook page for this?
Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity
barefreedom Posted: Apr 13, 2011	Appropriate? Hhmmmm...... read about the new hiking trail in Germany. http://www.smh.com.au/travel/activity/great-outdoors/nude-travel-holidays-with-cheek-20100310-pyge.html My coming trip to Germany looks more interesting all the time.
Absolute Naturists Outdoor Nudity
barefreedom Posted: Apr 10, 2011	Being outdoors completely without clothing removes the physical, psychological, and spiritual barriers. I feel free and at one with every other on this planet. There is a fresher vitality as the air moves by. All senses are heightened as all the protective armor is shed.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy Anyone into juicing?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 9, 2011	An excellent juice blend is equal amounts carrot and celery, half as much cucumber and a quarter as much beet. It is nutritious, a good cleanser of cells and blood, and it can eliminate the effects of arthritis. drink 16 oz per day for beneficial affects. 22 years ago I couldn't close my hands and pain was horrible from arthritis. I drank the juice for 10 days and have only experienced brief tings since. I enjoy a drink of pineapple, apple, banana and parsley often. Fresh apple juice is totally different from store bought. Enjoy
Absolute Naturists Facebook - Good or Bad for Nudists?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 8, 2011	I agree BareonTheCape. That's why I clicked the friend link for the club house on facebook. My textile friends, clients & relatives don't have to see me nude but they should know it is part of who I am.
Nude Massage Best online source for purchasing tables/supplies
barefreedom Posted: Apr 7, 2011	massagewarehouse.com is good. Many of my friends use it for supplies. I find it better to decide on what item you want and then google it. This usually turns up the best prices. http://www.thesage.com/ is one of my favorites for oils. Try Jojoba oil alone or blended with Rice Bran oil, Grapeseed and a little olive oil. Add whatever essential oils you like. There is no value that I see in buying preblended oils. Join massageprofessionals.com and ask there which products people like best. Best of luck,
Absolute Naturists Best Nudist Beaches
barefreedom Posted: Apr 7, 2011	LionKing I vote for yours as the best response.
Absolute Naturists Facebook - Good or Bad for Nudists?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 7, 2011	Gymnostim, if you still do facebook at all you might want to put these on your wall. http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Academy-of-Breastfeeding-Medicine/323867490324 They promote breast feeding with news, events and legislation information. http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/American-Association-for-Nude-Recreation/79525336131 http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=64205213062 (both AANR) http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=55003532501 (Blacks Beach) http://www.facebook.com/#!/vitanuda I don't have a problem with the restrictions on facebook because I think it allows the curious to read and take a look without being "scared" away and opening up to the idea. Most of my friends on FB are not open to nudism but there are some who have surprised me. I also think it helps get people use to the idea that freedom is ok. ;-)
just plain nudists Does being "labeled" a nudist...bother you?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 6, 2011	called worse, but not better..... call that a badge of honor.
Nude Photographers another idea
barefreedom Posted: Apr 2, 2011	Pam, sadly there is a great cultural difference. Americans are afraid of their skin and everyone else's. We have to be very careful how we do things so as not to offend or violate a law with the possibility of losing a professional license. I will be going to a Hawaii Festival in Bavaria in a couple months. This is my first time to Europe and I don't know what to expect. I've heard from online friends that it is very relaxed and if I want to get naked there are plenty of opportunities. Perhaps I'll even have some nude photos to submit when I return. If there are protocols to follow in Germany I would appreciate advice.
Conservative Naturists JUST FOR LAUGHS ?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 2, 2011	http://www2.citypaper.com/eat/story.asp?id=15964 I like the cucumber kimchi best, especially when it is still a bit crispy. Chinese spicy cumber pickles are also good. But the cabbage type is a great way to spice up rice.
Conservative Naturists JUST FOR LAUGHS ?
barefreedom Posted: Apr 2, 2011	Love Kimchi! So being deep in it must be a good thing right? Christopher, do you mean you can type but not speak it? Which do you like better cabbage, cucumber or radish?
Absolute Naturists Appropriate Locations for Nudity
barefreedom Posted: Mar 31, 2011	I think anywhere that a person is notified that they will find nudity is appropriate. That could be a beach, park, resort or anywhere.
Absolute Naturists Nudist Bill of Rights - The point is?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 30, 2011	I think it is simply a confirmation among us that we have rights. That was good enough for me to sign. It also does provide them with a data base of email addresses that could be useful for legislative battles.
Absolute Naturists Movie - Blaze Starr Goes Nudist
barefreedom Posted: Mar 30, 2011	Blaze Starr lived a few blocks away from our house at that time. She allowed the neighborhood children to use her swimming pool. She was very strict about keeping her suit on while children were there. That was about fitting into the community so no idea what she felt about nudism. Is stripping being a nudist or just a profession? I think the mind set is quite different. Most strippers I have known were definitely not social nudists.
Absolute Naturists Life Long Home Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Mar 26, 2011	Well stated BareOnTheCape. I have nothing on this to add.
Absolute Naturists Nudists Wearing Their House
barefreedom Posted: Mar 25, 2011	yes, Jim it is the Nevada State law. Dan
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Mar 25, 2011	http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mABQ9X3TqoA/TDftQrvXJ7I/AAAAAAAAC_c/P7vGB99_E64/s400/swimsuit+postcard.jpg the change in swimsuits over the past 100 years leaves hope that the last few inches can be shed in less time. Although the change would threaten those who already made the skimpy suit popular. This is the fashion industry that lives on sexual titillation and media hype.
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Mar 25, 2011	This is a good website http://www.nudistlaw.com/state_laws.htm
Absolute Naturists Nudists Wearing Their House
barefreedom Posted: Mar 25, 2011	Luxor, I think it falls under state law. You would need to talk with an attorney to find out how police enforce it and how courts judge it. The question is would they regard simple public nudity as intent to affront or alarm. I think that would include a third party witness who is scared that minors would see you. Risky 28-806, Public indecency. (1) A person, eighteen years of age or over, commits public indecency if such person performs or procures, or assists any other person to perform, in a public place and where the conduct may reasonably be expected to be viewed by members of the public: (a) An act of sexual penetration; or (b) An exposure of the genitals of the body done with intent to affront or alarm any person; or (c) A lewd fondling or caressing of the body of another person of the same or opposite sex.
Absolute Naturists Nudists Wearing Their House
barefreedom Posted: Mar 24, 2011	I think the difference of "wearing your house" and "just being comfortable" at home is if you invite friends and relatives to do the same when they come over. Certainly holding a nude only party in the house would not be "wearing your house". Would you agree?
Absolute Naturists Nudists Wearing Their House
barefreedom Posted: Mar 24, 2011	I agree but it is a little more difficult in an apartment or if your state license will be revoked and your career ended if you are convicted of public lewdness. When I had my home I was naked inside and in the fenced backyard. In the front yard I wore a wrap towel. Now I hope I can find time in warm weather to go to Blacks Beach. I may look for a secluded hiking path in the nearby mountains this spring. But at my apartment I worry about eviction. Technically they require three complaints for eviction unless you violate the law which it does in this city. However I am nude in my room and on my balcony. Shades are always open because I like the sun. The two apartments facing have never said anything. When I go out in the neighborhood (walking, shopping) I am often only wearing shorts and sandals which is perfectly legal. I wish we had more reasonable laws like Europe so I could go to the park across the street to bathe in the air, sun, moonlight free of restriction.
Absolute Naturists Preferred Nudist Environments
barefreedom Posted: Mar 23, 2011	I like being at the beach nude. But I may discover new places on my trip to Germany in June. Why can European society hold together with lax nudity laws and we (obviously not us but most Americans and law makers) in the free USA are so afraid of it?
Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Mar 22, 2011	Agreed Liam. As far as the the health or body type issue is concerned, I think, it is no more related to whether you like being nude than whether you like firing a gun. Isn't someone, no matter what their physical or emotional health or somatype, making a healthy choice by just being nude?
Absolute Naturists Nudists Offended with Nudity... huh?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 22, 2011	Well stated canyonhawk. I am in full agreement.
Absolute Naturists Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists
barefreedom Posted: Mar 22, 2011	America has long led the world in obesity. Our lifestyle has now gone global. China is worried about their now obese school children who prefer fast food to stir fry. India has reported the problem growing. Food is for convenience prepackaged with addictive ingredients that boost profits and sell product. There is a social illness that has spread with affluence, sedentary activity, high stress and poor choice food production. If nudism is a matter of free choice, it is not only for the physically fit but must reflect a cross section of society. The example of a diabetic filling up on cookies is a personal condition leading to self destruction. But, such people are also part of the cross section of society. Nor are people who smoke cigarettes, known to be the greatest health risk, to be excluded. Our only commonality is we are more comfortable unfettered by clothing. Even in this many threads on the Clubhouse show our diversity on many issues including how to be nude.
Nudist Legal Discussions Oregon
barefreedom Posted: Mar 22, 2011	Oregon has been a nude friendly state. A proposed new law could change the degree. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_strip_clubs_nudists Last year an expose in the news named Portland the nation's capitol of the teen sex trade. This seems to be an attempt to control the strip and sex clubs that are the center of the expose. It seems to me that simply adding " with prurient interest" to the application of the law. would remove nonsexual activity from the law.
Absolute Naturists Living Nude... Why?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 20, 2011	Thazman, tolerance of every sort makes the world better
Absolute Naturists Living Nude... Why?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 20, 2011	Dreams, I think it is because most cultures are based on shame. This is the conditioning that produces conformity. Conformity is a major purpose of culture to make a cohesive group. Shame of self for thinking or acting outside the accepted box is the cultural control. Shame of self includes the body. It is a shame that most can not accept nudity when clothes are not needed for climate or protection. I wonder if acceptance of minimal clothes or nudity (loin clothes) could be an index of cultural as well as legal freedoms.
Nude Photographers another idea
barefreedom Posted: Mar 17, 2011	I agree with Pam. The subject "People, Nude" would limit the entries to a common subject and give it a nude theme.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy unhealthy eating habits/free day
barefreedom Posted: Mar 13, 2011	I have found that a great snack day or night is sliced raw sweet potato. It takes the edge off, makes your digestion work so you aren't hungry, and is low enough on the Glycemic index http://www.lowglycemicdiet.com/gifoodlist.html to help lose weight.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy Gluten Free-any ideas
barefreedom Posted: Mar 13, 2011	It goes to show that even something people have eaten for 10,000 years may not be so good for you. Or perhaps it is one of the many autoimmune responses we have developed in the past 50 years. Good luck with your diet.
Absolute Naturists Why do people wear clothes?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 12, 2011	A client of mine told me she admires my ability to be free (naked)as she can not. Her reason is childhood conditioning. She was teased for having visible veins on her legs. As a result she can not wear shorts or skirts even. I believe besides for protection from weather or injury (welding for example) we have in various ways been conditioned in childhood to be ashamed and overly protective of ourselves. We sometimes spend our whole lives trying to unravel childhood conditioning (body shame, eating patterns, racism, xenophobia & so many more).
Absolute Naturists Nude In Public
barefreedom Posted: Mar 11, 2011	TexasnNewd, I find it a bit sad that you had to travel so far to find freedom. How many Germans were nude in the park? Im June I had the freedom of being in the English Garden of Munich while a soccer game was being played about 70 feet away on the grass and a woman walked her dog pass me. It was very relaxing to just be able to put down a cloth and drop your clothes to lay on the lawn of the park. If they allowed it at the park next to my apartment I'd be there every sunny day I have any free time.
Nudist News AANR nudist bill of rights, did you sign?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 9, 2011	Glad to be of help Nude4Evr. The count is now 500. Pass it around to friends and keep it going.
Nude Photographers Freckles, are you a professional model?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 8, 2011	In my opinion you are among the most photogenic in the clubhouse. Just wondered if you are a professional model and if the photographer is a professional. Great Photos.
Nudist News AANR nudist bill of rights, did you sign?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 8, 2011	It is at the top of the thread. http://www.aanr.com/nudist-bill-of-rights
Nude Photographers another idea
barefreedom Posted: Mar 8, 2011	What are the guidelines for the photos. That needs to be decided so people know if they want to compete. Perhaps even stating several different categories so photos are judged against similar ones.
Nudist Communities Formation Seniors and Nude Living
barefreedom Posted: Mar 6, 2011	I prefer organizing the homes on your block to accept nudity on the block to establish a community standard. With luck it would spread.
Nudist News AANR nudist bill of rights, did you sign?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 5, 2011	Only 290 this morning :-(
Nudist News AANR nudist bill of rights, did you sign?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 4, 2011	signed and posted to Facebook. Did this just start, only 191 signatures.
New to Nudism nudist urination
barefreedom Posted: Mar 3, 2011	I don't think this is a Nudist question. Just a question about urinating. Male public urination is illegal in most big cities. Tickets and arrests are often given out at night near bars here. Personally I think that is ridiculous. It is ok to wet your pants but not to relieve yourself. Talking about Nudists it isn't about law since you are already nude (unless the law states urinating in public as the violation). In either case I think it should be simple etiquette and not law. It is polite not to point at someone when urinating and very rude to urinate towards someone. This goes back to ancient times and is simply that body waste hurdled towards someone is a definite statement. So towards a building, bush, tree, and etc. is proper but the porch if people walk below is not. When I lived in Japan my friends and I would relieve ourselves after leaving a bar in the open sewer. This was natural at the time. When Tokyo began putting sewers in pipes underground Japan began outlawing public urination. I have still seen taxi drivers run from their taxi to urinate at a wall but never saw them ticketed. Many Europeans tell me this is a strange country that has so many places, public and private, to get a drink but so few places to pee afterward. When driving and unable to hold it, I turn down a dark street to find a bush or garbage bin to urinate behind. It is a shame that I have to worry about being a public nuance in a country where there are very few public toilets and no outdoor urinals.
Conservative Naturists № 40: THE GIPPER
barefreedom Posted: Mar 2, 2011	Reagan was the first President to escape the curse put on Harrison by Tecumseh. This is often given as the source of the fate of every President elected in a year ending in "0" from 1840 through 1960. Reagan survived the attempt in 1961 that put a bullet next to his heart. Lucky for the country he survived to restore American pride and the economy following the Carter debacle.
Absolute Naturists Nude Tolerant... Good or Not Good?
barefreedom Posted: Mar 1, 2011	How could it be bad if textiles tolerated us being nude where and when we want?
Conservative Naturists DON’T ASK DON’T TELL …
barefreedom Posted: Mar 1, 2011	I just don't buy into the argument. Using the military to create a bastion against acceptance of gays in society is just not acceptable in current day America. It is about protecting our country and its changing values not providing a hide out for bigotry. As for gender separate showers, isn't it about trying to keep the rape rate down?
Absolute Naturists Nudity is Normal
barefreedom Posted: Feb 27, 2011	If it was normal it wouldn't be labeled. So no, at that point I would just be a naked person. And I wouldn't have to put my hand on my hip as I leave the house to make sure I put something on.
Absolute Naturists Would you go to a nudist resort or club if...
barefreedom Posted: Feb 25, 2011	Thanks I sent a request to them.
Absolute Naturists Would you go to a nudist resort or club if...
barefreedom Posted: Feb 24, 2011	ButtNaked, I am going to Europe in June and was thinking of visiting Cap d'agde. What time of year were you there? How were the lodgings?
Absolute Naturists Would you go to a nudist resort or club if...
barefreedom Posted: Feb 24, 2011	It would be so difficult to leave such a place. The biggest problem I see is after returning home. I'd have to keep checking when I go out that I remembered to put my pants on.
Absolute Naturists Where is the MOST natural place to be nude?
barefreedom Posted: Feb 23, 2011	At a beach
Absolute Naturists Nudist Women
barefreedom Posted: Feb 21, 2011	Does the beach count? I asked a casual friend if she wanted to go to Blacks Beach with me. She did. We spent the day on the beach the last hour or so she went topless. Water was good for me but she thought it was too cold.
Absolute Naturists So are you naked or nude? hmmmmm
barefreedom Posted: Feb 18, 2011	Like many words in English we have a sophisticated way of saying something and an unsophisticated. Sophisticated words come from French and were used by royalty. The unsophisticated words are native English used by the masses. Examples are couch and sofa or pillow, cushion. So guess which we get from the Royal French.
Progressive Nudists "Papers, Please"
barefreedom Posted: Feb 15, 2011	Actually the Bush administration had one of the worst records of arresting and deporting illegals. The Obama administration in contrast has one of the highest arrest records.
Just for fun Your "nudiform" (nude uniform)
barefreedom Posted: Feb 15, 2011	At home nothing at all. Outside where I can be nude I wear sandals. When it is warm and I'm out shopping or walking in the neighborhood I wear shorts with my sandals. At the beach nothing, not even my sandals.
Nudist Legal Discussions Floridian New Legisation-not good news for nudists
barefreedom Posted: Feb 14, 2011	It looks like the sentence structure will leave this bill to be interpreted by court cases. But it may not be enforced so strictly as it appears to me that the key issue is intent. It would be best if this was more clearly stated in the bill.
Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave
barefreedom Posted: Feb 8, 2011	I don't think it is a sexual issue at all. Most posts on the subject are either looking for advice or offering experience , preference or opinion. They come from mostly men. Men are rather new to grooming body hair. There are many issues we want to know about including should, how, method, where and etc. Yesterday there was a news segment on taking your man to be waxed for valentines day. They showed nose hairs being done talked about ears and chest. As the reporter signed off she said, "and they even do your naughty bits". Well, imagine discussing male waxing in the 90s let alone the 50's. Obviously at clubs there is no need to ask what you shave, pluck, wax as you have the answer in front of you. People assess others to decide what they want to do. Questions are asked and opinions given. Who would have thought that all over body grooming would become a male issue but it has. Natural, Trimmed, removed how do you get your hair cut?
Absolute Naturists What about deliveries
barefreedom Posted: Jan 27, 2011	Along that line.... While living in Japan, there was a knock on the door one morning. My bed was in line with the front door. I said to come in and in stepped a beautiful young Mormon woman. She looked at me (a bearded foreigner with a sheet draped over him hips down)and stopped then slowly started her spiel. We talked a little then after I thanked her and said I wasn't interested she left. I think she was more disconcerted that the voice through the door led to a foreigner than that I was naked while she was in her Sunday best.
Nude Massage Nude massage, advertising, and sex
barefreedom Posted: Jan 25, 2011	Nicely stated dbo. Massage traditionally was for the home family. Healers in ancient Greece and Asia used various forms tailored to corrective rather than maintenance done at home. I encourage everyone to share massage and I am not worried about the loss of business. I have as much as I can handle just fixing what goes beyond home care.
Nude Massage Which is your favorite oil to use for massage?
barefreedom Posted: Jan 22, 2011	I prefer Jojoba, Grape seed, rice bran with enough olive oil and/or sesame to give the needed drag for the type of massage I am doing.
Nude Massage Draping
barefreedom Posted: Jan 22, 2011	North Carolina, Texas, California and other states I have reviewed do not require draping. It is sometimes required to be provided but leaves actual draping at the choice of the client. The idea that states require draping is a hold over from local licensing that somehow thought that prostitution would be avoided if the naked body was draped. Many Therapists even assume draping is in Massage Association Codes of Ethics. Many people simply assume draping is regulated. What is regulated is that no sexual acts shall be performed during the massage. Draping is mostly an assumption based on community standards.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy favorite dish
barefreedom Posted: Jan 15, 2011	Diabetes is common in both countries. As for Sichuan food, Fire Pot is delicious.
Absolute Naturists New To Nudism
barefreedom Posted: Jan 13, 2011	Nude4evr, Massage Therapists (there are no licenses for masseuse/masseur) are nonjudgmental. We see all kinds of hair patterns, body weight, tattoos, and piercings. Don't worry about getting a massage.
Absolute Naturists Nudist T-Shirt Slogan Contest
barefreedom Posted: Jan 12, 2011	I like that BigBare.
Absolute Naturists Nudist T-Shirt Slogan Contest
barefreedom Posted: Jan 12, 2011	How about "Inside This Shirt is a Nudist"?
Absolute Naturists The limit of the law
barefreedom Posted: Jan 10, 2011	Since same gender marriage has been brought up, it poses many legal questions. There are legal requirements for marriage and they are used to file divorce. It will be interesting if people can marry same gender then it opens immigration to anyone willing to claim they want to marry through the Fiance Visa. But this thread is about going the limit of the law on nudity. I have not found any one obviously upset by me going to the local stores in shorts and sandals. But it seems many here feel it is offensive to others. I find that even though it is within our rights, it is interesting that it is regarded as improper. However it remains that the law specifically recognizes that men have the right to a bare torso while women do not. Women are harassed for breast feeding in public. But we can go anywhere shirtless unless there is a business policy against it. Yet it seems even nudists choose not to.
Absolute Naturists The limit of the law
barefreedom Posted: Jan 7, 2011	Bryan you have stated the prolem well. But what about just pushing the envelope? Some mention how they drive to a place nude and then put on pants and Tshirt. I am wondering why guys are bothering with the Tshirt when society says upper body nudity is ok for men. I've been doing my shopping at the plaza across the street from where I live, and the 7/11 in shorts and sandals. It doesn't seem that anyone is overly concerned about that. So if we like the textile free lifestyle why not at least be as textile free as we are allowed?
Questions, Help and Support New Server 1/5/11
barefreedom Posted: Jan 7, 2011	Brian it really makes a noticeable difference. Thanks for such a smooth transition.
Absolute Naturists The limit of the law
barefreedom Posted: Jan 1, 2011	That's Brattleboro, VT. But it has no clothing optional law, it just has no law regarding nudity. They just don't see the need to make a law regarding dress. Vermont is a very laissez-faire state. They did have a law banning nudity for a short time after someone complained but the council voted it out as unnecessary.
Home Nudists Awkward Moments?
barefreedom Posted: Dec 31, 2010	Laws vary city to city, so check your local laws which may not be based on 6' walls. Our laws make you guilty if they can look down into the yard. But they must complain. When I had my yard no one complained even though there was one front window they could see the backyard while passing on the front sidewalk. Also one side of the yard had only a hedge no wall. So during 16 years there I'm sure I must have been seen but not reported. Sometimes you take reasonable risk to live as you want.
Music Songs that mention nudity
barefreedom Posted: Dec 28, 2010	Interesting video. Especially interesting in the focus on the female body. There were men in the video but flashes were quick and mostly faces. It shows the currently acceptable nude image. I'm still wondering why she liked her friend better nude in the previous link. Perhaps a metaphor for without deception?
Music Songs that mention nudity
barefreedom Posted: Dec 28, 2010	Sky thanks, just listened and it was good.
New to Nudism First Time Stories
barefreedom Posted: Dec 23, 2010	I found a nice under populated beach to study at while attending Grad School. As I walked along from the road I saw that most of the people were nude. I took off my clothes and took a swim. After that I would bicycle over with a towel and my books for sun and swim while studying. It was only a 15 minute ride from my apartment in Waikiki. My wife only joined me once but was very uncomfortable being there. I also enjoyed it for the lack of a soggy suit and trapped sand. That was Black's Beach. It wasn't until decades later and my divorce that I returned to another nude beach. Strangely also called Blacks Beach.
Music Songs that mention nudity
barefreedom Posted: Dec 23, 2010	Anyone else remember this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-St3Eg27WTE I had to listen to several versions before hearing the original with the line "shed my clothes along the sand".
Nudist Legal Discussions The Skinnydippers' topfree-equality picnics in New York's public parks
barefreedom Posted: Dec 17, 2010	Peter do you know if other states have a similar law and which they are? Which states have laws specifically banning female toplessness? Is there any actual ban on male toplessness?
New to Nudism Reasons you go nude
barefreedom Posted: Dec 16, 2010	I feel more in touch with the world around me and just me. Besides it helps me develop my vitamin D. There is no artificial images just who we are.
Nude Photographers Nudity is truly ok (or not?)
barefreedom Posted: Dec 13, 2010	The problem is that when ordinary folk shy away from something like photographing the whole family nude fearing it might be misunderstood, they leave it to be dominated by the perverts. Photograph tastefully and make the pervs a minority so it becomes acceptable.
Absolute Naturists How do you shave/remove hair from your back?
barefreedom Posted: Nov 27, 2010	Waxing, do it every 6 weeks. The hair thins both in quantity and hair thickness. After awhile it isn't as noticeable. I still get it done every 6 to 8 weeks along with the shoulders and above the collar bone.
Absolute Naturists The limit of the law
barefreedom Posted: Nov 21, 2010	Laws leave us few places to enjoy the freedom of being nude. To feel the sun on our skin rather than the rub of textiles. So who goes the limit of the law? Where do you go dressed to the legal minimum. Recently I have been feeling very hypocritical about going out dressed in more. So now when I go to the nearby stores (weather permitting, and that is most of the time here) I go in sandals and a pair of shorts. So far I am the only shirtless one at the CVS, 7/11, and grocery. Most seem to ignore it. some look it make a joking comment about being cold and very few seem irritated by it.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World minimally clad in a textile world
barefreedom Posted: Nov 16, 2010	Do you ever go out into the world of textiles dressed in the least the law demands? I went across the street today in just a pair of shorts to do my shopping. I never see anyone shirtless there. There were only a few visable or audible reactions. I just couldn't put on a shirt as nice a sunny day it was. It was warm and breezy. One woman much older than me smiled and said "you make me feel cold". One woman a bit younger than me walked pass with her eyes riveted to my chest (I found that slightly arousing) lol. No one else seemed to notice. Ok so I wasn't naked but you never see shirtless guys in shorts in the plaza. I am getting more brazen about my dislike of textiles as I get older.
Nudist Communities Formation Living Nude 24/7
barefreedom Posted: Nov 12, 2010	I'd be there too. It would be so nice to not have to get dressed to go out. I wouldn't have to worry about leaving my apartment without putting on my shorts.
Progressive Nudists Electoral Postmortem - How did you deal with progressive losses on Tuesday?
barefreedom Posted: Nov 7, 2010	Yes disagreement and grand standing should not be confused with hatred. Indeed cleaning up the Congressional stables would require a Hercules.
Conservative Naturists Election Night
barefreedom Posted: Nov 7, 2010	Dumping one party doesn't indicate a sudden love for the other party. Our two party system doesn't leave much room for choice. The Republicans have a new opportunity. But we are in a period of extremism so holding the Independents and more conservative Democrats is not so likely in 2012, unless they perform to the liking of the majority of voters. Not an easy task.
Nature Lovers Nude Hiking AKA Freehiking
barefreedom Posted: Nov 6, 2010	Hard to think of a nicer way to spend a day than being out in nature naturally. Maybe that's why I seek the beach rather than the clubs.
Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave
barefreedom Posted: Nov 6, 2010	You have to search online for waxing and call until you find an esthetician that does male waxing. Search for brazilian male, make calls and you should find someone. Here is a listing http://www.europeanskinandhair.com/hairremoval.html I pay $55 for butt, crack, sack, shaft and shape. You have to be specific or they will sell you a manzilian (shaft, sack and bush) for too much. Also ask about the wax they use. For a better wax hard blue works well. Here in L.A. it is hard to schedule because the women who take males for waxing are so busy.
Absolute Naturists To shave or not to shave
barefreedom Posted: Nov 6, 2010	I like removing the hair from back, shoulders, inside of forearm, hands, butt,crack,sack, shaft and shape the bush. It makes me feel cleaner. To do this I get waxed every 5 or 6 weeks. Much smoother than shaving and makes the skin feel silky smooth. Guys over 55 may know how some hair gets extra long and white as we age. This makes me feel younger too. I don't show the "old man" hairs. Since waxing is a good exfoliant it makes it smooth and keeps it young. So waxing has extra benefits. Try it, it only hurts for a moment. Then you have the benefits. Also when you repeatedly wax the hairs get thinner and sparser. So as it grows in it is barely noticeable. Unlike shaving which can itch like crazy. I use to think I had jock itch and it drove me crazy. It was only the hairs scratching my sensitive skin on my scrotum. Since waxing...no itch.
2nd Amendment Supporters Favorite Weapon and Why?
barefreedom Posted: Nov 4, 2010	Why must arms be guns? My weapon of choice is a bokuken. That is a Japanese wooden sword used in Kendo. Very effective and not easily forgotten.
Nature Lovers Nature-lovers with a yard can create a wildlife sanctuary
barefreedom Posted: Oct 31, 2010	I had a small yard with 19 fruit trees, a koi pond and lots of wildlife visiting. Now I have a studio apt with a balcony. 11 pigeons roost there and this year 18 chicks hatched. At work I feed the seagulls at the end of shift. Usually over 100 come to grab the food. Encourage wildlife even if you are in a city. The city and the forest must meld for the benefit of all.
Spiritual Nudists Favorite spiritual practices
barefreedom Posted: Oct 23, 2010	we could start one.
Conservative Naturists OBAMANISM: HOAX AND CHAINS
barefreedom Posted: Oct 21, 2010	Yes much better for families to send their daughters abroad, to support parents who can't afford to live in a growing economy, to work as prostitutes like China does. As China moves into capitalism the safety nets have been cut and people become desperate to survive retirement.Capitalism is based on greed and requires controls which we have had many of for over a hundred years. It started with not owning slaves and child labor laws and progressed from there. It isn't about yes or no, it is about how much.
Conservative Naturists OBAMANISM: HOAX AND CHAINS
barefreedom Posted: Oct 19, 2010	No one advocates a socialist or communist state for America. Read the definitions. All modern developed economies (they are economic models not political models). Try living in a strict Capitalistic society. It is economic Darwinism. The poor die when they get ill and the rich fly to America to pay cash for Doctors. Ever notice how rich neighborhoods get roads and sidewalks fixed fast while it takes forever in poor or industrial ones? That is not socialism. The arguments are about degree not which system anymore.
New to Nudism Nude Decision
barefreedom Posted: Oct 9, 2010	There have been other threads about the need for some to maintain privacy. Usually involving family, friends, and/or employment. I just wish when the profile is private we could see the last login. No point trying to add as a friend, or comment to someone who hasn't been on the site for a year or two.
Conservative Naturists A True Patriot, Ted Nugent!
barefreedom Posted: Oct 9, 2010	Extremism in any direction is a denial of truth. Anarchy is as dangerous as over regulation.
Conservative Naturists Immigration solution Nugent style!
barefreedom Posted: Oct 9, 2010	Isn't it strange that we have a completely unsecured border up north through which the 9/11 terrorists came through and no one ever talks about it. Canadians make up the largest numbers of illegal workers in high paying professional jobs and nobody wants to talk about it. Smuggling across the Canadian border is cheap because it is easy. Smuggling across the Mexican border is several times more expensive because it is dangerous and often fails. But no one wants to talk about it. How can you have security if you only close one door and leave the front door open?
Music Greatest voice you have heard?
barefreedom Posted: Oct 4, 2010	Regarded as the best Base Baritone of the 20th century snd most political singer, I name Paul Robeson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3syulBjkng He even got a stamp in his honor. This took a long time and many petitions before the government agreed to honor him. http://www.usps.com/communications/news/stamps/2004/sr04_005.htm He sang on the front line of the Spanish Civil War to both sides. On the live recording you can hear the battle stop while both sides listened.
Nude Massage Massage benefits are more than skin deep
barefreedom Posted: Sep 23, 2010	This one is interesting too. It confirms that massage can give long term changes in peripheral blood flow. http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/acm.2009.0441
Nude Massage Massage benefits are more than skin deep
barefreedom Posted: Sep 22, 2010	Any details of the massages done? Was the light also Swedish? Esalen, Lymphatic, Tactile? Were the massages full body? Include stomach and chest which are often skipped? Light chest massage produces increased Oxytocine. Stomach massage effects blood. Perhaps you have a link to the study?
Nudist News Be healthy be nude
barefreedom Posted: Sep 19, 2010	Vitamin D deficiency is becoming common place. It is the result of the skin cancer scare. But now AMA is back tracking and advising 15 minutes a day in the sun is a good thing. http://www.ama-assn.org/cmeselec/media/00.pdf Osteoporosis is only one disease that requires sun exposure to be avoided. Without vitamin D those calcium supplements are wasted. http://www.truenudists.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=1480 A good list of problems we create by hiding from the sun. http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/publications/news/news-now/health-of-the-public/20090818vit-d.html Our children are at risk for vita-D deficiency. Don't take supplements or change diet for vitamin D, just go nude.
Just for fun What's the use
barefreedom Posted: Sep 19, 2010	If you wonder what skin is for, Alan Sherman had the answer years ago. http://www.rhapsody.com/allan-sherman/allan-in-wonderland/skin/lyrics.html
Just for fun How often are you naked?
barefreedom Posted: Sep 7, 2010	For the Labor Day weekend I only put on shorts and shirt to go out for about 2.5 hours in three days. The rest of the time I relaxed at home in the buff. Nice holiday.
Conservative Naturists Shouldn't nudists be Libertarians?
barefreedom Posted: Sep 4, 2010	I guess there is a case for nudists being libertarians. After all in a way aren't we minimalists.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Labor Day Weekend
barefreedom Posted: Sep 3, 2010	Still planning to go? Anyone else going to be there?
Conservative Naturists AZ-SB1070
barefreedom Posted: Sep 3, 2010	Not calling anyone lazy. In developed nations the youth is raised to expect more than menial hard labor jobs. As a result every developed nation uses workers from less developed nations to fill such jobs that allows them to make more than possible for them in their country. Go to any of the developed countries and you will see this. We use to depend on farm boys from the farms for this, but we no longer have farm children swarming to the cities for jobs. The poor or uneducated that fill this need in China are better provided for by welfare and other programs.
Conservative Naturists Betraying Our Dead
barefreedom Posted: Aug 31, 2010	Just an inflammatory statement with no explanation. What's the point? Anyone can rant. Most of it simply repeats a declaration over and over that we forget the dead. Just accusatory without any substance. Examples are meant to mislead rather than explain. Extremism from either side is not a solution.
Conservative Naturists AZ-SB1070
barefreedom Posted: Aug 28, 2010	Sure I see no problem getting tough and enforcing the immigration laws we already have on the books. But with it should be approval of a temporary unskilled working visa like all other industrialized nations have. A legitimate way should be found to fill the jobs few here want rather than ignoring the problem.
Home Nudists NUDE IN MOTEL
barefreedom Posted: Aug 23, 2010	You mean people actually buy and bring clothes to change into when they are alone in a hotel room? Seems wasteful and eccentric.
Nudist News Whitakers Chocolate Commercial
barefreedom Posted: Aug 14, 2010	unusual, well done use of nudity in a commercial. It is even more obvious than this one that was banned. Where has this commercial been shown or did it ever make it to television? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnUEcG4iH34&feature=related
Home Nudists NUDE IN MOTEL
barefreedom Posted: Aug 11, 2010	If you are inside the room why would you keep your clothes on? Unless of course the window is jammed open and there is a blizzard outside.
Spiritual Nudists I am a nudist......but why?
barefreedom Posted: Aug 10, 2010	I just can't stand being wrapped up like a mummy. I'm here to live to for dying. Our skins are respiratory, excretory, sensory organs. I want to feel the air around me and let my skin do what it is meant for rather than suffocate because it is culturally expected. I would not have enjoyed Victorian England. As a health professional I see how the people who expose their skin the least have the most skin problems, as well as, other physical issues.
Nude Photographers Nudity is truly ok (or not?)
barefreedom Posted: Aug 7, 2010	As others stated we have many relationships with nonnudists. Some of these are highly offended by nudity. There are also the employment laws that control our body exposure in the workplace. Of course if there is no dress code you could try walking into work nude someday and see if a complaint is made. No complaint no sexual harassment warning. As HR I have gotten complaints for women's cleavage and both men and women arriving with shorts on. Years ago I walked in to a government office. One of the secretaries saw me at the counter and got up from her desk to help me. As she came closer I saw that the open knit pullover was all she wore above her skirt, leaving her upper body fully visable. Now that was service with a smile. Everyone was smiling about it. Not a photo but a permanent picture in my mind. I think we worry too much about the other person's reaction to nude photos. I always kept the full nude ones separate. Now they are on my memory card in my camera. If I take a photo of a friend and hand over the camera to look and they go looking at my photos I'll probably find out how accepting of nudity they are. Anyway, after many years, I am more open about being a nudist. Many friends, family and coworkers know that my preferred attire is no attire.
Home Nudists ARRESTED: MAN NUDE INSIDE OWN HOME
barefreedom Posted: Aug 7, 2010	Not unless she had to enter the property to get a view.
Home Nudists Skin Care...
barefreedom Posted: Aug 6, 2010	It is used in several massage modalities to stretch and restore elasticity to the fascia that is the layer between skin and muscle. simply take a pinch of skin in one or both hands and lift. Slowly stretching it away from the body. It should be held for several minutes and then move over a bit and repeat. As elasticity is regained the skin is tighter and the body more flexible.
Home Nudists Skin Care...
barefreedom Posted: Aug 6, 2010	Skin pulling helps too as it returns elasticity to the skin and the fascia below it.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Labor Day Weekend
barefreedom Posted: Aug 5, 2010	I should be getting there about then also.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Labor Day Weekend
barefreedom Posted: Aug 4, 2010	I think Sunday will be the most likely day.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Labor Day Weekend
barefreedom Posted: Aug 4, 2010	Anyone going to Blacks Beach in La Jolla on the holiday? I enjoyed my first time there a month ago and thinking of escaping the textile world on the holiday. The sand is clean and powdery and I hope the surf is comfortable to swim again. Might any of the staff members be there to verify?
Nudists Who Eat Healthy share what you eat.
barefreedom Posted: Jul 25, 2010	It is about what you eat since so much we eat is highly processed and uses complex carbs rather than simple. Research shows this is one of the greatest health dangers we face.
Home Nudists ARRESTED: MAN NUDE INSIDE OWN HOME
barefreedom Posted: Jul 25, 2010	Our city has a law that makes it illegal to be nude at home or in yard if it is possible for someone outside to see you. I never had a problem but the threat was always there. They even had an inspector that would go through the alleys jumping up to peer over walls to see if there were violations. It is sad that this country has become so burdened by laws that they hinder the liberty and pursuit of happiness they are meant to protect
Home Nudists Skin Care...
barefreedom Posted: Jul 25, 2010	Perhaps you use the wrong oils. Jojoba is very nourishing and will soak in quickly. To moisturize try honey, water and aloe gel. Allow it to soak in or soak in it by pouring some honey and aloe into the bath. if you haven't been out in the sun for awhile this mix will help you recover from sunburn.
Nude Massage Nude massage, advertising, and sex
barefreedom Posted: Jul 24, 2010	Well stated FP. Although in California it isn't a matter of less pay but whether the club wants to break state law and have a person working on premises without professional insurance. Usually a CMT (CA State Certified) or LMT (local licensed) can work at businesses and the rest work "under the table" doing outcall. Those that are not certified or licensed often face a more difficult time establishing themselves as they are often sought for illicit massage. For all Massage/Bodywork the reputation and personal referrals are the most important advertising.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Blacks Beach
barefreedom Posted: Jul 11, 2010	People were nude yesterday from the gliderport path to around the North bend. The park rangers kept driving up and down but I didn't see any problems. the water was great for swimming and people were hiking the beach nude as far as I could see. one lady only had a backpack and tennis shoes. I don't know how far she hiked that way.Very nice day and the water was great.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Blacks Beach
barefreedom Posted: Jul 11, 2010	Blacks Beach is a beautiful place. Missed the skinnydip record but found a beach I want to go back to. Surprisingly the water was not too cold. The sand was almost a powder it was so fine. The freedom of being nude at the beach was something I hadn't enjoyed for years. A very nice day.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Blacks Beach
barefreedom Posted: Jul 10, 2010	Leaving now for Blacks Beach. If anyone else is any staff members going there today? If so, can I get verified for this site?
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Blacks Beach
barefreedom Posted: Jul 5, 2010	The count for the record will be at noon, right?
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Skinny Dip Record July 10th
barefreedom Posted: Jul 5, 2010	No problem, what fits in my bag to carry down will fit in it going back.
Just for fun Strange Tattoo
barefreedom Posted: Jul 4, 2010	Chinese or Japanese letters are often very funny. They often are put on backwards. I heard a man explain to someone that the tattoo on his arm meant strong as a bull. I couldn't hold back the laughter which annoyed him and he wanted to know what was so funny. I'm lucky the big biker didn't hit me when I told him it meant Bull Shit.
Home Nudists Do you ever do backyard naturism?
barefreedom Posted: Jul 3, 2010	Sounds good to me. Nothing meshuginah about that statement as far as I can see.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Skinny Dip Record July 10th
barefreedom Posted: Jul 3, 2010	Thanks for the info.
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Skinny Dip Record July 10th
barefreedom Posted: Jul 3, 2010	Never been to Blacks Beach or anywhere else that leaves the textile world behind in many years. Would like to meetup. I don't know the ropes. How is the temp on the beach there? What do you recommend bringing? A bag for clothes, need money for anything, bring water, help me with the little things so it is a fun day.
New to Nudism Erections
barefreedom Posted: Jul 2, 2010	TexasnNewd, I think that is the right attitude. As nudists shouldn't we be accepting of natural body response? It should be no big deal. I don't know why so many are in denial. We are not talking lewd only natural response. Thanks for the information on that French city. Ever been there? Is the place worth it as a vacation destination?
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Blacks Beach
barefreedom Posted: Jun 28, 2010	thanks for that clarification. I hope I can be part of the Skinny Dip count. Now I need to decide where to join in. How do you like the Terra Cotta Inn? My ex didn't let me participate in the naturist lifestyle outside of home once we came to California. Now I'm trying to start in again. I find it much healthier.
Just for fun Quotable Quotes
barefreedom Posted: Jun 28, 2010	Two good Will Rogers' quotes, but of course all Will Rogers quotes are good. ?Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction.? ?You've got to go out on a limb sometimes because that's where the fruit is.?
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Summer Festival at Glen Eden
barefreedom Posted: Jun 28, 2010	July 10th is the day for the World Skinny Dip record in the Glen Eden pool. Glen Eden is closer than Black Beach (also part of the Skinny Dip REcord Day) and I've never been to either. Years ago, when I lived in Hawaii, I use to go to Black's beach on Oahu. Never been to a nude beach or club in California. So persuade me (and others). When is the last time citations were issued at Black Beach?
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Blacks Beach
barefreedom Posted: Jun 28, 2010	Glen Eden is closer and I've never been to either. Years ago, when I lived in Hawaii, I use to go to Black's beach on Oahu. Never been to a nude beach or club in California. So persuade me (and others). When is the last time citations were issued at Black Beach?
So. Cal Nudists in a Textile World Blacks Beach
barefreedom Posted: Jun 27, 2010	That's the day Glen Eden needs everyone's help to break the world skinny dipping record.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy share what you eat.
barefreedom Posted: Jun 26, 2010	Having spent over 30 years in the food industry, I recommend minimally processed foods with few additives. The problem is you often don't know actual sodium content or antimicrobials since some are not required to be listed and frankly companies cheat. Don't worry about hormones in chicken because USDA doesn't allow it. Using it in advertising is just making them look good. nor are preservatives needed in cooked chicken. Don't waste time on free range because it is the intent to let them outside if they live to full grown (few do) not that they ever were let into a yard. As to what do I eat? Vegetables first (spinach, kale, soy, carrots, celery, cabbage....) next meat (lamb, pork, tuna, sardines .....) then fruit & berries(apples,mango, papaya, mulberry, blackberry raspberry....) grains and nuts (almonds, walnuts, pistacios, cereal....) So many ways to fix them mmmmmm
Just for fun What do animals really think?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 26, 2010	I think they just feel sorry for us for having useless pelts that require being augmented by clothes. I think cats and dogs are more at ease meeting an unclothed stranger the first time.
Just for fun Boxer, briefs, or commando?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 26, 2010	That's why I never wear boxers. Feels really wierd to have two layers of pants. Also I might forget I don't have outer pants and walk out in my boxers, lol.
Home Nudists Do you ever do backyard naturism?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 20, 2010	WOW! that sounds like a great place.
New to Nudism Erections
barefreedom Posted: Jun 20, 2010	I personally don't understand why an erection if not connected to being overtly sexual is such a no no. If it happens naturally what is the big deal. Usually such erections are not full and last just a short time. What happened after the seventies when an erection on the beach stimulated by seeing a lady you were attracted to was simply referred to as a "natural compliment"? It often brought a smile, a thank you or was simply ignored. Why are people so uppity about a simple rise in blood pressure. When I was younger a mild breeze as I lay on the beach could cause a half rise and the penis often rises and moves while relaxed. No one back then suggested covering it. Breezes, cold water, and other things make women's nipples get erect. Should we have them cover up? And yes I do think it is the same since I am talking about nonsexual erections.
you're friends aren't nudists?! Friends finding out
barefreedom Posted: Jun 19, 2010	Many know I am more comfortable nude, others it never comes up. It is like "does everyone know if you prefer dogs or cats?". Most prefer not to know too much. A few are fine not making me dress if they come over and a couple drop their garb on entering.
Home Nudists Do you turn the heat up in the winter so you can go nude at home?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 19, 2010	Here in SoCal I don't use the heater or A/C more than 5 days each a year. We have perfect weather for the scanty human pelt.
Home Nudists Do you ever do backyard naturism?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 19, 2010	That is a good idea for anyone handy with needle and thread. Post pics to show how those come out.
Home Nudists Do you ever do backyard naturism?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 17, 2010	When I had my house there was a block wall around three sides of the backyard and a hedge on the other. I would garden and care for my pond nude. To go out front I had towel wraps with velcro fasteners I'd throw on. Those are great for keeping near the door.
Just for fun Boxer, briefs, or commando?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 11, 2010	Preference is nothing but when wearing regular pants the chaffing requires protection and I wear a thong (if the thread up the crack bothers the fit isn't right). The Jockey microfiber ones were great but they stopped making it. Next best is the Calvin Klien thong. Come on guys buy a few and keep this one from being discontinued.
Pacific Specific HELLO! ¡HOLA! SAWATDI! ALOHA! KONNICHI-WA! G?DAY!
barefreedom Posted: Jun 7, 2010	Living now in California and lived on the Aloha islands as well as Nippon. I've traveled in South Korea and China. No argument about the diversity of the Pacific Rim. I look forward to experiencing more. The nice think about California is you can have breakfast in China, lunch in Thailand and Korean BBQ for dinner within 20 minutes of home.
Pacific Specific Places to be nude in Asia
barefreedom Posted: Jun 5, 2010	Asia isn't the region of change. Nudity stays to the bath which is communal and in some places conjugal. In L.A. we are lucky to have many Korean Spa's. The hot bath, sauna and rough scrub is better than any massage spas. Americans don't even know what exfoliation is compared to Northern Asia Scrubs. I wish with all the parks beaches and the humid heat, that nudity would become popular. But that seems to be another crazy American custom so we will continue to sweat away in long sleeves and long pants even on vacation.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy vegan or vegatarian
barefreedom Posted: Jun 5, 2010	Omnivore is what our teeth and guts were created for and mnivore I stay! The secret isn't to eliminate one thing or another but to achieve a healthy balance with variety.
Nudists Who Eat Healthy favorite dish
barefreedom Posted: Jun 5, 2010	How do you pick a favorite dish? There are so many. Let's see.... Chinese Spicy Beef Tendon Noodle soup is fantastic. Japanese Onigiri is a special treat. Grilled Veggies including carrots and roasted beets yummy. Lamb stew with french bread is great in winter. Zaru Soba in summer is cool and light. Anyone like the Korean stretchy noodles in soy soup?
Spiritual Nudists Spiritual backgrounds
barefreedom Posted: Jun 5, 2010	I am Jewish, more culturally than religously. I do not subscribe to any one religion. I do find things in each I agree with. I am mostly into spiritual growth and closely follow yoga more than others. My Grandfather had on his desk while I was a child, a sign stating "any religion that causes men to be good is worthy of respect". Religions are institutionalized spiritual paths. Follow what suits you and gives you comfort. I do believe we all get to the same place eventually. At that point I don't think it matters which path you followed.
Nature Lovers What's your favorite or most memorable vista you've seen ever seen?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 5, 2010	Moving through time and place is always wonder filled. Each time and space has its own spirituality. I have traveled the U.S., Canada, Mexico, Japan, Korea and China. It is all unique, every moment is unique. I would love to see a bit of every country in the world and meet the people.
Home Nudists How much of the time are you nude at home
barefreedom Posted: Jun 5, 2010	As soon as I get to my apartment the clothes come off. I am just not fully relaxed unless nude. Traveling with friends I appreciate the occassional one who is not insistant on me wearing shorts to sleep. I just tell them I prefer sleeping nude but will wear shorts or underwear if they are not comfotable with it. Usually shorts are asked for, its ok.
Home Nudists What do you put on when get a knock at the door?
barefreedom Posted: Jun 5, 2010	I just grab a towel or slip on a pair of shorts to answer the door. As for windows I keep blinds open but don't make a point of facing the neighbors. At my previous house or current apartment I never received a complaint. When I was in a house I'd put on the towel wrap to go out front, garden or talk with neighbors. Backyard gardening and sunning I had the wrap handy if neighbors/friends dropped over.

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