| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| Smokey, I believe owning animals is a privilege. And, just like children who cannot care for themselves, must be cared for by responsible "owners"/parents. Like you, abuse an animal or child and I HOPE your life will become a living hell in prison. Otherwise I just don't care about the abusers' welfare. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I haven't joined any chats so far, though I did try once. And, due to my wife's lack of understanding about all this I'll have little opportunity at least for the foreseeable future. However, SB, I like the idea of topics which people can choose to join in or not. CO, I think the topic of "To Shave or Not to Shave" is a good one which could possibly generate a lot of interest. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| J.P., I like the mention of a body-positive world in the Los Angeles message. At least on the surface I'd say nudism is being used by WNBR and any others, such as PETA, where participants are nude or nearly nude. It's definitely an attention getter. I also believe anything which presents nudism in a positive light (away from nude = sex mindset) is good. The use of temporary tattoos and handouts/pamphlets promoting nudity is also a great idea, IMHO. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think if they announced it matter of factly and demonstrated a practice of non-sexual nudity and a healthy way of living it could be helpful in prmoting nudism/naturism as mainstream. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yes, FireProf. Exactly the photo you asked about, right at the top of your profile page when I clicked on your ID. The same is true for your's nuderunner. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, I'm likin' the nude donut photo. Great tan, big cuppa joe and almost NO donut remaining. Good tactical use of the computer desk too. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| As still relative newbie to nudism (almost three years now) and a latebloomer (will be 64 on my next birthday) I may not really be qualified to address this issue. However, it does seem to me if the owner opened Fawlty Towers to nudism strictly as a business proposition with no idea or real interest in understanding nudism, particularly social nudism, he was probably set up for failure from te beginning. Early reviews seemed promising but either the hotel was not promoted well enough as a naturist destination or nude guests just simply were never made to feel welcome/comfortable there. Perhaps there was too much leering or awkwardness on the part of the staff at the sight of seeing nudity all around them. Again, perhaps it just didn't offer amenities comparable to the price. I'm sorry to learn FT resorted to its former textile status, giving guests one less place to enjoy nudist freedom in a friendly atmosphere. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| Congratulations Oregon. Hopefully she'll continue to enjoy nudism on some level and will continue to accept and supprt your love of nudity. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Happy Memorial Day to all our veterans with a special thank you to those who gave all so we may live free. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| I hope you'll enjoy the experience, NudeJosh and have many more pleasant visits. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thanks FireProf. And, to you, Sunbunny, I suppose there perhaps is an exhibitionist element to what I've done but as explained by FireProf it gives a sense of being nude but does allow for a quick coverup if required. At any rate it hasn't happened in quite a long time now since my wife hid or threw away the robe so I can no longer wear it to/from the mailbox or anywhere else. And, I have no see-through clothing so now when I go out of the house I'm covered in opaque shorts at a minimum since I usually do go out shirtless to check mail, etc. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I do recall reading years ago of an elderly lady who I believe lived at Deer Park (Devore, California) who stated she no longer went nude due to her appearance, caused by age, but loved to be around younger nudists who gave her a greater sense of joy because of their freedom. I too think a nudist resort should be a place where at least the majority would be nude, particularly those who reside there or have been longtime visitors. However, I gues there can be exceptions such as the lady who always stayed clothed while visiting with her nudist husband. At least she undersood and accepted his choices. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| Olivia, I'm not sure what happened to my original comments (maybe I forgot to hit "Post Message") but just wanna say I agree with you. While I personally would like to go nude 24/7 and be accepted by society when in public settings I know it's never gonna happen and I'm covered far more than nude, in part because my wife is opposed to open nudity ( I can go nude behind closed doors, such as here at the computer, and sleep nude but she expects me to at least wear shorts around the house and NOT sunbathe nude in the backyard). And, of course, I'm required to wear a uniform at work and clothing, of some sort to/from the job site on the LAS vEgas Strip. I don't have to worry about my job. In fact, I told my employer, via a letter suggesting opening a nudist resort/casino, I am a nudist. The reply was a letter of thanks and explanation of why it can't be done due to conflicting laws and ordinances. Bottom line, Olivia and all others, if you choose to wear tattoos or piercings, or to not live 24/7 I just DON'T CARE and am happy to count you as a fellow naturist/nudist,textilist or whatever way you decide to identify yourself. No, I don't shout from the rooftops I'm a nudist but, personally, don't care who knows I am and have shared the fact with a few friends and coworkers, none who've joined me but a couple of the ladies have expressed interest in learning more, particularly the mother of a 2-year old who likes to go nude at home and allows the daughter to do so as well. Unfortunately her husband is the one opposed to social nudity in their case. I also think people should not be judged, based upon their tattoos and piercings. As in your case, they cover scars or have personal meaning to you. Smokey is another example of a an outstanding citizen and former public servant, like you currently are Olivia, who is also made to feel unwelcome due to your personal choices. I truly hope neither of you will leave this site nor these forums. While I'm not a member of the tattoos and piercings forum (I have neither) I have read the comments there and understand how you're made to feel unwelcome by the rules makers. I just recently watched a documentary on Cap d-Agde, France where all are allowed to go nude anywhere and everywhere. A comment was made by the reporter and/or an interviewee about the wear of tattoos and genital piercings with no one showing undue concern. Keep in mind, at least when the video was made, Cap d'Agde (perhaps 2000) is/was family friendly and children were certainly present but no one was condemned for their personal groming or decorative choices. It seems we Americans still have much to learn. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Why not let people do as they wish as long as it does not cause harm to anyone else? Certainly, going nude or clothed does not endanger the safety of others. I am one of those who has stated my desire to live in a clothing optional world, where people go clothed or nude as they wish without anyone being concerned. And, yes, I do realize OldFrog and FireProf, it's NEVER gona happen but can't help but long for it and to think how much better it would be for society in general if people didn't react negatively to nudity, tattoos, piercings, etc. But, again it's NEVER gonna happn and someone's always going to be made to feel uncomfortable due to the reactions of others, usually the majority. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, I too feel you're within your rights to go nude within the confines of your own backyard and yes, if the neighbors don't want to see you naked they should not look into your backyard. I too have walked to/from the mailbox and to put trash on the curb minimally dressed, letting my robe hang open but always rady to quickly cover up if I sensed others were present or should certainly turn onto my street. I also have enjoyed driving while nude and never did so with the intent of being seen. And, like you, if I ever thought it was possible I might be seen by someone while sitting at a traffic light, for example, would strategically cover myself until in motion again. I too elieve exhibitionism is more a textile practice, flashing unsuspecting souls for the shock value or, perhaps, sexual gratification and would likely, among men, occur while they are sporting an erection. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Having friends who are members of the Screen Actors Guild (they've participated inextras in a few movies filmed here in Las Vegas) I do believe the director's explanation of full nudity and the associated costs. My friends joined SAG toget better treatment and compensation for their participation in those movies they participated in. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yes, I would. I told her I'm a nudist and she acceoted it, though she said "even trees wear clothes (leaves)" so i know she'd never want to attend but did suggest I go to a nearbuy resort during my last visit with her. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree. The clothing designs are why I say textiles are more sexualized than are nudists. It's the designs which are intended to attract attention, unlike full nudity where all is visible and therefore, become less prominent (probably not the best word choice). What I mean is, clothing is intended to provoke sexual thoughts - the desire to see "what's hidden" whereas among nudists all is readily viewable and no longer a mystery. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too think the textile world is more focused on sexuality than are nudists. I believe much of the clothing points to this fact. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I've shared the fact I'm a nudist with my mother, a few friends, and some coworkers. My wife "outed" me to our daughter over a year ago and she's okay with it as well, as long as I don't go nude in her nor the grandbaby's presence. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| No, clothing is not oppressive. At least on the surface, some people appear to actually enjoy wearing them versus being naked. But, I do agree laws which say we MUST be clothed in most circumstances certainly are oppressive. Give us the freedom to go clothed or unclothed as we desire. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too think it's a matter of how much time one has to use the facilities. It's not necessarily being cheap to want reduced costs, particularly if one can use the facilities only on a very limited basis. Let's face it, in today's economy, a dollar just doesn't stretch as far as it used to. Also, the amenities and their upkeep help determine value for one's money. If well maintained and appealing to a wide range of interssts I think more people are willig to spend the money. But, if limited nor well maintained, probably not. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| What are the chances the ANNR GAT is going to put forth a "professional" petition if, as you said FireProf, you can't get the AANR staff to reply to a simple request to correct your signature? As you stated, you finally gave up after no response over several months. It's beginning to seem, more and more, AANR's number one goal is money collection, via memberships. I do receive my monthly Bulletin since joining but it seems they do very little else to actively promote nudism/naturism. Jim | |
| Questions, Help and Support |
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| I just verified FireProf's badge is back as of 5:23 AM, 04/21/13. Jim | |
| Questions, Help and Support |
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| I have to agre, simply participating in forums or groups alot certainly shouldn't qualify one for a title such as Community Leader. I have posted quite a lot over the last couple of years I've beem on this site but do ot believe I can or should wear the title of Community Leader when I've done nothing to actually further the cause of social nudity. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thank you, SunBunny, for saying it so well. you're right, hiding behind high fences to NOT offend the general public sends the message nudism is somehow wrong and inappropriate, practiced only by "those people" who obviously are strange and somehow mentally unbalanced perverts. I certainly don't view nudity in that way and have said quite often here and elsewhere I wish society would accept nudity asd normal so nudists and non-nudists could intermingle anywhere/anytime without anyone becoming offended by the mere presence of a person wearing clothes or not. Yes, clubs/resorts do have a vested interest in keeping nudism behind walls and fences where members and visitors must pay to enter and participate, much like any other venue where people go for entertainment and such. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'm currently discusing this issue with a friend in her 30s who is very active with internationlyn. She blames the American attitude, particularly among the "old" folks for not supporting activitis to attract youth, other than Sunsport which just sponsored a spring bash for thew college crowd. There just aren't oportunitis for young people to be active - dances, active sports/recreation, etc. She said money and time really aren't the issue. Hopefully, she'll decide to post her views here so you get the ful gst of what she has to say, including the opportunity to have her defend her points of view. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| In my case, it's a two-pronged issue. My wife told me the other day she wasn't "raised that way". She did say maybe in her next life she will go nude (she's Buddhist and does believe in reincarnation) however it's NOT going to happen in this lifetime. Secondly, there's the issue of our unmaried daughter and grandaughter living with us. There's the fear once she can talk the grandaughter will tell other "my grandpa goes naked" and could lead to her being removed from our home by child protective services for her protection, of course. I can't seem to have a rational discussion with either my wife or daughter about this issue and so am trying to keep the peace by staying clothed except when alone or when sleeping. My wife will not sleep nude, nor will our daughter but at least my wife accepts me sleeping nude as long as the grandaughter is not in the same bed. Olivia, I agree we as adults should not tell others what we may or may not do but I guess I've given my wife too much control over the issue. It was easier before our daughter returned home and before the grandaughter came into our life but since then she has become very adamant about no nudity in their presence. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| My wife has become less and less tolerant. We've been married 40 years January 6. i've been a nudist for about three years now. only during the first year was she at least okay wit me going ude at home. Now, especially with our daughter and grandaughter here, shestays on me all the time to stay covered. I'm trying to get along but it's tough when all I want to do is be free to go clothes-free. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Breastfeeding in natural AND normal, far more prevalent among less advanced nations, I'm sure. It was the common way to feed one's baby before the development of, I'm sure, first the breadt pump and then formula. Too many so-called adults in this nation need to grow up and accept natural acts, such as breastfeeding. If it were a young woman "losing" her top I'm sure it'd be widely accepted and viewed but not a mother feeding her child, heaven forbid. How stupid!! Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Yes, Jim, far more than you might think. I, for one, have to limit my nude time to periods when the daughter is not around. My wife is okay with me being nude in the bedroom/bath but wants me to cover my genitals and butt elsewhere, unles I'm alone. My wife also doesn't want me to sunbathe nude in our backyard for fears I might be seen by the neighbors. I've never had anyone say anything about me doing so, except my wife. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Honestly, I'm comfortable with either term and also use them interchangeably, as well as naturist if it seems more appropriate. But, I'd say most ladies probably do prefer the term nude since they may feel it sounds more dignified. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I say yes, it would be better for society if nudity were accepted as a right and practiced by those who desire to do so. Of course, people should have the right to go clothed also, if they desire. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I say no to removing the jewelry. I'd be a bit more inclined to leave the dog at home, much as one must do in many other environments but really question the rule. The jewelry cannot harm anyone else and though I'm sure the same is true about the dog things can and do happen even among the most gentle creatures. Jim ----- From Olivia, thanks for the opinion Jim, and I often do leave the dog at home, except she is with me when I drive cross country, so not an option. But I'm just saying, I don't agree with a breed ban, they should say leave non-social, barkers or aggressive dogs home, or else all dogs. Yesterday my neighbors huge mastiff jumped on me from behind while I was at my mailbox and bruised my back. My dog has never acted aggressively toward a person or animal. | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Olivia, I agree with you on all points, particularly about body jewelry, which I don't have nor want. It is quite appropriate to teach children to accept people as they are and not try to convince them because a person looks, dresses, or adorns their person(clothed or unclothed) they are to be looked at differently than anyone else. I've neve attended a landed resort but I have read many times of restrictions which would allow a married but unaccompanied male such as myself from being welcomed, just like persons with tattoos or piercings. It's time to get over the taboos and welcome all who behave appropriately. And, the same should apply to dog owners as long as they act responsibly and take proper care to attend to their pets. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I do love being nude as much as possible. But, as stated by others, I'm not stupid to the point of risking going to jail or being listed as mentally challenged as it were. Like you MarcNude, I too wish nudity were a right and everyone could choose to be clothed or nude as they wish without causing shock or discomfor to those around them. Then, I'd be nude every moment unless the weather dictate I don the minimum amount of clothing to be comfortable. Like SunBunny, I don't think there can ever be too much nudity for a true nudist. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I say yes to the pageants, not to make anyone feel bad but because it can/should promote healthy/friendly competition. Not everyone is beautiful, whether male or female and so not everyone can compete on an equal footin. It's a life lesson which political correctness seems to have pushed to the rear. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBuny, I think you're right. Far too many of us only act if/when things affect us directly. Yes, nudism does get lumped in with all other crime labels, even though there is nothing inherently illegal (at least there should not be) about being nude. There are certainly enough laws to safeguard one's safety, etc without adding more laws or cracking down on those who simply want the freedom to enjoy recreation clothes-free. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Many good ideas here but I think Fiesco's suggestion, followed by FireProf's, to talk to the neighbors is the most sensible. It certainly could sae lots of money if they answered, "No, it doesn't bother me at all, it's your property and so do as you like". The idea of a place to hang light wraps is a great one as well. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I've read about this issue on other sites, including AANR. It seems, as I understood it, law enforcement will patrol the area for inappropriate, illegal activities during thew week while closing it to law abiding, respectful nudists. I certainly hope there's not a coming backlash by authorities against nudism. Nudism, as practiced by the majority, is not illegal nor inappropriate and we should not let perverts and lawbreakers spoil it for us. It does seem as though it is time for nudists to stand united for our rights to enjoy the outdoors naturally witout harassment by lawbreakers and government officials. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Sorr SB. I was the one who brought up tattoos here, obviously getting it mixed up with another area. I rescanned the earlier posts here and found no other reference to tattoos. Still, I stand by my points of view on fantasy nudists AND tattoos. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| While I have no problem with wealthy people who have earned it and enjoy living well I would be very much bothered by a boorish attitude by making it clear through their self-absorbed talk and actions they believe they somehow "outrank" me and others like me. However, anyone, rich or poor, who dominates a onversation by talking only about themselves are a boor and to be avoided. Olivia, I have learned tattoos are very often a personal thing with deep meaning for many who have gotten them. The clearest example for me is a supervisor who has a tattoo covering her left shoulder and upper arm, made up of flowers which represent family members. Obviously, it is very personal and has very deep meaning to her. I believe all, rich poor, tattooed or tattoo free have the same rights to live as they choose as long as they don't infringe upon others. Therefore, I just don't care. Jim --- From Olivia: Jim, I posted a note on your profile. Glad you are posting here so you can see the differnce in attitudes. | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I will agree with you, SB, if people only go nude to such activities Fantasy Fest,Burning Man, B-2-B, or WNBR merely to be seen nude and then refer to a full-time textile existence they would qualify as fantasy nudists. True nudists live or at least desire to live nude as much as possible and don't care whether they're viewed nude by others or not. Otherwise, they're actually acting more as flashers than true nudists. As far as tattoos, you may wish to read Olivia's post under Nudist who Just Don't Care - Status. Jim | |
| Naturists and Sustainable Living |
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| Well said, Olivia. I too believe naturism involves far more than simply being nude in nature - it's a life philosophy or way of living in which one cares for the environment. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I, for one, applaud you and your employee's attitude Jmaxn1, on the fact you're able to go nude in her presence without the fear of being charged with sexual harasment others have mentioned here. I agree, it could go terribly wrong if there were anyone beyond the two of you and someone, for whatever reason, expressed offense at the sight of seeing you nude or even overheard your discussion on the subject. However, it seems to be a non-issue between the two of you. Congratulations. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Since I've been to neither event perhaps I'm not qualified to really address the question, however it does seem Fantasy Fest and WNBR have a lot in common - nude or partially nude peteracting with clothed people. I'm one who has expressed the desire to be able to go nude anywhere/anytime, not to be gawked at by clothed people but merely to live in a society where everyone is accepted as long as their behavior does not threaten others. The body paint seems like a compromise, in a sense, to not offend textiles with the site of totally bare bodies, as if they're still somehow clothed. However, it also gives the naturists/nudists an opportunity to express themselves by "wearing" colors, patterns, etc. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Since my wife is a non-nudist I don't think it will ever happen but believe I'd have no jealousy about her eing seen nude by others. After all, if I participate in nude social situations I must expect to see and be seen by other nudists, male and female , and would have to expect the same for my wife and daughter too, in fact. I have personally never leered at any woman, clothed or nude, and think it is very rude and inappropriate for anyone to do so. I do, of course, admire beauty and will look but not to the point, I hope, of ever making anyone feel uncomfortable. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree, MarcNude, "let the nudism spirit fly high". Yes, though we share the commonality of nudism we're all individual with some having the freedom, or desire, to live free far more than others. I, for one, wish I could live as freely nude as SB and some others here. On the other hand, there are those who are secret nudists and don't want to share the experience outside their own domains and/or resorts. As I've stated before, I'd like to live in a society where we could go nude if we wished without upsetting anyone, including those who desire not to go nude but would accept my right to do so without acrimony. I still must go out to work, shop, etc and, therefore, must don clothing when "leaving the house" whereas those who have the good fortune to live within a nudist community may have at least a limited opportunity to shop while nude. Bottom line, I guess my attitude really hasn't changed but I do enjoy the discussions very much as I contunue to grow and learn. Jim Jim | |
| New to Nudism |
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| One of the best accounts of urination I ever read involved a nudist male and female who were shopping at, I believe a Sam's Club store. Thwy were involved in conversation when he had to go to the restroom. Without batting an eye she simply followed him there and continued the conversation. Upon exiting he noted to her what had occurred and she responded it was no big deal. I can't recall the exact exchange but she was right. If Americans, and others too, would get over their discomfort with nudity life would be so much easier for all. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I agree BareD. Washington seems to have a negative effect on those who remain too long. Term limits can, perhaps should, be accomplished by simply turning out those who remain too long. In the past I've advocated a payscale, living quarters, and term limits like those of our military officers with no one ever qualifying for retirement by simply serving in Congress, limiting them to no more than two terms there. If they want a retirement check from the federal government then the'd have to finish 20 years service through civil service. If limited pay and less than extravagant living/dining, etc is good enough for our military it should be satisfactory for our elected representatives as well. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBunny, I like the pitch. And I like the exchange between you and FireProf. Seems like it'd be a great approach and outcome. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I never had issues with my neighbors, whom I never asked but who probably did see me nude. My issue is my non-nudist wife who demands I NOT be nude in my backyard, gotta try to work on that. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I joined to educate myself on nudism/naturism. Since I'm still a relative newcomer of less than three years to the wonderful experience of nudism I'm not sure I can realy educate others, though I do contribute quite often. I do enjoy interacting with others who have far more knowledgew and experience than me about nudism. I wish it were posible to meet those I've "met" here face to face. Unfortunately, being married to a non-nudist complicates things in that regard. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Unfortunately I couldn't find the site. Perhaps some filter on my computer bloced it from coming up. I will try again. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Seems right to me. I'll checvk it out but have to look at my other sites first: TN (alrewady reviewed this morning), here, AANR, NC, Fig Leaf Forum, and CNV. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I applaud Rand Paul as well. He finally forced an straightforward answer from weasel Eric Holder, saying Americans will NOT be targeted on American soil if not actively engaged in an attack on the USA. When we have all rights provided to non-citizens such as bin Laden's son-in-law, now in New York to stand trial in open civilian court, we have no legal basis to target citizens without due process for sure. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Best of luck Indy. Wish I could get my wife to try home nudism and develop an interst in venturig out. Jim | |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts |
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| I'd sure love to, CO. Just need to get the wife to agree to try it. Jim | |
| Sober Nudists |
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| After a bout of acid reflux last night I began to think I really should give up Diet Pepsi and sweets. But, I reverted back to old habits this morning, and stopped for a Diet Pepsi and package of mini donuts after the dentist before going to get my weekly testosterone injection. Jim | |
| AANR Updates |
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| Maybe you're right about the money grab, Bob. After all, I think we all pretty much understand poiliticians have never seen someone else's money they didn't like. The idea of improving the trail sounds great, if it'll make access to/from the beach easier. But, leave it a clothing optional beach, SLO. There's plenty of clothed beach options for those who don't enjoy the right to go nude nor want to see others practice their right to do so. Jim | |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts |
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| I absolutely agree with you FireProf. The more the merrier. Just wish I could get my wife to join me at one and then hopefully choose to never again vacation a a clothing-required location. I'll have to work on her. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| Olivia, I agree with you. I am a lifelong teetoaler, never having drank, and also lifelong non-smoker. I am okay with those who do either in moderation but I don't tolerate drunks who become obnoxious or abusive. And, if the smoke become uncomfortable I will also take my leave. If they're offended, I JUST DON't CARE. Jim | |
| AANR Updates |
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| This hasn't and is not likely to affect me anytime soon since I've not ventured to any nudist locations outside Las Vegas where I've nly been to a couple of private residences and one hotel during the Nudist Expo but I'm wondering, is there a sudden "conseervative" backlash going on toward anything involving nudity, perhaps because of the stronger and stronger pus to normalize ALL sexual behavior. After all, too many non-nudists cannot seem to separate the idea of nudity (especially among mixed sexes) and sex. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Well said, Olivia. I used to be totally against the feminist movement because it seemed the women in the beginning were all man haters, perhaps they indeed were because of the way in which men kept them down and deprived them of equal rights (sound famliar to another dark segment of history?). But, since becoming a nudist myself I understand the arguments for more equality, including the right to go bare and be left alone if you wish. I believe the growth of naturism can go far in improving equality for all. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Best of luck, TxPopi. I hope your wife will take every opportunity to get some sun so you can then enjoy the resort together very soon. Unfortunately, my wife is no nearer to going nude, or even topless, than before. Hopefully, she will remain true to her word t's okay for e to attend social nudist events without her as we're about to move into the next season here in Las Vegas. Of course, I'd love for her to join me, even if she stayed clothed but I don't think it'll happen anytime soon, if ever. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I've not yet run into anyone at the few nudist events I've attended whom I knew from the "textile world" but certainly would like to do so, knowing it is something we both share in common. I have told a few coworkers and friends I'm a nudist and learned at least two are interested but have never ventured out to a social nudist setting. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I too believe by advertising an area as "Gun Free" you open it up to a greater likelihood of violence against the unarmed people in attendance there, including nudist resorts. I would very much like to be able to enjoy any venue, and certainly a nudist venue, without the threat of violence but unfortunately violence is a fact of lfe in most of society and has, of late, seem to have become more prevalent or at least more well known. And, I agree with you, Olivia, the police do very often actively stop threats, not simply arrive after the fact to investigate and call in someone else to clean up the mess. However, they cannot be everywhere all the time and so often are a reactionary force after the fact, much like any other first responder, by the way, for those who seem critical the poice are never there when needed. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Yes, Olivia, I do believe I get your point. Nudity as a right really is a complicated issue. While I have declared my belief nudity is a right it is not spelled out in any of our founding document and only the "pursuit of happiness" can be construed to include nudity as a right I lso recognize others' rights not to be offended and, therefore, am required to say I wish society would accept nudism as normal, allowing us to walk about freely nude without feeling we are "in their face" because we choose to enjoy activities without clothing. Like you, Olivia, I don't want to risk arrest but do wonder what is or is not allowed in terms of the law concerning nudity. I did inquire and got no direct answers from the Nevada Attorney General, the District Attorney (who didn't respond at all), nor the Sheriff except to seek legal counsel. Jim | |
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| Well, as I began to read your post, Olivia, my answer was as I've told others I'm anudist not one has expressed any harm and, in fact, have commented "as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else...." Now, reading to the end I have to agree with nudies2, very deep stuff, "WOWSER". Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with you, Sun Bunny. I think while nudists love the freedom of going without clothing, I'd say it's pretty much where the "free spirit" attitude ends. Otherwise, we seem to have the same hang-ups, concerns, etc as everyone else. Too many even worry about what others will think, how it'll efct relationships, jobs, etc. I'm not saying those concerns aren't real but they sure keep us from living as we should - naked and free. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| I agree, it shouldn't matter how a person chooses to enjoy nudism - how much or how little. I am one who wishes I could go nude anywhere/everywhere, which I know is unralistic. I have no desire to force myself upon others, just wish nudity was accepted in general. I will not break the law to prove I'm a nudist but don't mind pushing the limits. I just wish there were no ambiguity about when/where nudity is allowed and what is considered obscene. Then, it'd be up to others to worry about whether they do or do not want to see my old naked body bcause I just don't care. Jim | |
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| Nice!! I haven't had any opportunities to do any nude driving in quite awhile either and I do miss it. Luckily, Fire, your wife is supportive while mine is not. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Do ask her, Troy. Perhaps she's merely waiting for an invitation. I too have coworkers who know I'm a nudist. However, despite the invitation to accompany me or to check out my nonlanded club none actually have. Jim | |
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| Olivia, you're right and I did edit my comment to read "some men". I also understand your reasoning about leaving unwanted requests in que. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Armadillo, I agree with you. I also don't want to be arrested but do love to go nude whenever/wherever possible, though my experiences have been very limited so far. JIm | |
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| OK, Olivia. I do recall Lacey said she lets non-solicited requests set in the que but you mentioned you currently had 19 in stasis, "where they will remain" leading me to believe you weren't going to take any action. I have read all the comments, including Laura's journal post and the reply to it. It does seem some men believe if a woman "dares" to expose any part of her body, such as the breasts, she suddenly becomes fair game for unsolicited and unwanted advances and crude comments. Those men are obviously very juvenile in their thinking. It does make it very easy to understand why probably the majority of women choose not to participate on sites such as truenudists and others which is truly a shame. However, too many it seems, do act as if they truly are the weaker sex. I have no doubt whatsoever, Olivia, you can handle yourself no matter the situation. Jim | |
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| Olivia, is there no way for you deny the blind requests and permanently block them? I do so on yahoo meesdenger regularly. Jim | |
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| I agree with the right to be nude as well as the fun aspect of making the event more memorable. I've never done it either though. Jim | |
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| I agree with you 100% Olivia. If one is NOT going to perform the duties required why take on ownership of or create a group? Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| You've pretty much identified me, diablobanco. I'm still relatively new to nudism, having begun only about 2 1/2 years ago. I've had limited opportunities to participate in social events and have pretty much limited myself to interaction with the men in attendance. Even then, I pretty much stick to those I know. At the Expo pool party last year I didn't interact directth anyone since I didn't know anyone there. Yes, it was a bit awkward though nice to be among likeminded people at the same time. I'm sure I'd never approach a single or accompanied woman I don't know in advance. All the traits hold true for me at clothed events as well. i'm just not good at initiating conversation in most cases. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Very wise on all accounts, Nudony. I agree, let the friends lead on the issue. Still, it'd be great if friends truly would accept the fact we're nudists and not feel offended by the sight of our nakedness in their presence. But, again, they should lead the way. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I've steered clear of posting here but I am a married "single" nudist. My wife has so far expressed no desire to even explore nudism with or without me, perhaps in major part due to our age (both senior citizens with het two years older than me). I only became a nudist about two years ago, about a 180 degree change in direction from what my wife had grown accustomed to. Our daughter tried it briefly but decided it's not for her, perhaps in great measure because she became a mother 15 months ago. Consequently, I have no family to share this great way of life with. Jim | |
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| Olivia, I too support a student discount for you and others, regardless of age. As said, show your current student ID and receive the discount. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I don't really have the answers, celebare. However, since you own ther home and your daughter is apparently old enough to live on her own you should live as you wish - nude, in my opinion. If she truly doesn't wish to see you nude and you're willig to compromise by covering in her presence she should notify you when she is about to arrive home so you can cover up, minimally I think. Concerning your son, the coice is yours to tewll him when you're ready to reveal to him you're a nudist. My wife outed me to our daughter who has accepted the fact I'm a nudist but also, like my wife, doesn't participate and has said she doesn't want to see me nude. (Our daughter and grandaughter moved back in with us shortly after the baby's birth. The grandaughter is now 15 months old and it doesn't look like they'll be moving out anytime soon). If you choose to move to the resort then your family will have to make a decision. Will they visit you there or not? Apparently you're all adults and, therefore, can and should make your own choices, including whether or not to live your life as you want. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said, FireProf. I too think and desire to be nude 24/7, though I can't since I have to don clothing to go to work, to shop, etc. Yes, I'm one who would like to see nudism accepted everywhere as normal but, unfortunately, society has not eveloved so you, SunBunn, me and others who desire may live our lives totally clothes-free. We cannot divorce ourselves fully from society. Even Sun Bunny has acknowldedged donning clothing (a sundress with nothing underneath, as I recall) when shopping for groceries outside her nudist community, where she is fortunate enough to live. But, it doesn't mean we have to stop living clothes-free or thinking about doing so and promoting this wonderful way of life every opportunity we have. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| I too don't care aout the lives and stories of the so-called "rich and famous". ET and other such programs, which my wife also watches religiously, I think are intended to provide mindless "entertainment" to those who do watch. Usually, the men/women reading the teleprompters on those shows while presenting the "news" are either gushing over the celebrities or else "reporting" on their train wrecks. It's all about sensationalism and I just don't care. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| While I agree nudists should be free to go au naturel in the presence of their textile friends (and dare I say family) it unfortunately is not usually the case. Many of those friends/family would feel uncomfortable at seeing an unclothed person up close and personal. Societal conditioning has gone a long way in demonizing nudity, equating it with sexuality or even depravity. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'm not sure we will ever know the true answer to this one since it seems mankind has almost always been represented as wearing some type of clothing. "Cavemen" are shown as wearing animal skins, presumably for warmth or protection against other environmental factors such as thorns. As stated by Pipermac, the Christian Bible references Adam and Eve as trying to cover their shame then being clothed in skins by God to protect them to the harsh environment outside the Garden. And, yes, I have read elsewhere of a requirement from God for priests to cover their genetalia when inside their temples. Honestly I'm simply guessing but it seems to me the requirement to cover one's body has almost always stemmed from Christians who insisted upon clothing their converts wherever they went, regardless of weather conditions. As time went on the clothing became more and more elaborate to the point of ridiculous in the heyday of the Eurpoean empires when men and women would cover themselves in layers of fashionable clothing from head to foot. In addition to the ridiculously stifling and restrictive clothing they also brought diseases/plagues, perhaps incubated by the clothing, to the "heathens" they sought to convert. Eventually, laws were written which require clothing to at least cover genetalia and the anus. And, oh gosh, a woman'sbare a breast, or at least her nipple, might cause to lose control and become sex-crazed fiends. And, of course, a naked penis could cause an epedimic of ladies fainting in the streets, creating a medical epedmic. I don't really have an explanation beyond the fact "it's dirty" for having to cover one's anus which is usually not visible anyway to the casual observer. | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think the problem is simply the view of the majority of society that any sight of a live nude human form is somehow"unnatural" (what a misnomer, considering we are born naked and, if you believe in the Christian Bible are taught Adam and Eve were nude in the Garden of Eden until their eyes were "opened"). The most often heard words concerning the sight of a bare anus, penis or vagina and, yes even women's breasts, seem to be nasty, dirty, or other such words intended to communicate they are somehow inherently unclean. But, as stated by Skyclad the presence of clothing actually traps bacteria, etc which causes the unclean state surrounding those nude body parts. Women, in particular, whether clothed or unclothed, are expected to be "ladylike" in their conduct, such as always keeping their thighs closed so as not to display even their undergarments let alone a nude vagina, no matter how uncomfortable doing so may become. Textiles simply cannot or will not separate the idea of simple nudity from sexuality. Those, very often, are the same people who readily seek out nudity or near nudity in film, print, etc. And, of course, will sneak a peek in the hope of seeing bare breasts or genetalia when the oportunity may arise, all for prurient stimulation. | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| A great point, Skyclad. The nude community service angle is a good one. Jim | |
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| I just received my latest edition of The Bulletin from AANR today and fiesco, I believe the adds shown there are very tastefully done and are appropriate for mainstream publications. By the way, I agree with you such efforts should be made to help spread the word about the benefits of nudity, especially clothing optional vacations in great locations. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think your point is well made, SunBunny. Jim | |
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| Based upon what little i know about the situation in San francisco (read here and other nudist sites) it seemed to have turned into a sideshow inwhich the men iknvolved made a spectcle of themselves and caused a crackdown on nudism in liberal San francisco. Will it have a widespread effect on the acceptance of mainstream nudism? I don't know but until society learns to understand nudity does not equal sex things are not likely to change. Acceptance comes through education. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Christopher, I agree AANR and TNS could do a better job opf supporting nudisdm and a nudist movement to help mainstream nudism. I too had not heard of TNS in particular until I became a nudist at approximately age 60. As far as comments about the Church, I think the point is it holds a strong position in many peoples' lives and they fear ostracization is it's found out they live or desire to live as nudists, particularly in a social setting. Nudism is definitely misunderstood and usually associated with wanton sex, therefore making nudity sinful in most people's eyes. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Perhaps I'm showing my ignorance but have you considered trying to meet women, with or without children, who already participate in nudism through visits to beaches, resorts, travel clubs, etc? Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Well said, Smokey. As said by the father of a 6-year old killed at Sandy Hook Elementary, in testimony, we don't need more laws, we need to eforce the ones we've got. Joe Biden has shown the idiocy of creating even more laws by saying we can't enforce some we've already got. the only way a law will stop a bullet is by being thick enough a bullet cannot penetrate it, in the right place at the right time. Jim | |
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| Two things stand out for me, J.P. in your comments. First, the brief view of naked riders is a spectator sport for some and non-threatening as opposed to a single nude man walking down the street, as mentioned by you. Secondly, such group events tied to other causes -, in the general public's mind, probably does generate a more positive view of nudity. Still, I wish nudity could become widely accepted by the public and considered normal in everyday life. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| How about people who do housework (cleaning, cooking, etc) while nude? I think they can proudly wear the title nudist if they so choose. Also those who simply choose to relax around home without clothing, or sunbathe in their secluded backyards clothes-free. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Unfortunately, far too many people, apparently including Ms. Silverstone, see the terms nudist/naturist or nudism as somehow negative. I too proudly wear the nudist banner and want to promote nudism as a normal part of life among society. Jim | |
| Naturist Fiction |
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| Cantrade, I for one would definitely be interested in reading the additional stories you referred to. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too have feared repercussions from my wife, including possible divorce. We have been married just over 40 years now (Jan 6) and I don't want to live my life without her. Therefore, I have caved to her demands to cover up (pant or shorts, no shirt required) when not behind closed doors. This is inside the house since our daughter and grandaughter are with us pretty much fulltime. I t's not been worh the hassle to fight the battle though I think pushing more and more toward open nudity might eventually lead to her and the daughter just accepting the fact I will go nude when I can. Jim | |
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| I too would like to see nudity decriminalized. And, marijuana as well but for different reasons. As said by Cantrade, regulate and tax marijuana. Treat its effects like alcohol - if you toke and drive you should pay a penalty, especially if you harm others. Nudity is simply that and, therefore, does not need regulation. There are already laws which prosecute harmful sexual acts, etc. Of course, the majority oftrue nudists won't do anything without clothing they wouldn't do if dressed; therefore, nothing to regulate. We know already children are natural nudists and, therfore, not harmed by the sight of naked bodies. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| All, well at least most, of Washington is to blame, on both sides of the aisle. There are folks, like Cheri and your husband, who sometimes do need a hand up. Unfortunately, there are those who rely on the taxpayers, through government, and contribute absolutely nothing to the economy. The government hasd done a great job of creating a new plantation mentality. The takers make no effort to improve their state in life, unless through crime. But, they'll keep reelecting their "masters" as long as they receive their guvment checks. President Obama allegedly told John Boehner the nation doers NOT have a spending problem. I wonder how many of us could ever live like that? I know my credit wouldn't last too long before my creditors would take all I have, unless the government intervened to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly, or would it? Jim | |
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| I read the post by the individual who stated he joined this group simply to make fun of it. At least, I read that portion. Afterward, I never bothered to read anything more he had to say. It just shows how intolerant those on the other side really are but can't find a real argument to support their viewpoint and so join a group to make fun of those who disagree with him. How narrow minded. Jim | |
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| I suspect many of the mirror shots are attempts at self portraits because the "models" don't have or don't feel like they have anyone else who they can ask to take the photos for them since they're closet nudists. I was fortunate enough to have my daughter take my first two nude photos. I've had limited success taking some additional photos, partially clothed and nude , as requirewd, in order to join another site. All are indoor shots but the self-portraits(?) were very difficult to obtain. The few times I went to pool parties, with the exception of the first where I asked to be included in a group photo but never received a copy of the shot, I never saw a camera in sight. Since my wife is NOT a nudist and my daughter chose not to participate I've had no one else to take photos which I can post while participating in outdoor gardening, etc which I loved doing until my wife overreacted to me being nude outdoors. I very much agree nudists should be more than willing to to post nude photos of themselves here and on other nudist sites. It was my primary motivation for asking my daughter to photograph me in the nude, to prove I really am who I said I am. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I believe we do have to more open about who/what we are - nudists who are unashamed to tell others we are nudists and to openly discuss it when the opportunity arises. Also, change the media mindset - far too many newscasts quickly represent the "nude man or woman" with a gun or sword, etc. The fact the person was nude has nothing to do with the event, except to pique the audience's interest. Of course, due to the way it's presented the nude person is automatically painted as deranged. In fact, most crimes have been committed by clothed persons, often in military-style regalia and body armor. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree people tend to wear clothes because society says we/they have to. At least the majority of us were raised to believe clothes are normal and REQUIRED. Fortunately, at age 60 I learned the joy of going clothes-free but still must wear clthes to go away from the house or even in front of the house. Actually, I also have to wear some kind of cover indoors most of the time as well to maintain civility with my wife. Jim | |
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| I also want to wish all here a very Happy Nude Year, even if you're unable to celebrate/ring in the New Year naturally. I'll be abed, nude, when the clock strikes midnight so I can get up for work tomorrow. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| I too believe in a universal, supreme being who created and watches over this universe we live in, perhaps all universes. I too believe the various names (titles you would say Smokey) and physical manifestations presented by various religions are simply that - man's attempt to portray the superior being worshipped and represented by the various religions to the followers of a particular faith or sect within a faith. It's my belief at least most religions refer to the same god (God) under various manifestations of the supreme being. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Ms Gilmour does make a very strong argument and explains quite well what/who a nudist really is. Though I argue I wish we could go nude anywhere/anytime I will admit I too would feel very uncomfortable doing so in the general population unless nudism were to become widespread and accepted as "normal", which of course I believe it is. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| I too hope eveyone has/had a joyous celebration regardless of your religious or non-religious beliefs. For me, it's a Merry Christmas. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Merry Christmas Andy and all my other nudist friends here at NCH. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thanks for the update and explanation Brian. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I was unable to log on this morning and am now having issues with slow connections, seems to take an inordinate amount of time to connect to anything here, such as your post txbiker. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I wear clothing far more than I want, for work, to run errands and even to keep my wife and daughter happy. But, I try to wear the minimum at all times (whatever standard it may be - at work a uniform, at home loungewear in the winter, shorts or wrap in the summer, but always commando. I'd love to go nude 24/7, 365 if possible but I can't. Once retired perhaps I'll find far more time to just go nude, which is my dream. Jim | |
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| I'll certainly be nude when the Nude Year comes in but hopefully asleep to, depending upoNn the fireworks on the Las Vegas Strip and in the neighborhood. I'll pull a 12-hour shift on New Year's Eve and double back an hour early the next morning for a nine hour shift so all the revelers may party. Hopefully some will do so in the nude, unfortunately it'll have to be in private since nudity is not tolerated on the Strip or in the casinos. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Andy, I was referrring to flipping the word progressive around and upside down. It's the perfect symbol for these regressive socialists who desire to take away our freedoms and make all subject to government control in the name of progress. Jim | |
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| I like it Garry. May all have a very Merry Nudey Christmas and a Happy Nude Year. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| You've made great points Smokey. Regarding the magnetic strip on one's license, how would it be kept updated until time for a license renewal which in Arizona, I believe, is 50 years or at least well beyond the normal four to six years used by most states? Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| In typical progressive (Andy, I'd appreciate if you could work your magic and place this in the correct manner) fashion they're up in arms to ban weapons, particularly "assault" weapons. On the radio this afternoon I heard a caller correctly state firearms have never assaulted anyone since they're inanimate objects and so the term is a misnomer invented by the Left to create hysteria among the public. I also heard some "official" today called for action against "military grade" weapons and another state the U.S. has more guns than any other country and more murders as a result. It made me realize Switzerland, where murder rates are low, require at least every military aged male possess an issued "military grade" firearm as part of Switzerland's militia since it does not have a standing army. Israel also expects, or allows, its citizens to be armed as a means of self defense against attacks by her enemies. Again, murder rates are low and most often carried out by terrorists against Israeli civilians or military personnel in a non-military environment. So, the call for disarming citizens and creating more feel good but useless laws is a waste of time, energy and public treasure. Action must be taken to disarm the mentally unstable and criminals, including illegals who come across our open borders to elect progressive politicians. jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Andy, if you send two divergent letters on the issue you'll likely get two divergent answers. He's a politician and will cater to whomever he thinks will vote for and contribute to him. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I think there are many who just try to collect "friends". I'm not a frequent "friender" honestly, even after I've accepted some as friends but then some who asked to become friends have never made any attempt to contact me since. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I've never really thought about it. I've told a few friends and coworkers I'm a nudist. If they're interested I'm more than happy to share information with them, including the fact some venues are C/O and what it means. I've never thought to suggest the difference between C/O and mandatory nudity except nudity is expected in the pools/hot tubs. If they show an interst I like to share info on the sites, like this one, I visit. I'll also tell them about the Las Vegas Bares club I belong to and, of course, invite them to visit if they're interested. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Well said Lacey. Gun control laws are just a political reaction to say, "We did something." Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I suspect it's a fear of being "discovered" by friends, family, coworkers, fellow church members, etc. Just my thoughts. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with you SunBunny. While I think most people are comfortable with affection between females there is a much greater bias toward males doing the same, whether simply holding hands or even more. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Mery Christmas Brett and all others in the clubhouse. May all have a wonderful Christmas and very happy 2013. Oops, just realized today (12/22) I originally wished everyone a happy 2012. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I agree, dbo. Only in Washington is a flat budget (there hasn't been one in four years now) where there's no increase in spending, considered a cut. Jim | |
| Nudist News |
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| A very positive message. Thanks Gordon. I'd like to see such presentations on American TV without giggling and inappropriate comments or gawking. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Wow!! Turned away for living together as a couple. I asked my own club if I could have a female friend join with me even though I'm married and was told it'd be okay. It didn't happen but at least I was given approval. I have been able to participate as a single male so far. I guess the nudist community isn't as open as all would like to believe. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| The cartoon says it all. Obama and his ilk aren't interested in improving everyone's status; they're interested in fairness, as he has said many times. I believe he's perfectly comfortable with ever increasing national debt as long as the wealthy are punished for being successful. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| well, I'm overweight and I show it, though for some inexplicable reason I've been dropping weight despite my lack of exercise and unhealthy eating habits (far too many sweets and diet Pepsi). My doctor has told me I need to lose weight as I know I should. Currently about 5'7" and 190+ down from over 200. I can't say i don't care but so far I've failed to act upon it like I should, so maybe I really don't care. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think the open ended questions approach is best. I've provided information on the sites (Christian naturist as well as non-religious naturist) I participate on , along with info on my home club (Las Vegas Bares) and give them the opportunity to explore it for themselves. I try and hope I'm not too pushy though I do love to discuss nudism. | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I do long for the day when nudism is widely and openly accepted. I'm still really a newcomer of about two years at age 63 urrently but would definitely like to see nudism accepted as normal in my lifetime. I'm not referring to the outlanish actions of the SF gays but the wholesome nudity one expects to find in a family environment. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Shock value is not the answer. However, I do wish we nudists were widely accepted in society and not onsidered abnormal because we choose to go nude when possible, which I personally wish was anywhere/everywhere, anytime without others feeling offense at the sight of naked bodies. I think I can generally speak for most nudists, unless I'm very much naive, when I say we are not offended by others' choice of clothing but are highly criticized or ridiculed because we do not like to wear clothes, at least at certain times. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| What the hell don't the guys get? I guess they only see a photo of a nude or semi nude woman or the word nudist, naturist, or nude along with a femiunine photo or feminine name and automatically assume you (nudist women in genera) are open game ready to display your bodies for their viewing pleasure and lewd suuggestion. I certainly enjoy viewing nude female forms but also believe ladies should be treated with respect. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Now that's the way to live!! I'd love to live nude 24/7. Jim | |
| Nudist Comedy Youths |
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| Nudism presented in a very positive light, Andy. Thanks. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said Nudony. How about " Naturism/nudism is not about being ogling or being ogled"? Jim | |
| Nudist Clubhouse Events |
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| Hoping to make it again this year. Since I live in Las Vegas, shouldn't be overly difficult. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Andy and Armadillo, I agree with you both, to a point. I say to a point because I think the same holds true in terms of naked vaginas and anuses as well. But, again, suggestive sex scenes and mayhem are condoned and considered appropriate. It also holds true of nude statuary for the most part. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'll tackle #4 only since it's the only one I can arrive at on my own without repeatring someone else's answers. Why did the nudist cross the road? To get to the sunny side of the street. Oops, even this one has been answered already. Sorry for trying to steal your answer BobT. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I agree, nudity is a right based in the pursuit of happiness. I'm happiest when I can be nude. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Nudony, perhaps your question about not showering to smell good but smelling good results from showering is comparable to nudity. As you said, the phrase nudist "is not about seeing or being seen" means nudists don't ogle or want to be ogled, but simply to enjoy being clothes-free in whatever setting among likeminded others. Yes, of course, we will be seen and will see other nude bodies, just as we do in clothed settings. However, the primary focus is simply the freedom of being nude as opposed to being seen or seeing others nude. It is not sexual. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I guess I'd have to say using nudity for shock value by protestors and others is a disservice to nudism since the public will view nakedness in a negative light (I think most would/do find streaking to simply be a youthful prank and, therefore, humorous as opposed to offensive). I too am not willing to face arrest although I would very much like the freedom, which must be won, to go nude anywhere, anytime without others finding it offensive because of its acceptance in society as a right we all have, just like wearing clothing. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Olivia, thanks for the link. Did you notice the clothed person in the background with the camera? Jim | |
| Nudist Comedy Youths |
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| I agree Andy, Laci fits very well in this forum. Jim | |
| Nudist Comedy Youths |
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| Great message. By the way, Andy, thanks for letting me join. I just wanted, really, to comment on the previous video by Thom ? (sorry, I can't remember the last name) in which all the "violence" was directed against clothing. It was great. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| New Mexico may, indeed, be more on the right path though i fail to see the need for a woman to cover her aereolas when a man is not. Topless feedom should be enjoyed by all. Of course, i believe bottomless freedom should be allowed as well as long as there are no sex acts associated with it, except where appropriate. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Thanks Texasguy. I hope all have had a very wonderful Thanksgiving Day. I hope you've gotten to spend it nude and only the turkey was dressed. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| BareD, I really am not surprised about your nephew's dad's and grandfather's attitude (cheering on a 15-year old boy to go out and "sow his oats"). I've not been exposed to such attitdes for many years but when much younger it seemed to be a prevailing attitude young boys should "sow their oats" (be sexually active, conquering as many girls and young women as possible before settling down while condemning sexually active girls and young women as loose, sluts or whores. I never thought the double standard was right and chose to raise both my son and daughter to be sexually responsible. Jim | |
| Pacific Specific |
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| I think it's great the townfolk use simple nudity to support their causes. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I too do not own any firearms and have never felt the need to do so since I have never felt threatened. However, I believe responsible ownership is a right which should not be abridged. The practice of open carry or concealed carry, I believe, actually can help deter crime. As you said, aznative, criminals do NOT USUALLY purchase their weapons where background checks are required, though they may from time to time. You referenced assault weapons. They too can serve a function when needed for self defense since most are not skilled well enough to make every shot count, especially when unexpectedly attacked, perhaps startled from a deep sleep in the middle of the night. Most so called assault weapons are semi- automatic, requiring the shooter to squeeze the trigger each time he/she chooses to fire a round (bullet). Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| The media, in all forms, uses nudity to promote sex. Watch any soap opera or almost any other form of visual media and you will almost invariably see the nudism = sex link. The same holds true within music and literature as well. Nudity = sex is so heavily ingrained in the "civilized" psyche it is very hard for anyone who is not involved in nudism to imagine the sight of naked bodies will not stir instant lust in the hearts of observers. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I cannot agree more. Jim | |
| Military Veterans and Active Duty Person |
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| I am one who flies the American flag 24/7/365, properly lit at night. And, since I use an all-weather flag it is appropriate to keep it aloft in all kinds of weather. I do rewmove the flag when it becomes tattered and replace it. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| I also have a background in law enforcement (career Air Force Security Policeman) and security and so also worked to stop illegal drse. However, like you Smokey, I say legalize marijuana, regulate and tax it. Persons who use marijuana, like those who drink, should not operate motor vehicles, etc and should pay the consequences if caught and convicted. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SB, I agree with you. Even though I've written about the desire to go nude anywhere, anytime I personally lack the courage (indeed, fortitude) to do so. Unlike many I don't fear job loss or even public reaction so much as I want to keep my nearly 40 year marriage together. My wife does not share my enthusiasm for nudism and doesn't seem to want to understand it. I actualy shared in a letter to the company COO the idea of a nude, or least C/O, resort/casino. In the letter I stated I am a nudist and received a very respectful reply thanking me for my suggestion but citing why it cannot be done under current Clark County and Nevadas State laws as well as those in other jurisdictions. The pastie lady, perhaps, does march to a different drum but is definitely NOT a nut case, just different in standing up for what she truly believes in, unlike so many of us. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Since I'm still relatively new to nudism (about two years now) with limited exposure to social nudity I'm not really qualified to speak on this subject with any degree of expertise but wonder whether Europeans have also noticed a waning interest in nudism among their youth. It seems at least in those areas where nudity is accepted and, perhaps, celebrated as normal it is much more open than in the U.S. For example, I've read of a public park in Germany where people are free to go nude without even a second glance from other park goers. Beaches usually seem to be more open to toplessness if not full nudity, etc. Here in the U.S. nudism is a hush-hush subject hidden behind walls/fences in remote areas or occurring on remote beaches, lakeshores, rivers, etc as if nudism is somehow wrong. Again hill_billy, I agree with the concept of more acceptance of electronic devices such as cellphones and availability of WI FI to attract young people to nudist resorts. The older generation just seems suspicious of such activities, no doubt based in great part upon misinformation about what it all means. Nudists claim to be comfortable in their own skin and accepting of others yet seem to have an inordinate fear of being caught on-screen and learning their images have been spread across the world via the wonder of electronics. How many of us realy have to worry about being photographed/filmed by young people out to enjoy a day in the sun, does it occur in public where those same people are clothed? After all, how interested are the young/"fit" crowd in looking at old people with saggy skin and parts? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think hill_billy hit the key with the mention of de-socialization in America, probably greatly accelerated by use of electronic devices to keep users entertained without the need to ever actually even meet with another human being. Think about the times you've seen young people texting each othe across a table in a fast food establishment for example. They communicate with each other without ever actually talking or even looking at each other. Kinda makes the idea of social nudity moot, wouldn't you say? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| An interesting article. What would be accepted opn any public beach by most of the city's citizens, I'm sure, is somehow uacceptable on the city's streets. As she pointed out, she is careful to meet the ordinances of no bare nipples or genetalia yet many people choose to be "offended" by the sight of bare skin. Why, except for society's conditioning of the masses? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said, SB. I'm an oldster at 63 and only became a nudist about two years ago. Since I wasn't a nudist during their youth I didn't raise my own children as nudists, darn it. But, like you have said, it begins at home with one's own families. I did try to persuade my then 35 year old daughter of the joys and benefits of nudism. She tried it a couple of times but backed away from it, especially after becoming a new mommy for the first time. While she supports me in my choice to live clothes-free she told me she does not want to see me nude nor does she want her one year old to see grandpa nude for fear it could lead to trouble with authorities once the child is able to talk and tell others grandpa likes to go clothes-free. I do, from time to time, talk to others about nudism in hopes more will join and accept nudism as wholesome and a wonderful way of life. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Olivia, it is definitely great to see you back and posting. hanks for the information on your road trip. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Olivia, I appreciate your realistic attitude. I, indeed, believe you can handle yourself anywhere. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Congratulations hill_billy, I'd say it's definitely a move in the right direction. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I don't believe we can blame restrictions upon our freedom to go nude on just one party. Our best chances for nude freedom might actually lie with the Libertarian party. I am a registered Republican, as are many Christians, which I'm not (nor am I an atheist), which will ensure the party stays socially conservative. Moreover, I believe politicians are far more interested in pandering to the dictates of society which will ensure social nudism will not become widespread. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| The very elderly nudists could always fall back on others' misperceptions we're somehow crazy and, therfore, use it as the reason for running about nude fulltime. LOL Losing one's independence, and therefore our freedom, is scary. We will then be at the mercy of others, most of whom will simply not want to see naked, wrinkled, old people. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Yes, Andy, We the people CAN change things in Washington next Tuesday, and we MUST for the sake of America. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| To chime in here, I'd say their good upbringing and exposure to nudity BEFORE going to resorts probably resulted in the children being well behaved upon seeing nudity all around them. It really wasn't something unusual since they'd already been exposed to to it as normal. I suspect if well behaved children were suddenly exposed to nakedness, like in a resort or beach setting, they would act inappropriately simply due to their surprise at seeing what they'd been taught was abnormal and shameful. I guess I'll have a reference point in the future. My new grandaughter is 1 year old today. Her mom has decided she will not be raised as a nudist (mom's not) and my wife also insists the baby must remain dressed. I don't go purposely nude in the grandaughter's presence but don't hide either. Fortunately, my daughter accepts the fact I'm a nudist and has said she plans to raise the baby to be accepting of the rights and beliefs of others so hopefully she'll be allowed to discover her own path which I sincerely hope will be nudism. Jim | |
| Nudist News |
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| I agree, the exchange was pretty amazing. I don't know if either of you have ever watched Chelsea Handler. I've seen her because of my daughter and find her to be pretty vile, honestly. The language in the clip between her and Sandra Bullock was, itself, pretty crude, and actually came more from Sandra. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Is this really the best the Dems have got? Sad. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Looks as though the latest videos have already been taken down. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Welcome, Guy and Todd. Hope you'll both find answers and friendship here. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree about the early guidance and allowing choice once they're old enough to choose wisely. Seems you and your wife did a great job, Fire. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FieProf, I see your's and your wife's casual nudity in the home, in the presence of your daughters, as a very positive thing. I too was raised in a clothed home and with exception of seeing my mom breast feed my younger brother when I was very young (he's two years younger) I don't ever recall seeing my hernude and can only remember briefly seeing my dad nude only once late one night. I, unfortunately, failed to raise my own family as nudists and wish I could redo it. Unfortunately, I never truly felt the desire to become a nudist until in my 60s though I experimented with nude sunbathing off and on for about the last 25 years or so, too late to raise my son and daughter as nudists since textile was already ingrained . My wife still does not understand or really accept the fact I love living clothes free. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Lacey, my initial reaction was to agree with Obama is a failure. However, what if the events which have occurred (all terrorist acts, by the way) are exactly what he intended? Could we, in fact, have a Manchurian candidate in the White House? On a different point, I heard on The Roger Hedgecock Show today General Hamm of AFRICOM defied orders to stand down and had 16 men and an aircraft at the ready to fly to Libya to relieve or assist the SEALs and security team in Benghazi when his second in command walked in and relieved General Hamm of his command and ordered the mission aborted. That order had to come from on high. I don't know the exact source but Roger Hedgecock said he had information from numerous sources, including residents from the neighborhood surrounding the consulate compound, about what occurred during the attack on the consulate. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I don't believe the current administration can be trusted on any account. Lacey, you referenced the chance to get bin Laden and not taking it. I have heard several times it took Obama three times to get the courage to order the strike to take him out. Jim | |
| First Time Stories |
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| Congratulations, paladin. It seems you and your wife are on your way to enjoying this wondeful way of living totally free. Perhaps in time she'll also discover nudity in the presence of children is no big deal. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| He is totally out of touch. His goal is to enslave eveyone through reliance on government handouts. Lacey, you mentioned the killing of Osama bin Laden (great job by our SEALs) for which Obama has taken all the credit. But, look at the way he and his staff failed to act upon the attack in Benghazi which cost four Americans their lives. The response was NO response during their time of need. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yes, all should feel free and should be welcome to join the nudist community, regardless of appearances. Jim | |
| Pacific Specific |
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| Andy, I send my best wishes and hope to you, Bee, and all our Hawaiian nudist and non-nudist friends and neighbors throughout the Islands and areas around the Pacific who may or have been affected by this latest event. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I would say the biases, prejudices, and mistunderstandings of non-nudists who assume going nude is somehow wrong and immoral. As a result of such biasers laws have been created which are based upon those biases and misconceptions about nudists and our motivations. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I don't think any of us can imagine what they were thinking. However, I imagine their hearts sank. What the hell has happened to our military and all others they'd not respond, no matter what the "order." Like the ex-SEAL who defied orders, someone should have had the balls to disobey and face the consequences afterward. Perhaps there'd be four less dead Americans today. Then, when all made it out alive I'm sure the president would boast about how he saved the day. Jim | |
| AANR Updates |
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| I joined AANR and TNS about two months ago. Received both memberships within about two weeks. By the way, I did both by snail mail but sent them certified to ensure they were received. Jim | |
| First Time Stories |
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| A great story, tallswimmer. I especially like the story of you and your dad skinnydipping in the Dan River. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Perhaps Obama hoped/hopes for a citizens' uprising so change will come from outside Washington. Remember, he did call for a citizen corps as well-equipped and well-trained as the military, though I haven't heard any calls as of late. As a community organizer he was able to rouse the crowds through class warfare rhetoric, etc. and did not have to work with any group to get things done. He only needed to arouse emotions and step back, no real commitment required on his part to persuade the opposition. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| No permanent facilities near here though there's an effort to create a nudist area at Treasure Island RV Resort in Pahrump about one hour to the west. We have the Las Vegas Bares travel club and one other non-singles club here. Because I work weekends I get very few opportunities to spend anytime with others at the few outings scheduled througout the warmer months. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I've worn my terry wrap to/from the mailbox down the street as well as to a pool part. I use it aroud the house when I MUST over up in the presence of my daughter and grandaughter. I can definitely see the advantage of wearing a kilt or sarong while totally free underneath. Prior to the wrap I used to wear my heavy robe which was great for winter but too much for summer days/evenings. The terry wrap can be worn with a shirt if necessary to ward off the chill. A Snuggie is also very liberating for cooler weather. Jim | |
| New to Nudism |
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| I agree, body hair or the lack of is not an issue. Shave, wax, or go au naturel, it's your choice. Just go nude and enjoy life. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| The great difference between these two men is President Reagan inspired American citizens by touting America's greatness whereas Obama, from the beginning has told America it is is NOT great. The difference is pride and the belief in one's own abilities as oppoosed to hopelessness and dependency upon others. Ronald Reagan built the world's greatest and mightiest military and defeated the world's greatest threat at the time (the former Soviet Union) whereas Obama, like Reagan's predecessor, weakened our military and left us vulnerable to attack by our enemies. The military buildup, along with the elimination of job-killing taxes promoted American growth and pride whereas today the United States is weak and filled with misery. The Reagans made all Americans swell with pride whereas the Obamas have delivered misery. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree nudity is the natural state for all creatures and is the most relaxing state there is. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Social nudity, in and of itself, causes no physical nor mental harm to anyone, in my opinion. There are people who may feel emabarrassed oruncomfirtable when seeing nude bodies but they can never honestly say they were harmed by what they saw. And, honestly, their embarrassment or discomfort comes from witin. It is not caused by others. Jim | |
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| I heard the news this morning on FOX News. A true hero who has gone to his final resting place. Jim | |
| Nudist Teachers |
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| Yes, FireProf, I do think Gore meant to tell children not to listen to their teachers. I also agree teachers are in a tough position, not allowed to teach too often. Parents MUST accept responsibility. Sorry, gotta head to work. | |
| Nudist Teachers |
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| I agree, CaptNudie, too many parents, for whatever reason, shirk their reponsibilities as far as rearing their children. But, the current education system (not necessarily the teachers) is set up to asssume the parenting role in order to indoctrinate our children. As an example, former VP Al gore actually denegrated parents and elders by telling the children he was speaking to at the time the children were smarter than their parents. He was speaking about environmental issues but I'm sure the intent was to tell the children not to listen to parents but rather the propagandists. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Congratulations, 2hangfree. You're lucky to have the fredom to go nude so often, to have a wife who will share it with you on a limited basis, and has agred it's okay for you to go to a nudist resort. Hopefully you'll be able to convince her of the benefits of social nudity one day. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| That's great, FP, on both accounts - the three young couples and your bartender friend. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Great point, Rabbit. NOT allowing all the modern electronic conveniences on the "reservations" will definitely affect th future of nudity. Many young people already are involved in psting nude photos of themselves on-line, intended for friends, but I believe fully aware of where those photos may appear in cyberspace. The young people of today are not as naive about electronic/digital transmissions as many of the older generations may believe and simply aren't concerned about who may see their nude images. Thus, nudism may very well become more widely accepted and lead to more widespread nudism. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Those who think the government should be their benefactor (at the expense of taxpayers) will. They're unwilling to look at the truth and understand nothing is truly free. As acknowledged by Mitt Romney, there are those who truly need either a hand-up or perpetual care due to situations beyond their control. However, there is a class who believes they're entitled and will cheat the system to benefit themselves at the expense of others. Jim | |
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| Understood FP and I thought it seemed a bit out of character for your wife to go thru the drive-through nude but it wasn't quite clear in the way you worded your post. However, did you remain nude thru the drive-thru as I believe you've stated you've done before? Or am I confused again? Regardless, the fact you spent so much time nude is a great story and must have been at least very comfortable for you both. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| Well said, Rusty. I feel pretty much the same way. Unfortunately, being married to an unsupportive spouse I do have to compromise. And, since I work in the casino/resort business I must also wear a uniform as a Security officer so I'm not nearly as free as I wanna be. Jim | |
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| FP, another great story. Youy said at the end "...we had clothes on for about an hour from Thursday afternoon until Monday morning...." Does that mean your wife was nude throught out the drive as well, even while going through the drive-thrus? Regardless, I applaud you both for your openmindedness and love of nudism. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I'm not good at reading body language and so failed to pick up on most of what was pointed out - the prsident looking down, etc. However, I did see him tighten his jaw and shake his head a couple of times (while looking down), maybe because his notes weren't up to speed. On the other hand, Mitt Romney looked ready and presidential in my opinion. It's been said Romney went through intense rehearsals while the president's schedule was busy. Well, let's see, he did find time, repeatedly, to campaign across the country. Sunday, he campaigned in Las Vegas before settling in at Lake Las Vegas. Tuesday, he went to see Hoover Dam his first time, according to the local new then left Las Vegas en route to Denver after 11:00 AM yesterday morning. Michelle, meanwhile, went to Reno yesterday morning before flying to Denver to join her husband in Denver for last night's debate. Let's give the president the benefit of the doubt and say he was distracted because yesterday was his and Michelle's 20th wedding anniversary - congratulations, but he got a drumming last night. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Sun, I think you're right about location playing a major role in the healthiess and lifestyle of the residents. I'm from the land of endless buffets (don't even really like visiting them much anymore)and Las Vegas is full of obse people. Lots of smokers and drinkers too. Many are visitors but there ar lots of residents who fit the mold too. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| New_Adventurer I read this post elsewhere but want to again congratulate you and wish you both the very best here as well. Looking forward to what I hope will be a positive update. Jim | |
| Nudist who just dont care... |
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| As long as they conduct themselves appropriately, just as is expected of heterosexuals, why should it matter? Besides in today's society gays are very openly allowed to interact with other members of society. Unless a person is homophobic (something children must be taught I'm sure) we're very likely to often interact with gays without ever realizing their sexual orientation. Yes, there are those who are flamboyant and very much want others to know they're gay but the vast majority are just like mainstream society. So,I say let them in just as others are welcomed as long as they abide by the rules. There's already enough descrimination against "single" men in an effort to maintain balance. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree, Jennifer Anniston for sure. I saw her, or a body double's, nude body from the back as she walked away from the camera. She was beautiful. Of course, I'd like to share a nudist experience with many of them since so many seem to have a really relaxed attitude toward nudity. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Armadillo, you misunderstood FP's comments. He is in no way condescending toward youth. He often discusses the need for oldster to be more accepting of youth. He has undergone at least two foot surgeries this past year, one foot at a time, and no doubt suffers other wear and tear from his years as a professional firefighter. At least according to what I've read, FP loves youngsters and wants them to enjoy nudity with and among mixed sexes and ages. In fact, his own daughters and their families have participated in nude vacations with them. Other young people have happily hung out nude with him and his wife at their home. There really is no better avocate for young nudists, in my limited experience, than FP. His wife is a bit socially shy and so isn't as open about it as he is. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I certainly hope your assessment about Colina Do Sol closing is wrong, SB. I've just finished watching the last part of the series on Carina. I think she said it so beautifully when she said "this is my paradise...." It certainly appears/appeared to be an idyllic place to live as a naturist. carina's description of naturist versus nudist reminded me of an earlier thread on this subject where members were asked to identify themselves, naturist or nudist? After hearing/reading it explained by Carina I now do truly recognize the difference. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I have kinda mixed feelings on this issue since obesity is not attractive, no matter the cause. Everyone should have the right to enjoy nudism, even with others. I was told about a month ago by my primary doctor I need to lose about 40 pounds to get my bloofd pressure under control. Thankfully a nursae had a good, frank discussion with me in which she told me to give up diet sodas (I was a Diet pepsi fiend who off-set any possible "benefits" with a candy bar or package of mini donuts, chips or whatever). She told me it would actually be better for me to drink regular soft drinks than diet with all the chemicals they contain. Better yet, I should and have been limiting my soft drink intake altogether though I do slip occasionally and consume one. I've already seen some weight loss without even beginning an exercise regimen which I know I need to do. The best I ever felt and looked occurred back in the late 80s and early 90s when my wife got me into jogging with her. I got my weight down to about 160 from the 180s (now I'm over 200 lbs). I know I'll definitely look more appealing to any viewer of my nude body if I shed these extra pounds but I'm having trouble getting started. It's, of course, just a matter of gritting and bearing the initial soreness to get back into moving my body forward. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I wasn't aware today was Woman's Day. And, unfortunately I worked all day and my wife is now at work so no time to share dinner nor anything more. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thank you Andy. I've only watched the first part of the film but what a great place and way to live - never having to dress unless you leave the village. After having watched the second half i'm more convinced than ever the people who live at ColinDo Sol have it right. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| 2016 was ery interesting. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Ive never heard of it but will try to do my own research. I agre there may be some lessons to be learned. Of course, unless I misinterpret the open display of near naked bodies at Carnal and on the beaches it seems Brazil has a far more relaxed attitude toward society than North American society. I just tried searching for Colina Del Sol but found nothing in Brazil, even when I added the words "nudist community" to the search. Hopefully others will have better success. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| The message is such a great one and so apropos to today. Jim | |
| First Time Stories |
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| What a great story, Ms Paladin. I assume, baed upon your account, you're looking forward to a return trip sometime in the future, right? Jim | |
| just plain nudists |
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| Sounds great FireProf. I hope all of you really enjoy the weekend. unfortunately, I don't have the kind of network or likeminded spouse to do such things. Haven't had much opportunity to really enjoy the summer clothes-free the way I'd like. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Perhaps a better way to say it is NOT about sex would be to say it's not about orgies, swinging, or whatever other terminology one may choose. Yes, nudists do enjoy sex in appropriate environments, including openly in the presence of others who are likeminded but restrict their activities to only their own spouses/partners and not for purposes of exhibitionism. If anyone is confused by this go to Naturist-Christians and read the post "Hello From Beautiful British Columbia". Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Seems like a great approach, FireProf. I guess it's just so difficult for too many to understand it just is NOT about sex. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SB, you're exactly right. Unfortunately, I am one of those who in order to keep the peace with my wife, does wear clothing when she's home as well as at our daughter's request I not go nude in froint of her or the grandaughter, though i'd love to live clothes-free full-time. Fortunately, my daughter is more understanding than her mom and so I do sunbathe nude and often wear only a terry wrap even to/from the mailbox while carrying my grandaughter in my arms. So far, I've had no negative feedback from any of the neighbors for wearing as little as possible in their presence. I still tend to put on a shirt and shorts when visitors call but don't care who knows I'm a nudist. I know this is not being a true to nudism but it's how I have to live to maintain the peace. Jim | |
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| I agree it is a great article. I also can verify FireProf has given great advice to me and others on dealing with reluctant spouses regarding nudism and, yes, he has always stated honest communication is a key to success. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I understand your point about not expressing your views right away, SunBunny and respect you for it. I also think you have the right attitude about going nude in your own castle. Again, if it weren't for my wife's attitude I'd gladly go nude full time no matter who might visit. Like you said, they can make the choice whether to visit or not, including whether to join me/her (if she'd participate) nude or not. When on their turf it is appropriate to respect their customs, just as they should respect our's. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I do think one should have the right to go nude or clothed as they wish in their own home despite who visits or why. If my wife were okay with nudity then I'd be very much inclined to go nude no matter who might visit and for whatever reason. I think it would be appropriate to let those stopping by to know your's is a nudist home. it could be done through a sign reading "Welcome to our nudist home, feel free to come in and remove your clothes" or something similar. In the case of people traveling from a great distance a courtesy notice via written message or telephone call would be appropriate. They could then decide whether or not to visit. Unfortunately, like TXPopi I havew family who don't want to see me in the nude. My wife and daughter are the most immediate examples. Like you said, FireProf, living in a nudist community would make it all so easy. It'd be great to never have to wear clothing anytime/anywhere. A nudist resort is currently the closest option. And I agree with Rabbit, Sunbunny, I'd like to know your opinion too. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Thank you Andy. This was actually the first time I've read the Ten Tenets but absolutely agree with them. Yes, we must hold all our elected officials accountable in the upcoming election. Otherwise, the United States may not survive as we now know it. I honestly believe Barack Obama told us his plans for the United States when he talked about fundamental change. The Obama administration has been filled with divisiveness and class envy/warfare. Those perpetually on the government dole believe they are entitled to all it provides and want more without realizing the consequences. Jim | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| Well said, Sanman. Yes, it is the perception of those who witness a nude person which creates the problem, not the laws themselves. But, how do we change those perceptions which have been so ingrained in society for so many years? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I understand, particularly if it requires bulky clothing. Fortunately Las Vegas usually doesn't get too cold. Jim | |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts |
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| Thanks C-O. If she ever decides to at least explore the idea I'll be sure to let you know. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Crawl under a Snuggie to watch TV, read, etc. Outside I'll wear as little as possible. My first winter as a nudist I enjoyed wearing only my robe outdoors, often open when it appeared the neighbors weren't out and about (never got any negative feedback). Unfortunately, my wife disposed of the robe in some way so I'd have to put on more clothing in front of our daughter. Once I even visited with several neighbors next door dressed only in my robe which I kept closed. However, the lady next door did ask if I was wearing anything beneath it to which I simply replied, "I'll never tell". Wish I had. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Ditch, why can't you drive in the nude in cooler/colder weather? I just turn up the heat in the car and enjoy the experience. Jim | |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts |
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| It looks wonderful. If I can ever persuade my wife to try a clothing-optional vacation this might be the place to test the waters. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I usually use the term nude but also will use the term naked when speaking or chatting on-line with other nudists. I have also used the term naturalist when it seemed to fit. However, i refer to myself as a nudist. I think even the unitiated pretty well understand what it means if I tell them I'm a nudist. Jim | |
| Nudist News |
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| I agree with you 100%, karen. Just because they're in the public spotlight the royal family or any other celebrities deserve privacy just like anyone else. I'm glad the royal family has stood behind the duchess(?) rather than publicly condemn her. And, I hope they've not privately condemned her either. It's refreshing to learn the younger generation is not as stuffy and uptight as the older generations have always been perceived to be. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I feel I'm the same person, clothed or nude, thogh I do feel more free and relaxed when I'm nude. Jim | |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts |
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| Hmm. Great question. Since I've never visited ANY B&B I may not be really qualified to give an answer. However, I'd think a B&B would be more like being a guest in someon'es home. A CO B&B woyld, of course, mean the visitors are invited to go nude if they wish and might mean one should expect to see the host(s) going about their daily activities in the nude or at leat relaxing nude after hours. You're right, SB, I don't think there'd be an expectation of an extended stay but I suppose that would depend upon the schedule (number of bookings) and interaction between the hosts and visitors. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too consider myself a nudist and would love to go nude 24/7/365 (366 during leap year). However, I too work where clothinhg is required. I also have a non-supportive spuse andd find I must dress to go out to shop, socialize, etc. The fact I MUST sometimes wear clothing does not mean I am any less a nudist. The fact we have to make efforts to enjoy nudity shows we really aren't as free as we'd like to be. If society were accepting I'd gladly go everywhere/do everything fully nude. Unfortunately, society is not that tolerant, as evidenced by the creation of laws which could lead to one's arrest or at least detention for purposes of a mental evaluation. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| The internet helped me discover the wide world of nudism and actually allowed me to find my club, Las Vegas Bares, where I could actually meet other nudists face to face. Until I actually searched for information on-line I had never done anything more than a bit of secluded sunbathing in my own backyard when living in a place where it was possible, always nervous about "getting caught". The internet, and being an on-line nudist has really opened up this wonderful way of living for me. And, because I live, currently, with two non-nudists it is one of the few places where I can share nudism with others, including some camming on a limited basis. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Well, two nurses at my urologist's office now know after my visit there this morning. When I arrived and was processed I was takent o the room where the procedure wass to be performed. I was told to remove my clothes (shorts only since I go commando) from the waist down and get on the treatment table, covering myself with the paper sheet provided. After doing so the nurse returned and began to prep me which involved sterilizing my groin and anethisizing the head of my penis. She, of course, had to move the sheet to do so. Then, I was directed to lie on my side and she partially covered me with the sheet. Shortly after the first nurse returned with a second to further prep me and had me slide forard to the edge of the table and place my legs over supports. Again it was necessary to remove the sheet which seemed to be getting in their way. Therefore, I told them it wasn't necessary and said I guess I should tell you I'm a nudist. Their reaction was either one of amusement or relief. I told them if they were not offended the sheet was not necessary and simply removed it. Thereafter, I stayed nude (my legs were covered with steril pads to prevent infections) from about the chest down since I did have my shirt pulled up out of the way. Everyone, including the doctor when he came in seemed perfectly at ease and I felt much more comfortable. I suspect my future visits will be much easier and will save materials (disposable cover sheet) since I can just strip and await the doctor with no need to cover up for anyone's modesty or comfort. Jim | |
| First Time Stories |
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| Congratulations Emz for living the way I would love to live - nude 24/7, 365 and would if my wife were okay with it. When I first became a nudist and she seemed to tolerate my "eccentricity" (she never used the term herself) I did pretty much go nude 24/7 indoors and out except when forced to dress, such as in the front yard. Then I'd wear minimal clothing. I really only got dressed when we left the house. Jim | |
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| Typical overreaction, Skiflydive. The government is determined to protect us from ourselves, even if it kills us. Jim | |
| First Time Stories |
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| Emz, let me add my own praise for your story. I've been a nudist for about two years now but have had very little opportunity to share with others. Jim | |
| Single Nudists Unite! |
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| 89123-0742, Las Vegas, NV | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Rocky, since public nudity is not illegal in Oregon why do you feel the need to get dressed to pump gas? Jim | |
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| I do like oregon's enlightened attitude toward public nudity. I agree we are more attentive when driving nude since we don't want to give the police any reason to stop us. I'm not sure whether it's legal or illegal in Nevada but don't look for any reason to be stoppoed by the police. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Me, I'm a nudist period. I enjoy doing everything, including sex, while nude but I'm certainly NOT a sexually active nudist in a public sense of any sort and don't feel the need to define myself further. However, I'm okay with others who do identify themselves as hyphenated nudists as long as it does not involve sexual connotations. But, SunBunny, nudist-chicken does sound like someone who's afraid to openly identify themselves as a nudist. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Arrest for a comment might be a bit drastic. However, they certainly sahould have the right to go topless, bottomless, or totally nude without derisive comments. Unfortunately, too many will assume if they're even partially nude they invite such comments on themselves. I wish for a world in which we all are free to go clothed or unclothed as we please witout anyone assuming it carries any particular connotations or invites unwanted comments/acxtions. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Nudony, I think your own story shows leaving it up to the children is the right choice. Children, like adults, will resent ever being forced to do anything. Leave it up to them and very likely they will find the pleasures of nudism on their own. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Mike, if you at least retain an honest and open friendship what can be the harm in telling her who you truly are (a nidist) and inviing her to join you or check out a club/resort for herself? If she emphatically sauys no then drop the topic. Of course, it will be her loss. Jim | |
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| Keep doing it scinga. I'd love to make a nude road trip, especially if my wife would join me. My trips area always short errands or drives home from work, sometimes in daylight and others at night. I always feel more comfortable when totally free. Jim | |
| Just for fun |
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| I can't think of a thing. I can carry any items I might need in my hand(s) or if too large, I suppose, tow them in somew fashion. however, those towed items wouldn't fit into any pockets anyway. Nope, I don't miss anything about wearing clothing and love to be fully nude every chance I get, which isn't frequent enough. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| As in every other facet of life, in nudism one size definitely does NOT fit all. I have taken some chances by engaging in risky behavior (nude driving, walking to/from the maibox wearing only my open robe, standing in my front yard with my robe open) but I have NO desire to break any laws nor offend anyone. I only wish we could get clear cut answers from those who create, enforce, and interpret the laws exactly what is and is not allowed. As I've written before I asked those questions last year of the local Sheriff's Office, The District Attorney, and the State Attorney General and got no definitive answers. So, what are we to do? I personally wish we could all be free to wear or not wear clothing anywhere and everywhere without violating laws or offending anyone. As I said at the beginning, one size definitely does not fit all and therefore it would be great to act as individuals as long as no one else is harmed. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Exbrit, if it will cause everyone to give up clothing I have to say this current financial mess will have one bright spot in it. Jim | |
| nude driving |
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| That's fantastic Firezman. Ran errands again this evening anfd drove home nude after the final stop. Short trip but pleasurable knowing I was totally free. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said Firezman. I certainly look at others and myself differently now, figuring if no one else is bothered by the site of my out of shape, overweight body why should I be or be critical of them. We're all together just enjoying the pleasure of being nude with others who share our same values in therms of nudity. Jim | |
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| Good for you, FP. Especially with your neighbors' attitudes of acceptance regarding your nakedness. I coulda had a chance encounter with the neighbor lady Friday night but stayed behind the truck out of her view as she arrived home from work. Don't think it would've worked out too well since even her husband says she doesn't like to see him walk around the house in the buff. He, like me, has a 30 something year old daughter living at home who also keeps him in check. You are one luucky man to have a wife who enjoys nudism as much as you do. OK, enough straying from the subject of nude driving. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thank you SunBunny and you too FP. You've both been great inspirations to me. Hopefully my wife's attitude will also change once I start receiving the magazines. I haven't subscribed to or purchased Playboy or any other "girlie" magazines in a very long time. Jim UPDATE: I decided NOT to add another post but just to say I did mail in y membership appls this morning along with payment for each. I didn't think to apply through either NCH or The LAS VEGAS BARES but did let them know I hold membership in both. On another note, I learned from a coworker whom I've been trying to get into social nudism for over a year anothe new coworker might be intersted in nudism. I mentioned it this morning and gave him an informational card for The Las Vegas Bares this morning. He seemed to really appreciate. Now the ball's in his court. | |
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| I began this post this morning before work then realized if I didn't quickly get dressed I'd be late for work. So, here goes again. I went to a function at the intersection of East Tropicana Avenue and Kocal Lane, just off the Las Vegas Strip last night. I drove over in my usual fashion, unbuttoned shirt and my shorts pushed low on my thighs. As I headed home about an hour and a half later, after dark, I decided to drive home fully nude, despite the rental vehicle I was driving does not have tinted windows so a bit more risky. (Well, I did wear sandals so I guess I wasn't technically fully nude). Anyway, I exirted the parking lot headed toward the Strip but decided to return the way I'd come, via the airport tunnel) so drove into and around the parking lot between the Bagatelle and Hooters before getting back on eastbound Tropicana Avenue to Paradise Road and southbound back through the tunnel onto the I-215 eastbound where I exited at warm Springs Road and continued home (maybe some of you will understand this route). Anyway, after about 25 minutes I arrived home and stepped out of the truck, slipped on my shorts, and came into the house where I later retired for the night in total nude abandonment until I had to dress for work this morning. Not the longest nude trip ever by far and certainly no match for the hundreds of miles and hours of naked freedom some of you have experienced across this great land but exhilirating nonetheless. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Ahh, SunBunny, peaceful coexistence between the clothed and the nude is my pipedream. Your statement the thing we have to fear most is fear itself. It really is what holds so many of us, and probably many textiles, from experiencing the wonderful freedom of nudity every moment of every day. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Just to update, I'll be mailing my membership applications to both AANR and TNS tomorrow. However, joining any of these organizations is NOT a requirement to be here on Nudist Clubhouse. I just decided it was time I support those organizations which support us. Whether I will renew again after the first year probably will depend upon the support I receive or perceive they provide. I did rejoin NCH after letting my membership lapse a few months in order to be able to see the posted images of and from members without them being blurred out. And, yes, I agree Brian has really done alot for the advancement of nudism and deserves my support monetarily as well as verbally or in written comments. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Just discovered this and decided I should add my own story. I usually say I became a nudist about two years ago while wotrking in my back yard digging out thew rocks and caliche in order to try to make it more usable for planting. I began working just about every day or evening after work until dark (days off pretty much sunset until dark or beyond). As I did so I began to unzip and push my shorts lower and lower on my hips, exposing as much area as I dared until i suddenly decided one day to just forego the shorts once I was in the hole I was digging. I'd dig up several shovefuls of dirt and place everything in a seive I'd constructed of hardware screen nailed to a 2 x 4 frame so I could sift the soil back into an area I'd already dug up while separating out the rocks and caliche. Finally I decided I just wouldn't bother to dress at all anymore to go out to work in the yard and stayed nude after showering. Eventually I decided i enjoyed the freedom so much i just didn't bother to dress as long as i was at home, whether outside digging or lounging about the house. But, to be truthful, I first tried nude sunbathing a few times while stationed in Turkey in 1978-79. I'd go out to the kennels which I was in charge of and set up a private area where I'd soak up the sun a bit, always worried about getting caught by some of my personnel or others. Next, while stationed in the Phillippines (1987 -1991 I began to sunbathe in only my bikini underwear pushed as low and pulled as high as possible to create a minimum tan line. wWhen we returned to the States (California) and lived off-base I resumed sunbathing in my underwear but eventually decided to eliminate it altogether so I'd have no tan lines, which I hate. Unfortunately, due to a lack of privacy at our on-base living quarters I pretty much had to give up sunbathing in the backyard until I retired in November 1993. Aftew we moved into our curreent home here in Las Vega I once again resumed sunbathing, initially clothed in my bikini underwear worn to maximize exposure until I eventually decided to begin subathing nude again for about two summers until my wife almost went into hysteria, woorying i'd be reported to the police by neighbors so I again gave up the practice (actually all sunbathing) for a couple of years until I decided to dig up the backyard which led me to where I am today. Nudism is the greatest discovery I ever made and I only wish I'd begun sooner and involved my wife, son and daughter while we were station in Florida, Texas, Virginia, and California. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| You're right, Andy. Typical Democrat BS. They have nothing else to run on since they have screwed up the economy so badly and the great O continues to step all over himself about how much the private sector needs more government and the evil rich just needs to pay their fair share. I read an item this morning in which I've since deleted in which Health Secretary Sebilius said the reduction in population (abortions on demand, government mandated birth control, etc) will actually offset costs by making it less expensive for insurance companies who'd otherwise have to pay for sick children. As I recall, Obama at some point actually suggested the elderly should seek cheaper alternatives such as pain medications to help make their end of life more comfortable and sooner than asking for costly medical procedures so more could be provided to the younger generations. But, if you reduce population growth at both ends who's left to receive all this wonderful Obamacare? Oh, that's right, the elists who created it. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SB, okay you've provoked me, in a nice way, to join both AANR and TNS. I'll buy the money orders tomorrow and send them out by Saturday. You're right, we need to support those who support us and the way we want to live. Having driven home nude this evening from an event helped seal the deal for me. There is no greater feeling than being totally nude as I am right now and will be until I HAVE to dress for work tomorrow morning. Okay, a slight exaggeration. I will put on my wrap when I go out to sit with the daughter and grandaughter simply for my daughter's comfort. When I'm at the computer though I don't cover up if she comes in to talk or ask me to hold the baby. She knows full well I'm a nudist and is okay with it but doesn't want to go clothes-free herself or to see me uncovered. By the way I'm also a premium member here as well. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I like to be nude because of all the above. It is the most natural feeling for me. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'm not a member of AANR or TNS only because I'd have a helluva time from my wife if I joined. I do belong to the Las Vegas BARES though I don't get to participate as often as I'd like. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| For me nudism is definitely NOT a hobby. I too have restrictions but am very happily nude every possible second and would love to go nude 24/7, 365. Jim | |
| AANR Updates |
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| I agree Lacey. Isn't it something how Washington can always find something outside their realm of responsibility to get up in arms about, to avoid dealing with the real issues. I applaud the Congressman for "daring" to bare all and wsh the rest of the members and their entorage had joined him. It's too bad he felt the need to apologizeas if he'd done something wrong. I'm glad to know AANR has supported his action as normal. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I don't think people would normally associate clothed visits to a neighbor's home with orgies, etc. And, if oddbutterfly and Rusty had not revealed to the neighbors they are nudist the thought would have probably never occurred to them until the neighbor "caught" Rusty in the nude when he came over to borrow tools. It's simply the thought of nudity outside their paradigm (sex, bedroom, bathroom to change clothes) which stirs others' imaginations about what "goes on" when people are nude together. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| My own mother would definitely be uncomfortable, I think, with me appearing nude in front of her, therefore I didn't expose myself to her when I visited though if it had happened I don't think I'd have run away or hidden from her. And, if she'd invited me to go nude in her presence I would have probably done so. At least I'd feel good about it knowing she was okay with it. The last time I brought up the subject with her she said even trees "wear" leaves. If in my own home then it might be a different matter if longterm. But, I have never gone nude in the presence of any visitor to my home, even donning a shirt when they're present. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Akin seems to have a very large ego. I've heard his apology and re-apology on both radio and TV. I will acept the fact he is truly sorry for his words. However, he should realize he has lost GOP support and will have no chanc of defeating Claire McCaskill after his verval gaffe. At the same time, there is definitely a double standard since no Democrat would be asked to step down (Joe Biden's "ya'll in chains" comment is an example). The Republicans do seem to show a sense of propriety but it seems to always work against them and costs conservatives in the end. Andy, you're right, we need to regain control in Washington so we can reclaim our country before it is too late. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FP, I think it's great your family is onboard with nudity, even on a limited basis. Hopefully you and the Prof will be able to find your dream home where you'll never have to dress if you don't want to. Sure wish I could live in such an environment but don't think my wife will ever feel comfortable with open nudity at home or elsewhere. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Isn't it amazing how society has so ingrained the nudity = sex mindset it is very difficult to get people to look beyond. Lacey, I think your's is a great approach to debunking the myths and misconceptions. Your long, drawn out divorce certainly should stand as a testimonial. Finally, thank you Lacey and Andy. Actually I had seen and admired the Nespresso commercial but didn't recall doing so. Very positive in my opinion. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too like the GEICO commercial approach to the clothing optional beach. I'm not sure I recall the Nespresso commercial but will keep an eye out for it. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Great job Lacey. You were honest about being a nudist and dispelled the misconceptions of at least one person. Perhaps she and her husband will check it out for themselves. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| A great point, SunBunny. The right to go topless anywhere/anytime is what equality really is about. Jim | |
| New to Nudism |
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| Welcome to NCH, Karen. So far I've had to limit my social nudity to a few visits to private residences and the pool party at the Naked Hotel during the Nudist Clubhouse Expo here in June. Glad to have you join us. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| We have a choice, as a nation, in November, four more years of misery and growing debt or a new direction toward prosperity and real change to a positive outlook. I, for one, will vote for Romney/Ryan. If I fail let it be my fault, not because the nanny state took oppoortunity aWAY FROM ME. Jim | |
| Pacific Specific |
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| What a great story. If I lived in San Francisco I'd definitely want to at least hang out in the Castro District if not live there. I applaud Katie for her daring in joining the Naked Guys and enjoying the pleasure of naked freedom. The article also points out the lack of negativity among society toward non-sexual nudism. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well, I've been away a couple of days and just saw the request from SunBunny to update why we're here. As I said in the begining I joined because I desire to live nude as much as possible (not nearly as much as I'd like since I wish I NEVER had to wear clothes. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't support my desire to live nude and so I must stay clothed to some degree in her presence except to sleep or behind closed doors). I have learned and continue to learn so much from everyone here. Thank you. Jim | |
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| I have driven nude once so far this summer, just a short trip around town. However, I drive with my pants down below my groin as much as possible, such as on my way home from work. I've never had the oportunity to drive anything near 23 hours or 1500 miles all while nude. I applaud you for doing so. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I hope my own photo is not considered a crotch shot or offensive. It was taken nearly two years ago and posted soon afterward. I simply wanted everyone to be able to see I am unashamed and proud to declare myself a nudist. Unfortunately, I've done no more photos beyond the initial two which were taken by my daughter at my request so I could post them here and elsewhere. If it is considered inappropriate I request someone with the skills to do so crop it to remove the offensive portion. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I say live openly nude as long as they are okay with it. Unfortunately, I cannot do so myself, though I'd certainly love to. My wife will tolerate a certain level of open nudity when we're alone. My daughter also is tolerant, knowing I sunbathe nude and sit at the computer nude. Sometimes she'll come to me to ask a question or to have me hold the grandaughter while I'm fully nude without comment. However, she doesn't want me to walk around or lounge in front of her and the baby fully nude. She is okay with me wearing only a terry wrap however. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I too am hoping for a landslide in November. I'm not sure this nation can survive another four years of Obama's politics. I too hate Justice Roberts decided to go against ther majority in his ruling regarding ObamaCare. However, it's possible he's trying to put things right back where they really belong, in the hands of the voting public where hopefully ObamaCare will be overturned. Perhaps the idea is to NOT legislate from the bench. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too think the manner in which the t-shirt was tied was just for practicality. FireProf, you've mentioned your wife's practical use of clothing numerous times - because she wanted to ward off a chill or to protect herself from the sun's intensity when it became too much. There is no reason we should to try to judge who is the better nudist. We all should be free to expose or cover as much as is practical in a given situation. I too prefer full nudity as long as I'm comfortable. I have spent winter evenings covered only with a Snuggie or blanket while pleaantly nude underneath. In the intense Las Vegas summer sun simple shade may be enough to reduce the discomfort of the sun if I can no longer withstand the burn on my skin. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| A great story, Nudony. You clearly understand nudity can be be fun, especilly when it involves kids being kids as opposed to just being "seen and not heard". Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| You make a great point, Rollercoaster. As long as they're willing to accpt my nakedness without protest I'm okay with them remaing clothed or semi-clothed. Jim | |
| Just for fun |
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| Hi Kamodo, welcome. I've read and responded to some of your posts elsewhere. It's good to have you here. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Reading the latest posts just reminded me my first nude social event was actually clothing optional an I remember checking first to ensure others were indeed nude before I dropped my clothes (enjoying every minute). Others who remained fuly clothed did attend as if checking out this nudist thing to see if it was right for them. Some remained partially clothed, covering their lower bodies while lounging about topless. It was a very positive experience and hooked me on my desire to be naked with others who also enjoy living clothes-free when possible. Jim | |
| Bare Skin Humor |
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| So true, DaveH. Who's going to know what you are or are not wearing beneath the surface unless very close by. In fact, I've read stories where some have doffed their trunks once "covered" by the depth of the water and no one was any the wiser. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, are you aware you used the word dick versus penis in your rant when you said, "Guys are just too damned obsessed with their dicks...." after having just criticized others for the use of juvenile language to describe body parts, ie, penis and vagina? By the way, I do agree with you. Also, I tend to use the word dick when referring to a penis. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| It does sound like this year's get together turned into a real point of acceptance, SB. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too believe the United States is too hung up on the idea of simple nudity. I've written many time before of my desire to see society accept the right of people to go clothed or nude, as they choose, anytime and anywhere. Why should nudity be restricted to only recreational pursuits and why must we go nude only in "appropriate" locations, away from everyone else, behind fences, walls, or deep in the woods so others will not be offended. If my neighbors look over the fence and find me nude in my own backyard they have invaded my privacy and, therefore, have the choice to either join me or avoid looking over the wall in the future so as not to see me nude. I won't go into their yard or home nude unless invited to do so. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree wholeheartedly too, New_Adventurer. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Come on guys, there's a difference between children having fun and laughing/giggling joyfully versus brats whose parents have the attitude their little angels never do anything wrong. I enjoy kids being kids where they're joyfully at play, giggling, etc. However, I don't like brats who're so spoiled they're out of control. You know their parents have never set parameters on proper social behavior. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Pretty much says it all. I've been saying for awhile now (last few years) the liberals and the education system work hand-in-hand to dumb down our youth so they will vote for those who dole out the "freebies" without realizing where it all comes from. The woman and her screaming kids before the 2008 election said it so well whewn she said she wouldn't have to put gas in her car, etc, etc while the children shouted Obama, OBAMA, ever louder with each breath. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Welcome Cliff. I've enjoyed reading your posts including your blogs. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Here, here FireProf. I'll also join you in writing a letter. I commend the court for decidining in his favor. Chances are he's a nudist (great) and so t was easy for him to take off his clothes. But, for whatever reason, I applaud him. My daughter has talked about removing her top so she was dressed only in her bra and pants once when challenged at the Reno Airport. It didn't result in her arrest but she made her point. Jim | |
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| MontanaBill, welcome aboard. Forty-plus miles is great. Congratulations. Jim | |
| First Time Stories |
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| Billy, youy said it. Stop worrying about it and just go for it. I think you'll never wanna go back. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Good for you, SunBunny. And. let me say I think your photos look great. Remain true to yourself. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Go Republican National Committee. Using his own words against him is a great tactic. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| No, SunBunny, you're not full of it. I think there are alot more people out there hungry for information about nudism and how they might become involved or at least explore it for themselves. The cards are an outstanding idea. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| litozerk, you did just fine in explaining yourself. Indonesia is very tough on many things and punishments can be very severe, based upon what I have read and heard since I've never visited there. Being a Muslim nation I'm sure nudity is NOT tolerated. I hope conditions will improve for you in the future. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Sorry, SB, I don't want to steer this subject off topic but I've not yet visited any nudist beach anywhere. As such perhaps I'm not really qualified to "speak' on the subject but I would guess overt sexual activity or a sexually charged atmosphere, especially involving gay males, would have a detrimental effect on the general nudist population visiting nudist beaches. Any claims to or actual observation by law enforcement of open sexual activity will tend to result in a crackdown which takes opportunity away from all, not simply the guilty who lead to the crackdown to begin with. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'm not sure why my wife says she'll never try nudism, she really won't say but has told me seeing me nude does not really turn her on (obviously there's the old nudity = sex thought going on since turning her on isn't my goal 24/7). A coworker who's shown an interest in nudism and has told me she swims nude at home when alone has so far failed to accept my invitations to visit the clothing optional pool parties put on by the Las Vegas Bares - she always needs to work on her tan, lose 15 pounds, or something to avoid attending a party to learn what it's all about and it's been over a year since I first invited her to check it out for herself. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| J.P., those are two great accounts of positive reactions to announcing to others you're a nudist. I don't really think we know how others will respond until we show or tell them who we are - nudists. It really seems many people are far more accepting than we would ever believe if we didn't share our message with them. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I have heard of San Onofre, though I never visited there. However, I did drive past it several times while stationed in Moreno Valley, California when traveling along the coast between the LA area and San Diego. I don't think I even knew the name of the area then and certainly not its significance to nudism. Jim | |
| Naturist Fiction |
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| Calmnude, I hope you'll be able to satisfactorily resolve the issues. I do look forward to your stories once they resume. However, take care of yourself and family first. Jim | |
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| Congratulations, J.P., that your sister was comfortable enough to allow you to remain nude while you drove her to/from the store. Jim | |
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| Unfortunately, Jack, it's the actions of the few who cause so much restriction (bans) for us all. Because police officers face so much of the negativity in life daily, they do often see nudity connected with illicit activities. That's really too bad. And, I would hope they would not automatically assume if a person is nude in public they are or have committed a crime without investigating the circumstances first. As far as the man "jacking off" while driving, I wonder just what he was charged with. He must have made a real effort to ensure others knew what he was doing. Or, is it pssible his actions were just misinterrpreted, even if otherwise fully clothed only with is penis exposed and in his hand? What makes you so sure, Jack, he is not a nudist? I chat with a nudist online who's related his stories of driving with "the boys" hanging out of his pants when it was not possible to be at least pant-less. His wife was with him in at least some of those situations. Jim | |
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| One hundred degrees, FireProf? Yeah, I know it's hot, especially in an all black car. It hit about 110 here in Las Vegas today and is supposed to be about 114 tomorrow. Of course, Death Valley was 125 today so we had it cool, huh? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Besides sunbathing nude in the backyard I've made short visits to Las Vegas Bares pool parties. Unfortunately, they begin at noon and I work until 3:30 then wait for my wife to leave for work at 5:00 PM. The parties end at 6:00. But, I'm looking forward to clothing optional movie night Friday, July 13. It might be the height of my summer. Jim | |
| AANR Updates |
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| I'm no sales person but it does seem Susan Weaver has given a rational explanation - make AANR merchandise available for sale without maintaining an actual physical inventory which simply sets on shelves until someone finally decides to make a purchase. The merchandise is obviously manufactured elsewhere then shipped and stored by AANR awaiting purchase where it is then taken off the shelf, packaged and mailed out. Jim | |
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| Jack, I'd love to make a trip like that. Nude is very appropriate for hot, humid Georgia this time of year. You stated no one noticed or cared. Is it possible they did notice but didn't care? It'd be great to get positive gestures or comments about your carefree driving choice. Jim Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| J.P., let me wish you luck with your trip to the springs next week. Reading your story of becoming so comfortable with nudity where you're the only one is great. It's very encouraging to read you've received no negative reaction from anyone you've encountered. Maybe people really are mor comfortable with nudity than most of us generally believe. Jim | |
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| I was driving my 1997 Honda Accord with tinted windows until I traded vehicles with my daughter and now am driving her Chevy Extrme S10 pickup with even darker tinted windows. I love to drive nude and have, so far, had no negative reactions from anyone. If there ever was a concern I simply draped a shirt or shorts across my lap until traffic began to flow again. I once even stopped alongside a bus waiting for the light to change. I wasn't fully nude then but my pants were definitely low on my thighs. Still, there was no negative reaction if I was seen nude from the waist down. I agree, when driving, people are more focused on the road than what/who is in the vehicle alongside them, unless they're passengers who can freely look about. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Great point, Sanman. The last thing we need are more laws. Very few ever get repealed so new laws allowing "legalized" nudity could definitely lead to conflict since laws against indecent exposure, etc. already exist. Jim | |
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| C-O, I just read the story. What a great way of introducing women to a wonderful way of life. I intend to share the link with my friend and co-worker (the one who I invited to the expo but was a no-show both days)who's curious but hasn't yet taken the plunge. Hopefully it will be just what's needed for her to jump in. Jim | |
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| Unfortunately, you'll have to don shirt and shoes too. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Thanks for the wishes Indynudist. I have to try to find a fireworks display my wife can enjoy since we'll both have the day/evening off for the first time in years. She loves firworks and wants our 8-month old grandaughter to celebrate her first 4th of July too. I just hope the atmosphere won't be overpowering for such a little one. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Sounds very positive AZofnow. Jim | |
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| Fire, I wish you a speedy and full recovery. Meanwhile let the Prof drive and just enjoy the nude ride. Of course, I guess you'll have to be a bit more cautious at the drive thrus since you'll be on the other side where viewing you from the serving window will be much easier. Still, I'd minimize the coverage. You might even find at least some of the servers are perfectly fine with nudity and will applaud your freedom. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, I know your comment was said tongue in cheek about men knowing what's best for women. None of us, of either sex, should try to tell another what to think or do unless it is for a valid purpose. Whether to wear or not wear a sarong is not one of those issues. If men would stop being so judmental or sexist about the womens' behavior perhaps we could get them to chime in and help us understand them better. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I read on the Las Vegas Bares site this morning, Tommy, the hot springs are about 4.2 miles from US 93. To reach the best spring it's necessary to climb down a 20 foot ladder. Also, the nearly vertical canyon walls are only about 6-9 feet apart. The spring and pools are located just below Ringbolt Canyon about 1000 feet from the Colorado River. The springs lie within a side canyon. The trail starts in a wash. The one-way elevation loss/gain is about 800 feet. All the above information is actually official description provided by the Lake Mead Nation Recreation Area. Hope this helps. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, I understand your point but let 'em wear as little or as much as they want. Maybe the les is more thing will be a positive to help move them move to nudist freeedom. | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| No idea but I look forward to seeing the answers. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I'll certainly do my part, Bryan. Unfortunately, Southern Nevada is overrun with liberals since this is such an urban area. And, I guess, many thought as Majority Leader he'd be able to bring home the bacon for Nevada. Harry Reid looks out for Harry Reid. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree it doesn't make any sense SunBunny. I wonder what the reaction would've been had you been fully nude - it really shouldn't matter but, unfortunately, we're not there yet. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Tommy, I also can't tell you ther location of the hotspring. However, you may wish to inquire about it by contacting the Las Vegas Bares which plans a nude moonlit hike to a hot spring in the area on July 6. Unfortunately because I have to work the next day I won't be able to attend. Seems like a great hike, a moderately difficult six miles round trip. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I do have a digital camera which I bought for our trip to Hawaii. Guess I need to get a tripod and go for it. After all, I have a friend whose told me more than once she'd like to see a photo of me wearing only my western hat and boots. I think it'd be a kick. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Hmm, I'm surprised I haven't posted here before. However, most of you probably know through other posts I have not experienced any negative reactions from anyone I've told, except my wife who demands I wear clothing in front of her except in the bedroom/bathroom. I initially went about nude evey chance I had until our daughter's baby girl was born nearly 8 months ago. My daughter knows I'm a nudist and accepts it but says she doesn't want to see me nude. I've told three friends who have reacted neutrally. A fourth friend/coworker has shown an interest in nudism but has not taken the step into social nudism so far though she says she cleans her pool topless and swims nude at home. My mother accepted it in stride when I told her. So far, I've shared the fact I'm a nudist with one neighbor after he told me how he likes to go around the house and backyard nude when his 30-something year old daughter is not at home (she doesn't even want to see him in his Speedo he told me). But, for whatever reason, he has not approached me since I told him I'm a nudist and shared information with him about my club (the Las Vegas Bares), the Nudist Expo and associated events, and this and other sites I participate in. I'm looking forward to spreading the news to others when the situation seems right. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I have to admit I don't yet understand the full implications of Obamacare or SCOTUS's ruling. However, I'm glad it has been called what it really is - a tax. It is far too much interference and meddling in our lives on the part of the government. No person in the United Dstates, including the illegal aliens who've flooded across our borders, can legally be denied medical care. Is it ideal? No, but it's a choice made by individuals who refuse to contribute to their own welfare and expect the rest of society, through government, to provide for them. This will be a good indication of how well Mitt Romney keeps his promises if elected President, which I'm certainly hoping for, since he has promised to repeal Obamacare beginning his first day in office. Hopefully, we will see a return to a more conservative, Tea Party oriented Congress as a result of this decision. Though Harry Reid is not up for election I hope he will at least be relegated to Senator Reid as opposed to Senate Leader (a real misnomer) Reid. He has not lead since he attained the position of Senate Majority Leader. I'm embarassed to admit he comes from my state since he is a joke. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I guess I really have no problem with photoshopping, though I have no idea how to go about such things, as long as one doesn't use such methods to misrepresent themself or with malicious intent. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| While I don't think it should be mandatory I think it's interesting to see new photos to see how we've changed over time. Unfortunately, I don't have anyone to really help me with my photographs and have kept the same one up since I joined. It was taken by my daughter, at my request. However, I don't believe I could get her to do so again. I'd love to develop a full album of nude shots doing things sans clothing. Kinda hard to do solo though. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Here, here FireProf. The joyful laughter of children at play is one of the nicest sounds in the world. I don't enjoy hearing the whiny ones whose parents fail to provide appropriate guidelines and discipline but have no problem with children enjoying themselves. Too many ol' farts are only interested in what they want when thewy want it. I hate to heare them whine as well. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Nudony, I also wish "the talk" wasn't necessary. However, unfortunately nudists must live in secrecy for fear of the ramifications from the uninformed. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with you, MarcNude, respect the fact I like to be nude and I will respect the fact you don't. I wish society would get over the hang-ups about non-sexual nudity. Jim | |
| AANR Updates |
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| Brian, I too am sad to see you didn't win. Based upon your work with NCH, the first nudist expo here in Las Vegas, and securing the Nude Hotel for the expo you oviously are a eryforward thinking individual who could lead AANR and nudism into the future. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thanks. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| True, diablo. Once the ladies become comfortable with their own bodies and within the surroundings they're in perhaps they will then shed their sarongs but if the don't, so what? The primary concern should be to treat everyone with respect and make them feel welcome. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I want to apologize to all who were offended by my comments yesterday and have deleted the post in its entirety since I think any attempt to reword it is futile. My words were very poorly chosen. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Wow, detatch, perhaps most nudists really aren't as comfortable with nudity as one would think. Strange that within a nudist resort they'd rush to cover up due to the presence of uniformed authority figures. Cnbaresall, it seems you have ideal living conditions. Congratulations. It's good to read you are a REAL nudist who has no problem interacting with others who are clothed, nor they with you. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| It does seem Europe, and at least the South American nations such as Brazil, are light years ahead of the U.S. What a shame. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I would say the wear of saronfs, or as Brian said "So-wrongs" is probably a matter of fashion, trying to make themselves more attractive and unique among others. I too don't care as long as I'm free to go fully nude - don't put shorts on me, please. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Having traveled around while in the military I can certainly vouch for the lack of privacy in many neighborhoods. Privacy fences are not common in Florida, Virginia, Michigan, or Texas. When we were in Texas we had a wood slat privacy fence around the backyard with zero property line so that each neighbor's yard butted against the house on one side - no real privacy at all. When we lived off-base in Moreno valley, California there was a wooden slat privacy fence which didn't provide a great deal of privacy but fortunately, there were no two-story houses in the neighborhood so I began to practice full-nude sunbathing there. When we moved on-base there was no privacy at all, even living in a duplex with shared carport between the units. So, I just covered as little as possible without violating any laws or regulations, though I never felt really comfortable (I'd done the same while in the Phillippines where I never had any issues though surrounded by neighbors on-base). We never had any privacy in the other locations we were stationed. We finally gained real semi-privacy when we moved into our home here in Las Vegas. We have a cinder block wall which is a bit less than six feet tall. Neighbors on one side can likely see into our backyard from their second story window in one area. The man is also over six feet tall and can easily peer into my yard anytime without effort. The other neighbor's house is single story. Then, we have houses behind and to the south of us on a higher elevation which no doubt can look down into our yard from their second story windows and/or balcony. Personally, I've never worried about anyone of the neighbors being able to look into my back yard and seeing me nude. I figure if they don't want to see me nude then they can look elsewhere. Unfortunately, my wife does not have the same attitude and expects me to stay covered when subathing. I do when she's home but will sunbathe fully nude every chance I get. Jim | |
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| Driving nude and being nude in the open air is so exhilirating. Unfortunately, I haven't driven fully nude in quite a long time, usually just with my shirt open and pants pushed down on my thighs. Not the same thing for sure as full nudity. Jim | |
| Nudists Who Eat Healthy |
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| Thanks wizardo. It makes sense to me. But, unless I can get her to eschew clothing I don't think there's much which can be done about it. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBunny, what you describe is what I'd like to see as an everyday occurence throughout society - people choosing to go about clothed or not with everyone respecting each other and their rights to go clothed or nude as they choose. The only time I've had such an experience was at the NCH pool party at the Nude Hotel on June 1. The staff (chef, bartenders, porter) were fully clothed while the attendees dined, danced, lounged, etc. in full or partial nudity as they wished. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Rollercoaster, I agree resorts need to offer more. Can you imagine the opportunity to enjoy Disneyland in the nude? Obviously, it'd be very difficult to ever re-create a facility such as Disneyland for the benefit of nudists but to be successful there must be opportunities for nudists to be as active or inactive as they choose. In today's society there is just so much available for entertainment the majority of young, and older adults too, simply aren't satisfied with primitive campgrounds and such for more than a few hours at a time. Yes, they will enjoy a day at the beach, for example, but even there they want to stay connected via their electronic devices - cellphones, iPods, etc. I, unfortunately, was not even aware of ASA or any other nudist opportunities until a couple of years ago, hardly knowing anything at all about nudism, except as said by others "an urban legend", but it did seem to be much more widespread and accepted than it is today. Hopefully, the existence of the internet and other electronic media can be used to help spread the joys and benefits of nudism to get others engaged in living clothes-free or at least to accept the right of nudists to do so. Jim | |
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| It sounds great, Fire. You're so lucky to have a wife who enjoys nudity as much as you do. Perhaps she'll decide to ride fully nude in the RV since you'll be seated at a higher level, I presume. Jim | |
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| wow!! What great isight into the workings of a woman's mind. While we men generally figure, what the hell, I always look pretty much the same it seems women have an ongoing debate about their appearance and attractiveness. I know there are days when my non-nudist wife seems more confident of her own apearance. And, early on she tried, I guess, to shame me into covering up at home by reminding me I really wasn't much to look at. Of course, I happily went about clothes-free anyway, not thinking much about my day-to-day appearance. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too would prefer to see everyone, men and women, treat each other with respect. If men want sex talk and such there certainly are enough sites out there available to them to pursue such interests without acting like jerks toward true nudists, male or female. And, of course, the same can be said about women who come on too strong as well. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I don't have an honest answer. But, the few times I've arrived at a nude social setting I noticed I didn't get undressed until I saw others were undressed. When I attended the Friday night pool party during theExpo I arrived clothed at the nude hotel and observed those in the front lobby were clothed. I continued through to the "coat check room" and remained clothed as I waited my turn to turn in my clothes until I realized, what the heck am I waiting for and undressed before I arrived at the table to turn in my clothes. Is it a cultural conditioning issue and still subconsciously uncomfortable for me because I'm still a relative newbie of only about two years? Why should I care if others are clothed and I'm nude as long as they're okay in the situation? I would love to become so comfortable being nude I wouldn't even realize it whether among strangers or friends and in any setting. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Perhaps because i'm still a relative newbie (about two years now) and ave to wear clothes at work and elsewhere I stil do find it exhilirating to get nude when possible, whether alone or with others. I don't get any particular thrill from disrobing in front of others. It just feels normal at this point but I do very much enjoy being among other nudists when possible. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I hope the Wisconsin recall fiasco has ignited a huge fire under many butts across the United States. Governor Walker and Lt Governor Kleefisch both won by resounding margins, even winning votes from union members who allegedly stormed the state capital last winter to voice their displeasure at Gov. Walker's common sense solutions. Jim | |
| Nudist Clubhouse Events |
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| I also want to add my thanks to Brian and the rest of the NCH staff for all your work in putting together the expo and extracurricular activities. Since I work weekends I didn't attend much of the events but absolutely love the fact you were able to set up so much to be enjoyed without clothing here in Las Vegas. I would really like to see a nude resort with hotel become a permanent feature here in Las Vegas. Jim | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| Joru, I'd say it would be better to define what is acceptable, such as partial or full exposure. However, any sexual connotation or conduct would be strictly prohibited. Jim | |
| Las Vegas Nudists |
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| I too enjoyed the expo and pool party/barbecue. I hope it will become an annual event and woulfd love to see a permanent nude hotel in Las Vegas along with a landed resort. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Welcome Azsunude. I read through your entire missive and look forward to reading more. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I think a clear message was sent by the resounding win by both Scott Walker and Rebecaa Kleefisch. As a historical note Scott Walker's was the first-ever win by a recalled governor. I'm sorry to learn there's still a majority of Wisconsins (based upon exit polls) who favor Obama over Romney. Hopefully the figures will change and the state will go red in the November 2012 election. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| One of the most relaxing naps I ever had was sometime last year while sleeping totally nude in the hammock on our patio. I must have slept at least two hours, perhaps more. I sleep nude, 24/7 year round but only in the bedroom now. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Dang it. Forgot to eat donuts, naked or otherwise. But, I did attenfd the nude pool party at the Naked Hotel last night. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I believe nudism is lonely only because so many choose to hide the fact they're nudists, whatever the reason. Fear of losing friends does not warrant keeping one's love of nudity a secret. I for one am proud to tell others I'm a nudist and so far it has not proved a negative for me. However, it also must be a personal choice whether to admit to others your love of nudism. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Don, it's nice to have you here. I've enjoyed reading your posts elsewhere on this site and perhaps others. Jim | |
| First Time Stories |
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| Thanks for a great story, Peter, on how you got into nudism. You have described a beautiful home through both your words and photos. I'm certainly glad you and Suzanne live a true nudist life year round. Jim | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| I'd certainly be willing to strip myself. If my wish were to come true we'd all have the option to fly nude, and strioll through the airport nude as well. Also, there'd be much less need for luggage if nudity were accepted as normal everywhee. Another advantage of travelling nude would be the fact it'd be much more difficult,and perhaps uncomfortable, to conceal weapons or explosives when boarding aircraft or even getting to the departure gates. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Peter, I appreciate your hard work to help women gain their rights to go top-free in New York State. I agree we all need to push our legislatures to grant women the same rights as men. Then, we should advocate for the right to go totally nude anywhere/anytime. After all, what is wrong with non-sexual nudity? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Tina, I enjoyed your story of introduction to nudism. Hopefully you'll soon be able to live the way you want and should - totally clothes-free, as you desire. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Unfortunately, not nearly enough. In the beginning I went pretty much 100% nude in the house and backyard when only my wife and I were home. However, she has told me she doesn't like it and requires I wear shorts around the house and to stay covered outside. The fact our daughter and grandchild are with us pretty much full-time has also caused me to have to curb my nudity. On a positive note, however, I'm allowed to sleep nude, go nude in the bedroom and computer room anytime with the doors closed. And, thanks to my daughter's discussions with my wife, it's been okayed for me to attend nudist events as long as I don't come home to talk about it to my wife, though I'm sure that'll change in time when she'll want to know what went on. I hope, eventually, my wife will decide to check out an event, or several, for herself and even decide to join me in this grat way of life and freedom. If so, I suspect we'll then go clothes-free as much as possible whereever we are. If she does change her mind I will definitely let everyone know. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| naked1, it's nice to know you were able to enjoy walking through the city nude with no hassles. I've said it ad nauseam I guess, but I wish society would acept nudity as normal and we could decide, each and everyone, to go clothed or nude anytime/anywhere without negative reactions. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Glad to hear it, Cheri. Hopefully there will be mre oportunities to educate others about what naturism/nudism is really all about. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Nice to meet ya Josh. Stay nude, stay free. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Kalalau, it seems you live in paradise. My wife and I recently traveled to Oahu where it was very enjoyable but I had no chance to go to the beaches or elsewhere nude, though I surely wish I could have. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| To SunBunny and all others. Sorry if I took the things off-track. I have corresponded privately in the past with bakobd and have been shaing correspondence with FireProf as well. I absolutely don't want to take things off topic. I sincerely desire to live as an Absolute Nudist, though I may not be able to do so. BillBowser, you're absolutely right about the government being our greatest concern about our rights to go nude. Jim | |
| Just for fun |
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| It is definitely a matter of cultural conditioning which I have observed with my wife and our daughter who almost always keep some kind of clothing on our 6-month old grandaughter. Luckily for her my daughter actually removed her clothing two nights ago while she was fussing . She almost immediately stopped fussing. Keep in mind my wife keeps the house pretty warm since she doesn't tolerate cool air real well. So, I've become accustomed to it and wil simply go shirtless, with my wife's blessing. I do stay covered below the waist for our daughter's comfort and to maintain peace with my wife. I guess both women are overly concerned I'll try to influence the grandaughter to grow up as a nudist, which I'd love to see occur but realize it is up to her parents how she is raised. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, who specifically were you addressing in saying some have hijacked this forum, Absoluute Nudists, and moved away from the original purpose of discussion? You also said you don't know why some feel a need to join every group and comment. You may have been directing your comments at me. Well, I re-read the original question - Who do we have to fear most, textiles or ourselves (nudists)? If you and SunBunny feel I have violated the intent of this forum, please feel free to move my post(s) elsewhere and remove me from this group. I will then understand it was believed my post(s) was/were inappropriate. I've been referenced before, though not named, about some of my posts and activities which I wrote about, such as walking to/from the mailbox with my robe open, yet it was admitted by you, you have done exactly the same. I don't feel I have anything to apoloigize for, since I have been truthful all the way but certainly never intended to hijack this or any oher group or to offend anyone here or elsewhere. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well, FireProf, my wife did talk directly to me yesterday, giving me her "requirements". She just isn't comfortable with nudity and fells I'm not the same man she married. No doubt my past unfaithfulness, about 20 years ago plays a factor. She did say it's okay for me to socialize with other nudists, if I want to look at "dicks and pussies" but not to talk to her about it. We'll see where it goes from here. Right now we're in a tough spot with a new grandchild and my possible job loss within the next few days for standing up for what I believe is right. Jim | |
| Military Veterans and Active Duty Person |
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| Thanks for your service, olderbro. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said. Jim | |
| Nudists in Business |
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| Tarzan, you may have hit on an idea. And, you can add Las Vegas to the list of major cities with no nudist resorts. I proposed a botique nudist resort/casino to my company but learned, "In Las Vegas, certain regulations prohibit us from allowing, encouraging, or condoning any nude activities at any of our properties". I was referred to Clark County Code 8.04.270(k) and 8.20.570(i), (j) and (k) which I have not yet checked. However, there wil be a nudist hotel available during the Nudist Expo June 1 and 2. Hopefully, it'll lead to a permanent facility for nudists to frequent, showing such a venue can be successful here. Jim | |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts |
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| Sounds great, C-O. Hopefully, I'll be able to join in at least one of the sessions. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Thanks Rollercoaster. It's possible my ife and I can reach a compromise. Our daughter told me he and her mom talked yesterday, saying my wife will be okay with me going to social functions as long as I don't cme home telling her about it. It seems my wife somehow believes I'll "grow out of it" if she gives e enough freedom to enjoy it out of her sight. She's agreed it's okay for me to sleep nude and to go nude, behind closed doors, in our bedroom anytime. But, she expects me to be properly clothed (no shirt is okay) around the rest of the house and outside in the yard. It seems a primary concern is I not be viewed by children. Jim | |
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| I agree, Rollercoaster. I think the negative reaction toward seeing nude forms is the result of cultural conditioning. Jim | |
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| Here, here, Rollercoaster. It'd be great to see everyone make the breakthrough, or at least accept nudity as normal so veryone could be free to go about clothed or nude as they prefer, perhaps depending upon environmental condition (heat, cold, etc). I, of course, am referring to non-sexual public nudity since sex should always remain a private manner. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Rollercoaster, you're right - it definitely is immediate family. My wife recently made it clear she won't try to talk to me anymore but threatens to end our marriage if I go nude about the house (except in the bedroom with the door closed) or the backyard. It also inmcludes being properly "clothed" both inside and outside, which means shorts as opposed to underwear, robe, wrap, etc. But, she apparently is okay with me attending social gatherings with other nudists as long as I don't come home to tell her about it, which I have not done the four times I have attended such gatherings. However, if she asks I will answer her questions and adise her to check it out with me if she as doubts about the truth. Not ideal, in my opinion, since I'd love to go clothes-free all the time if possible but a decent compromise at least if she'll hold to it. Jim | |
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| Rollercoaster, one of my neighbors told me last week how much he enjoys walking about the house nude and into the backyard as well as swimming nude when his daughter isn't at home. He said she even complains if she sees him in his speedo. According to what my daughter told me today my wife has decided it'll be okay for me to go to nudist events as long as I stayed properly attired in and around the house. Of course,I've not confirmed it with my wife as yet after she totally went berserk on Friday. Hopefully, she and I will be able to come to a clear understanding. Apparently, she's hoping by "allowing' me to hang out with other nudists she believes I'll get it out of my system and come to my senses. She still hasn't accepted the fact I am a nudist and always will be. Hopefully we can compromise so I can get my free time while keeping her happy. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think nude staff and owners would definitely set a better mood for the club or resort. Just a thought, would transparent aprons and hir nets satisfy health regulations for food handlers? What's the difference, really, if the diners are allowed to dine nude? Hygiene shold be the determinate factor, not whether or not the food handler is clothed. Dirty clothing certainly is not sanitary, IMHO. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Smokey, real cops don't eat donuts? Are you debunking another urban myth? Say it isn't so! I admit, though I served 24 years as an Air Force Security Policeman (now referred to as Security Force) and have been a Security Officer for the last 18 plus years, I've never considered myself a real cop so I guess I haven't violated any code by eating donuts. I know, I've done a lot in my 16-year old life, huh? LOL Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'm going to make it a point to enjoy a donut (probably package of white powdered donettes, really) on June 1. It'll also be my 47th 16th birthday, since I vowed to stay 16 forever, Yuk yuk) and so maybe will be able to enjoy at least one while nude at the nude pool party at the nude hotel here in Las Vegas after the Nudist Expo. Jim | |
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| Good to hear mfhy2k. My wife is even more against my nudity than before. She is convinced it is illegal even in the privacy of one's own fenced backyard. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I guess I'll also have to go with Clothing Optional. I tolerate clothing when I must wear them but don't like it. I didn't initially make a distinction between the two when I read the question but I can see how textiles could perceive nudists as hostile if they "tolerate" versus embrace persons who elect to wear clothing for whatever reason. Jim | |
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| Fire, It sounds very positive. I hope things will continue to progress in a positive direction. Jim | |
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| Naked every second of everyday, anywhere, anytime since we're fantsizing here. I only wish it were not a fantasy and society would accept nudity as normal, giving us all the option to go nude or clothed as we desire. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBunny, based upon your definition I'll definitely have to say I'm a nudist. While I care for nature I also think the resources are there for our use. I do recycle and try not to be deliberately destructive for no constructive reason (to use some things it's necessary to "destroy" them, such as cutting down a tree or eating meat, even destroying weeds). Jim | |
| Nudist News |
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| Congratulations Brian. It's great to see nudism being reported in a positive manner by mainstream media. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Well, I have a neighbor who now knows. He intercepted me returning from the mailbox last night, wearing shorts and carrying my grandaughter. When I asked what he was doing he jokingly said, "Neighborhood watch looking for naked people walking around" or something to that effect. Then, he went on to tell me how he loves going nude in the house and pool when his 30-something year old daughter isn't home. Apparently his wife's okay with it too though she doesn't go nude herself. I honestly never knew he enjoys nudity, like me. We shared experiences a bit and he was grateful to learn abot the Las Vegas Bares and to hear about the Sunday parties here in Las Vegas along with the upcoming Nudist Expo and nude pool parties at the naked hotel. I told him about my participation here and other sites and promised to share more with him on the Bares and Nudist Expo. Hopefully, he and I can help spread nudity on our street. He agreed with me about how great it'd be to walk around our area totally nude without offending anyone. Jim | |
| Nudist News |
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| I'm still not sure we're getting the full story. It seems to me there are two disgruntled letter carriers just looking for an excuse to complain. Ik read in the original article the maiboxes had been relocated outside the gate so the carriers would not have to enter the grounds to deliver the mail. Apparently, however, it was the case before the complaint. How long had those complaining carriers delivered mail; inside the resort before deciding they were offended by the sight of nudists going about their daily lives? Shoud they not have expected, at some point, to encounter actual nude bodies at a nudist resort? My response is to grow up versus filing frivolous complaints. If ofended by the sight of nudists ask for a transfer to a new route which will take them away from the resort. Or, is this all a money game? Pay them enough money and the complaint will go away. I'm not in nor have ever been in the postal service, which does not impress me by the way, but I'd love the opportunity of delivering to a nudist resort everyday. Of course, i'm a nudist myself. Jim | |
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| I'd love to drive nude over long distances but since my wife is opposed to nudity I can never expect to do so as long as she is with me. So, the furthest I've ever driven nude was across the Las Vegas valley one time while entirely nude. Only about 50+ miles but oh so enjoyable. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Hello Kevin, Steve, and Derrell. I'm not a group owner here nor anywhere else but did enjoy reading your introductions. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Keith, perhaps we'll get to meet at the pool party on Friday night. I hope to be there as a gift to me on my 63rd birthday. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I'm sure a Democrat will "win" no mater how much support Walker receives. Jim | |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts |
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| Sounds great, Adventurer. Hope you'll enjoy the visit, assuming you signed up as one of their first guests. Jim | |
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| It sounds great. I recently learned a couple is interested in creating a landed CO or nudist resort here in the Greater Las Vegas area. I'd love to see it happen, though I guess it'd be on a larger cale than an intimate B&B. Can you believe "Sin City" has no landed resort here? There are only two clubs I'm aware of, Las Vegas Bares which I'm a member of and another I can't join because I'm a "single" male. Though married, my wife is very nude-phobic. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Bin Laden's death is about the only positive thing Obama can point to. He's always pointed to his predecessor on every failure but gave him zero credit for having begun the process of finding and taking out bin Laden. So far, G. W. has received blame at evey turn but no credit for paving the way to the successes of the current administration. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Cheri, your actions were exactly correct. Since I'm not very aware of sex toys, etc. it never dawned upon me what you meant regarding the "bracelet" at the base of the man's penis. However, from what you described it is very obvious he and his wife(?) were clearly trolling for sexual partners at your nudist event. Such "adornments" and actions (she holding his penis) was certainly NOT appropriate for a family gathering or any other kind of non-sexual event. Swinger clubs exist and with the availability of the internet and other sources it should not be difficult for them to find the kind of group(s) they're seeking. Such people have no right to participate in social nudity activities which are based upon wholesome nudity. Jim | |
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| Well, I just ran across this topic and certainly want to say I believe we are all born as nudists. After all, whose ever seen or heard of a child coming out of the birth canal clothed? I, unfortunately, didn't become a bonafide nudist until about two summers ago though I had experimented with nude sunbathing while on a solo tour to Turkey back in 1978-79, then again in the late 80s while living off-base in Moreno Valley, California. Once I moved on-base I, of course, had no backyard privacy but stripped down to my bikini underwear which I rolled down and up as far as possible to minimize the tan line. (I also followed the same practice on-base at Clark Air Base, PI while stationed there with my family between 1987 and 1991). I resumed nude sunbathing in the privacy of my backyard once my wife and I moved here to Las Vegas in November 1993. At her behest, I tried to give it up until I discovered the pleasure of going totally clothes-free in the summer of 2010 when I became immersed in nudism, never putting on clothing in the house and backyard unless someone visited or I had to go out somewhere else. Then, I got dressed at the last possible moment and undressed as soon as I arrived home. I have driven nude or partially nude on the streets and highways here in Las Vegas, worn very minimal clothing to go to/from the mailbox and in the presence of my neighbors, and participated in social nudist events. Yes, I'm a nudist who bloomed far too late. I have moderated some of my actions , such as wearing clothing in front of my daughter and six month old grandaughter and wife at the women's request, and wearing more clothing to/from the mailbox and in the front yard. I even keep my clothes on in the backyard as needed to maintain peace with my wife. Fortunately, my daughter has no issue with me sunbathing nude as long as I'm out of sight of her and my grandaughter when doing so. (My daughter fears the grandaughter will "expose" me to others as she becomes older, possibly leading to an investigation from bureaucrats about possible wrondoing on my behalf and removal of the child from her custody during such an investigation. Since I can't assure her she has nthing to fear I have modified my actions in their presence). NOTE: My daughter says she has no problem with my nudism and can simpuy avert her eyes if she doesn't want to see me nude. She did actually spend two evenings with me totally nude back in the fall of 2010 and allowed me to visit with er as she prepared for work in the nude or while wearing only her panties until, unbeknownst to us (including herself), she became pregnant and her hormones seemed to change everything. My wife never knew my daughter and I shard time together in the nude,something I wish we could and would resume. Of course, I'd like for my wife to join us and wish our daughter would raise our grandaughter as a nudist as well. Jim | |
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| I'm a member of the group myself FireProf but had forgotten it since it's not very active. Honestly, I tend to look at te newest posts and forget to scope out the groups to which I belong most of the time. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yeah, non-nudist owners can probably sucessfully run a nudist venue. However, like CO-Home said, they should probably have true nudists actually manage the day-to-day operations to help ensure a positive experience for the clentele, based upon their clear understanding of what naturism/nudism is really all about. On a related note I learned in an e-mail from the Las Vegas Bares there's a chance a couple who've looked into opening a nudist resort here in the Greater Las Vegas area may attend a pool party scheduled at a private residence on Sunday. As I read the email, they've already done alot of the preliminary work, whatever that means, toward their proposed venture. I think a landed resort can be a very positive thing for Las Vegas. However, based upon feedback I received when I proposed the corporation I work for open a boutique nudist hotel/casino on a trial basis gambling would probably not be approved for the resort. So what? Those desiring to gamble can slip on some type of clothing and go elsewhere then return to the resort and enjoy the facilities in their natural state. I hopefully will get to meet the couple at the Sunday party and share with them my thoughts. I'd love to have a resort I can attend at my leisure and, no doubt, put my wife more at ease it will be a safer environment than a private residence with people I don't know (at least it's hr argument for wanting to know exactly where I'll be when I do attend a function such as Sunday's party). I can't help but wonder if the couple might be the owners or operators of the Nudist Expo Nude Hotel scheduled for June 1 - 3 here in Las Vegas. Seeing the positive response to the nude hotel venue (sold out) may have made them realize there really is a market here in Las Vegas for such a full-time resort. Jim | |
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| I wish Fawlty Towers and the Hodges the best too. I just learned yesterday a couple hopes to open a landed resort here in Las Vegas - a real plus in my opinion. And, I hope they too will embrace nudism and all it offers. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Total, I probably haven't driven more than about 200 miles nude, the longest being about 50 miles across town one evening. It's always exhilirating and I'd love to do more, and will when the opportunity arises. Jim | |
| Sober Nudists |
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| Hear, hear, Kevin. Best wishes for sober days of nudity to all. Jim | |
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| Thanks for the information and particularly the history lesson Andy. The wife and I enjoyed last week in Hawaii, on Oahu and so I never had the oprtunity for any nude activities outside our hotel room. But, it was a tropical paradise. You and Bee are certainly fortunate to live in such a beautiful place, particularly where you have the opportunity to enjoy the outdoors naturally. Jim | |
| Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts |
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| I've just been approved and want to say thanks. C-O Home I hope to meet you and your hubby at the Nude Expo here in Las Vegas. I think your suggestion of a clothing optional B&B is an excellent idea. Hopefully, at some future date I can encourage my on-nudist wife to join me at your place to learn the truth about nudity and the pleasures it delivers. To date, we've never visited a B&B either but it seems like an ideal setting to introduce a reluctant spouse to this wonderful way of living. Jim | |
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| The trip sounds awesome. Unfortunately, at present there's no reason for me to travel to the Phoenix area. Jim | |
| Las Vegas Nudists |
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| Mike, I hope to see you both at the Friday night party at least. I'll only have a chance to run by the expo after work (7:30 - 3:30) both days due to my schedule. However, June 1 is my 63rd birthday and will be my first opportunity to celebrate a birthday the way it should be done - in my birthday suit only - with other likeminded people. I still have to talk to my wife about it. Of course, she won't go even if not working then (she works evenings, 6:00 - 2:00). We're both off on Tuesday/Wednesday but she may have decided to reire by June 1 to stay home with our new grandchild if our daughter is able to find a job soon. Jim | |
| Nudists in Business |
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| Congratulations Matt. Have you conducted any nude Tupperware parties? Jim | |
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| You make some great points, Nerd. I'm sure there are lots of folks who'd love to work nude if they had the chance. It'd also help with utilities since they'd be cooler with no clothing. Winters might require they either wear minimal cover or to turn up the heat for comfort ut it'd be their choice. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I, too, believe anytime is nudist time if it can be made comfortable enough. This past winter, due to my daughter and grandaughter's presence I had to and still do stay covered more than I'd like. The winter of 2010-2011, my first as a nudist, I spent most of my time at home in only my robe, a Snuggie, or sometimes just covered with a blanket. However, I sleep nude full-time and spend my mornings getting ready for work fully nude until I HAVE to get dressed to go to work. I'd love the freedom to go nude full-time or with minimal cover against the elements for comfort or safety's sake. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with you, New_Adventurer and FP, who cares? Aren't nturists supposed to accept others as they are? Personally, I don't like piercings or tattoos but have seen both which I thought wew attractive. And, I do like perky breasts, enhanced or not, though not unnaturally large and out of proportion to the woman's body. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I imagine quite a few couples, married or otherwise, join nudist clubs or attend nudist events for the purpose of hooking-up, hoping for a new adventure to spice up their sex lives. Or, as pointed out, the tired old excuse of "My wife (or husband) doesn't understand me", etc. Jim | |
| Sober Nudists |
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| Welcome, NakedYankee. If you have to just go naked at home, though it'd be much more enjoyable with friends. Since I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada it won't be possible to share the event with you. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Nice to meet you, figleaf. Sorry I can't drop by to socialize but there's a bit of a distance factor between Australia and Las Vegas, Nevada. Jim | |
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| Great ideas, Tarzan1. The more opportunities for recreational and social nudity the better until it becomes mainstream so nudes and textiles can live side by side wihout offesnse to anyone. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Andy, you referenced the increased population on food stamps. I have been saying, and truly believe, the idea is to dumb down our children, with help from public "education" (yes, there are some good teachers out there who try really hard but are held back by administrators and unions more intersted in padding their pockets than teaching the children)and make more and more people dependet on the government to help secure the future for those politicians who work so hard to create such an environment. Create a new plantation mentality where people expect government to provide for them, no matter the cost in terms of dignity and independence. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Andy, I think Obama can't help himself. After all, "Queen" Michelle is the only example of womanhood to which he can refer. Her only interest is partying and first class vacations while saying, "Let them eat cake". Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I am NOT in favor of banning children. I just think adults should have the choice to enjoy a relaxing atmosphere free of children if they wish. I, howeve, certainly encourage family resorts where children may enjoy just being childre, minus the trapments of clothing. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree, MiLinda, you do make a great point. I also this is NOT a matter to be litigated by the courts. I want to see nudism/naturism become more mainstream. Yes, I'm still really a newbie but I do enjoy the freedom nudism allows and just wish it were more widespread and accepted by society as a whole. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Since I've not attended a nudist resort or club I may not be qualified to "speak" on this subject; however, the term "resort" evokes luxury and relaxation to me. It also conjures up the idea of greater cost and better amenities and pampering. I guess I'd say "club" evokes more of an active setting, probably more gared toward famlies so there activities available for children to burn off their energy. In either case, it's an area where people are allowed to enjoy the activities clothes free. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think teaching children there is nothing inappropriate about social nudity within the appropriate settings is the correct approach. Nothing should occur in such environments which would be inappropriate for children to see or participate in. (Now, let me say if adults wish to swing in clubs or private residences set aside for the purpose then it should be their right as well. However, we should all be free to participate in mixed-sexes nudist gatherings where there is no focus on sexual activities). Adults should be able to enjoy resorts, clubs, or anywhere else they choose away from the noise of children, where children are not welcome. However, there should also be family-friendly locations where children may participate in the joys of social nudism, able to run, play, sqeal, and otherwise be children. The parents should take responsiblity to monitor the activities and behaviors of their children, not expect others to parent them while the parents "do their own thing." If they want to do their "own thing" free of their children then they should find a adult-only resort where they can go as a couple (if both enjoy nudism) or alone if the partner agrees while leaving the children with someone they trust to take care of them during their absence. Basically, treat it like an extended date-night where the children are left with a sitter. I think nudist youth camps are a great idea as well and would encourage their children to attend, just like textile children going to their own summer camps where they participate in all manner of fun activities and get to act as kids. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Very true New Adventurer. I wish there were more imn Washington and all levels of government who believed the smaller and less intrusive the better. Though this may read like a broken record I wish we were free to practice naturism/nudism everywhere. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Oops. Thanks, Canyonhawk, for the correction. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| A few friends and coworkers. Also, my wife, of course, my daughter, and my mother. I keep trying to spread the word when I feel the opportunity presents itself. If asked I will proudly announce I am a nudist. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I also consider my self a nudist. I enjoy being free of clothing as much as possible, though my wife keeps trying to restrict me and keep me lothed more and more. I read elsewhere nudists are nude under their clothing - it certainly fits me since i wear the minimum required, going commando 100% of the time. I have no objections to either term and do believe it is important to protect naturealthough I am not fanatical about it. I think we should use the resources available to us. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| According to the U.S. Constitution, men (mankind) is born with certain inalienable (God given as opposed to government-granted) rights, among them life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (some say the original wording stated property). I guess therefore, I would have to argue nudity is a civil right, granted by government. But, it is also a civil liberty, which again I believe means government granted). However, I believe we should have the inalienable right to go nude when and where we please as long as no harm is caused to anyone else and their rights/liberties are not infringed upon. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| BJJB, I don't know how oters may respond but I think your message is right on point. The rules have changed so much since we were kids growing up (I'm now 62, soon to be 63). It was enough tough raising my own kids by the rules and values I tried to instill due to a lack of support among society in general. I guess it's just too easy for us who've raised our families to look at the apparent lack of discipline among children today and believe we did so much better. In reality, I think it's a generational thing with each successive generation longing for the "good ol' days" when kids were better behaved. I think adults should have the right to participate in adult only resorts but families certainly deserve placess where children may be children too, including the right to go nude while at play and beyond. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| OK, CC. I'll agree the use of sheers beneath the drapes is a good idea to allow in light while thinly veiling one's nudity. Penalties seem very extreme in your town for backyard nudity. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I agree with barefreedom - open the drapes and let the sunshine in. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Until I tried to make concessions to my wife by covering up minimally in her presence I went nude every possible minute at home, inside the house and in the backyard. Naturally, I donned some kind of cover, shorts opened as much possible, robe, towel in the front yard or to/from the mailbox. Now, she seems to have gone overboard as I've indicated before - hiding or tossing out the robe and boxer shorts I wore when "required". Then, she sewed closed the fly on my pajama and lounge pants since I liked to wear them unbuttoned. With the coming warmer temps it'll be quite a strugle between us I assume. Hopefully during our trip to Hawaii next month I can get her to understand nudisty is NOT wrong and I'm not some kid of sex fiend (we haven't had sexual relations since at least last September). Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thanks, SunBunny. I do like the B&B idea. I'll definitely keep the idea in mind. I know CO isn't too far away in Arizona. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBunny, I somehow missed your post back on the 11th. I hope at some point to again have a talk with my daughter. I can at least talk to her whereas my wife seems to think she can stop me by taking away my obe and now even boxer shorts so I cannot wear them outside in front of the neighbors. So far, I've foud the fly sewn shut on two pairs of pajama pants I resorted to wearing to try to pacify her. In my opinion she is being totally unreasonable. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with you, SunBuny - wear as little as possible. I wish my wife had such an attitude so I'd have the freedom to go nude 24/7. I think the caftan satisfies the clothing requirement so as not to "offend" others. Why don't they ever consider our right to go clothes-freed everywhere? I guess society realy as brainwashed us into thinking clothing is necessary. Except for my daughter who has seen me nude and did try it with me, I always find I'll cover up when others visit or are expected. The closest I've come to be nude with other visitors was to wear boxer shorts in their presence. I did wear only my robe a few times and never exposed my nakedness beneath it to visitors nor when I visited next door with my neighbors one evening. Jim | |
| AANR Updates |
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| I too would like to know what more you plan to do as president, to hopefully further advance nudism. Jim | |
| Sober Nudists |
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| Great to hear, Wayne. Hope you'll continue to enjoy the pleasures of sober nudism. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too think the resort owners should have a right to cater to those whom they choose. While I think it's important to cater to families so children may grow up guilt-free about nudity. But, it is important everyone's rights be respected. Jim | |
| AANR Updates |
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| I'm not a paid member of AANR though I do enjoy reading and posting on the site from time-to-time. I am a member of Nudist Clubhouse (just sent payment to renew my membership yesterday) and signed up to enjoy the Nudist Expo. I agree Brian seems like a great choice and has my support. Fresh, young blood and viewpoints would be a great shot in the arm for ANNR and the face of nudism. Jim | |
| Las Vegas Nudists |
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| I sure hope to be there Jeff, at least for the pooll parties. I have to work on the days of the expo until 3:30 PM both days. Jim | |
| Nudists Who Eat Healthy |
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| I watched a brief portion of a film on the subject on iNaked yesterday morning. I'm not sure I can agree with all presented on this subject. Yes, we have moved away from our contact with the earth as we have become more "civilized" but should we condemn advances in technology? I love to be nude as much as possible and have bared my skin to chilly temperatures. However, I'm not sure I could ever bear to go barefoot in the cold. The worst part of getting cold for me is trying to keep my feet and hands from becoming cold. Jim | |
| Nudists in Business |
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| I like your idea Rollercoaster. I'd love to see everything clothing optional so we could dress or not dress as we wish. Jim | |
| Nudists Who Eat Healthy |
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| Thanks for the advice Dan. Honestly, we've neither ever heard of it. I'll try to get some and try to convince her to try it. Dan, you mentioned your clients, are you a physician? Knbowing someone has credentials adds credibility. Jim | |
| Nudists Who Eat Healthy |
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| My poor wife, who's highly allergic to so many things, can hardly walk into a clothing or milinary store beyond about 30 minutes. I guess the fibers floating in the air drive her sinuses nuts. She also suffers from non-allergic rhinitus, meaning noxious odors and such can drive her sinuses insane though she is not medically allergic to them. Too bad she doesn't adopt nudism so there'd be no need for clthig at home. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Nice to meecha Wil. I'm Jim from Las Vegas. Still a relative newby to nudism but loving it. Jim | |
| Nudists in Business |
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| Sounds great. Hopefully the opportunities to work nude will continue to expand. Perhaps it's a positive sign nudity is becoming more accepted by mainstream society. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I wish I could say no but I agree clothing is sometimes needed for protection from the elements (cold, for example) or hazards. otherwise, clothing should NEVER be required. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I also can enjoy time alone, from time to time. I do like doing things with my wife as well. However, it's sometimes nice to just be alone wit my thoughts, allowing me to do whaever I want or nothing at all, if I choose. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| New_Adventurer, I had a similar situation at work today. We have a lady who works in the casino cashier cage whose name is Naama [Nah Ahma] (a Biblical name I recently learned, and I believe a Jewish queen). I was telling her I had recently seen the name referenced on a website I frequent but stopped short of telling her it is a christian naturist site, mentioning only it involved a discussion among participants who are quite fervent in ther Christian beliefs. I held back mentioniong it was a nudist/naturist site because of others nearby who might have overheard the comments and have started to twitter among themselves about it and the fact I outed myself among them as a nudist. It is my fervent desire to spread the joys of nudism yet I again fell short when the opportunity presented itself. What is it about the possible reaction of others to the fact one is a nudist which holds us back? I did tell her I would try to find the exact reference and give her the information about what was said and where I had found it, including the site name. Why is it I am willing to write down and pass along such information but not openly share it where others might overhear me and realize I'm talking about nudism? It is a shortcoming I hope to overcome soon so I will prouldly tell anyone interested I am a nudist and proud of it. Then, let the discussion lead where it may. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'd say the difference is part-time or recreational nudists look at nudism as something to do outside the ordinary, much like any other activity done for pleasure as opposed to their normal way of life. Though still new to nudism I went full-time nude at home until my wife protested then covered up as little as possible to maintain peace. Therefore, I'd consider myself a full-time nudist. I waited until the last possible second to put on any kind of cover whether going out or accepting visitors into our home. Then, as soon as I returned home or visitors left I'd remove everything to enjoy the freedom of full nakedness. And, if my wife will become more tolerant I will resume going clothes-free every possible second of everyday, including colder months when I'll simply cover myself with a Snuggie, blanket, or robe as I did before. I did attend three social events and hopefully will get an opportunity to join others in June for the Nudist Expo here in Las Vegas but have very few opportunities to spend social time with other nudists due to work and home responsibilities. Nudity, to me, is normal and not just something to be enjoyed when I have free time. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| To keep it short, SunBunny and all others, I'll simply say us - nudists are the ones who hide behind walls, fences, etc. to avoid conflict with textile society, believeing (perhaps rightfully so) we will face arrest, being charged as sexual deviants, ostracized by "polite" society, etc. for simply going about our daily lives clothesfree. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Amen, SunBunny. Why must nudists always be the ones to give in? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| As a Ls Vegas resident I truly wish I could include Nevada in the list of nudist friendly states but it truly is not. Coming originally from Florida I can vouch for the humidity, huge bugs (mant which bite), hurricanes, etc. as dr=etractors. Of course, the further south one goes in the state the greater the abundance of sunshine and comfortsble temperatures much of the year ( a plus for nudism). So, I guess based upon my limite knowledge I'd have to throw my hat in the ring for Arizona (yeah, it does get hot in the desert but bug-free evenings with very comfortable temps make up for the heat of the day. California beaches and even the Inland Empire area around San Bernardino, Palm Springs, etc would rank high on the list for me as well if not for the oppressive taxes and nanny-ste attitudes of politicians who want to control the population. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Hygiene is an issue where female breasts are concerned? How ludicrous. The reaction toward hairy chests and backs (on men) should really send those people into a total frenzy if female breasts (generally hair free or at most covered in very thin peach fuzz) are considered unclean. I do support the right of all to go nude among society if they wish - I certainly would like to do so. But, I don't since I'm sure it would be a cause of great concern and would lead to legal hassles I cannot afford, monetarily at a minimum. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said, TXPopi. I know I need to shed some pounds and shape up but the most important thing is to be as free as possible. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Though I very much wish, and have expressed before, society would accept nudity as normal I realize the importance and need for "security gates" to keep out the gawkers, perverts, etc. Yes, keeping out dangerous and perverted individuals is a necessity, particulatrly for the safety of the children. And, I also feel nudists should have the right to free beaches, etc without harassment from the public who may go there and then complain about how they offended by the sight of normal human nakedness. They have the right to stay away from those small areas where nudists may gather for fun in the sun. Nudists seem to bend over backward to NOT offend the general public. Too bad it doesn't work the other way as well. Jim | |
| Just for fun |
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| It's at least worh the effort AZofNow. It's not like they can take away your birthday nor fire you for making a suggestion, I don't believe. At least for me personally I've noticed no difference in the actions of management toward me for putting forth my sugestion. Jim | |
| Just for fun |
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| I actually did submit a letter to our corporate head regarding the set-up of a nudist casino/resort. My letter was calmly answered by my immediate president and COO who explained current laws and ordinances in Clark County (Las Vegas and surrounding area), Nevada and much of the rest of the country where gaming (gambling) is legal have prohibitions against nudity. So, I do encourage the suggestion in the Suggestion Box. Let's stand up for our right to go nude in society. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Wow!! It does sound great Sam. Hope your group will continue to grow if you so desire. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| My daughter advised me this evening of the fact society will not accept nudists roaming freely about among textiles. I hope someday she will be wrong but do understand, as much as I desire, I cannot freely roam about nude. She accepts I'm a nudist, saying she doesn't care even if I'm gay (I'm not) but it just is not for her. She fears and believes women experience vaginal discharges which would run down her leg and ejaculate can continue to seep from a woman's vagina up to seven days after intercourse Sid she's read it and experieenced it as well). Her major objection to nudity for herself, it seems, is hygienic. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I like the term nude normal. As I've expressed before I would love to see the day when nudity would become normal throughout society where we could go clothes-free or clothed as one desires with no judgment or even raised eyebrows by anyone. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I certainly hope you're right, nakedfarmer. This country will greatly uffer under another 4 years of the socialist policies pushed by Obama and gang. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| What a great message - so friendly and welcoming to all. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think you're right, SunBunny. I believe like-minded has become overused if not outright cliche. The subject of pole dancing has certainly yielded a wide range of differences of opinion, as do many other subjects both on this site and others I belong to. Quite a number of Christan natururists/nudists see anything beyond simple nudity as pornographic I've noticed, very much like their clothed peers; Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yep, nakedcouple, you're correct. Why not just wear a bath wrap when you have to put on something? While the weather's cool I wear a terrcloth robe but will use the wrap once warm enough. Of course, I'd prefer to go nude full-time but don't live in a nudist resort or remote area. Jim | |
| Just for fun |
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| I know I'm alot more careful about my hygiene since I've become a nudist. I would never want to embarass myself by leaving "skid marks" wherever I might sit. Carrying a stained towel would be a real embarassment. Also, I gave up underwear last year for good. I NEVER wear it and won't own any, no matter what I'm wearing. Therefore, cleanliness is again important to me. By ensuring I'm clean I can be more relaxed because no ne is going to see anything unsightly when viewing me from the rear. It also helps soothe the itching and burning of hemorhoids. I also use baby wipes for the extra measure of cleanliness. They're so refreshing. Not only do I have them at home, I also carry some with me at all times for use as needed. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, you comment raises the question, what do you know about garter belts to hold dollar bills? Have you frequented such locations? Just kidding, I really don't expect a reply. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| While I agree, Cheri, nudism/naturism should NOT be an in your face experience I still would like to see a day come when those who desire to go nude anywhere and everywhere could intermngle with those who wish to remain clothed with no one even raising an eyebrow. It just seems to me it is unfair nudists must hide behind fences or walls, or at least find secluded areas where they're less likely to encounter textiles in order to do what comes naturally. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I like the idea of a CO or nudist B&B. It just might be the place to introduce my wife to the joys of nudism if she'll ever take the plunge. Of course, I guess it' be best if I could get her to give nudism a try at home first. (I think a major part for her is probably the body issue). Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Since I'm more of an at-home nudist (have only been to three total social events , all at the same residence) I may not be qualified to really answer this one but here goes. As long as the pole dancing is not done for sexualized purposes I say yes. Obviously, stripper poles are associated with gentlemen's clubs (haven't attended them either) but it has become a trend for exercise purposes. What's wrong with nude women participating in a fun exercise program? Such classes should probably not be open to males however so as to avoid sexual arousal. Jim | |
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| Wishing you luck with the new neighbors, FireProf. It'd be great if they're nudists as well so you can expand your network of nudist friends to include them. Jim | |
| Nudist Teachers |
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| I too agree parents are very often to blame for the failures of children. Another major factor is the government's desire to take over and raise the children. But, the constant rant about class sizes, etc is bogus. Why is it Asian children in large classrooms taught by a single teacher can and do outperform their American counterparts in most if not all areas? The cause is a lack of respect for teachers and learning in American society. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule so I am not saying there are no good parents, teachers, or students. But, in general, a major part of the problem our society experiences is a lack of emphasis on the importance of education and respect for educators. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I agree it is a scary time. I blame much of the degradation of America upon the failure of our education system and governmental nanny-state "services". I can remember my children (now 42 and 37 years old)coming home with A's on papers with misspelled words, no documentation of how my son arrived at the answers on his math papers, etc. It frustrated me very much but it never changed as far as I could tell. Having a friend who worked as a teacher in middle-school who " taught" computers to kids I still see the lowering of educational standards. Not only can he not solve his own computer problems (has his son correct it all for him) but he graded papers sitting at the kitchen table while watching sports on the TV. And, of course, everyone is told their failures are not their fault. Jim | |
| New to Nudism |
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| I agree Rollercoaster. I've seen men, including my own father as a child make rude comments while fully clothed. Doing so while nude would definitely add another undesirable element to the situation. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Also very interesting Olivia. I too like what I've read about the more open attitude toward nudism among Scandanavians and Germany, in particilar, perhaps even France. However, I guess I'd remain at my home base here in Las Vegas and simply travel to other locations to join fellow nudists and celebrate this great way of living. Jim | |
| Naturist Fiction |
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| I certainly enjoyed it, as I do all stories about the naturist/nudist way of life presented in a positive light. I truly wish society, a a whole, would accept naturism/nudism as normal. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I guess for me a social nudist is one who partipates in mudism with others as opposed to alone or at home. Jim | |
| New to Nudism |
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| Well said, Rollercoaster. My wife once asked whether I believed if there was not something wrong with "those" nudists. I honestly answered no. How could I? I'm a nudist myself. I also don't find any reason to cover any parts of the human body. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Just found my story on the AANR All Together Blog by typing in my name. I personally have no reason to hide the fact I'm a nudist and want to spread te word among my friends and neighbors so I may bare all when appropriate. Jim | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| FireProf, you make a great point. It's one of the major reasons I'm for smaller and less intrusive government. Think of all the money wasted needlessly trying to "fix' what doesn't need fixing. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I could not agree with you more Olivia. The people who operate the clubs should be very clear about the rules and policies, which should be very clearly written so prospective members may review and understand them even before attempting membership. If they're not welcome for whatever reason then they can look elsewhere and not waste precious time. And, of course, it could help ensure those in charge know and abide by the policies as well. Jim | |
| Nudist News |
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| Without knowing the full story I guess the coach decided it was easier to resign than to fight. If it was an innocent photo of simple nudity then it just shows the intolerance of society. However, it seems pretty difficult someone could mistakenly download his/her own photo onto social media. My few photos do appear here and elsewhere because I intenionally downloaded them - not an accident on my part. Of course, they obviously could be re-posted by others elsewhere without my knowledge. However, the fact they appear at all was not an accident since I chose to post them in the first place. I have also webcammed a few times with a limited few correspondents with full knowledge my images appeared on the internewt where nothing remains secret if oters choose to repot it. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Update, we'll be going to dinner with friends from Chicago whom we haven't seen in quite awhile. But, nothing else beyond the card for my wife. And, to let her rest as much as she wishes. Jim | |
| Naturist Fiction |
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| I really did enjoy the story. I know it's fiction and represents the way we would like things to be. As I told a co-worker today, I wish I could roam my neighborshhod (and beyond really) totally nude with absoute acceptance by everyone, whether they would choose to be nude or not. I'll bet many would if they knew there'd be no negative feedback. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| MoKayaker, I know what you mean. My wife will be appreciative of the card, which she'll either look at when she gets home from work abour 2:30 AM Valentine's morning or later in the day whn she wakes up. I will be off work, as will she once she gets home early morning, and trying to let her rest until he's ready to get up for the day. So, really nothing romantic for us. Dinner out, if she wants but that's about it. Hopefully my gift will be to announce we'll be going to Hawaii in April if I can swing it with American Airlines to allow me to use my wrongly purchased and non-refundable ticket to Panama City, Panama versus Panama City, Florida I purchased last October. Jim | |
| Naturist Fiction |
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| Thanks Cordvds for the friendly reminder. As I did say at the end of the Montessori story I enjoyed it very much ass well as learned about the Montessori program too. I'd always just assumed it was a name as opposed to a learning style designed to challenge youthful minds and encourage greater learning as opposed to the lock-step design of public schools. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I also try to live and be nude as much as possible. Last summer I went almost fulltime nude in the house and within the confines of my back yard. Then, when at home in the neighborhood I wore the minimum I thought others would find acceptable - at times simply a towel wrapped around my waist, or my robe, or jst a pair of shorts zipped to just above my groin so as not to be accused of indecent exposure. Since I still work I must wear "suitable" attire, usually consisting of a uniform. However, I go full-time commando whether at work or in a social setting. When the weather is once again suitable I plan to resume little to no cover as much as possible and hope my wife will once again tolerate my nudity without a lot of haranguing. If it were possible and accepted by society I would like to go nude 24/7 everywhere in my life. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I can't help but note and feel ANNR, in particular, may be more interested in collecting dues from member clubs, if in fact they do, than in ensuring the clubs under the AANR banner do indeed uphold and support the standards AANR allegedly subscribes to. While married I am sure my wife will never support my love of nudism or become okay with the idea of me visiting nudist resorts or otherwise socializing with other nudists so it may never become an issue for me but I still don't understand the cold shoulder or outright discrimination against unaccompanied males within at least some of the nudist community. Diablo said it very well. He is a single, middleaged male with no criminal record. Therefore, by what right should he be excluded from any nudist venue simply because he is not accompanied by a like-minded female companion? Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Not having been to a resort or even a CO beach I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment here. But, MiLinda certainly pointed out some big problems, at least at Glen Eden. Why limit interviews to only Tuesdays? And, are interviews only required of unaccompanied males? How can a resort expect o ttract new dues-paying members if they won't open their gates and arms to those seeking a place to enjoy the freedom of clothes-free recreation or living? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Great argument, barefreeom. By announcing you are a nudist, without blatantly appearing nude in public, you are furthering the acceptance of nudity. You're right, inquiring whether nudity would be acceptable at a funeral, wedding, or elsewhere would be appropriate if society accepts nudity as unoffensive. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Unfortunately, SunBunny, you're right. Far too many only practice nudity where it is "safe", whether for social acceptance, job security, or other unexplained reasons. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| I would advise them to be careful, like yourself, Olivia. If a person is unwilling to tell you anything about themselves, why would you even consider accepting them as a "friend" on the internet or elsewhere? Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| You make a great point, diablo. I too think just doing things because it's the way they've always been done just does not make sense. Where would we be if there were no individuals, willing to think outside the box? There is far too much focus on group think today, often taught in our schools and even in ther corporate world. Jim | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Figleaf, what do you base your information upon? I am NOT a Mason and have no idea what they're all about. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree walking in the neighborhood nude without any negative responses would be great. Of course, being able to go nude anywhere would be ideal. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| From my experience here in Las Vegas, Nevada no one will clearly answer the issue of what is and is not allowed in terms of nudity. Last year I wrote a letter to the Sheriff (Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department), Clark County District Attorney, and the State Attorney General asking about nudity on one's own property, including the front yard, back yard, and house, and driving nude. So far, I've heard from the Sheriff's General Counsel and Attorney General. The General Counsel stated "The Sheriff is statutorily prohibited to practice law..." while the Attorney General which "represents State agencies, boards, and commissions, and by statute " is "unable to provide legal advice or assistance to private citizens" deferred the "private matter" to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department or Clark County District Attorney, which I've received no reply after nearly five months since I sent my letter dated August 27, 2011. In both cases I was also advised I might wish to consult an attorney regarding my rights and obligations. Doesn't it seem strange two different attorneys could not or would not answer my questions? It seems law enforcement and the courts puposely strive to keep citizens uninformed of our legal rights and protections under the law. And, from conversations (not on this subject) with an attorney friend of mine the law is NOT an exact science since judges rule, at least at times, based upon their own personal biases versus an accurate reading of the law. I do agree it will take a court case, or several over a wide range of jurisdictions, to settle the issue of nudist rights. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Kamodo, I was initially in your court, until I read, based upon your own words, you NEVER actually tried to join a club for a myriad of reasons (too expensive, not youth friendly, not LGTB friendly, etc). So, I have to agree with BJJB, I think you're painting with too broad a brush and have not actually put forth any effort to create the changes you say must be made to attract a younger crowd. What exactly do you mean by "younger crowd" anyway? Family friendly resorts/clubs certainly accept a younger crowd, including infants and toddlers as evidenced in photos from the Las Vegas Bares traveling club of which I'm a card carryig member, though I've not attended any club sponsored event in the nearly one year I have been a member. I'm still relatively new to nudism and am restricted in terms of social nudity due to the fact I have a non-nudist spouse who certainly would not be happy to learn I had socialized with other nudists on a limited basis (three times total at the same residence) last Spring. I was told as a solo male nudist I was not welcome at another venue but should I find a willing partner (male or female) I would be welcome to attend. At nearly 63 years I'm certainly not a member of the younger crowd in terms of age nor interests, I'm sure. But, the one venue I did attend accepted me and other solo males who did not go as a "couple", along with apparent spouses, ranging from young adults to seniors. It is now up to you to make the next move. Tou've been advised by more knowledgeable members of the presence of several facilities in your area. Why don't you reach out to one or more and be honest about your status and sexual make-up, etc and ask if it is possible for you to stop by for a visit and tour or to spend a day checking them out? You may be surprised to find they will be very happy to welcome you and then listen to your ideas for making the resort(s)/club(s) more youth friendly. If you've been reluctant to ask if you can visit because you fear rejection, get over it. Since you already feel you'll not be welcome anyway what can it hurt if they don't welcome you? And, of course, if they do think how good it will feel. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I too don't undestand why Romney's religion (Mormonism) is an issue. We are supposed to be a nation of religious freedom. Also, why is it assumed Romney is THE Republican nominee? Yes, he has wealth on his side. However, the message should be the deciding criteria. Of the four left anyone, perhaps with the exception of Ronm Paul, is a far better choice than Obama. Does anyone doubt if reelected and no way to block him he'll become even more radical during the next four years? Remember, he said very clearly during his first campaign he was just days away from "fundamentally transforming America". Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| A great suggestion, SB. I've had the same kind of conversation (taking action) on politics with a friend who constantly bitches and forwards links to political issues he disagrees with but won't even vote. Those who sit back and wait for others to do it all for them will never achieve anything. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Casa-Banda seems like a verty good place to introduce a reluctant spouse to nudism, if they would agree to go. I think your polcies on asking the attitudes of the visitors is very positive. Jim | |
| Questions, Help and Support |
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| A great idea!! Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Personally, I have no experience with clubs so I've not been turned away for being a "single" male who is married to a non-nudist spouse. However, there does definitely seem to be a double standard applied to unacompanied males at many resorts based upon what I've read. I've read excuses (no, I won't call them reasons) such as an effort to maintain a balance between the sexes which seems to say they're trying to ensure everyone can have a companion of the opposite sex if they wish. It doesn't seem "single" females are looked upon in the same manner as "single" males. I think, deep down, perhaps it's a carry over from society in general where unattached males are presumed to be on the prowl for dates, etc. I don't know whether I have really answered the question but at least you have my 2 cents worth. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Benjamin Franklin is probably the most famous I've heard of. But, I was surprised to learn his air baths were actually nude walks. I'd read he would sit at or in his window nude, presuming he was visible to others in the town/city. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Good for you hill_billy_46. If we fail to push the boundaries things will never positively change for nudists. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too want to commend SunBunny for the outstanding job you do. You raise some great topics, worthy of discussion. Like others have said, I have to agree the topic title first caught my attention, though I tried to answer more philosophically in my first post about what brought me here. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree if I were single again making it known I'm a nudist would be important. I guess in some ways I did "spring it on an unsuspecting spouse"by simply beginning to work in the yard and sunbathe in the nude. Then, I just discontinued wearing clothing in the house. Though my wife had accepted it theough she herself would not participate. But, wen she discovered I was chatting on-line with other nudists became very upset, demanding I cease all nude activities - ain't gonna happen though. I love my wife and don't intend to ever leave her but she must accept this newly discovered part of who I really am. Should I ever seek a new mate because my wife and I are no longer together then she'll need to at least accept me as a nudist and will hopefully fully participate as well. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Kamodo, I agree. Spring break at wholesome nudist resorts might serve to keep our kids away from some of the more dangerous areas. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Great ideas Kamodo. You have said a lot in just a few words. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said, 1Human. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, I think you and your wife have the right attitude and it obviously hasn't caused a very strong backlash, if any at all. In terms of textiles coming into a defined nudist area, well they should have known what to expect when they went there. No doubt some do so merely for the sight of seeing nudists while others, no doubt, are curious and trying to learn what it's all about. In either case they knew, or should have known, what they would find when they got there. I just wish nudity was accepted as normal anywhere. That is, nudists could go nude while textiles could walk about clothed with no one being offended or embarrassed either way. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with Bigbare. I too wish for a fully open clothing optional society. I know I don't do enough to promote the idea. I also enjoy reading others' opinions, even if they aren't in agreement with mine. Randomnakedguy, welcome to the group. Please jump right in. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I say we try to use it to our advantage, SunBunny. Let 'em look. Maybe it will help generate conversation and hopefully result in wider acceptance of the right to go nude without offending others. We're not offended by their clothing so why should they be offended by our nakedness? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Here's another in the overweight class, in excess of 200 pounds on my 5'8" (more or less) frame. I know I need to lose weight and would feel better in the bargain. But, I also know the joy of enjoying the outdoors in the nude, with others who didn't seem to mind at all I was carrying extra pounds. Will I ever get in shape again (150-160 is best for me) by jogging -5 miles everyday and lifting some light free weights? I don't know. I know I should but I haven't gotten motivated enough yet. If I could do so while nude outdoors I'd probably be more motivated. But, as has been said, weight and size aren't the only considerations. Very skinny people can look sickly and unhealthy as can obese people. It seems we've all let society and the media set the standards of beauty many think we should all strive to achieve. Getting healthy should be a goal for all of us. But, healthy can mean many different things and many different body types. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yes you are SB. Cyn, I look forward to reding more from you. SB's right, we do need to hear more from a woman's perspective. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said, SB. But, to answer the question, no I don't think we should tell the clothed they cannot be clothewd at a nudist resort, as long as they're there for the right reasons and not as voyuers. Jim | |
| Questions, Help and Support |
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| Great idea, Olivia. I too like to look at a person's profile and try to understand their reason(s) for requesting to link up as friends befor actually accepting the request aitomatically. What do we share in common which would make me want to befriend this person in real-life and ot simply o the net? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I absolutely agree, SunBunny. Nudists hide from society in general in order to live clothes-free because others have set the standards of "normal" and "moral" behavior and we mindlessly conform. Since I became a nudist my non-nudist wife feels I've changed, though I am still the same person. I simply have chosen, when possible, to enjoy life without clothing. I do still dress to go to work, including the wear of a crew neck t-shirt beneath my uniform as a means of concealing the jade Buddha given me as a gift by my wife several Christmases ago. Off-duty (away from work) I do not wear t-shirts under my clothing and I go commando 100% of the time, no matter what I am wearing, having made the decision last year to never again wear undershorts of any kind. So far, the few persons who know I'm a nudist have been pretty non-committal with the exception of one co-worker who herself expressed the desire to visit a nudist resort, though she has not done so to date. She has actually encouraged me to participate in nudism, such as driving nude, but to be careful to avoid negative consequences if stopped by the police, for example, or if seen nude by my neighbors. In fact, she has actively sought a wrap I can quickly cover myself with if stopped by the police or confronted by narrow-minded neighbors. Jim | |
| Sober Nudists |
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| I just want to say congratulations to all of you who've given up drink and drugs. I have been a teetotaler my entire life, and so perhaps don't understand your struggles. But, again, congratualations on deciding to live life sober. Jim | |
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| Sounds very positive, FireProf. And, as the saying goes, "From the mouths of babes...." Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| You're right, Armadillo, but perhaps if we all stand together discrimination against nudes can become a thing of the past. Personally, I hate to imagine the idea of still more laws limiting freedom but anti-discrimination laws are created to expand freedom. Perhaps current anti-discrimination laws could be expanded to include nudists: "...shall not prevent membership (or whatever is appropriate here) on the basis of gender, nationality, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, nudity...." Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I believe everyone should have the right to retain anonymity if they choose. But, it also seems while touting themselves as proud nudists too many also attempt to avoid really exposing themselves (no pun intended) to people who share the same interst in enjoying fredom from clothing. It seems we all must hide behind walls, fences, in remote areas, etc. as opposed to openly celebrating who and what we really are. I am also careful to protect my identity and took down my address within a day of having posted it. I even shred everything with my name/address to help avoid identity theft. The point of posting full disclosure before was to tell all of you (and I suppose anyone else who saw/sees it) I am a nudist and proud and unashamed of it. Unfortunately my wife doesn't like it and so I've had to curb it somewhat in her presence nor can I freely be nude in public as I would like to do. Consequently, it does seem we are trying to hide something which makes non-nudists believe it is somehow wrong. IMH it helps reinforce their negative stereotype of nudism/naturism. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thank you for this post Cassandra. Funny, I thought in the post you've referenced here (Anonymity and the Naturist Movement) how strange it was for you to call for more openess by identifying ourselves by our real names while not announcing your own. Once again, I proudly will announce I am James Clifford Shedd of Las Vegas, Nevada. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well, I have proudly and unashamedly posted my full name and full address either here or elsewhere before to show I'm not ashamed to proclaim myself a nudist, though still somewhat a novice to nudism (about 1 1/2 years now). But, if anyone has forgotten, my name is James (Jim) Shedd of Las Vegas, Nevada. Unfortunately, my wife does not support my love of nudism and is horrified I would announce my real name on the internet and post my photo(s) along with my status as a nudist. I also don't understand why people who visit these sites are so fearful of identifying themselves to their friends and acquaintances here. Yes, I understand the information is readily available on the world wide web and may have a negative impact upon their careers or social status. And, of course, too many ladies suffer from unwanted comments from perverts trolling the sites. Therefore, I suppose anonymity does serve a role in such instances. Actually, I told my employer I am a nudist in an effort to propose the creation of a nudist friendly casino/resort within the corporation. I received a very nice letter and explanation of why it is not possible but suffered no negative repercussions. Of course, I am not within even a low-level management position within the corporation, which may or may not have bearing upon the reaction I received. I simply am not ashamed to be a nudist and not afraid for others to know it. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Both are good descriptions, I believe. A leader must also be decisive and have the moral courage to stand by his/her decisions. I am much more suited to taking than giving orders, somewhat detrimental to my military career. But, I realize it about myself and willingly step aside to allow others to lead. But, I can, if the situation requires, take the lead to get the job done. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said, SunBunny. I agree introverts will not willingly step into leadership roles and are not risk takers. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SB, public nudity and its acceptance should be our goal. However, as posted in another area, so many of us are introverts it probably prevents many from being more open and forward in promoting public nudity. Of course, so many fear, at least the perceived, threat of arrest for public indecency or other such charges which we don't even know about. Once arrested, then one must face the issue of whether to fight the charges in court. I have actually written to the Clark County Sheriff and District Atorney (DA) offices here in Las Vegas along with the Nevada State Attorney General (AG) asking for clarification on laws regarding nudity within my own yard and while driving. I have not yet heard anything from the DA but both the Sheriff's and AG representatives would not answer, stating only to seek the advice of an attorney on the issuews of my rights to be nude. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Dave, I think the answer is to walk the walk and talk the talk. That is, without violating any laws, live nude as much as possible in your everyday life and freely talk about nudism to anyone who expresses an interest or curiosity. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf - you an extrovert? Who'd ever guessed? Just kidding. You make an excellent point about one personality type, or anything else, not being better than another. We should accept and appreciate each other regardless of our personalities, beliefs, religion, etc. No one is right or wrong 100% of the time, except me. And, if believe that, I have some ocean front property with lots of beach for sale here in Las Vegas. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I've always considered myself an introvert. I'm not great in social settings. It's not easy for me to strike up conversations, especially with strangers. Jim | |
| Naturist Fiction |
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| I also look forward to the daily additions to these stories, always wanting to follow them to their logical conclusion. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Though I would like to see nudity become widely accepted I don't believe it ever wil due to society's conditioning. What a shame. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Eliminating the Electoral College would ensure sparsely populated states, in fact pretty much any state outside New York, California and a couple of others with large populations would ALWAYS decide the presidency. The Electoral College helps ensure all voters get a say in the election of the president of the United States. I used to also think the Electoral College should be eliminated until I was shown how it ensures the less populated states can have a say in the process since a number of less populated states banning together behind a single candidate can help swing the election in their favor. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I have raised the temp when necessary. Hower, usually by covering up with a Snuggie I find I'm comfortable with the thermostat at 68 degrees. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree the option to be nude or not would be ideal. And, in time, nudity would become commonplace and no big deal I believe. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I have told a few friends and aquaintences I'm a nudist, with no negative feedback. The problem is my wife doesn't support my nudism and, so, it's difficult to be as free as I'd like. My daughter who's been with us for the last month after having had herbaby is okay with the fact I'm a nudist but said she prefers not to see me nude. However, I will not hide or act embarassed if caught in the nude by her or others. Barefreedom, I'd say when standing, just act naturally in front of the camera. Those who may catch a glimpse will let you know whether or not they're bothered by your nude visibility. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I've been to/from the mailbox down the street, taken out the trash, and done simple chores with a towel, robe, or skimpy shorts and have not received any negative feedback. I have even done so with my robe open, when no one was visible, so i'm not sure whether my neighbors have observed me and don't think it's an issue. My goal is not to offend anyone nor to act as an exhibitionist but I'd like feedback if I have been seen and the neighbors find it okay. I have actually had conversations while dressed as described above, with my robe closed, of course. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Good for you, J.P., and good for the others who didn't apparently make a big deal of your minimal cover. Perhaps people are far more tolerant than we generally assume. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'm on 10 grams of Androgel (testosterone) per day and have seen the weight come off a bit. However, the others have not been prescribed for me. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Note 20 minutes per day of "Full body exposure to the sun" during warm weather. What a great endorsement for the benefits of nudity as a way of life. If more people could be convinced it might lead to more realistic views of the opportunities nudism allows us to be free. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Smokey, I agree. I am and always have been a Republican since I first registered to vote. But, to paraphrase the great Ronald Reagan, I didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me. Of course, he said Democrat. No, I haven't actually divorced myself from the Republican Party yet but only because the Democrats are even worse. JFK said it so very well. The one area I will disagree with you on in terms of America's likeness to the Roman Empire was they required allegiance to Rome, our politicians don't even require that, just the vote they hope to gain by granting amnesty to any who will come, along with welfare and all it entails. Meanwhile, American citizens continue to pay the price. America needs citizen legislators once again, not professional politicians. I once proposed a reform in Congress requiring they be paid time in grade/time in service just like our military ooficers and a limit of no more than 12 years in the Congress (House and/or Senate, military-type living quarters (barracks for the unaccompanied and housing allowances for those with families who accompany them to Wahington with everything else paid from their salaries like the military), dining halls, etc. Additionally, in order to collect a pension, serve a minimum of 20 years federal service (remember, no more than 12 in the Congress). Also, like military personnel, pay social security and taxes on their earnings. And, make them receive their medical care from military-like facilities in order not to over-burden the actual miltary facilities. Give me a good, solid third party candidate who will set this nation back on the right track and I will vote for him or her. The alternative, of course, is to return the Republican Party back to its core values, like the Tea Partiers attempted to do during the last elections. Dismantle the heirarchy in both parties. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Barefreedmon, you're right. We should all exercise our rights more to be nude or as close to nude as possible wherever we may go. Jim | |
| Naturist Fiction |
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| I'd love to read it, lordshipmayhem. Jim | |
| Naturist Fiction |
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| I loved the first installment of your story lordshipmayhem. I wish I had the skills to add to the storyline. I have also enjoyed reading "San Frescesco". I look forward to the daily, or more frequent installments. Just wanna say thank you to all the writers. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBunny and John, I really like your stories of almost naked in public. And, FireProf, don't forget the time you pumped gas while nude. I'm not sure it qualifies but I've actually been to/from the mailbox, visited with the neighbors in the next door backyard once, and out on the street wearing only my robe. The next door lady asked when we were sitting, as a group, if I had anything on beneath my robe. I said, "You'll never know" but, of course did not while everyone else, including one of the men in a robe, was fully dressed. I'm the one, too, who has walked to/from the mailbox and been out front of the house in only my open robe, always ready to cover up if necessary not to offend the neighbors but secretly hoping to learn at least some of them are also closet nudists so we could share the experience together. So far, it doesn't seem any of them are into nudity or I've not been seen by them since nothing's been said so far beyond the one question about whether I had anything beneath my robe. I wish I'd answered honestly and learned whether anyone else wanted to get naked. It was a cool evening and would've been a bit chilly, perhaps, to strip off everything. | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree, there's no way it can be 100% controlled. But, why bother to represent oneself as someone or something other than what you are? Real nudists accept themselves and others as we really are. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Why not? I guess one could say he/she really bared their soul by singing nude Karaoke or any other way. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Personally, I don't think there should be any greater concern about nudists using a hot tub than textiles. Anything which might enter the water from a naked body can certainly enter from a clothed one, perhaps more so from textiles since as FireProf said, nudists tend to be more "anal" about cleanliness and hygiene than our textile counterparts. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with you both, FreeHikingKiwi and txbiker. "Morality" as defined by society has forced us to cover ourselves with what has transitioned into costumes to hide our natural/normal nakedness. Status is certainly assigned to the way people dress, with "shabby" clothing being directed toward the lowest rung. Recreational nudity now, I believe, is usually associated with a higher strata within society but in the past when clothing was rare and priceless" nudity was common (according to what I've read) among the peasants and, therefore, considered beneath nobility which dressed in it bes finery ad strutted like peacocks before other members of the court. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Thanks Bare. I hope eventually I'll be able to return to the life I wanna live. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thanks Bill. At least she is speaking to me civilly at this point so I just plan to give it time. I hope she'll eventually realize she needs to be more understanding. Jim (Formerly) Naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Glad you're here Bill. Spending three months at Glen Eden should, hopefully, boost your chances of meeting a compatible woman who'd love to spend nude time with you. Unfortunately for me, my wife of 38 1/2 years does not appreciate my choice to live as a nudist and has basically forbade it after learning I've chatted on-line with other nudists. Hopefully, we'll be able to resolve this isue to my satisfaction so I can resume my nudism at home and in the back yard. Jim (Formerly) Naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I've had to curb my nudist activities after my wife learned of on-line chats and my daughter has been staying with us. The daughter has seen me naked in the past but prefers I at least wear my robe around her. Jim (Formerly) Naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well, I previously said full nudity but agree C/O might be the better option, at least initially, to introduce reluctant partners (spouses, children, etc) to nudism where they would not feel pressured and, therfore, turned off by the idea. I am married to a VERY reluctant spouse who recently mandated I not go nude in her presence and insisted she will NEVER go nude, even at home. Jim (Formerly) Naked and free | |
| Military Veterans and Active Duty Person |
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| Happy Veterans Day, fellow vets. Have a great day of nude freedom, if possible. Of course, I guess you' can't visit Applebee's for breakfast if nude. Too bad. Jim | |
| Military Veterans and Active Duty Person |
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| Here, here. Happy Birthday Marines. And, let's not forget all our veterans, particularly those who made the ultimate sacrifice, on Friday, 11/11/11, Veterans Day. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| As I've stated before, I wish my entire neighborhood would adopt a nudist lifestyle, or at least tolerance toward nudity. It would allow us to live the way SunBunny describes. Unfortunately, however, even my own wife is opposed to my open nudity so I certainly can't hope the neighborhood will accept my nudity. And, I cannot post a front door sign advising nudist(s) lives here. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBunny, I applaud you for living the life you advocate so strongly. It's great you and your husband can live totally nude as much as you wish. It's great the contractor understood and respected you as a person and treated the whole issue professionally, according to hat you wrote. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I applaud the SF Board of Supervisors. Being able to walk about naked in te city would be great. Sitting on a towel would be okay with me as a compromise for public health, including my own. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| A great story about your family, FireProf. I sure wish everyone would join me and hope our nerw granaughter (now 1 week old) will be allowed to go nude when and if she pleases.. My daughter is okay with my nudism but says it'sjust not for her. I've never had the opportunity to discuss it with her boyfriend (the baby's father). Unfortunately, my wife is opoposed to my nudity so I don't have any real support on the issue. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thanks Bare. Mom and granny, of course, associate nudity with sex so will be on their guard about my nudity in my grandaughter's presence. Also, so far I don't know the dad's attitude toward nudism but suspect he also does not favor nudity. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I hope to introduce unashamed nudity to my new granddaughter. I certainly won't run away as if ashamed if she should see me naked. And, I hope her mom and dad will allow her naked freedom when possible and appropriate. Unfortunately, my wife and daughter do not share my view of the goodness of nudity. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said, FireProf. I'd certainly prefer everyone be nude at a nudist resort (though I've never actually attended one yet) I can certainly understand your argument. It's like allowing non-nudists to attend clothing optional resorts. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said TexasnNewd. True equality will never exist. Still, women should have the right to go topless without constant harassment. In an ideal world all (men and women) could walk about as they wish, clothed, partially or fully nude and not receive a second glance except in admiration. But, it will never happen. And, as you said elsewhere, men are wired differently - female breasts tend to be a turn-on for most men, including me. However, I have found in a nude social setting (yes, I've participated three times) I was able to act appropriately without becoming aroused or boorish. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Though I've not been to any formal resorts (attended three social events at a private residence earlier this year) I definitely am for full nudity. When I attended the social events I very quickly shed my clothing and hated to put it back on to leave. Once back in the car I got naked agai for the drive home. Unfortunately for me I have a non-nudist, nonsupportive wife. She recently learned I'd been communicating on-line with other like-minded people and blew a gasket. I tried to curb my nudism but found I cannot. I AM a nudist and will remain such. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Covers free as much as possible. I will sleep under covers if too cool/cold but will remain clothes-free. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Hmm, good arguments on both sides. But, I'm going to say if one enjoys going nude as much as possible, whether alone or socially, I'd say you're a nudist. Those who wear clothing except to bathe/shower, change clothes, or for intimate relations definitely do NOT qualify as nudists. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| I am truly sorry for your loss, Diablo. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I'm glad to learn it's not DVT. I'd say you're wise to use the pantyhose as needed. If you want more freedom perhaps you can remove the crotch to allow your pubic area to breathe. Otherwise, do what's needed for health and comfort by preventing flare-ups then go nude otherwise. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| A t-shirt to cover the jade Buddha I wear around my neck (A Christmas gift from my wife a few years ago). But, earlier this year, after wearing unershorts only for work for the past few years, I threw them all out and will NEVER wear them again. Away from work I will NOT wear a t-shirt and certainly no underpants. The feeling is great. Only full nudity is better. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Slow to get in so my thunder has been taken. I too will say "a necessary evil", sometimes needed for protection but mostly something created by man to "protect' sensibilities - OH NO, A NAKED MAN (OR WOMAN). I still think roles should be reversed so clothing may only be worn within "clothed resorts". Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Glad to read you made the trip in good health, Kilted. I'm not in the medical field at all but I wonder, based upon your description of the pain whether or not you suffer from thrombosis, as I understand it. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I also agree nudity would not become commonplace but it'd be wonderful to have the freedom to go nude when an where we want. I could certainly enjoy going to/from the mailbox, driving nude, strolling about nude, etc. Tolerance should be the key. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
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| Hopefully, FireProf, you'll be able to convince your friend to at least try social nudity so she can learn the difference for herself. I tried to explain to my coworker nudism is NOT about sex but without the opportunity to talk at length without interuption it's hard to convince someone with a predetermined mindset. This spring was my first exposure to social nudity after becoming a nudist only the previous summer/fall myself and I never felt any sexual stirrings in mixed company despite the presence of those naked bodies. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
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| You are so lucky, J.P. and FireProf, having the opportunity to drive naked so much of the time. I've commented elsewhere but want to say here I got a reply (artful dodge, really) from the Sheiff's Office Office of General Counsel Saturday regarding questions I asked about nudity at home and while driving. The answer was "The Sheriff is statutorily prohibited to practice law, and answering your questions would constitute such ractice." Then, I was advised I "may want to contact an attorney" regarding my rights and obligations, review the applicable Nevada Revised Statues (laws) and case law on the matter. Luckily, I guess I DID contact the highest legal authorities in the county (District Attorney) and State Attorney General) via the same letter. Now I'm forced to ask the General Counsel whether I can be cited or arrested for practicing nudity at home or in a private vehicle on the roads and highways of Clark County Nevada. Wait, is the General Counsel an attorney? (A rhetorical question actually). Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Questions, Help and Support |
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| Thanks for the effort Brian. The owner of one group I wanted to join took a very long time to respond. Like FireProf said I had no way of knowing if I'd been rejected and assumed so until I finally logged on one day and learned I'd been accepted. By then the item I wanted to comment on had become long-gone in terms of timeliness. I think I never commented on the subject I originally wanted to discuss. However, I do now join discussions or post comments there from time to time. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
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| I have a female coworker who's curious about nudism and supports my nudist lifestyle. However, she won't yet try it herself since she equates nudity and sex. She told me yesterday she will not go naked in her children's presence, saying when she gets naked she gets horny and won't expose her children (they're teen/pre-teen with the daughter being the oldest) to it. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I too try to find opportunities to discuss nudism in the proper context. So far, only a female coworker who is admittedly curious about nudism, has talked with me in depth. Yesterday she finally told me she equates nudity with sex (saying when she gets naked she gets horny and will NOT expose her children to nudism). I tried to explain to her the opportunities available through Christian nudist sites to find someone compatible, a desire she expressed, but she couldn't get over the concept of nudism equaling sex. At least it explained why she wouldn't accept my invitations to try it during the spring and summer. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said on both accounts, gymnotim. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Just for fun |
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| Hmm, I think it'd be great to work nude and if only one person could be nude at work I'd love to be the one. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Just for fun |
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| If he keeps looking over the fence he must not find your nakedness offensive - no problem as long as he's not a pervert. If he won't talk ignore him until he approaches you on the subject. As I've said elsewhere, I'm trying to learn from the authorities what my rights and obligations as a nudist are within my own property and vehicle. So far, the Sheriff's Office was of no help, sting I may want to consult an attorney, though the reply came from an attorney. Go figure. Well, maybe better luuck with answers from the District Attorney and State Attorney General. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| Back on Sep 7 I stated I wrote a letter to the Sheriff, Clark County District Attorney and Nevada State Atornney General regarding nudity at home and while driving. Well, I received my first real non-answer today from Martina Geinzer, Esq., Litigation Manager, Risk Management Section, Office of General Counsel for the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department in which she stated: "You are requesting guidance regarding your legal rights to go nude in and around your residence." (Yep, it was my question in addition to driving nude. "Unfortunately, we are unable to assist you. The Sheriff is statutorily prohibited to practice law, and answering your questions would constitute such practice. You may want to contact an attorney regarding your rights and obligations, review the applicable Nevada Revised Statutes" (laws) "and case law on the matter." Well, I did contact the two highest attornys in the county and state when I sent the same letter to them. So far, I've received no reply. However, I don't intend to stop there since I will address the issue of law enforcement in those matters, asking if I am subject to citation or arrest for practicing nudism, or near nudism as I outlined in my original letter. With a straightforward answer there should then be no surprises since I am and always have been a law abiding citizen. Jim Livin' nude and free P.S. Does anyone know, short of mailing a letter to AANR, how I can address this issue to the staff to learn whether the organization will take up the cause? Snail mail will just take longer to get it there whereas if I can send it electronically they will receive it, and hopefully respond, sooner. | |
| Just for fun |
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| Why worry Polomon? If the reader said nothing nor acted awkwardly then why worry he/she might be offended? And, what right do they have to be offended about your nudity within your own private space? Jim Livin 'naked and free | |
| Just for fun |
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| Polomon, why not just make it clear you're a nudist then the decision to "go to" you on everything will be their own. Who knows, you may find at least some of the neighbors and friends will support you or even join you in the nude themselves. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Since I'm not really business-minded I think I have to agree with Gordon. Certainly, finances MUST be considered. Rules about what will/will not be allowed are also a must. And, don't foget the legal issues, including liabilities, etc. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| The question: Do you ever do backyard naturism? The answer is yes, as I've stated before. And, I wrote a letter to the Sherriff, Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department (LVMPD); the Clark County District Attorney, and the nevada Attorney General on the subject asking clarification regarding my rights in such regard. Today i received a reply from Ms. Martina Geinzer, Esq., Litigation Manager, Risk Management Section, Office of General Counsel for the LVMPD which artfully dodged answering my questions regarding a clear interpretation of the state, county, city and other applicable laws or ordinances. Bottom line, Ms. Geinzer stated: Unfortunately we are unable to assist you. The Sheriff is stutorily prohibited to practice law, and answeering your questions would constitute such practice. You may want to contact an attorney (ISN'T SHE AN ATTORNEY?) regarding your rights and obligations, review the applicable Nvada Revised Statues (LAWS) and case law on the matter." NOTE: All parenthetical, capitalized inserts are mine and do not appear in Ms. Geinzer's response. My response will be to ask since the questions were so artfully dodged can I be cited or arrested for any of the instances I cited in my original request for information. I believe it will require a straightforward answer, supported by applicable statues. And, if anyone can tell me how I may attach my original letter, the response I received, and my intended follow-up letter to this so you may read it for yourselves. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| First of all, Congratulations SunBunny and everyone else for making this site such a prolific place to meet and greet each other, including our newest members. SunBunny, it is your superb leadership which has lead to such activity (I was going to say activism) on this site. Thank you very much. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Dudes |
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| Steve, you are in such close proximity to Cypress Cove (Kissimmee) I can't believe you've not made it there. I sure wish there was a resort in the Las Vegas area I could visit on occasion. Unfortunately, though, even the private venue I visited three times earlier this year no longer seems to be active since I've received no posts in forever saying there's another gathering. I'm a member of Las Vegas Bares but they meet primarily on weekends when I'm busy at work. Then, I'm not allowed at the other location since it's for couples only and I've found no one to attend with me. Just whining a bit I guess but I think Cypress Cove gives you excellent oppoortunities to experience the whole resort atmosphere, based upon what I've read. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I definitely vote for the right for women to be top free. I believe we should all have the right to go totally nude in public but, as stated regarding women's right to go top free it is ILLEGAL in most areas. Nudists, in order to enjoy their freedom, must do so behind fences, closed doors, etc. Why? Why not turn the tables and require clothed people to hide from public view? I realize I can push this to the point of absurdity but nudists have given up their rights to the dictates of society, even when there is no law which actually prohibits us from going clothes-free. I have actually written to the Sheriff, District Attorney and Nevada Attorney General to ask for clarification on what is or is not allowed in terms of nudity in one's own yard or while operating a motor vehicle. I'm still waiting for a reply. Concerning the food/nudity issue, I agree with FireProf, as I often do on a number of issues. I think the major concern should be sanitation and food versus nudity and food. How is a naked body any different than an unwashed, clothed one? One final comment, wouldn't nudism in office buildings help contribute to environmental health (the planet's temperature) since temps could be raised for the comfort of the nude bodies working there? Just a thought. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Military Veterans and Active Duty Person |
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| Haulnoil, Can you be more specific when you say things have changed in the military since you served? I served 24 years in the Air Force (All as a non-nudist, unfortunately except for nude sunbathing during my last assignment while living off-base). While in the Phillippines and after moving on-base at March Air Force Base I'd sunbathe in only underwear pushed and pulled as low/high as I dared without exposing my penis and anus and never heard any complaints. I do recall a nude sunbather at our barracks at Tan Son Nhut while stationed there (Nov 1970- Jun 1972) but didn't even know about nudism then. Are you saying the military has cracked down on nudism? If so, do you know how or why? Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Congratulations, Roxxy, on your first experience. It's nice to know your husband feels comfortable enough to, first, leave you alone with those other nude strangers and, secondly, to actually encourage you to go alone to the resort when he must work. Enjoy your new-found naked freedom and make the most of it. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Welcome, FastFive. I hope you enjoy every minute of clothes-free time. I for one will encourage you to take the step into the backyard and anywhere else you can find the oppoortunity to go nude , hopefully with others. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Congratulations Wayne and AZ on your positive experiences. As I've written elsewhere in the past I told one female co-worker and she's been fuly suppoortive of my nakedness though we've never visited any events together. (She expressed interest in doing so someday but always found a reason not to this summer). And, the male friends I've told haven't really reacted at all like it's really no big deal. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Great advice from both Andy and Sunbunny. The "friend' is obviously only interested in the sexual aspect of nude camming which should never be about focusing on one's genitals. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Welcome to NCH, Jack. As far as showing you the way...take every opportunity to go clothes-free as much as possible wherever you can. Unfortunately, unless you live year-round in a nudist resort you'll have to wear clothes when not on your own property or at least that of nudist friends and family. I practice nudism everyday in my home and backyard then wear as little as possible (shorts or towel/robe) in the front yard for example. I have also driven around town nude a few times and will wear my shirt open, along with my pants or go shirtless in the car most of the time. Read the sage advice of others such as Sunbunny, FireProf, Smokey, etc. You'll gain great insight into this wonderful way of liuving. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I absolutely agree women should be allowed to go topless, just as I agree we should all be able to go about in any level of nudity we prefer. As was stated, laws refer to lewdness not nudeness but most of us have been conditioned by societal mores to believe nudity = lewdness. I admit, due to my societal conditioning I do pay attention to women's breasts, like most males. However, I have found as I spend more time with nude women the sexuality equation becomes less and less. Women, unfortunately, have been led to believe the sight of bare breasts will turn men into raving sexual maniacs. Women should have the right to enhance their breasts if they wish, or to not enhance them as well. If opposed to the thought of cosmetic breast enhancement would one argue a breast cancer victim should not have reconstructive surgery if she wishes to replace what she has lost? If womem, en masse, would exercise their rights to go topless in public in time the shock factor and titillation would go away and the sight of women's bare breasts would no longer trigger hormone spikes, even among young virile boys and men. In more primitive societies, where minimal clothing or total nudity are the norm, the sight of bare breasts or naked bodies does not lead to sexual orgies and sex crimes, except amongst the sexually suppressed Westerners who stumble upon such sights. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Sunbunny, let me also thank you for working so hard to make this an active and interesting group. I'm Jim of Las Vegas where i'm employed as a Security Officer at a major Strip resort/casino. I'm married to a non-nudist who at leasttolerates my nudism at home, including the backyard. I retired after 24 years from the Air Force in February 1994 but moved to Las Vegas in November 1993. My wife also works on the Strip at another major casino/resort. I became a nudist only last year and regret not having adopted this wonderful clothes-free way of life long ago. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Sitting on towels seems to be accepted nudist etiquette but why the requirement to cover one's genitals when entering an easting establishment? Soon, it'll lead right back to having to cover one's body while in public. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Have a great time, Roxy. I've only been to nudist social events a total of three times myself, at a private residence where the owner said his goal was to create a near-resort experience. Since I'm a male it may be different for me but I felt comfortable right away. You mentioned your neighbors peeking at you from their upstairs windows. Does it bother you at all? If not, then you'll have absolutely no problem being amongst other nudists who will NOT stare or try to steal sideways glances at you since nudity will be common and everywhere. Have a great time. Hopefully your husband will be able to join you soon. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, I can't wait, if necessary, to get home to get out of my clothes and wait until the last possible moment to get dressed when going out. And, I drive nude or as near nude as possible every opportunity I get. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I go nude as much as possible, mostly at home. I came as close as I thought I could while visiting friends in their home the other night. While the ladies sat in the jacuzzi, suited, and my friend swam laps in his pool (also suited) I sat shirtless in my shorts soaking my feet and lower legs in the jacuzzi (fighting a head cold). Then, when we went inside I never bothered to put my shirt on again while everyone else did get dressed, until my wife and I got ready to leave, then unbuttoned the shirt as soon as we got to the car (would've loved to have gotten naked for the drive home but my wife won't yet support the idea, though I've never actually suggested the idea to her. Had the friends suggested going nude or gone nude themselves ((I recently told him I'm a nudist), which I'm sure they would never do, I would have happily joined them, probably to my wife's horror. I've also driven nude on occasion, even in daytime, and hope to do more since I've written al letter to the sheriff, DA, and AG to ask whether it is against the law. If not, I'll definitely drive nude. I also am naked in any hotel/motel room from the moment I arrive and can undress until I leave the room. And, I will sleep nude when visiting family and friends, as I did when visiting my mother in early August - even going to/from the bath nude during the night. Now, knowing she's okay with my nudity I hope to go nude fulltime when visiting in the future. So, I guess I can say I'm nude normal. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Guess you're right FireProf. Let me say I fully support the idea of nudist families now I've become a nudist myself. Initially, I thought I'd be uncomfortable being nude around/among children but since it is so natural I think I'd be perfectly fine with nude children at play or otherwise. I simply wish I'd become a nudist in my youth and raised my own two children as nudists, as well as our grandchildren. Unfortunately, none of those events ever happened. jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Ohhh, if only we Americans could be more like the Europeans, at least the Scandanavian and Mediterranean sectors of the continent. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could walk about in parks, at beaches, or even shopping malls and witness nude or partially nude people enjoying themselves in any state of dress or nudity and not being seen as anything other than normal? Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Kids should be allowed to be kids, no matter the setting. However, it is NOT everyone else's role to raise them while their parents allow them to run wild. Since I've not been in a nudist evvironment with children I can't speak to their behavior. However, it seems from what i've read here and elsewhere, nudist/naturist children seem to be quite well behaved. Te sound of children having fun at play is a pleasant sound we should all enjoy. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'm jealous already, SunBunny. Sounds like a great life you live. Have a great time, winter or otherwise. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Though I traveled to Viet Nam, Turkey, and the Phillippines while in the Air Force I never experienced social nudity in any of those places. I did hear there was a nudist beach in Turkey but never got there (I wasn't yet a nudist myself). Everything I've read about social nudity elsewhere seems to be most prevalent in Europe, though. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| I wrote and mailed a letter last week to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Chief (Clark County Sheriff), the county District Attorney, and the state Attorney General in which I asked about nudity in one's own backyard (including being in view of neighbors' second story windows and the street in some instances), appearing in front of uncovered windows within ones own home, minimal coverage requirements in the front yard and while going to/from the mailbox or while visiting neighbors, and nude driving. I'm still waiting for a response but so far I've nort been visited at home nor work by law enforcement either. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| So far I've not spent time nude with children and before becoming a nudist was not in favor of the idea. But, after visiting here and other sites I believe family naturism (invoving children of all ages) is definitely the right way to approach nudism. If started young they will probably develop a natural perspective about nudism and will eventually break down the barriers in society. I fully support the idea of exposing children to nudism at a very early age and throughout their lives into adulthood and hope they, in turn, will raise their own children as nudists. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Like FireProf, go nude as much as possible, though I'll probably have to spend most indoors. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Even a lone nude swim in an apartment complex pool is better than no time to be nude outdoors. Though I don't have a pool I am lucky enough to have a backyard in which I can go nude. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist News |
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| I tped the site into my browser and was able to get to AZ (Arizona news) but it state the post I was seeking could not be found. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Las Vegas Nudists |
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| I wrote and mailed a letter to the Chairman and CEO of MGM Resorts International earlier this week suggesting development of a nudist casino/resort, hopefully on the Las Vegas Strip. No response yet, of course. I'll let you know if I get a response. I explained I'm an employee and nudist as well. Furter, I suggested if the corporation wantsed to judge interest they begin small or actually provide nude cruises initially. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| While true you may not expect privacy in public there are still standards of acceptability in public situations, at least among textile;.e., you may not photograph young children without permission or take upshots beneath a female's skirt without permission, etc. Therefore, nudists should be afforded the same protections against pornographic uses of their images. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Questions, Help and Support |
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| What do you mean by "pre-authorization"? It seems to me they already contreol who may or may not join their groups. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| So glad you could join us, J.P. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Best wishes, Alex. Hope you'll feel really welcome here. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| Read my post above and you can see why I need to review my draft again before it goes out. Just looking at it again I found some misspelled or incomplete words. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| The best thing for me is being free of cumbersome and restrictive clothing. It seems like my skin can breathe better. I very much enjoy the feeling of naturalness when uclothed. Last week, for example, my wife and I went to a clothed resort last week with friends and I didn't even want to go into the water since I'd have the wet soggy swimsuit hanging on me once I came out. If i could've gone nude it ould have een so much better - no clinging swimsuit and the feel of water and fresh air on my skin. I guess we really get kinda spoiled as nudists. i can hardly wait to undress when I have the chance to get naked or even partially naked, which just reinforces my desire to get out of everything but my skin. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| Cape, I drafted my letter last night and plan to view it again for errors, omissions, etc. beore I actually print (or rint) it and mail it out. I will defnitely share whatever feedback I receive. Hopefully, this will jumpstart a letter campaign across the country to get the ral story on what is and is not allowed within or own homes, back yards, and along our neighborhood streets. Jim, Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| It is good to have you back, SunBunny. Well, my summer wasn't as exciting as FireProf's but I did work on my overall tan at home, pretty much have been nude at home as much as possible (almost always), and did some limite naked drivig. Also, told my mother I'm a nudist and got no disapproval from her. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| Well, I've taken the first step, by drafting a letter I've not yet rinted and sent, to the Sheriff, District Attorney, and State Attorney General asking for plain language on the laws governing nudity in one's own back yard, inside one's home, while driving, and minimum requiirements to appear in public view in the front yard or to check mail or visit neighbors down the street. I want to go over and refine the letter before sending it on to ensure I've covered (no pun intended) all matters. Once I get a reply(s) i will post the answer(s) here. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| This is a great discussion. Though I've not done so I think I'd very much enjoy going the more naturist rute in terms of nudist activities. I've had limited exposure (a total of 3 times) to social nudism and enjoyed it very much. I'd probably have to restrict myself to saltwater since i have a fungal condition in my feet which might flare up in the "best conditions" for an attack - non-chlorinated fresh water. The last one occurred when I was a young teen after I swam in crystal clear water in a Georgia swamp. Perhaps the mud I slogged through to and from was the culprit but I don't want to take the risk. I have gone barefoot in the yard for several years, although as a young child I was advised to not even walk barefoot on the floor due to fear of a flare-up. So, I'm kinda reluctant to risk it even now at age 62. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Condition, I believe, is the reason nudity is considered to be awful. Almost from the moment we're born, unless lucky enough to be raised by naturist parents, we hear it is wrong to be seen nude. Oarents hide their own nudity from their children and, of course chase after and scold them for running about naked, especially in sight of others, particularly non-family members. To use the language I grew up with, parents I belive fear their neighbors, friends, relatives, etc. will consider them to be "heathens" if they allow their children to run free. What a shame we have allowed society to pressure us to hide our nakedness except amongst like-minded company. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Military Veterans and Active Duty Person |
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| Yes, i'm proud of my 24 years of active duty service with the Air Force. However, it's behind me now. I do have a Veteran license plate on my car but it's all which shows I'm a veteran since i also don't walk around with anything saying I served. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Andy, your point about the Democrat controlled classes is just the way I feel. And, I believe the public education system (Union) has been very culpable in dumbing down our kids to help keep them down and "in their place." A friend who blogs ended her blog with the following slogan, "2012 - the end of an error." I think it's kinda catch myself. Guess I'll have to watch the video when I'm not too distracted to follow the intelligencia Keith and Jeanna talking about howgreat the savior O is and how Herman Cain is an Uncle Tom. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| I've got the same problem, softie. Mine tried to reinforce her desire to put on something by telling me seeing me naked did not turn her on. So, what's new? We nudists understand it's not about sex. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Every oportunity I get. I too like to lay in the sun after coming home from work. When I do gardening there I like to do it nude as well. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| Congratulations, Ev. It seems like progress has been made with your wife. Perhaps now she'll feel more relaxed about being nude at home herself. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nude Massage |
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| I've only ever experienced Swedish massage but find it very relaxing. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Armadillo, it's too bad you didn't feel safe enough to drive nude as well. I've done so on short trips here in Las Vegas and the feeling was exhilirating. I also like to remain nude as much as possible at home. I just wish I could walk to/from the mailbox, etc. while nude too. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Pacific Specific |
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| Thank you, Andy. While I'm sorry for the loss of this young patriot but I'm glad to see he was honored in such an outstanding manner by the people of Hawaii. The response has been so much different since our young men returned home from Viet Nam where they were treated like lepers and worse. Jim | |
| Questions, Help and Support |
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| Good idea, though I find the newest last to be standard practice on all the sits I visit once i open a topic. So, i just hit END and backup if I need to to read any I haven't seen yet before readin the latest. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Not yet for me, though I crave the freedom to go nude 24/7 anywhere I wish. I do all I can to wear clothing as little as possible and then the minimum possible if only going to the mailbox for example. It now entails a pair of short unfastened at the waist and unzipped as low as possible without them falling off. The alternative is simply a towel wrapped round my waist. Once winter returns I'll replace the shorts or towel wth my robe unless the weather's extremely cold. It worked well last winter (my first as a nudist). Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| nude driving |
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| Remember, guys, a traffic stop would be a jurisdictional thing, depending upon where it occurred. The only way to ever get a firm and definitive answer on the situation will be for someone to be charged and then fight it in the courts all the way to the Supreme Court of the U.S. (which I don't believe would agree to hear the case) to get a ruling which would apply to all jurisdictions. Othewise, it'd have to be a state by state law at best. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| So far I've had no issues with the neighbo, even though my uyars really is NOT privatized beyond the surrounding cinderblock wall and side gate with perforated screen (notice I didn't say opaque screen. And, in the evenings after work I actually lie on the chaise lunge fully naked on the side of the house where anyone can walk right up to and enter the side gate since it's the only sunny area available as the sun goes down. Right now it's time for me to go to the same side yard for some morning sun since the sun's not hig enough yet to "light up" the backyard. I believe if I ever get a warning I will ask for specific language from the Officer and then ask an attorney friend to defend me in courrt if it reaches that level. No, i'm not lookjing to become "the example" or to go to jail but I don't want to see my right to freedom eroded away by a nanny state which creates laws or simply acts "because I said so". Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Questions, Help and Support |
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| FireProf, You're exactly right about the frustration of asking to join a group the waiting without any kind of acknowledgement. I asked for approval many months ago to join one of the groups her on NCH and finally, after basically giving up, received approval yesterday. And, i've already posted my first three messages, including my thanks for approving my participation. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| Since I also participate on the AANR website I'm gong to pose the question regarding their championship of the right of nudists to go free on/in their own property. After all, they list areas on public (state owned)lands where nudists may enjoy and practice nudism without fear of arrest, etc. And, state-owned (whatever the level) means the lands belong to all of us, nudists, non-nudists, or otherwise. I guess the only way to challenge such ordinances or laws against the right to go nude on one's own property is to face arrest and trial where the matter can be ruled upon in a court of law. Unforunately, there are few who can afford the expenses or will willingly face the consequences of public exposure as nudists (perverts in the minds of many). Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| Man, what a screwed up and totally inappropriate use of resources (law enforcement) IMHO, Bare. I knew from other posts you'd had problems with the police but didn't know just why. Too bad busybody neighbors can easily find something to be offended about. But, I have to ask, was your neighbor able to look into your yard without having to peer over a fence or other obstruction or is your yard unfenced? What really is indecent about the human body? Certainly, some are more aesthetically appealing than others. I'mcertainly no specimen of male fitness or masculinity as shown in the media. our neighbor, IMHO, is gutless not to have talked to you first, assuming he or she had not. Are there young children involved? Did you exhibit an erection or other eroticism in any way? These are basically just rhetorical questions since I'm sure neither was the case. Jim Livin' naked and free (at least until I "offend" a neighbor or other outsider) | |
| Nudist Legal Discussions |
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| I just want to say thanks for accepting me as a member of this group. I'm not sure, as a layman, I'll be able to contribute but I'm sure I'll have viewpoints to express from time to time. I'm still, in my opinion, a newbie in terms of nudism/naturism since deciding only last fall to live as a nudis. Again, thank you for acepting me here. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| New to Nudism |
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| SL, Did you mean should NOT be afraid to tell the kids? My wife spilled the beans to our daughter about my nudity and I just quietly explained to her I was in fact a nudist. We had a couple of great talks and she even joined me a few times in getting nude or partially nude. Unfortunately, she has failed to continue but I have hopes she will return to nudism full-time, if not to share time with me at least on her own while young enough (currently age 36) to truly enjoy this wonderful way of life. Of course, I've still gotta work on my wife who at least tolerates my own nudity around the house and in the back yard. I can even go out front minimally dressed in a pair of shorts loose at the waist and unzipped most of the way without any comments from her. And, so far, nothing negative from my neighbors. Isn't it grat to live nude? Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| nude driving |
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| Probably but I'll always wonder. would still like to test the waters at some point to know what the limits are but also don't want to be arrested. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Simple, I've begun signing emails and posts as " Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| nude driving |
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| I also was not caught driving nude but was stopped for speeding about three Sundays ago on my way home from work. I was shirtless and had my pants pushed below my butt though my groin was covered. Anyway, before being pulled over I was able to pull up and zip up my pants. I didn't get a ticket and was simply told to slow it down. But, the Officer did make a comment about not being able to wait to get home, whatever he meant since I'm sure when he stopped behind me he could see I was pulling up and zipping my pants. Of course I go commando full-time so if I'd not gotten my pants up I'd have shown a good amount of flesh. Like both of you I also wonder what would happen if I were found nude while driving. Wouldn't it be fantastic to learn it's 100% okay with law enforcement? Bet there'd be a lot more nude drivers on the highways and by-ways then. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I do agree nudists are cool (very accepting of others) people. The world, as said by oters, would probably be a much more peaceful place if we all share a commonality and love for wholesome nudism. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Sounds very positive, Wayne. Hopefully she will follow through and become a nudist convert, if not already. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Though I've never participated nor seen live body painting events I too enjoy some of the beautiful artwork I've seen exhibited. And, like you tennis-nude, I think it might serve as the gateway to a wider acceptance of public nudity. Some of the pictures I've seen really require a close look to separate the paint from form fitting clothing. I very definitely prefer the paint since it still allows one to observe the nude form in its beauty. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Wow, what a great discussion in the last three comments. Gordon, your comment about history brought a notion to my mind, if I'm right. It seems the powerful and ruling class throughout history always dressed in finery as a symbol of the stion in life while the lower classes wore very basic garb OR no clothing at all while toiling in their masters' fields, factories, etc. Based upon what I have read elsewhere, early Christians (slaves to the Romans and others) labored nude in order to protect and preserve the very basic garment they might own. My point is clothing has served as a symbol of higher status (think a Brooks Bros suit or designer dress) than the nude body and, therefore, has resulted in a sort of snobbery toward nudism. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| So true, FireProf. Still, we can hope, can't we? Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'm glad to see things moving toward a more positive view of non-sexual nudity. Wouldn't it be so great if we nudists ever became the not-so silent majority and could go about everyday activities without concern of offending others or experiencing arrest for our public nudity. Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Great point. I once took out the trash in only a g-string so I was legally covered, as far as I understand Nevada law on the subject. And, I never got any negative feedback or comments from any of the neighbors, about whether they saw me or not. NOTE: I didn't wait until after dark to do so either. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I haven't herd an inordinate amount of news on nudity. However, Alex Trebek's recent admission he pulled on his underwear to chase a room burglar down the hall of his hotel got attention among the entertainment shows at least. Personally, i think positive repots about non-sexualized nudity are a good thing. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I don't really have an explanation for why nudity is considered to be so bad. However, as was said, a whole lot of industries would not exist if nudity were the norm - another unmentioned one would be the current clothing models, some "super models" which has grown out of man's obsession with clothng human forms. Jim | |
| Nude Massage |
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| Yes, Tennis_Nude, The Nanny State has served to "protect us from ourselves" to the point of eroding many of our rights and taking away personal responsibility. While there are certainly good reasons for law and order for the good of the whole far too many laws have been instituted by a few who want to push their viewpoints onto the majority, thus taking away our rights - to drape or not to drape during massage being one of them. I think draping should be a decision between the massuese and the client - nakedness does not automatically mean there will be sexual contact, as the laws were written to indicate. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Nude Massage |
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| Great information Tennis_nude. The suggestion about including it on the consent form is a great idea. I wonder how many other states have such laws they don't want to become widely known lest people start to ask for no draping during massages. The Nanny State drives me crazy sometimes. Adults should be able to make their own informed decisions. Jim Livin' naked and free | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Labrat, I was able to get certified without meeting any admins or chatting on-line by sending two forms of picture ID (retired military ID and drivers license) along with other ways for them to read my story. It might be worth a try for yoy, though I can't guarantee anything. Jim | |
| nude driving |
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| The only thing better, FireProf would have been naked golf. Jim | |
| nude driving |
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| Congratulations, FireProf. I'd love to know I'd have no issues if seen nude behind the wheel. Man, talk about a feeling of total freedom. Wow!! Also you comments under nude RVing/Camping. Sounds like a great plan you and the Prof have for your trip up north. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| It all sounds very positive, txbiker. I'd love to create such an environment in my home. Jim | |
| Nudist Teachers |
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| Hello TSB from another Jim. Glad to have you aboard. So, there's actually a nudist schhol in Corpus Christi? For what ages? And, how does one go about registering their children (if children) there? Or is it strictly for adults? Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Sounds very positive BJJB. I keep hoping someday my household can be totally clothes-free despite who might be present. (Currently, it' only my non-nudist wife and I). Jim | |
| Military Veterans and Active Duty Person |
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| Great point, Gordon. Though I never went nude on-post, I did sunbathe, particularly in the Phillippines, as near-naked as possible without any repercussions. While in Viet Nam I recall one guy who dis sunbathe nude behind the barracks and nothing, as far as I know, was ever said. Keep in mind, we were Security Policemen which meant some of us were also the base law enforcement personnel. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I think I do remember the story about the man offended by the 2-year old girl. I wonder how he felt about boys and men going topless? Some people just seek things to complain about. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Thanks for the advice, Bare. I will keep your advice in mind. Jim | |
| nude driving |
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| Hey, cops have a lotta testoterone and do appreciate nice naked or near-naked figures like most of us. Cover charge? Guess it'd have to be pretty inexpensive since they don't cover much. Ha, ha. As far as your road trip, get a nice room for some great nude time!! Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Sounds great, FireProf. Earlier this year I helped my next door neighbor put a roof on his shed while dressed only in a pair of unlined, wide-legged shorts (more like underwear). He never said a word but my wife brought me a t-shirt when she saw how I was dressed. To her, the shorts are intended only as at-home loungewear. The same neighbor came over one evening after I'd returned from running errands and was standing in only my unbuttoned shirt which didn't quite reach the bottom of my butt as I was standing with my back toward the open garage door. I only heard him say "Oops" and walk back to his house. I just slipped on my shorts and walked over. Nothing was ever said. And, I'm sure he's seen me nude in the backyard or side yard, particularly when I was just inside the gate which has a security screen over it but still lets one see through. Again, nothing's been said by him. He lives alone but is visited by his adult daughter occasionally and his mother awhile back. Of course I still go nude in my yard. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| The only way to be, FireProf. During mine and my wife's last visit to the Mt. Charleston Inn near Las Vegas for our 38th wedding anniversary I was naked full-time in the room, on the ground floor facing the parking lot so the drapes had to be kept closed. When we went for our massages at the end of the hall I only wore my robe as cover and was nude under the drape during the massage. I only dressed to go to dinner and got naked as soon as we returned to the room. Jim | |
| Military Veterans and Active Duty Person |
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| Wow. Sounds like it worked out great for you, Randy. When I was stationed at Tyndall Air Force Base (Panama City, Florida) in the 70's I recall a group of officers and spouses were caught skinny dipping in the base yacht basin. As far as I know no disciplinary action was ever meted out, perhaps because no regulation against nudism existed then or exists even now. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I plan to wear minimal clothing. Unfortunately, my wife hasn't chosen to live as a nudist yet and very well probably never will so I can't expect her support in the matter. Jim | |
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| Maybe it wulda been a good response, Fire. But, I thought maybe I shouldn't push it. Good thing I wasn't totally nude as I have driven in the past. Jim | |
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| I'm not too sure. In the past she told me she wasn't turned on by seeing me nude all the time. I gues she thought I was trying to push her toward sexual intimacy but since has realized I'm not but simply enjoy being nude when possible. Don't misunderstand me, I do enjoy the intimacy we share too. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| If my wife were okay with it I'd post disclaimers and answr the door nude myself. Perhaps if she ever decides to go nude around the house and outside I'll be able to live totally clothes free at home, including answering the door and hosting visitors. Jim | |
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| TxBiker, I didn't quite understand your comment about family and freinds. Di you say you are or are not nude when visiting them? My wife and will be visiting my mother next month. I WILL sleep nude but don't expect much more oportunity to go sans clothing while there. (Wow, what a looong week it'll be to have to wear clothing so much unless I hear I don't have to). Jim | |
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| Sounds really great FireProf. I hope both you and the Prof will get to really enjoy it. I had a near "mishap' this afternoon on the way home from work when I was pulled over for speeding (62 in a 45 zone) on Sunset Rd (adjacent to the east/west runway at McCarran Int'l for those familiar with Las Vegas or the road itself. I had taken off my t-shirt and so was barechested plus had undone my pants and pushed them down so my groin was just covered. Before I was pulled over I pulled up my pants, fastened the waistband and partially zipped them while sitting at a red light, thinking maybe I wasn't going to be stopped. But, after I pulled into the right lane the lights came on. Bottom line, I only got a warning to slow down along with a comment about not being able to wait until I got home to get undressed. (He said it in a positive tone of voice, perhaps because he could judge what I'd been doing at the traffic light as I pulled up my pants and "squared" myself away). Not sure, maybe my veteran's plate and security uniform had a positive impact. Regardless, I appreciated NOT having to pay a fine. Jim | |
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| Sounds great, Prof. The wife and I will fly (no chance for nudity there) to Panama City, Florida to visit my mother next month so I'll pretty much be confined to wearing clothing, except to sleep, I guess all week. It'll probably be one of the longest weeks of my life unless, somehow, it becomes okay to be nude in her home which I doubt. Boy, it'll be great to get home where I can be naked and free again. But, I have to make the sacrifice to go see her. Jim | |
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| Photon, I will give him credit for giving the order. But, it was the SEALS who carried out the mission. Issuing the order is the easy part, something I'm sure any president would have done. Jim | |
| Nude Massage |
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| Thanks Robert. I'll steer away from the unlicensed massueses. Being nude beneath the drape is not bad so I'll probably have to just continue along those lines for the forseeable future. I only get massages infrequently anyway on special occasions with my wife. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| It's all based upon society's perception the female breast is a sexual organ, it seems to me. Yes, men do tend to get excited at the sight of nude female breasts because we've been told it's taboo for them to be exposed, whereas no one, theoretically, finds a man's bare chest sexually stimulating. What a double standard. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I also found the article interesting and passed it along to a friend whose been trying to screw up the courage to go nude with others. Jim | |
| Nude Massage |
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| I've just been approved to join this group. I've read the many comments regarding draping. I've never had a nude massage (always draped except in the Phillippines when I wore undershorts and nothing else). NOTE: I wasn't a nudist then. However, I am ALWAYS nude under to drape, whether it be a blanket or towel, and would love to be able to go totally nude if the massauese were comfortable with the idea. Jim | |
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| I don't see a lot of shirtless drivers here in Vegas, surprisingly but, I have certainly done some, as well as totally nude. I also keep my shirt or shorts nearby for cover-up (laid over my lao) if I deem it necessary. It's certainly hot enough here in the summer to warrant driving nude. It'd be great to travel across the Mojave totally nude on those long trips. Of course, driving nude anywhere is a real plus. Based upon your comments, it seems the Prof has no issue with being nude while driving as well. It'd be great if my wife had such a positive attitude toward nudism. I'd love to take a nude road trip with her. Jim | |
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| FireProf, Do you cover yourself at all when going through the drive-thrus? Have you ever experienced any unusual reactions (positive or negative) when doing so? I know you drive a high-profile truck which helps hide you from iew whereas my Honda Accord would put me elow the worker's eye level and allow them to look into my car. Otherwise, glad you were able to drive nude. Jim | |
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| I definitely find the omment about our returning veterans to be an insult. Truthfully, we have had, I guess, three identifiable veteran terrorists in this country - Timothy McVeigh and his cohort and Maj. Hassan who killed deploying personnel at Ft. Hood. There have been millions of men and women who have honorably served this nation in peace and war, something which can't be said about those who want to denigrate their status as patriots. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Wow!! Real progress and equality in New York and Texas. Great!! jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Barefreedom, I'd say you hit it outta the park with your assessment. Personally, I don't even own a pair of underpants any longer and can actually not see the need for anyone, man or woman, to wear them. I do, more as a matter of habit I guess, still wear t-shirts under my uniform at work. For one, it hides the jade Bhuddha pendant my wife gave me as a Christmas gift a few years ago so I don't need to remove it or ensure it is behind my back beneath my shirt, since I would no doubt be told to remove it if exposed above the top of my buttoned up shirt. In terms of underwear vs swimwear, I guess society sets the standard, sorta like the line about pornography - it's not easy to define but I know it when I see it, or words to that effect. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Bare, I didn't say it earlier but I agree you ARE still an ABSOLUTE NUDIST as long as you have the spirit and desire to be clothing-free. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Here, here FireProf. What ever happened to people communicating directly with each other to resolve their differences. Cape, I'm also sorry you have to restrict your nudism to indoors. Fortunately for me I've had no such visits so far. I hope I won't. Jim | |
| Nudist News |
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| A great short clip about tis great way of living. It makes a lot of great points about acceptance and non-judgment. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Bare, You flasher!! Just kidding. Seriously, did there seem to be any negative reaction to your delimma? What was your plan if you'd gotten to the end of the drive and turned to go back to the house? Were you trying to cover only the street-side of your exposed anatomy? Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| I concur, BJJB. I've learned alot from FireProf's wise advice and have encouraged others to take heed as well. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree, Gym. I'd also like to read the female perspective on this. It seems ladies, though wearing "revealing" clothing are always trying to adjust their hemlines, etc so as not to reveal too much. Of course, it's not an issue when one is, indeed, purposely nude. And, the mystique is removed as well. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Wow!! I thought I'd missed it again. I did have a donut at lunch today (though neither of were naked at the time). Why don't we just make every day Naked Donut Day? Yeah, we'd all end up too fat but I'm already there anyway. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Gym, I'd say what you have said is true. It just seems there's an attempt on my part to get a peek, as it were, if the woman is clothed. I have very little experience interacting with women in a nude social setting but when I have I find I'm not staring at their nakedness like I would try to peek if they were clothed. One of my best examples, I guess, is a coworker whom I obviously try to sneak peeks at when we're talking since her uniform shirt will tend to gap open below her breasts, exposing a bit of bare skin. My eyes subconscioisly go there and she will try to smooth down the shirt placket to cover up. What really makes it kinda humorous is the fact she knows I'm a nudist and has expressed an interest in trying it herself, though she hasn't yet. I know if she were nude, beyond the initial appraisal of her nude form I'd be more focused on her face than elsewhere while conversing with her. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Th purpose of this ad obviously is to use sexuality to sell products. Isn't it too bad how nudity is always equated as sexuality by Wall Street? Note the article says the models actually wore pasties and skimpy underwear which was the edited out to create the illusion of nudity with the "offensive parts" (breasts and pubic areas) covered with strategically placed bars to hide their "nudity". If the models were shown in everyday nudist/naturist settings without appearing risque who'd take notice and want topurchase the products they were selling, especially clothing? I'm kinda teed off in a sense since Zappos is based here in the Las Vegas area and blatantly displaying nakedness as something sexual to boost sales. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Since I'm a teetotaler and non-vegan perhaps I don't know. But, since wines and other alcoholic beverages are made of fruits and grains do they not qualify as vegan too? I'm a red meat, white meat, or any meat eater, along with vegetables. I have eaten but don't particularly like tofu. Give me meat for protein. Jim | |
| New to Nudism |
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| I agree, the decision to shave or not shave is a personal one. Personally, I don't shave but, to each their own. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Terry, Your dream is my dream too. Shopping, yardwork, trips to the mailbox, everything in the nude without anyone freaking out. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| First, FireProf, I appreciate your guidance to us newbies and don't find your comments to be boastful or gloting at all. I really do appreciate your advice and hope to learn much from it. TXPopi, congratulations on your wife getting comfortable with the idea of social nudity. Your experience, I'd say, is very much what FireProf has been saying. So far I can't even get my wife to go nude on our screened in pation, though no one can actually see in through the sunscreen material unless it's backlit. But, she doesn't understand it and, so, hasn't even taken off her top yet to lay in the hammock. I'm hoping someday she'll at leat get down to her thong or g-string panties while out there. Eventually, I hope she'll dare to go ito the backyard, perhaps topless initially, then panties only, and finally nude. The next step then, will be to suggest e try a social outing or private nudist outing away from home. Just trying to take it a step at a time and be patient and loving. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Steve, I guess based on those definitions I'll have to call mysel a fat ol' nudist (not that 16 is old, mind you - NOTE: My birth year was 1949, I just decided to stop having birthdays. LOL) But, without becoming a tree hugger (is that politicall incorrect?) I see no harm in trying to live a healthier lifestyle and to take care of our resources. However, I'll NEBER become a vegetarian or want to live without modern conveniences full-time. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thanks. I've only cruised once and was seasick the whole time (major headache but not nauseous) so I've been reluctant to repeat. However, the idea of a nude cruise seems VERY appealing. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBunny, I saw the photos - they look great!!I've already commented on them in the "Most Fun Thing This Summer" area but wanted to again acknowledge them here. You make naturism/nudism so appealing. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Is nudity acceptable in the dining room on nude cruises? I'dcertainly love to see everyone enjoy themelves totally nude during a fine dining experience. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Nothing particularly special so far this summer. I've been spending my nudist time at home around the house and backyard as well as a bit of nude driving. But, I may get the opportunity tomorrow to participate in the World Skinny Dipping contest with the Las Vegas Naturists. If so, it'll be my first visit with the club since I'm "single" and the club is set up for couples (haven't been able to convince my coworker to join me yet, even in a CO setting much less mandatory nudity as required by Las Vegas Naturists). If she does join me it will DEFINITELY be my most fun event for the summer so far and perhaps altogether unless she decides to repeat again. Then, every outing with her will be fantastic, I'm sure. Jim P.S. Sunbunny, I just want to applaud you on your latest photos from the nudist burgee shot to all your shots aboard the boat and more. You look so at ease. Why doesn't everyone want to get nude and enjoy the fresh air and sunshine? | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Congratulations to all who celebrated the 4th in the nude, as did I, although alone, after I got home from work. Jim | |
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| Well, no nude driving today. However, after a big thunderstorm yesterday in which I got drenched going to WalMart and Hme Depot, I HAD to strip off my wet clothing and drive home nude. It felt so good to be entirely naked behind the wheel. Fire, the idea of sitting naked in the theater sounds good. Of course, you'd probably be seen by someone and labeled a pevert, despite whatever movie you were watching. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| Sorry to hear you're no longer together, Scotty. Was the separation recent? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Nudesuncpl, I'd say you really have finally gotten it. Congratulations for having a spouse who enjoys nudism with you. I too like to shed my clothes as soon as I get home and remain so as much as possible. In fact I did drive home from work totally nude when I worked the longer hours and arrived home to an empty house. Unfortunately, my wife would hit the ceiling if I were to walk in nude. (She will complain if I unbutton my shirt in the car when er're together). I do, however, still undo and push down my pants to allow things to breathe during the drive home. Then, I can simply pull them up and refasten the waistband once I arrive home. Then, once inside, off come the clothes, unless I have to go out, until the next morning to go to work. I get to spend my weekends nude pretty much 24 hours per day, unless going out. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Captinwillie, Did your wife give you an answer? My wife just says it's not apprpriate for me to be nude in front of my daughter. I think she still thinks it's sexual. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I'll be nude as much as possible. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to go nude at work which would be great. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yes, barefreedom. I guess we've just been conditioned to go along to get along. My wife has chastised me a few times now for unbuttoning my shirt when I'm in the car, arguing the airconditioning is enough to keep me cool. Of course, since becoming a nudist I've pretty much done a 180 in terms of dress. I used to believe it improper to go to the dining tableshirtless. Now, I go with no clothing at all and will only drape my towel over my lap if my wife makes it an issue. So, I guess it is hard for her to accept the change after nearly 40 years of acting "properly" in tems of dress, etc. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Barefreedom, I applaud you for taking it to the edge. I too like to wear as little as possible when I go out among the clothed. I've not, so far, entered a business shirtless but I do wear my shirt partially open and unbutton it as soon as I leave, shorts, and sandals or jogging shoes without socks. In reference to pushing the envelope, this weekend Las Vegas hosted the 3-day RAVE known as the Electric Daisy Carnival at the speedway. The young people attending went to and from the event dressed for the event. The most risque I saw was a young lady walking through the hotel lobby yesterday morning dressed only in a bustier and matching bikini panty. And, honestly, she only received admiring looks if any attention at all. I never saw nor heard any shocked reactions from the guests in the lobby. Many young ladies wore bikinis or bikini tops and tutus with furry boots. Some of the young men dressed in similar fashion. Still, no real looks of shock or disapproval. Yes, this is Las Vegas but there is still a very conservative clientele among all others. In fact, some of our Muslim guests dress in full burqas while others wear only the full-length coverings and headdress without covering their faces. But, everyone seems to be accepted. Also, each Sunday our hotel/casino hosts a LGBT party. And, this year for the first time, they are not segragated from the other guests or their families. So, things do seem to be moving toward a more open and tolerant society, at least within the microcosm of the Las Vegas Strip. Jim | |
| The Internet and Naturism |
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| At this point in my life, retired US Air Force and employed as a Security Officer at at a major Las Vegas Strip resort I don't worry about being "found out' or worry it could have a detrimental effect on my employment. In fact, i've considered proposing to the corporate CEO the concept of a nudist hotel/casino. Surprisingly, though, I never got any feedback when I brought up the idea on-line hereat NudistClubHouse. A coworker, once she learned I didn't mean the staff would be nude (she gets cold too easily she said), expressed an interest in such a concept, saying she'd like to work in such an environment. Of course, she hasn't actually participated in social nudity since many years ago, if then, when she hiked at Red Roc National Conservation Area, according to what she told me. Jim | |
| The Internet and Naturism |
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| First, thanks for allowing me to join. Yes, there are nude photos of me on-line and I have no regrets. I'm still fairly new to nudism but I embrace it fully and want to shae ith any and all who are interested in wholesome nudist living. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I believe a non-nudist is a person who does not participate in nudism in any setting. Of course, I don't mean they never get nude, such as to bathe or other such natural and normal functions. But, they remain clothed except to bathe, change clothing, attend doctor's appointments, etc. And, I believe non-nudists would be mortified to be seen nude or to see others nude in any setting except as described above. After all, even during doctor visits patients are provided with gowns or asked to expose only the area requiring examination, to maintain an "air of respectability" I would guess. As a nudist I have no problem being seen naked by any and everyone as long as they don't react negatively toward my nudity. In other words, I don't think wearing clothing when "appropriate" (as defined by societal norms) or as protection against the elements and usually going about their life in the nude makes them non-nudists. It simply means we sometimes have to surrender to society's whims or the elements by wearing at least minimal covering. Jim | |
| Just for fun |
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| Very interesting. It'd make a great conversation piece as a wall clock or wrist watch. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yes!! Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Thanks FireProf. I looked it up in my atlas after getting information from Andy. Also read your post on today's trip there. Glad you and the Prof were able to enjoy some degree of freedom. It's too bad the clothed ones, with all the rmaining coastline want to crowd you out of what's traditionally been a nudist recreation area. I'm sure many of the young Marines have enjoyed rolicking naked there. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Okay, now I know about where it is, having been past the nuclear planr on I-5 quite a few times going to/from San Diego. Thanks Andy. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| I won't. Just gotta be patient. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| FireProf, Excuse my ignorance but where is San Onofre? I never explored California alot, though stationed at March Air Force Base (Moreno Valley) from 1991 - 1993. Your day going to/from and at the beach sounds like a little bit of heaven. TXPopi, hope you'll get to join the group soon. I really enjoy reading about the nude driving experiences and love my time nude behind the wheel. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| Glad to hear the great news, Popi. Let's hope she'll learn to love being nude and will never turn back. Best wishes, Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Summer has finally arrived here in Las Vegas with highs hitting nearly 110 last week. It'll still get hotter before we begin to return to more moderate temps but it's what I love about the high desert - no really cold winters like others experience for some period of the year. I was able o begin getting comfortably nude in about March and, no doubt, will probably continue into October or November, perhaps. We did have an unusually long Spring this year but it was ideal for getting into the outdoors without clothing. Jim It has been a great opportunity to go nude every chance I get. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Isn't it too bad the United States is still so hung-up on public nudity? I've enjoyed reading about the freedom many have experienced in places like Germany where nudists aren't considered odd in public parks. Jim | |
| Nudist Teachers |
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| Yep, FireProf. You nailed it. I in no way have tried to hide it but still have to careful about announcing the name outright to avoid legal issues. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Hmmmm! Gymnostim your argument CO may be more a path to universal acceptance of nudism is a good one. I would love to live in an environment where nudism would be accepted whether others choose to participate or not. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Wow, barefreedom. I love the fact nudity is considered no big deal among the German people. Like you, I wish America would adopt such a casual attitude toward nudism where we could just go about enjoying life in our own way. It would make going to parks, etc. so much more relaxing. Jim | |
| Nudist Teachers |
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| First, thanks for approving me for this group. I was an instructor in the U.S. Air Force, serving two different tours at the Security Police Academy in San Antonio, Texas. I taught Air Base Ground Defense/Antiterrorism tactics and then trained military working dog handlers. Most recently, I was tapped to teach report writing to my fellow Security Officers and will soon become a heartsaver instructor at a major Las Vegas resort. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Calmnude, the non-nude tour with a refund and requirement to leave afterward seems reasonable. While it doesn't eliminate the voyuers during the tour it does ensure they can't just "hang out" to feed their perversion either. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| So far, I like Herman Cain. Michelle Bachman is noteworthy as well. But, I need to really pay more attention to all before election time. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| There does definitely seem to be a double-standard for progressives (i.e., Democrats). While Republicans adhere to normal moral standards the Left celebrates an anything goes, let it all hang out attitude where they MUST be forced to take responsibility for their actions. Did you notice how, initially aty least, there was no cry from the party leadership for him to step down? Meantime, unless my memory fails me every Republican caught in a scandal was immediately castigated by the Dems. What a mess!! Now, if only the people in Weiner's district would do the right thing and elect an upstanding and moral person we'd probably get another Republiucan in the Houe of Representatives. But, what are the chances it will happen? I won't hold my breath. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| As I said before, I'm encouraged by the fact no one has really experienced a negative reaction to answering the door nude or announcing they are nudists, I too think it's responsible to cover up to some degree before opening the door to strangers. But, I still like to keep the coverage to a minimum (quick on/quick off). If the person(s) at the door is a nudist or friend who realizes you're a nudist and has no problem with it then I say go for it. I do believe non-nudist males would certainly flock to a nudist's door if they believe they will have the chance to see a nude female though probably not so much if a nude male routinely answers the door. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| The fact your wife suggested one of the nudist locations for your vacation does sound encouraging gymnostim. Hope you have a great trip and your wife will become more comfortable with nudism too. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Jime, You're exactly right. There is very little privacy here in Las Vegas and, therefore, little oppoortunity to go nude in one's own yard. A lady who works in a different section of the resort I work for lamented to me the loss of freedom she and her boyfriend used to enjoy 30 years ago. They would lie out in the desert for hours with sightseeing aircraft flying over, which they waved to. Now, she can't even lie nude by the pool in her development due to the presence of so many non-nudist neighbors and screaming children. However, as I've written before both on this site and elsewhere, I have attended three separate social nudist events at a private residence near my home where the occupants have built up cabanas, etc. around their backyard which block the view from the outside, even to the two-story homes on either side. And, there are at least two other private residences where nudist couples are welcome. Unfortunately, as yet I don't have a nudist partner to attend those events with. However, I'm not giving up hope. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Brian, I tend to agree with SunBunny on this one. I personally don't recall seeing any of the names listed by her. However, if the go back 2- 3 years without posting comments, joining groups, and not filling out their profile information why aren't they terminated or at least informed they face termination if they have nothing to contribute. I agree such things do detract from wholesome nudism and the goals of this and other likeminded sites. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Aircraft headed to the Grand Canyon and elsewhere have flown over/near my yard many times. I've never felt uncomfortable nor seen any negative reaction. The aircraft also include the occassional Metro Police helicopter as well as military craft. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I just came in from working on my all-over tan in the backyard, as I do most evenings. Last week, I raked the backyard, including the 5-foot raised bed at the back. I could have been seen by neighbors on either side or even from the street when at either end of the yard but don't think I was. Nevertheless, unless my wife stars to harangue me I will be nude in the backyard any time I'm out there. The exception would be if we had visitors since i also haven't worked up the courage yet to ask my neighbors how they feel about nudity. Jim | |
| nude driving |
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| Rhinestonekevin, You're right. The drive would be long and boring but doing it naked, especially with the wife joining in, at least at night, must've made it much more bearable. John, the Sunday morning routine sounds geat too. Unfortunately, I have to drive to work Sunday mornings and it'd be too much hassle to put on the uniform in the car upon arrival at work. But, I've done the reverse drive home after work both partially and totally nude and enjoyed every inch of it, the drive, that is. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| A great suggestion which will perhaps encourage more female participation among nudist couples. Of course, my wife doesn't share my enthusiasm for nakedness and, therefore, is not part of this or any other sites I belong to related to nudism. But, hopefully, others with spouses who do enjoy nudism and communicating with other likeminded people will follow your suggestion, Andy. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I have actually posted my real name a couple of times. Here it is: James (Jim) Clifford Shedd. So, again, I have no fear of being "found out" since I have nothing to hide. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| After re-reading the question, my answer is NO, I have no fear of embarrassment being seen nude by anyone. And, I hope they'd feel comfortable in joining me in the nude. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| ABSOLUTE NUDIST? I'd define an absolute nudist as one who is nude as much as possible, full time if possible. I'd say abolute nudists do/would actively advocate nudity as a way of life, including living in and helping to establish nudist communities and other nudist environments, always pushing for the right to live their lives clothes-free, even in hopes of gaining acceptance to do so among the general population. So, I guess I am NOT an absolute nudist, though I desire to be. I still have some growing to do in terms of promoting nudism to friends, neighbors, family, and even strangers. I personally have no fear of the impact being found out might have on my social or professional life. I am comfortable with anyone knowing I am a proud nudist and want to live as freely as I can. Of course, I must still dress to go to work, run errands, and to meet/greet visitors. Hopefully some day I will have the courage NOT to dress for visitors but I'll have to fight the battle with my wife first. I would very much like to dress as little as possible and allow whatever I'm wearing (currently I wrap in a towel or nothing at all with my wife (a robe in the winter) and allow it to fall open or off in front of visitors and, if no negative reaction remain so and encourage them to join me if they wish. Then, on their future visits i'd not bother to dress at all. So, while still not an absolute naturist, I want to move in that direction. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| My photos are posted here and on True Nudists. I personally have no fear of anyone seeing them. Anthony Weiner, on the other hand, is in a position of responsiblity where he is subject to blackmail or worse by being outted. At least, he was before he admitted he had in fact, posted the photos himself and sent the explicit messages. His initial denials are evidence of the negativity his actions could have produced. Personally, I think his political career is over. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SB, I meant once the child reached the age at which he/she could choose, with reason as pointed out by another contributor. Until they reach the age at which they can reason for themselves then no, they do NOT have a choice in whether to live as nudists or textiles. But, young children do seem to gravitate toward nudity, would you not agree? By example, watch a young child freed from their cloting while being "changed" or before/after bathtime. They pretty much don't see a need for clothing and will freely and gleefully run about nude until corraled and forced back into clothing by an older sibling, parent, or guardian. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Great arguments on both sides. Last night, in bed, I rememberd a story I read long before I became a nudist about a lady (Who as I recall was 80 years old) who lived in a nudist resort. Her comment was something to the effect though she was too old to go nude she loved seeing all the nude young people around her, giving her a sense of youthfulness all over again. Like BJJB, I too wish society at large was comfortable with nudity, whether everyone chose to be nude or not. I've experienced the clothing-optional environment and everyone, in every state of dress or totally nude, appeared comfortable. In fact, the first time I went I overheard a first-time, non-nudist, visitor say though she wasn't sure whether she wanted to participate in shedding her clothes she had no problem with others being nude in her presence. I have requested to attend a nude-required setting but it's couples-only, unless sponsored by a couple. As yet, I don't have anyone to attend with. I would have no problem being nude (I've done so three times so far) but the one person who's expressed interest has not even attended the clothig optional event yet, citing lack of a tan, temperature, etc. I certainly support nude-only venues as long as clothing-optional locations exist as well. And, I, no doubt, would feel uncomfortable visiting a venue where I'd be the only one nude - kinda goes against my initial statement, I know, about desiring a society accepting of public nudism as the norm. But, I'm sure I'd not be the only one nude in such a setting. Yes, I've had the desire to go shopping, pump gas, go for a stroll, etc. sans clothing but realize I can't ithout facing shock and, worse, arrest for lewdness by virtue of being nude in public. Sorry if I've strayed a bit. To get back on track, I say let's allow nudist-required as well as clothing optional resorts and let everyone choose which they want to attend. Jim | |
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| I agree, everyone is responsible for their own choices, unless incapable of making informed choices, such as young children,the mentally challenged, ot the physically infirm. Jim | |
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| The only reason to join a nudist club and stay clothed all the time, it seems, would be for perverse desires. Jim | |
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| Hmmm. Initially I would have said a natural choice since small children seem to love to run about nude. But, in light of a child raised by nudists who didn't choose the lifestyle, perhaps not. However, it was obviously her choice. I do agree no one should be forced to go nudist or textiled, only told when it's appropriate for each. And, I'm not referring to only when bathing and such for nudism. Jim | |
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| I call that progress, TXPopi. Maybe I can persuade my wife to start moving in that direction and hopefully, to full nudity someday. Jim | |
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| Best of luck, Jamie. Give your girlfriend every bit of encouragement you can to become a fulltime nudist. Jim | |
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| Glad to hear it, calmnude. I'm not surprised by the higher number of males vs females. It's just good to know it's equally enforced. Jim | |
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| Great story Jmaxn. You noted a single male was tossed out for excessive staring. Do you believe the same would have happened had he been accompanied by a female? Or, would a female be discharged for excessive staring? It would only be fair in either instance, I believe. Jim | |
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| Great for you, labrat. I guess the idea of choice can really appeal to the ladies. I was nude very quickly when I went to my first clothing optional event. However, others, men and women, chose to stay clothed throughout. No one seemed bothered by either instance. It's one of the best things about being among non-judgmental people. Jim | |
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| Great idea, Gordon. It's exactly the way Las Vegas casinos operate. An entire city operating full-time nude would be ideal. Jim | |
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| Daycare is a great idea!!. BareontheCape, it'd be great if you could put such a plan into action. It seems my idea of a nudist resort/casino didn't win any votes but I'm still thinking, wondering who I'd have to talk to to promote such an idea. By the way, the resort/casino could also incorporate childcare, like some of the so-called "local" (read off-Strip, community complexes) do. In fact, you can bowl, go to the movies, dine, everything you'd do anywhere else plus gamble in those places. They're quite poular, actually. Jim | |
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| Good one, Andy. I especially like the Doughnudes moniker. Jim | |
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| Probably as close as you were allowed, John. I say good for you. But, SunBunny and the Captain are still the winners, IMHO. Jim | |
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| BareontheCape, I think you're exactly right. Any misbehavior should be dealt with in accordance with policies and established laws. I work in a major hotel/casino on the Las Vegas Strip. The idea is for the guests to feel welcome and to enjoy their experience. Of course, there are rules in place which must be complied with by all. Violators are evicted, trespassed and/or subject to arrest by law enforcement for violations. Otherwise, they're free to enjoy themselves as long as their behavior doesn't impede someone else's enjoyment. Unfortunately, there are no nude resorts in Las Vegas and not even toplessness is allowed at the property where I work. However, the rule on toplessness in the pool area is enforced, basically, only if there are complaints. Toplessness is NOT allowed within the casino, hotel, or other public areas, unfortunately. Honestly, I think it would be a great environment if a fully clothing optional or nudist hotel/resort could be opened either on The Strip or elsewhere in Las Vegas, open to anyone wanting to vacation in the nude in a safe, family-oriented environment. However, as currently written, liquor and gaming (gambling) laws prohibit such a resort anywhere in the state. Jim | |
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| He DID actually place the wreath this year. I saw it on the news. However, I'm not sure he felt comfortable in the presence of all those heroes, both fallen and living. Jim | |
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| Any reason to celebrate naked is a great day. Thanks SunBunny, for the idea, though I had no donut(and I love donuts)at all today. Still I was naked before I went to work and am again now i'm home. And, I'll remain so until tomorrow when I have to go to work again. Jim | |
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| I also don't live in a nudist community. I must don clothing to run errands, go into the front yard, greet visitors , delivery persons, etc. But, I do live nude as much as possible within my home and backyard. BBigBare said it right. I would like to see everyone accepted, nudist and non-nudist without causing offense or raising eyebrows. Jim | |
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| Andy, I didn't interpret nudecojohn's statement about strolling to the mailbox in the nude as "in your face" nudism. To me it was just an expressed wish for acceptance of our way of life. However, on your other points I agree. Political coorectness and a sense of entitlement have certainly produced a society which doesn't feel the need to earn anything. Thus, mediocrity has taken over. The sense of achievement for having actually done something, striving for a goal, has been lost in great measure. People far too often think I want it and, therefore, I should have it. I can understand the discontinuation of pageants due to their evolution into popularity contests. I have seen this kind oif thing over and over again myself where winners are chosen due to their popularity and not their accomplishments. Jim | |
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| Sounds great. I've stripped in the Wal-Mart parking lot a few times, also the Post Office parking lot, etc. Driving bare is such a great feeling. I hope someday I can encourage my wife to join me in nudism then in driving naked too. Slowing down to make the drive last longer is a great idea too. Jim | |
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| I like the idea of ladies shopping in sarongs. But, the idea of a "Nudity Peferred District" is even better. Gotta win over the textiles so we don't have to worry about coering up for modesty's sake. jim | |
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| Great idea, FireProf. How far was the drive? My furthest drive, so far, was probably 50 miles across town after a memorial service on Friday evening, May 20. Got undressed in the parking lot then drove home. Jim | |
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| As usual, FireProf, you make a great point. I guess I was trying to be too inclusive. But, nudists should never let textiles take over where nudity has been established. I too would much rather live among people who prefer nudity. There's already planty of space out ther for those who want to remain clothed. But, clothing can sometimes serve a practical purpose as you've written about your wife before who will cover her shoulders when chilled, or to prevent sunburn. Even in winter, I will wear the minimum possible when at home, such as a Snuggie just to keep off the chill. Still, I will be nude underneath to maintain as much freedom as possible. Now, with the warm weather I am nude almost every minute I'm home and will definitely get naked as quickly as possible in a nude social setting, if the occasion arises. Jim | |
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| Great point BJJB. Why should nudists insist on focing everyone to conform to nudism? It's too much like the textile side trying to force their decision to wear clothes upon those who wnt to be free (without clothes). Jim | |
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| I like it BJJB. Jim | |
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| Just viewed the You tube video, SB. Thanks for the information. Honestly, the first time I've ever seen this game. Jim | |
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| Wow!! I understand the clubs are run as businesses and fees are needed to keep up facilities, etc. However, many people simply can't afford such fees. I was able to join the Las Vegas Bares non-landed club for $25.00 per year ($40.00/couple, but my wife is not into it). The AANR fee would raise too many questions from her. So far, I've only been able to attend two events on consecutive nights for a total of $20.00. (This was not a Las Vegas Bares event,though I was lead to believe it was before attending the first night) and was the reason I took my club dues the first night and left it with the host for pick up by the club member who told me about the event, via email. Unfortunately, all the Bares events, so far, have occurred on weekends while I work and out of town. I'm off during the week and can't attend weekend outings, hikes, trips out of town (De Anza Springs and Glen Eden, so far). So, I have to look for local evening events here in Las Vegas, when my wife's at work. Not complaining, it's just a fact of life being a newbie to nudism with a non-nudist wife, and a work schedule which limits my participation in social events. Sorry if I've rambled on or gone off-topic here. Jim | |
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| FireProf, You've done it again. Congratulations. Hope you'll convert many more. Jim | |
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| I like both Gordon2Bare and Earthygal. I finally have a couple to add (not my own) but I think quite appropriate: Debbi (fulltimenudist.wordpress.com): "We are nudists not stupid." in reference to how she and her husband deal with winters in Rock Haven, TN. I got this one from the front of a cap worn by a gentleman on truenudists: GET NAKED GET A LIFE. Jim | |
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| Since my last post on this topic, I've had the opportunity to go socialluy nude on consecutive Saturday/Sunday nights one weekend. Being with other nudists was a great experience and I hope to have the opportunity to join in more nude social events. The difficulty I've had so far is the time due to my work schedule and at another location because only couples are welcome. As yet, my co-worker "partner" hasn't joined me at a nudist event, waiting to get her base tan first. Hopefully we'll soon be able to participate togeter in nudist events. So, for me, anywhere I can enjoy nudism among other likeminded individuals would be great. Jim | |
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| I have to agree but, be honest, Bare, it actually looks weird. I found elsewhere I had to edit my spelling on a coupla other posts I'd already sent out elsewhere. Jim | |
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| Towels don't require ironing. And, you can get by without folding them if you really wanna save time. Just for info, today is my "Monday". And, except to go out to run errands or go to dinner and eye exam I spent my entire "weekend" nude from the time I got home Monday afternoon. And, I won't get dressed for approximately another hour. Being nude made it really easy to clean the aquariums. The great thing is my wife never suggested I get dressed, at all, except to go out. Jim | |
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| Though I don't own a boat, I think the idea of a nudist boat flag is a great idea. I could flyit beneath my other symbol of freedom, the American flag, at home. Jim | |
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| Not good for tourism though, TexasnNewd. Isn't it something the way the media hypes a "disaster' but never follows up enough on the positive changes. Sounds great there. We're back in the 60s today here in Las Vegas with wind and even some rain. We should be in about the mid 80s or higher. Don't worry, it'll happen soon enough. But, it does cut down on the nude sunbathing, dang it. Jim | |
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| This is Lux. Actually, it was just a slip of the finger - and failure to check my spelling before hitting the "Post Message" button. Who'd think a one-finger typist (actually) I still possess all ten) could screw up so often. But, thanks for the ligh-hearted ribbing anyway. Oops almost sent as "Pst Message" button. Just can't do anything with my hands after washing them. Okay, another bad attempt at humor. Jim | |
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| Working in the yard last year, digging it up, I began to shed my shorts until I eventually decided to not even put them on anymore. I came inside one day, showered and just decided not to get dressed afterward. Have not been the same since. I love this way of life. Jim | |
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| Good job, SunBunny. You are my jeroine. You live and breathe, plus speak out about this lifestyle. More of us need to do the same. Jim | |
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| I really like reading stories about nudists who don't freak out becaue they've been "caught" nude by others. I think it proves the point there is really nothing wrong with the way we live, guilt free. Hopefully it will help others to accept and enjoy our way of life. Jim | |
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| A great message, Hoya. Perhaps, if my wife would consent, I should post such a sign at the entrances to our home. Of course, at least now my wife wil not allow such a proposition since she is NOT a nudist and still resistant to me being naked in view of others. Jim | |
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| Hoya, I hope you didn't overreact and try to hide your nudity. I hope, instead, you simply waved to the gawkers and continued with your tan. No, I've not actually been nude in public yet. However, I've walked to/from the maibox down the street in my open robe. Not sure whether I've been seen by the neighbors. If so, no negative comments so far. I visite one evening next door in only my robe. And, i've driven both nude and near nude in my 1997 Honda Accord here in Las Vegas. Jim | |
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| FireProf, I tend to agree, though I've been reluctant to announce my nudism to far more than I've told, including friends, coworkers, and neighbors. So far, one coworker has expressed an interest though she has not actually joined me yet. The friends I've tod have either said nothing or simply took it in stride as my choice. Jim | |
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| Most fun activity(s)? Except for something which might produce injuries, I believe everything would be more fun in the nude, even work. Jim | |
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| I read over 20 years ago, I believe, of a nudist apartment complex in Austin, Texas. I wasn't a nudist then (unfortunately) and never pusued anything about it. Wonder if it still exists. Not to get off subject but, what is pentangue? (Hope I'm spelling it correctly). I've yet to go beyond two social nudist gatherings at the same private residence here in Las Vegas. So, I'm still pretty ignorant about what's available out there. Jim | |
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| Bigbare, I agree with you about accepting everyone. It'd sure make it great if I could just roam about my current textile neighborhood without clothing and not raise any eyebrows or blood pressures. It would be like paradise, or close to it anyway. Without some unforseen event, this is our retirement home where we hope to live out our lives. So, to be free to walk about fully nude would be great. Jim | |
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| You got me on that one, Bare. I should've checked first. It's actually a Accord DX. Yes, it is a good car. It gets me where I need to go. We traded a 1993 Accord in on the wife's 2007 Lexus when we purchased it used in early 2008. And, no sweat on the funnin' BillyJoe. Jim | |
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| Party Naked/Annie's Tiki Bar - Not a true club but a private residence backyard. It IS definitely singles-friendly. Clothing optional as well. Adheres to AANR rules. Las Vegas Naturists - couples only - AANR affiliated. Nudity required. Las Vegas Bares non-landed. Singles-friendly -AANR All located in Las VEgas, Nevada Jim | |
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| Pretty much whatever I drink clothed, all non-alcoholic though. And, I'm not really a coffee drinker since I gave up the daily cup at breakfast in my tweens or early teens, I can't remember. Iced tea is great. I too don't drink enough water. I guess it makes me boringtoo, Nilo. Jim | |
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| Actually, there's usually some breeze blowing, though it can feel like a hair dryer and in direct sunlight the sun feels blistering. But, you learn to avoid the heat of the day when possible. Jim | |
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| Gymnostim, I can vouch for the sweaty clothing issue, having grown up in Florida (primarily Panama City). Anothe reason for loving te dry air here in Las Vegas. Jim | |
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| Well said, Fire. And, you're right about the author seeming to assume only 18 - 30 year olds are busy. But, it's his age group (early 30s) so, i guess it's hard to relate to the fact we oldsters are busy too. Your daughter certainly made some great points. I've always argued you've gotta spend money to make money. Here in Las Vegas the places which attract the young big spenders are the ones which pour money into keeping the properties fresh. The old Fremont Street area (downtown) struggles to keep operating because very little money is spent on upgrades to brighten up the places. THe Strip and its neighbors is a "happening" place because an effort is made to give the young people what they want - action (fun and excitement). The same, I believe must and should be applied to nudist resorts if they hope to attract the younger set. Otherwise, they'll find their own venues to celebrate their nudist way of life, whether free beaches, parks, or private residences where they can enjoy their own music and other young people. Jim | |
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| You're a lucky man, Fire. Wish my wife would do the same. She does like to change but into more "comfy" clothes, unfortunately. Comfort for me is getting totally naked asquickly as possible, then staying that way until I HAVE to get dressed again. Jim | |
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| I've just reviewed the i-naked info article myself. I think the message is right on target - make time for nudism in every part of one's life, no matter what you're doing. I know an indiviual, for example, who spends some part of his workweek nude in his office when possible, though he actually works in a building inhabited by others. I don't have the luxury but do try to spend as much time nude as possible - watching tv, sunbathing, gardening, household chores, eating meals, etc. I've never been to a resort though I did have the opportunity to participate in nude social events twice at a private residence and am seeking more oppoortunities here in Las Vegas if I can gain admittance, such as Friday movie nights with LV Naturists and activities with the Las Vegas Bares, of which I'm a member. Bu, if there's no social event to participate in I just go about my routine (including driving) sans clothing when possible. So, I guess I can say, based upon the article, nudism is a way of life versus lifestyle for me. I'd certainly find working out in a gym or anything else more fun and interesting if I could do it in the nude. Jim | |
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| I am nude every possible minute, including while driving if feasible. For instance I just ran an errand and once ready to come home took off my shorts in the car and drove home with my shirt open. Yesterday morning I ran to the ATM. I went with only my flip flops and towel which I draped over me only as needed to avoid folks alongside me in higher vehicles (I drive a 1997 Honda Corolla) from seeing my nudity to not freak anyone out. Now, I'm home I'll stay nude until I have to dress for work in the morning (about 11 1/2 hours from now). At home I wear as little as possible - just a towel wrapped around my waist most of the time, as required. Jim | |
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| Well said, Smokey. I am slowly trying to introduce nudity to others within my little circle of friends, neighbors, coworkers. I've had some success. I'm still really new to the nudist way of life but I love being naked every possible moment. Maybe I'm not the best advocate since I haven't vconvinced my wife yet nudity is normal. Jim | |
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| I would say, based upon what I've read, resorts do seem like very boring places for retirees. I have nothing more than what I read to go on since I've not visited a resort. But, it seems thy'd be a lot more interesting if they were more lively - how about events like flag football, races, etc. to generate greater interest for a "younger" crowd? I'm 61 years old and have never participated in shuffleboard or pinnochle in my life. It just seems nudist resorts need to offer activities likew those you'd find in non-nudist resorts to make them profitable and thriving businesses. Jim | |
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| I concur also, gymnostim. I like the term nudity-preferred over clothing optional. The idea of required nudity sounds great. After all, as pointed out, it's the goal so if you want to live there or visit, you do so naked. It would mean persons like me at present couldn't reside there since I have a textiled wife but, I still support the full nudust concept. Textiles have the majority control elsewhere so, the idea of a self contained nudist community where the site of a person wearing clothing would be a very rare sight and would be idyllic. Jim | |
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| Well said Chuck. I wish my community would adopt the nudist mindset. I love to be naked as much as possible, such as now while I'm typing this. Unfortunately, I'll have to slip on shorts and shirt to make a trip to Home Depot and fill the car with gas. It would be so great if I could just go there totally nude without anyone feeling offended. I know it's a fantasy but why can't we at least daydream? And to answer your question, SunBunny, I say nudist. Jim | |
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| My first public nude experience occurred about a month ago when I went to a party at a private residence. Within a couple of minutes of being there and seeing a couple of nude men come in to get some food from the buffet I decided to go for it and was so glad I did. What a great experience. I went back the following evening to see whether the party which started at noon was still going. I wore only my robe and once invited in I shed the robe immediately and joined the small crowd still there. I can't wait to go back for more. It's so hard to get there before the festivities end due to my schedule and waiting for my wife to leave for work. Jim | |
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| Well said, Porsche. I was going to refer to the adage about change but you beat me to it. The mindset about "wee own it, they're just visitors" will, I believe, kill resorts over time. There are just far too many options available to younger people who want to have fun, clothed or nude. So far I've not been to a nudist resort, only one private venue which had a variety of age ranges among the twenty or so people on the first evening. But, all seemed to enjoy themselves in the intimate (small) setting. The organizer explained to me he'd tried to pattern the amenities at this private residence after what he'd found at various resorts. Is there, perhaps in part, a fear on the part of the older generation(s)nude young people writhing about as they dance to their music will lead to sexual excitement? Isn't it the same argument used about fully clothed youth through the ages? I'm still young enough, yet old enough too, to remember when 50s rock-n-roll, then the Beatles were considered to be the work of satan because the young people were "writhing" and swiveling their hips. What about the flappers in the 20s? The older adults always seem to be appalled by new trends. I believe there must be better acceptance of and for all to keep the resorts alive. Nudism, I'm sure, will survive but maybe not the resorts without change. Sorry for rambling on. Let me just wish all the moms out there a Happy Mother's Day. Jim | |
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| Isn't it typical that people will resist change? The older crowd wants "peace and quiet" while younger people want "noise" and action. One thing most (young and old) can agree upon is the sound of happy young children at play, though crying and such can be annoying. The laughter of children at play can serve to keep everyone young. It seems, based upon what I've read only since I've not yet been to a resort, space tends to be somewhat limited so it's hard to separate the "fuddy duddys" as SunBunny calls them from the younger, more active crowd. So, there probably needs to be a compromise, along the lines suggested by FireProf. Let the ol' retirees enjoy the atmosphere of solitude weekdays while the younger people go about their professional ives and turn over the clubs and club houses to the "youngsters" on weekends. Or, everyone try to find a common ground where they can all enjoy the freedom and enjoyment of living clothes free with like minded friends. I guess, bottom line, it's a matter of respect for all. If you pay your fees you should be able to enjoy your experience as long as you don't intrude upon another's rights to enjoy their's. Jim | |
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| Honestly, FireProf, I believe Ted was truly shocked by my announcement. Prior, he called while I was nude sunbathing and the discussion came up about my swimsuit. I told him I wasn't wearing one and how I hated tan lines. He kinda lauged but let it go. It was my impetus for sharing with him I'd become a nudist last year, how I go full-time commando, hate wearing clothes, and had attended nudist social events. Perhaps it really was too much information all at once for a 70-year old to absorb. But, it's out there now and as I told him before, I'm not ashamed. Others have not really reacted one way or the other usually. One co-worker expressed interest and continues to do so but hasn't made the leap yet. Someday, hopefully, she will. The first friend I ever told stated only it didn't seem "very conservative", referring to my political leanings. Jim | |
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| I told a friend, via email, last night I'm a nudist. His response was too much information. Then today he called me to say he meant too much information to put on the internet but, I believe the initial response last night was his true feelings since he also asked, "Should I tell my friends?" I replied okay because I'm not ashamed ofwho or what I am. I explained I like being clothes-free, period. Yeah, it maybe didn't go quite as I'd hoped but overnight he decided it's okay if it's the way I want to live. No loss of friendship anyway. Jim | |
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| It seems, and has been stated before, ity is much harder for women to accept and participate in nudism. Whether due to insecurities, body image issues, or whatever, it just seems really tough for women to accept and want to participate in nudism. I feel your pain, Craig. I can't even get my wife to accept my nudity 100% of the time and have compromised by covering myself when in her presence (towel only) and don't even suggest she try it outside the normal routinre of bathing or for sexual intimacy. So, all we can do is be patient and hope they will at some point decide to try it and learn what it's really all about. Jim | |
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| Smkey, You're absolutely right. I'm a member of the Las Vegas Bares and gladly accepted as a "single" member, though I am married. I even made it known a female coworker might join me and was told it would be okay (so far, she has not and does not want to associate her membership with mine even though it would allow us a savings on individual membership). Still, no problem as far as the club is concerned. I attended two social events at a private residence and was readily accepted by all there, though I was unaccompanied. MiLinda, let me say I'm also a fan. Jim | |
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| Great message FireProf. Yes, judge the individual by his/her/their actions. Do NOT condemn an entire class of people (i.e., single males, unaccompanied males, or whatever the class may be) based upon the actions of individuals within the class. Jim | |
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| Two weekends ago I participated in my first nudist social event, at a private residence. I participated in water volleyball and simply socialized with other nudists and non-nudists. It was a great experience I cannot wait to repeat again. Unfortunately my work schedule interferes with the events which begin at noon Sunday. I can't attend until about 5 PM and missed the opportunity last night due to the late hour I arrived. I'll be looking for other opportunities where I can find them. Jim | |
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| A great day for America. I'm so proud of our men and women on the ground who get the job done, including the civilians who, no doubt, helped coordinate and carry out this mission. Jim | |
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| Still in Las Vegas. I'm now a Las Vegas Bare, as of last week. I attended my first nudist social events two weekends ago, both Saturday and Sunday evenings. I'm seriously contemplating going again this evening. Jim Well, I arrived to late for the festivities which started at noon. I arrived just after 5:00 PM and all was over with - darned work schedule. | |
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| John, I hope you'll heal quickly and without detrimental effects. Best wishes for your recovery. Jim | |
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| I've recently become a member of Las Vegas Bares, having received my membership card earlier this week. I'm located in the southeast part of the Las Vegas Valley, south of McCarran International Airport. Two weeks ago I attended my first social nudist events on Saturday and Sunday evenings at a private residence just off Eastern Avenue. I'm hoping to go back soon for more nude recreation, probably this coming Sunday. My wife is still not interested in nudism and gives me a hard time about even sunbathing nude in our backyard. Also, our daughter has shown no further interest in nudism, as far as I know, since she hasn't contacted us in awhile after losing her job as a bartender. So, for now, I'm a single nudist though I do have a coworker who has expressed an interest in perhaps trying social nudity. She likes to sunbathe and swim nude at home when her kids aren't there but hasn't taken the step to participate in social nudity so far. Another lady at work is a longtime nudist who told me she and her boyfriend used to love lying naked in the desert for hours. Now, she is unable to sunbathe nude at the pool in her residential area due to the crowds and children there. She was very encouraged by the prospect of nude recreation or relaxation at the location I attended. However, since I didn't make it last week I don't know whether she attended or not. I've also opened up more, via email, about the fact I'm a nudist to friends. So far, I've received no feedback for or against my life choice. I'm hoping to someday win my wife over and then to get her to join me in living as a nudist both at home and in social settings. Jim | |
| Nudist Individuals |
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| Hi, I'm Jim. I'm a new nudist - got into nudism last summer/fall in my own backyard and home. I have a non-nudist wife who, at best, tolerates my choice to live clothes-free and still hassles me from time to time about my lack of clothing in front of her or in the backyard. I attended my first nudist social events last weekend at a private residence here in Las Vegas. I felt immediately comfortable and doffed my clothes within five minutes of arrival on Saturday evening and even sooner on Sunday, after seeing the handful of people who remained from the pool party which began at noon where still nude or partially nude. I intend to continue my participation in such events when I can. I played water volleyball for the first time on Saturday evening and having experienced my first time nude among other likeminded individuals and my first time nude in a poool, I never want to wear a swimsuit again. The feeling of the water on my bare skin was great, along with air drying without a wet, clammy suit once out of the water. I'm here because I very much enjoy and cherish my nudism and the opportunity to be nude with other likeminded individuals. I don't know whether my wife will ever become comfortable enough to try nudism herself or to acept my nudity in the presence of others. By the way, I am 61 years old, soon to be 62 in just over a month. I only regret I did not grow up as a nudist and raise my son and daughter as nudists. I attempted to introduce our 36 year old daughter to nudism this past winter but, she does not seem to feel comfortable being nude in my presence (possibly due to her concerns about how her mother might react. NOTE: My daughter and I spent two evenings nude together and other times when she was partially nude in my presence. I have been fully nude in her presence several times. All incidents were without my wife's knowledge. I would also like to see more acceptance of unaccompanied men and women who simply desire to share the nudist experience with others, though they may not have a significant other or a reluctant partner to share the experiences with. I have read posts from FireProf in the past where he commented on clubs which discriminated against his married but unacompanied daughter's rejection from clubs because her non-nudist spouse did not attend with her. She, after all, was in the presence of her parents and her husband had agreed to sign any waiver stating he was okay with his wife going "alone" to clubs. Such policies are clearly discriminatory against uaccompanied individuals, and particularly toward unaccompanied males. If the policy is intended to maintain a sexual (gender?) balance then isn't it in itself setting up an atmosphere to promote hooking up? Perhaps if non nudists know of such policies it helps promote the idea of a swinger lifestyle in their minds, as opposed to wholesome fun among persons who simply enjoy being among other likeminded individuals. My recent attendance at the nudist events I mentioned above showed me clearly nudism is NOT about sexual orgies but, indeed, just people sharing a common experience and joy of being clothesfree among friends. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with the comments and praise for your hard work, Andy. I also agree the naturists/nudists just seem so much happier and at ease than their clothed counterparts. Living naked is so wonderful. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Absolutely better to be nude, Andy!! Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I've shared my love of nudism with a coworker whose shown interest, saying she thinks it'd be fun, and a second person, a long time nudist, looking for a place to again enjoy nudism among like-minded individuals. I attended my first nude social events last weekend and am sharing the message with anyone who will listen. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Wow, my first post after visiting my first clothing optional social event. I loved it, even though I didn't interact with others too much. I'm just not much of a conversationalist with strangers. Still, being nude among mixed company,(men, women, clothed and unclothed) was great. So, now let me just say I'd certainly like to have such a weekend where I could continue my growth as a nudist and, hopefully, like FireProf said, help my wife, daughter, and now coworker learn what nudism is really all about so they would feel free to participate. Again, I agree with FireProf, especially where body image and nudity = sex mindset is so prevalent among the non-nudist sector of society. Hope I didn't stray too far off target in the beginning SunBunny. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| SunBunny, I was simply relating my limited experiences. I love the nudist lifetyle and was hoping to get my daughter into it so she could share the pleasures I've come to enjoy in the short time I've been practicing nudism. But, as I said, my wife is totally against even the thought of me being nude in my daughter's presence, since she never knew we'd been nude together. As far as the coworker, I saw her reading her Bible at work one day and referred her to some of the Christian nudist sites. It was then I learned from her she enjoys nude sunbathing and skinnydipping in her pool. And, she expressed an interest in visiting a nudist resort. I'm certainly no expert in this area and am hoping to learn from everyone else's posts. Again, I apologize if I seemed to be trying to represent myself as something I'm not. Hopefully, I will find a way to join the nudist social scene in the future and truly understand what you and others have experienced firsthand. I'm not sure whether I've helped your understanding but its the only way I know to explain myself. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I understand just where you're comng from, Nakedboy. I'm also concerned about my neighbors' reactions if i apear fully nude outside my house or bakyard. However, within my own backyard I figure what I do is my own business since they'd have to make the effort to lok into my yard over the cinderblock walls between our yards. There are two two-story houses which can look into my backyard at different angles and i've certainly been inthe line of sight of both while nude, though I don't know if they've seen me. However, I don't consider it a big deal if they do since i'm not trying to create a scene of any sort. I just want to enjoy my backyard witout clothing. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Sorry SunBunny. I guess I should pause for awhile or at least wait until I actually get beyond my walls to share my experiences. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Nakedboy, I also agree it must be great to have somewhere where you can be naked so much. What part of Alabama are you in? I pretty much grew up in Panama City, Florida but now live in Las Vegas, Nevada. Do you live in a subdivision or a more rural area? I live on a dead-end street with a turnaround at the end and only 11 houses on the street and a single street lamp about midway down the street. Still, it's too public, with neighbors living abutted next to each other, to walk nude up and down the street. The best I can do is walk to and from the mailbox, take out the trash, or stand in the front of the house with my robe open as long as no one is outside. So far, I have no evidence of anyone seeing me - at least no complaints. One night about halfway to the mailbox just after dark a neighbor surprised me by flipping on his headlights just ahead of me, across my path of travel. Another night, my next door neighbor suddenly appeared from the dark and said something about a "senile old man". If either actually realized I was nude beneath my open robe, they said nothing to me. Actually, I wish they had so I could have opened the subject of nudism with full knowledge they were aware and okay with it. Being able to walk about freely in the nude would be great. Jim | |
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| I'm with you, Andy. I wish for a worldwide nudist revolution. I'm trying to muster the courage to start such a revolution within my own neighborhood, slowly, by announcing my conversion to nudism to my neighbors when the occasion presents itself. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Nude sunbathing is fantastic. Earlier this week, for the first time this year, I sunbathed nude and was moved by the feel of the sun and breeze upon my entire nude body. What a feeling!! I have, so far, sunbathed about three evenings thisa week and am looking forward to more as the weather continues to warm up here in Las Vegas. I have gardened a bit in the nude. Last summer and fall, I slowly shed my clothes by working out of my shorts a bit at a time while digging up my backyard to prepare it for re-landscaping. The feeling was fantastic once I finally shed the shorts full-time. I even kicked off my shoes t every opportunity to feel totally free. I only wish my wife would accept my life choice and stop worrying about the neighbors discovering me nude in the backyard. Another great feeling is to drive nude, which I've done a few times. Since the car's enclosed I guess nude driving doesn't really qualify as outdoor nudity but, it's great to feel totally free. I'd love to do everything in the nude - fishing, boating, swimming, gardening, hiking, jogging, etc. without concerns others might be offended. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| TexasnNewd, I feel for you. But, you're right, due to the "inappropriateness" of nudism, as seen by many in government (I wonder how many secetly harbor wishes of being openly nude in public, social settings), it is necessary to safeguard one's practices at times. I, fortunately, don't believe I have anything to fear in my job as a casino/resort Security Officer here in Las Vegas. However, I'm still having a hard time revealing my choice to live as a nudist to family, friends, coworkers, and neighbors, though I want to do so in hopes of some of them joining the lifestyle themselves or at least tolerating those of us who do enjoy living as nudists. I was for far too many years a non-nudist, since I just adopted nudism last year at age 61. Therefore, I guess, there's still anxiety about being rejected by those around me. But, I'll keep pushing the envelope bit by bit in hopes of revealing to others I am a nudist and hoping to find others who want to join me. It has worked in at least one instance where I told a coworker who admitted she likes to sunbathe and swim nude at home and desires to visit a nudist resort. But, even she will not go naked in front of her children who are in their 'tween or teen years. Jim | |
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| I would certainly be nude in the presence of others, if the occasion arose. I'm not sure if it counts, since it only occurred at home but I've been nude with and in front of my 36-year old daughter, without her mother's knowledge. My wife is certainly NOT a nudist and has addressed the issue of how it would be inappropriate to be nude in front of our daughter. Yes, our daughter and I spent two evenings together nude and I've been nude when she was partially or fully nude while getting ready for work or modeling her new "uniforms" we'd just purchased before she started work at the Bikini Bar here in Las Vegas (unfortunately, the job lasted only one night for her). I have a coworker whom I learned enjoys nudism as well. I'd love to spend social nudist time with her. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Well said, Gordon. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| I like all but, my favorite, I'd say, is cabbage. Jim | |
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| A good one, Andy. What a real mess. As the old saying goes, I think we're in deep kimchee (hope no one is offended by the terminology). I love kimchee, though I'm married to a Vietnamese native. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| Both ideas sound good. Jim | |
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| Have a great drive, FireProf. Will your wife be nude during the trip as well? | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| If only, Andy. Yep, such a letter is definitely a BIG april Fool's joke. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree with you, Wayne. Conduct screenings, if necessary. In the past, it was said they would be too expensive. But, what about linking to a sitew which identifies sexual predators or something similar, as a tool to screen prospective visitors or members, with their full knowledge you will do so before admitting them onto the club grounds or into one's home, club, etc. Why discriminate simply because a person is of a certain gender? Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I agree, appropriate locations should mean anywhere which is acceptable to the public in general, whether clothed or nude. Persons who don't want to see nude bodies can simply choose to steer away from wherever they are present. The idea nudity is somehow wrong is so ingrained in most of society, particularly in the United States and far more restricted nations where any exposure of a woman's skin is grounds for a serious beating, it is and will be hard to gain widespread acceptance of nudity as normal. Too bad everywhere is not as open to the unoffensive nature of nudity as what I've read about in Germany where parks are shared by nudists and non-nudists alike without creating hysteria. Curently, I must restrict my nudism to my walled backyard and home since my wife does not support my nudity, even to the point of telling me to stay inside when she goes to work, though in the past I have accompanied her out to the car, in the garage, and watched her drive away, all with my robe tied securely around me. Granted, once, she departed, I untied my robe and let it fall open before turning back to go inside the house, ithout her knowledge. And, to date, there have been no cries from hysterical neighbors. It is not my desire to be offensive but to simply enjoy being free of clothing as much as possible. We have a long, long way to go to gain acceptance, often even with our own spouses. Jim | |
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| As I've said many times before, at the chance of sounding like a broken record, I'm a newbie nudist, so I'm not sure whether longtime nudists have become complacent or not. However, I too like to try to push the envelope, even though in the past I've been suspected of exhibitionism and cautioned by others who think I may be trying to push too far, too fast. NOTE: I've never yet been called an exhibitionist by my textile neighbors who may or may not have seen me dressed in my open robe walking to/from the mailbox, taking out the trash, or standing with my daughter as she smoked her cigarettes in the front yard. All comments, rather, have come from those on this and other sites who proclaim themselves to be nudists. Jim | |
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| I think it is discriminatory to allow nude unmarried woment but not nude unmarried males, as some clubs practice. No, I've not personaaly experienced any of the things discussed before since I've not yet visited a nudist club. My wife is not ready for me to do so, since she still is not happy with my nudity at home, particularly outside the house or in the presence of others. I hope someday all will change so she and I can share nudism together, at home and in social settings. Jim | |
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| I also signed it. Only my first and middle names appeared with the last initial. Like FireProf, I also wanted to sign with my full name. Upon contacting AANR, it was fixed to include my full name. Should anyone want to verify it, you'll find James Clifford Shedd, Las Vegas, Nevada, which I verified. I signed it to show I am a nudist and proudly declare such. I do hope it will serve to alert legislators to the fact we are serious about our rights to live as we wish. Jim | |
| Home Nudists |
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| I haven't been to a beach since becoming a nudist. But, I say yes it's "ok to be kinde of nude" considering many women's suits are very tiny to begin with, especially thongs. The bobber idea is a great one. I can't wait until I get to try out these ideas for myself. Better yet will be to get to a nude or C/O beach where nudity will not be an issue at all. The closest I ever came to nearly nude sunbathing was while stationed in the Phillippines when I'd go out into the backyard (open on all sides) and roll down my underwear as far as possible without exposing my anus or penis while sunbathing. It never was an issue. Howeve, sunbathing totally nude is the greatest, so far. Jim | |
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| Just wanna say thanks for allowing me to join this group. I learned just this morning I'd been accepted but didn't have time before leaving for work (clothed, unfortunately) to say thanks. But, this evening after running errands, I undressed in the Wal-Mart parking lot, as I've done a few times before, and drove home naked. As always, the feeling was great. I've told a coworker who shares an interest in nudism about my nude drives. She stated she'd be too afraid of being caught to do so. However, I hope someday she'll give it a try and report back to me on what it was like. Jim | |
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| Thanks again, barefreedom. Again, I'll definitely look into the site you provided in the other post regarding state laws. Is the reference you cite here from Nevada law? Jim | |
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| Thanks barefreedom. I'll definitely check it out. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| Another great message, Billyjoe. Thanks. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| The fact your friends may fear homosexual tendencies seems so true. I believe it's a normal reaction among red-blooded American males who have not been socialized in a nudist environment, FireProf. Again, I just wish everyone could accept nudity as normally as they do clothed people, even scantily clad women or men on a beach or at a pool. There, most don't take offense at he tiniest suits, though some would be offended at the slightest hint of anything other than very modest clothing. Jim | |
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| Still an at-home nudist. But, I definitely like to go outside naked as much as I can. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't share my enthusiasm and has recently really chastised and threatened me because I was outside working in the back yard in the nude. She said she even hoped I'd get arrested (I'm not sure what the law is about nudism in the privacy of one's own back yard here in Clark County - outside the city limits of Las Vegas- Nevada). I looked but could not find anything on the subject of nudity in the Clark County statutes. I really have no idea where else to look after going to the county government website and trying to search the subject of nudity. Any suggestions leading to a successful search would be greatly appreciated. Jim | |
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| Billyjoe, I think you make an excellent point. Like FireProf's wife, others may have reasons other than modesty for wanting to cover up sometimes. I'd be very happy for my wife to join me in a C/O environment, and eventually adaopt nudism on her own terms, just to see nudism does not necessarily lead to sexual activity among nudists. Jim | |
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| Good to hear you're not pestered by Security at those dry sites, FireProf. It'd be great if we could just go nude anywhere, anytime without negative reactions. Jim | |
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| Well said, Indynudist. Seems I've run up against the same thing. My wife just last week really went off about my nudism, after having been quiet for awhile. It occurred after she found me outside gardening in the nude. Jim | |
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| I've decided if my mother eer comes to live with us, she'll just have to accept my nakedness. My wife, of course, disagrees to a large degree with my nakedness. I think trying to get her to accept my nudity as normal is, perhaps, a lost cause. Jim | |
| New to Nudism |
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| Because it just feels so good to be totally free in the open air and sunshine. Of course, indoors nude is nice too. Jim | |
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| You raise a great question SunBunny. I think the term "like minded" is probably overused. But, i the nudist setting I think it probably refers to peoples' desire to live as nudists an d the love of freedom associated with nudity without judgment. Jim | |
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| So far, I've only been nude at home, not extending beyond my backyard, though I did visit my neighbors one evening wearing only my robe and have been to/from the mailbox and front yard in my open robe (carefully watching for neighbors) and driving in my car. But, I'd love to visit anywhere in the nude. Barefeedom, I believe the problem here in the U.S. stems from our puritanical background upon the Pilgrims' arrival at Plymouth Rock and beyond. I certainly wish there were a way to overcome all the negative stereotypes associated with pure social nudism. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Yes, barefreedom, choosing to live as a nudist is itself a healthy lifestyle choice. Though I haven't acted on it, I have considered getting back into an exercise routine just to look better without clothing. Of course, it would be better healthwise as well. And, even would improve my appearance when I must wear clothing (ugh). Jim | |
| just plain nudists |
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| I have proudly labeled myself a nudist to the few people I've told about my life choice. So, no, being labeled a nudist doesn't bother me at all. Jim | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I definitely agree with pushing the envelope. I don't purposely exhibit my nakedness but, if accidentally seen by others, I hope it will result in positive comments and discussions about nudism. Jim | |
| Conservative Naturists |
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| Andy, you're being too harsh. After all, while the Middle East and Libya were on fire, he was forced to play golf two weekends in a row, too. So what he's in Rio? Remember, before the election he said he could multitask - picking the basketball brackets after having just given a speech on Women's History, or some such thing, the weekend proves the point. After all, he also played golf the same weekend he talked about equality for women. Phew!! What a tough schedule. Jim | |
| When your spouse is not a nudist |
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| Thanks FireProf. Yes, I do need to initiate an honest discussion with my wife, if it's possible without her getting hysterical. Jim | |
| Just for fun |
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| When mentioned to strip down to my underwar or remove my underwear, I haven't said anything. I simply drop my pants. If a gown is providsed, I put it on. Jim | |
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