| Missouri Nudists |
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| I agree that Missouri needs more opportunities for nude recreation. Frankly, the behavior of some doesn't help matters. For example, there used to be a nude beach on Smithville Lake, but we had to stop using it a couple of years ago because (a) there were a number of classified ads looking to meet people there for sex, and (b) a naturist was arrested as an unintended consequence of these ads. As for resorts, many young people simply cannot afford the cost of admission, so there needs to be either a better effort on the part of non-landed clubs or finding new beaches we can safely use nude. | |
| Naturism and wholesome nudity in films |
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| www.actnaturallymovie.com | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Not naturist-related, but certainly spirituality-related: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/15/make-your-own-religion_n_964570.html The Unitarian Universalist Church offers a class called "Building Your Own Theology," which is essentially creating your own religion. I took this class back in 2003, when I was still in the nudist closet. Even though I didn't publicly include naturism in my personal theology, I did include it privately. What's interesting about this class is that you can build your theology on every religion and/or philosophy known to man - Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Paganism, and so on. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| What you're asking is impossible to answer logically. Spirituality is a matter of faith and perspective. You can ask all you want for evidence, but you'll never be able to find it. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Good question: what is the definition of "spirituality"? I don't think there's a good definition, but all of these - feeling, experience, knowledge - are good examples. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| There is definitely an element of racism in the Teabagger movement. Think about it: we only started using the terms "Teabagger" and "Tea Party" shortly after the first African-American President was sworn in. Also, keep in mind that it was Fox News, the perpetual cheerleaders of the Bush Presidency, who promoted the hell out of the Tea Party in April 2009. Given that, you cannot tell me that they do straight news. And to further suggest that Obama is somehow a "socialist" suggests that the people in the Teabagger movement really haven't been paying attention to Obama's record so far. If anything, Obama has governed as a centrist, much to the chagrin of many progressives who voted for him in '08. He goes - and continues to go - out of his way to get deals done with an assembled group of children (Congressional Republicans) whose stated goal is to "make Obama a one-term President." It's this desire to compromise that gave us a health care reform bill that lacks a public option, yet the right deride as "socialism," despite the fact that there's absolutely nothing socialist about it. | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Problem with TNS.com: it goes to Triware Networld Systems, an IT consulting firm. You'll want naturistsociety.com instead. NOTE from SB: mea culpa, you are correct, I was just thinking out loud when I wrote that. The point is the same. | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| Jennifer Aniston or anyone else doing a film involving naturism. | |
| Absolute Naturists |
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| I like naked over nude because it's easy and sounds more fun. | |
| Anime Lovin' Nudists |
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| Shin-chan - the title character is a kindergarten boy who is often in some state of undress, usually doing his "ass dance." There is one episode where he tells a friend that he's seriously considering becoming a nudist while changing out of some wet clothes. While not necessarily naturist per se, the character of Shin-chan does seem to have a natural attitude toward his body. | |
| Mo-Kan Nudists |
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| If you're a first-timer at the Heartland swims, you'll need to contact the club's officers directly. Go to http://cirrus.kcsky.net/swim.html for contact info. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Let's put it this way: if Congress (and, by extension, the President) didn't get a DADT repeal passed, the courts would have. Either way, it was time for DADT to go. | |
| Midwest Nudists |
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| I'm in the KC area as well - North OP for now, but plan on moving across the State Line within the year. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Let's not forget George W. Bush's favorite oxymoron: "Compassionate conservative." As clearly evidenced by the right's desire to destroy health care reform, destroy unemployment benefits, destroy Medicare and Social Security, and extend Bush's irresponsible (not to mention deficit contributing) tax cuts for the wealthy, Republicans and conservatives do not care about you if you are not insanely wealthy. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I'm sorry, but you've been grossly misinformed. FACT: Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda had absolutely nothing to do with each other. If anything, Osama bin Laden HATED Saddam because Saddam was a relative secularist. The Al-Qaeda presence in Iraq didn't even appear until after we illegally entered Iraq and removed Saddam from power. FACT: There were no WMD's in Iraq. All of the WMD were removed from Iraq after the first Gulf War in the early nineties. GW Bush and company made it up and were frankly too stupid to plant "evidence" of WMD. FACT: We would have never wasted time in Iraq had the media done their job and not allow the radical right (through their Fox "News" and talk radio) con the country into supporting Bush's plans for Iraq. FACT: Bill Maher put the current political climate accurately when he said that the US doesn't have a left and a right. Rather, we have a centrist party and a "crazy" party. As a result, the political "center" in the US is already skewed way too far to the right, and that's a problem. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Thanks for the perspective from California. I remember Jerry Brown ran for President in 1992 (I couldn't vote then since I was 14), and I thought he'd do a good job. Of course, the man who beat him in the primary - William Jefferson Clinton - did an outstanding job in two terms, so no complaints from me. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| As you all know, Tuesday was a very bad day for anyone who bleeds blue. America was swept by a Teabag-induced storm of red, kicking out of office progressive champions like Grayson and Feingold and bringing in unapologetic anti-human pro-corporation types like Rand Paul. I am especially disgusted by what happened as my (soon to be former) home state of Kansas elected a Christ Nazi as Governor, denied my retiring Congressman's wife a chance to succeed him, and kicked out all but one Democratic incumbent from our county's State House contingency (we had 6). And on the county level, a former mayor who is clearly pro-sprawl (thus anti-environment and anti-community building) was elected county exec. So, Tuesday was a night of heavy drinking for me. Please share with us your stories. How did you feel when the anti-human, pro-corporation, racist and unfortunately named Teabaggers spread their message of inhumanity throughout America like a cancer? How did it affect politics on the local level? | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Today is Election Day here in the States, and it's an important one. So please, if you haven't already, take a couple of minutes today and vote. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| It's also very clear that many of these conservatives - and the Teabaggers even more so - have little or no knowledge of the Constitution they claim to "defend." Their biggest misunderstanding, I've observed, is with the First Amendment. We have one Teabagger in Delaware stating that separation of church and state is not in the Constitution, but it is - in the First Amendment. It states clearly that Americans have a freedom of religion - and a freedom FROM religion. The right just doesn't get it. We have another Teabagger in Alaska arresting a journalist who was trying to do his job. Freedom of the press, like religion, is guaranteed by that same First Amendment. Teabaggers: a clear and present danger to America. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| That's the problem here: lack of intelligent debate. Conservatives don't use facts in their arguments. They rely almost entirely on the talking points they get from their corporate masters via the right-wing media. Since conservatives today rely almost entirely on the right-wing media (esp. Fox News) for their information, they get nothing but the talking points and completely ignore the real news (which they mistakenly think is entirely leftist, even though it's not). Let's be honest with what's going on right now: our economy continues to suffer because of how badly GW Bush messed it up with his irresponsible tax cuts for the wealthy coupled with two wars: one that was ill-planned (Afghanistan) and one that should never have been fought (Iraq). And while Obama can into office with very good ideas, they ultimately suffer because (a) Obama is more of a centrist than most progressives would like, and (b) more importantly, he's been the victim of Republican obstructionism (with the aid of a handful of conservative "Democrats" who, frankly, need to stop calling themselves Democrats). If the Teabaggers get their way, things will only get worse. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I have a copy of that book as well. Not exactly what I'd call light reading, but quite informative. | |
| Midwest Nudists |
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| I'm also in OP. I attend Heartland swims and sometimes go to Camp Gaea near Leavenworth. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I'm thoroughly disgusted by what's going on in Arizona. Do I have to carry my birth certificate with me at all times should I ever visit Arizona? Come on! It's racist and xenophobic and aimed specifically at Latinos, which make up a significant and growing portion of the US population. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I read your post. Very informative. | |
| Mo-Kan Nudists |
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| From what I've heard, the unfortunate soul is going to stand trial. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I saw that video. Beautiful: The Republican Health Care Plan 1. Don't Get Sick 2. If You Do Get Sick 3. Die Quickly Sounds about right to me. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I agree that ideally Congress should have proposed a single-payer system. However, I understand the reasoning behind the insurance exchange with the public insurance option - it's a middle-ground proposal. The reason that Congress would never go for a single-payer system is the same reason that the public option is in danger now: the right is crying "socialized medicine." The sad truth is that nearly every Republican and a handful of key Democrats (Baucus and Conrad) are wholly owned by the insurance companies and, thus, resist changing the system. | |
| Sports Talk |
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| Philadelphia over New England. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Instead of honest and healthy debate over health care reform, the right has resorted to being disruptive and sometimes violent. Check out this video: Look, I'm strongly for a public health care option. It would do a couple of things: it would force the private insurance companies to drop their premiums as they'll now be forced to compete, and it will help insure those who don't have health coverage and otherwise can't get it. If the right wants to have an honest debate on the issue, fine. But no more of this obstructionism. | |
| Mo-Kan Nudists |
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| This is for those familiar with Heartland Cove on Smithville Lake. Sadly, there has been some recent swinger activity at the Cove, which resulted in at least one naturist being cited for indecent exposure. It's been recommended by Heartland Naturists to avoid the Cove at this time. I also saw on the Heartland public message board a question regarding starting a naturist club in northwest Missouri to compensate for the loss of the Cove. Anyone have any thoughts on this? | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Feel free to post your story. I'm sure everyone would be interested in reading it. | |
| Naturism and Science Fiction |
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| Being exactly 30, I'd be joining you as a Runner. :) | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I got home this evening from work and came across this: Rush Limbaugh calls nudists nuts and Looney Tunes What I'm getting from Comedian here is that liberals/progressives are bad, naturists are also bad, and liberal naturists are THE nutjobs. What is this man's major malfunction? | |
| Mo-Kan Nudists |
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| I know that there are nudist nightclubs outside of the US, especially London. While it sounds like a great idea, you may want to check to see if the idea's feasible before you get started. | |
| Mo-Kan Nudists |
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| Thanks for getting this started. I'm in north OP. I've been a member of Heartland for three years now. | |
| Naturism and Science Fiction |
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| Here's a great (and classic) web page on the subject of nudity in science fiction: http://www.naturistplace.com/nudesf.htm | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| We first heard about this on Tax Day - and again last week. It seems that the governor of Texas won't shut up about the idea of his state seceding from the US because he disagrees with whether or not Texans should pay their fair share of federal taxes. Keith Olbermann, on Friday night, detailed point by point what Texas secession would mean to the "newly independent Republic of Texas" - skyrocketing taxes, NASA and other federal agencies leaving, the potential loss of multiple pro sports teams (Astros or Rangers - pick one), building a border fence with Oklahoma, and possible absorption into Mexico. As someone with family in Texas (my mother's originally from Beaumont, and most of her family now lives in Houston), I think that secession is a really bad - and, honestly, laughable - idea. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I was surprised to hear this, but not entirely. The Republican Party is growing increasingly right-wing, and Specter didn't like it. Now, if only we can get the Minnesota situation over with and get Al Franken into the Senate. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| The right-wing smear merchants need to get their terms right. Muslim does not automatically equal Arab. Similarly, these terms do not automatically equal Terrorist. Communist may be in the same vein as Socialist, but neither have anything to do with Fascist. And neither necessarily equal Radical. In fact, the right-wingers who are doing the smearing are closer to being fascists than is Obama. Everyone knows - and needs to remember - that Obama is (1) of East African and Caucasian descent, (2) Christian, (3) actually quite moderate-to-progressive in his policies, and (4) from Hawaii by birth - which was a state at the time of his birth. Actually, the "not native born" argument could have much more easily been tagged on McCain, who was born in PANAMA. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| The last couple of days, I've heard about right-wingers having these so-called Tea Parties on or about April 15. Apparently they missed the entire point of that original tea party - they were protesting taxation WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Also, many of these people will actually be paying LESS in taxes under Obama than they did under Bush. Thoughts? | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Hey everybody. I thought I'd tell you that the spiritual naturist Meetup group I started back in October just had our first nude session last night. It was a nude meditation session that lasted about 30 minutes. Not too bad. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Thanks for clarifying, Bellaluna. The concept of moksha is something I don't have as good a grasp on as I'd like to have. You may want to ask your friends about this concept and tell us what their understanding is. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| It gets worse: in Digambara women also can't break the cycle of reincarnation (moksha). Contrast that with Svetambara, the non-naked sect of Jainism. It's sad, and I agree - maybe the Digambara haven't completely separated nudity and sex. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Thanks for sharing. I've heard of Jainism and the naked Digambara (what the sect is called) monks. Sadly, they don't allow their nuns to go naked. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| This keeps getting more interesting. Apparently there are at least 5 Republican governors - including "Michael" Palin in Alaska - saying that they won't take stimulus money. One of them happens to be from a state that's in dire need of such money - Louisiana. On the other hand, it's nice to see at least one Republican governor - Governor Schwarzenegger of California - saying that his state will take any stim money that the Alaskas and Louisianas don't want. Also, Governor Crist of Florida has said good things about it. So, by my count, that's five Republicans in favor of the stim: Governor Schwarzenegger and Crist, and Senators Collins, Snowe and Specter. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Now that it's passed, I'd like to hear what everyone's take is on the economic stimulus bill. Personally, I think it's a good start in turning the economy around - but more needs to be done, and the Obama administration knows it. Also, shame on the Republicans who voted against this bill - which would be all but three Senators. | |
| Just for fun |
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| Perhaps something with the word "Skinship," like Club Skinship. | |
| Midwest Nudists |
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| Welcome. I'm also in the KC area. For more on naturism in the KC area, check out the Heartland Naturists: http://www.cirrus.kcsky.net/sunrun/hnc | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I'm reading about that as I write this. He's been released from the hospital, so that's good. There is a possibility that this is related to an incident in early December, when he injured his back after running into a teammate. Still, keep those prayers coming. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| You'll also notice that the Right Wing Noise Machine has started attacking Obama with a viciousness that they haven't shown since Clinton was in the White House. For eight years, they've been kissing Bush's butt with every mistake that he made. Now that a Democrat is in charge to fix what the Republican messed up, they have released the hounds. Typical. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| From what I'm hearing the last couple of days, I'm encouraged about what the Obama administration has - and will - do to get this country turned around. Thoughts? | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Steve, no need to apologize. I noticed that MySpace behaves in a similar fashion regarding content from deleted profiles. Anyway, I think it's a worthwhile topic and I'm glad you thought of it. Thanks also for the cartoon. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Happy New(d) Year everyone! Just 20 more days until we FINALLY tell Bush and Cheney to "go f&*% yourselves." Just 20 more days until Obama and Biden get sworn in and start to undo the damage of the past eight years. Here's hoping for good things in 2009. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| My opinion on this is that we would have never invented clothing, so "nakedness" (as defined by Genesis 3:7) would not exist but we would never have been made aware of it. We would still be naked, but it would be a natural, everyday thing that we would never really notice. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| If you haven't voted early, today is THE day. Go out to the polls and VOTE! | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Congratulations on your ex's "finding the light." I've known a few people who switched parties, especially politicians who have done so (and won). That said, I share your ex's sentiment that a McCain-Palin White House is enough for me to leave the States for Canada. One last reminder to VOTE TOMORROW!!! | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Well, Philadelphia should be safe for Obama, and I think McCain (through Palin) just managed to lose all of Western PA: | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| 34 out of 50 - cool. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I'm curious. Which states have early - or advance - voting? I know Kansas does - we use both the absentee paper ballot and advance polling locations. I voted on Tuesday (straight Dem ticket, including Obama-Biden). If your state has advance voting - VOTE NOW! If not, VOTE November 4. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Here's another video, this one is Cleese himself absolutely PWNING Fixed Noise, Sarah Palin (who's now funnier than Michael Palin), and all things right-wing. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Any thoughts on the last Presidential debate? I didn't see it, but heard about "Joe the Plumber" and so on. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Great to hear that you've got your early voting in already. We start early voting here in Kansas next week and I intend to vote early (straight Democratic ticket, of course). | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| This is from last night's Countdown with Keith Olbermann. Keith is reading a poem written by John Cleese (from Monty Python, of course) in (dis)honor of Sean Hannity. Enjoy! | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| As I'm writing this, I've got the second Presidential debate on the television. Obama's doing a pretty good job, while McCain seems to me to be resorting to his talking points. Thoughts? | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Did anyone else watch tonight's VP Debate? I did. It wasn't the total destruction of Sarah Palin that I had hoped for, but it was still a very good debate - and Joe Biden definitely won in my view. I actually couldn't help but laugh everytime Palin regurgitated one of her right-wing talking points or used the word "maverick" to describe her or especially McCain. Biden backed up his points by citing, among other things, Senatorial voting records. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I didn't get a chance to watch all of the debate, but from what I saw Obama did a great job while McCain made himself look very, very bad. If anyone watched that debate and actually thought that McCain should be President, they need to stay home on Election Day. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the VICE-Presidential debate, because Biden will destroy Palin. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Well, I'm relieved that he started nailing McSame on the economy. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| With the polls showing a dead-even presidential race and about 50 days to go, I'm worried that Obama may be in danger of losing the election. I think there are a number of reasons for this: (1) McCain has fully embraced the character assassination tactics of Karl Rove, (2) McCain has poached white women voters with his selection of Michael (sorry, Sarah) Palin as his VP, and (3) the Obama campaign has been forced to not talk about the issues, especially the economy. Does anyone else feel this way? If so, why? | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| You should have seen Olbermann this evening. He destroyed the myth around Palin. I agree that her views are very similar to Bush and Cheney. Like Cheney, can we expect her to survive multiple heart attacks, shoot someone in the face, and tell a Democratic Senator to "go f^&* yourself"? | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I've got to make this one quick: McCain picked as his running mate Alaska Governor (and former beauty queen) Sarah Palin, who has as much VP cred as MICHAEL Palin from Monty Python (who, being British, can't be VP). | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| For those of you who missed the text message, it's Joe Biden. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Thanks for sharing. Wish we had politicians like that here in the States. For future reference, to link to the article, you'll need to use HTML. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Count me in. I consider Taoism an important part of my personal spiritual philosophy (hence the screen name nakedtao). | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I was just watching Olbermann this evening, and he mentioned that Joe Biden is the frontrunner for VP. The shortlist includes Indiana Senator Evan Bayh and the aforementioned Governors Kaine and Sebelius. I guess we'll find out for sure later this week. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Well, the expelled individual came in and started promoting the idea of "Primal Males" - and referring to all the group's male members as "Primal Males" - and then just disappeared. As a result of his leaving the group, his comments were automatically deleted but the topics remained. (For the record, when he tried to rejoin the group recently, I simply denied his request to do so.) On my part, I was made very uncomfortable by the fact that I had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. Also, it seems to me to be an exclusionary - and sexist - philosophy. Lastly, from what's been described to me, "Primal Males" doesn't even sound like a spiritual philosophy; it sounds more like some sort of male bonding thing. The biggest problem with trying to run a group that promotes openness to spirituality is that on the very rare occasion does a philosophy pop up that will cause controversy. This, sadly, is one of those occasions. I welcome further discussion on the topic. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I recently started attending a (textiled) spiritual group, which is a great experience. I found out about them via Meetup.com. Maybe that's the way to go about forming a spiritual naturist group in your communities - set one up on Meetup under "spirituality" and "naturism." Of course, the first meeting would have to be textile to help those who aren't naturists become more comfortable before you start nude activities. Now that I think about it, I might do this for my local area. (Update: I did so on October 13.) | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I know that the group's description states that we don't exclude anyone. Well, this evening was the first - and I hope only - exception. I won't have any of this "Primal Male" stuff further infecting this group. This group is about spirituality and naturism, and from what it sounds like this whole "Primal Male" thing defeats the entire purpose of the group. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I know that this topic will have absolutely nothing to do with naturism, but I've got to discuss it anyway. There are many reasons to not vote for McCain in November, and this one is just insane: he wants to kick Russia out of the G-8 and risk re-starting Cold War hostilities. If you're unfamiliar with the G-8, it's an informal alliance of the world's economic powers. The US and Russia are members, along with Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, and the UK. First off, hasn't the Bush administration taught us that aggressive foreign policies don't work without diplomacy? Secondly, to my understanding, the G-8 rules preclude the unilateral expulsion of any of its members - all members would have to come to an unanimous decision to do so (translation: even Russia would have to vote itself out). Lastly, there's also the issue of a certain space station that's under construction and has been orbiting our planet for the past 10 years. Of the ten modules that presently constitute the International Space Station, 3 are Russian with another couple of modules scheduled to join them. Oh, and Russian Soyuz vehicles are used in crew rotations. Yet another reason why McCain cannot become the 44th President of the United States. | |
| Sports Talk |
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| The Packers have a much better shot of winning the NFC North than the Jets do the AFC East. Look at the divisions! Green Bay, even with Aaron Rodgers, is superior to Chicago, Minnesota, and especially Detroit. Contrast that with the AFC East, which has only one good team - New England. The next best team in the division is Buffalo, and they're a .500 team at best. All the trade insured was that Favre couldn't come back and haunt the Packers twice a year. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Webb is on record saying that he's not interested in being Obama's VP. He further said that, at this time, he's more useful to this country serving Virginia in the Senate. As for naturist friendly running mates on the tickets, all I know is that we can forget that happening ever on the Republican ticket. The GOP has been very gung-ho about putting a stop to naturism in this country. Just ask our favorite former Congressman - and pedophile - Mark Foley. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Any thoughts on who Obama will choose as his VP? Personally, I'd like it to be Kathleen Sebelius, Kansas' governor. That may help push a few red states to the blue column, and help with Hillary supporters - especially women supporters. However, I've also heard Tim Kaine, Virginia's governor (another guy with Kansas-area ties - he grew up in the KC area and attended Rockhurst High School), as a more likely possibility. He'd also be a good choice. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Thanks for sharing. Very interesting. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| As for the notion that politics is considered too time-consuming to those who would rather play games, you're absolutely right. Politics itself is like a game - one that directly or indirectly affects the ways that you and I live day-to-day. And political campaigns are especially time-and-money-consuming - and I should know, having myself run for my city council (and lost by almost 800 votes). I do wish more people would pay attention to politics and get involved. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Fair enough. One of our Canadian group members keenly pointed out how the group is called "Progressive Nudists" and not "Liberal Nudists." I think this has to do with the fact that the term "liberal" has been demonized in the US since at least the Reagan years, so liberals are forced to use the term "progressive" to describe their politics. I feel that nudists are socially more liberal than the mainstream, so Libertarians are more than welcome in the mix (libertarianism is best described as being socially liberal and economically conservative). | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Cool. I think we all learned something about Canadian politics today. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Isn't there also a Quebec separationist movement in Canada? | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| It really is, and you can blame Reagan for demonizing the word "liberal" here in the States. | |
| Nudists in the Performing Arts |
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| http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3jsd5_opera-nu_people - opera http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3r55s_naked-on-stage-lilia-mestre-untitle_creation - dance | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I just heard shortly after coming home from work today that Bush lifted the offshore drilling ban. Worse, he blamed Congressional Democrats for the high gas prices we've seen for a while. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. In one fell swoop, you've made matters worse for the environment, not truly addressed future energy needs for the US, and pandered to your supporters in Big Oil. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Fair enough. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Thanks for that explanation. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I read in the news today that Iraq's government wants American troops out of their country by the end of the year. I say great, except that Dumbya will try to keep our soldiers there forever - as would McCain (if the unthinkable happens and he gets elected). Thoughts on this? | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Even though I started this group with a focus on American politics (and how it affects nudism in the US), I'm pleased to see that many of our group members hail from all over the world. I think it's actually quite cool to hear the opinions of progressives from outside the US - it adds something special to the conversation. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| From what I learned in college, libertarians are conservative on economic issues and liberal on social issues. | |
| Nudists in the Performing Arts |
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| This is your chance to shamelessly self-promote a project you may be working on right now and want people to know about. So, it's time for Shameless Self-Promotion! | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Here's my take on the subject: I mentioned to a naturist friend that it's difficult, if not impossible, for a naturist to support conservative causes, especially since it's conservatives (specifically, social conservatives) who have tried to outlaw naturist activities. Certain GOP lawmakers in Kansas as well as a certain pedophile former Congressman immediately come to mind. Add to that the fact that naturism has parallels with environmentalism (a traditionally progressive viewpoint). So, that said, it would not surprise me in the slightest that most nudists would be politically social progressive. | |
| you're friends aren't nudists?! |
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| I think it's safe to say that none or maybe a select few of my non-nudist friends and family know of my nudism. That's okay, and I prefer to keep it that way for now. :) | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| Interestingly, gas prices fall into two broader categories: economy (the further hosing of the middle- and working-class) and environment/global warming/energy policy (the need to develop alternative energy sources and how the big oil companies prevent us from doing so). | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| As with every election cycle, different issues will take center stage. This year, such issues include the economy, Iraq, global warming/energy policy, and health care. For me, the economy is always issue number one. We cannot hope to recover economically so long as tax cuts keep going to the upper 1% of the population, usually at the expense of the lower 99%. Iraq is also a key issue. We had no business whatsoever invading that country in the first place. Those soldiers, sailors, Marines, and airmen need to come home as soon as possible. So, I open the floor to you. What issue will bring you to the voting booth in November? | |
| Nudists in the Performing Arts |
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| So, what kind of performance art are you into? I'm primarily a filmmaker and screenwriter, but can also act (not well) and write music. My only naturist-related work to date was for the YouTube "Naked Vlog Campaign." | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Cool. Thanks for sharing. :) | |
| Nudists in the Performing Arts |
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| Welcome, friends, to the Nudists in the Performing Arts group. This is a place for nudists and naturists who participate in one of the performing arts - film/television, stage, music, dance, and the like. Nudity and art usually go together. For some reason, it's not necessarily true (or, more correctly, appreciated and/or allowed) of the performing arts. One thing I hope to accomplish with this group is to encourage discussion on how we can bring nudity and performance art together. Further, I hope that this becomes a forum for nudist performers - actors, dancers, musicians, etc - to network and share experiences. Hopefully, the next great nudist-themed play or movie will come from this group. So, sit back, get naked, relax, and enjoy. :) | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I support Obama as well. I even tried to become one of his delegates from Kansas - it's a testament of the inspiration this man inspires as over 70 people were running for 5 delegate spots in our local congressional district convention. Let me paraphrase Obama here: "We cannot allow John McCain to serve George Bush's third term." I'm sure that phrase will apply to all future Republicans, but for now the focus is on McCain as he's the GOP nominee. | |
| Progressive Nudists |
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| I've started this group as a place for nudists and naturists with progressive or liberal political leanings to come and talk about politics, especially politics and its effects on nudism. So, let's talk naked politics! | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| There's a really good book on spiritual naturism that I recommend to everyone. It's entitled "Naked in the Woods: A Guide to Spiritual Nudity." The content is mostly based on Neopagan and New Age spiritual beliefs, and is a must-read for any spiritual nudist. You can download the book for free or order the paperback at: http://www.lulu.com/content/852933 | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I've got to admit that even I was stumped by this one. :) First off, what's the whole "primal" thing about? Secondly, why do only males apply? | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I've got a book called "Return of the Angels" which goes into great detail about the nature of angels. It puts forth one theory about the biblical story that Stephen mentioned: that lesser angels called Gregori (or Watchers) assumed human form to seduce the Daughters of Man. Great book if you're interested in the metaphysical nature of angels. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Strictly speaking, you're right that angels - as beings of spirit - are genderless. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I'm of the opinion that angels - both male and female - should be depicted naked. However, depicting them in very loose robes is acceptable. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I know that spiritual naturist groups are rare. There is, however, a Spiritual Naturist SIG - their website is: http://www.4dirs.com/fdulc/sigsub.html If all else fails, you can start your own (non-Internet-based) spiritual naturist group. | |
| Midwest Nudists |
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| Greetings from KC! | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Thanks for sharing. | |
| The Internet and Naturism |
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| Interesting question. I wish I had a good answer. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Here's a question for everybody to answer: what is/are your favorite spiritual practice/s? | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| What I think is great about spirituality is that it is so diverse, that there really isn't one right answer to the question "What do we need spiritually?" I also think that you can have spirituality without religion, but you cannot have religion without spirituality. All of us have a different background spiritually, and - like our naked bodies - we should not be ashamed of them. For example: my spirituality has roots in Roman Catholicism, Mormonism, Taoism, some Neo-Paganism, and nudist philosophy. I now invite you to share your spiritual backgrounds, if you wish to do so. | |
| Sports Talk |
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| I always like draft talk. It looks like Jake Long will be the #1 overall pick by Miami. My beloved Rams pick second, and I would like for them to pick Chris Long (Howie's kid). I'm interested in hearing everyone else's thoughts on the draft. Who should your teams pick? | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| I do believe that the Bible says that Adam and Eve were "naked and not ashamed." The reason they covered themselves was they were ashamed, not of their nakedness, but of disobeying God by eating from the Tree of Truth and Knowledge. God said that naked was good. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Amen, brother. | |
| Spiritual Nudists |
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| Welcome all to this new group for spiritual nudists. Let's start the group off by talking about nudity and how it can be a spiritual thing. I believe that nudity itself can be a spiritual practice. I'm much closer to the Divine (or God/dess, if you will) when I'm naked, as nothing stands between me and the Divine. This is the way that I was made, and I want to celebrate that. | |
| Sports Talk |
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| I agree with your assessment that Mike Brown is an idiot, and that there are too many damn criminals on the team. However, I don't think they'll trade Johnson simply because he's an important part of that offense. | |
| Sports Talk |
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| I disagree with you on the AFC North. In my opinion that's a wide-open division that any of the four teams can win. | |
| Sports Talk |
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| I could see Tampa Bay winning the rather weak NFC South because their only real competition will be New Orleans. That said, I'll give you the division winners right now: NFC North: Green Bay NFC South: New Orleans NFC East: Philadelphia or NY Giants NFC West: Arizona AFC North: Cincinnati AFC South: Indianapolis (until further notice) AFC East: New England (until further notice) AFC West: Denver | |
| Sports Talk |
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| Tampa Bay Rays fans (it's weird to not say "Devil Rays," isn't it?), worry not - you're STILL better than the KC Royals. | |
| New to Nudism |
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| I was nervous at first, but that quickly evaporated and was replaced with the incredibly natural feeling of freedom. I became hooked for life. | |
| Sports Talk |
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| It's an interesting trade. Clearly Phoenix got the better end of the deal - even though Shaq is older and more injury prone, there's really nothing to suggest that Miami benefited from the trade at all. Just my opinion. | |
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